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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Unit791 on February 10, 2009, 04:29:20 PM
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I think this would be a great new addidtion, i personally think it looks quite interesting, and apparently it had a better kill/death ratio than the Zeke, Frank, George.
MODEL J2M3
CREW 1
ENGINE 1 x Mitsubishi "Kasei-23a", 1350kW
WEIGHTS
Take-off weight 3435 kg 7573 lb
Empty weight 2460 kg 5423 lb
DIMENSIONS
Wingspan 10.8 m 35 ft 5 in
Length 9.95 m 32 ft 8 in
Height 3.95 m 12 ft 12 in
Wing area 20.05 m2 215.82 sq ft
PERFORMANCE
Max. speed 580 km/h 360 mph
Ceiling 11700 m 38400 ft
Range 1900 km 1181 miles
ARMAMENT 4 x 20mm cannons, 120kg of bombs
(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/japan/mitsubishi_j2m.jpg)
For more info on it, http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/mitsubishi_j2m.php
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I wouldn't mind seeing her added, but she'd have a VERY limited utility in the mains.
Anyway, the early-war Japanese plane set is in DESPERATE need of additions. We only have one EW IJN/IJAAF fighter, (Zero) which is inappropriate for a large number of early-war scenarios (Zeros did NOT see action against the AVG in China). We don't have an appropriate EW level-bomber, either.
The Ki-43, Ki-45, A5M and Ki-27 are much more badly needed, as are the G3M, G4M and Ki-21.
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I agree with you on all of them, except for KI-27 , its like an RV-8 with MG's
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Don't need another cannon bird for a while. I agree with Saxman, need more EW japanese planes
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I agree with you on all of them, except for KI-27 , its like an RV-8 with MG's
The A5M is very similar to the Ki-27 in performance as well.
I hope someday to see a full Japanese planeset like Saxman has posted.
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Wasn't the J2M2 a failure? Or was that the J2M3? One had a huge problem with stalls right?
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hmmm i dont recall reading that in the J2Ms description
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From what I've been able to find the Jack had a much better "survival" (hard to call neg numbers kill to death) % then any other fighter averaging a 1/3 ratio vs the F4U and 3.5/1 vs the F6F (these from another forum so accuracy is not certain)....
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I'd love to see the J2M added. At this point, any Japanese aircraft is a good addition.
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yes, I think the japanese planeset needs a big boost
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We need something like that so we don't always have to take the A6M2 in the EW FSO's.
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We need something like that so we don't always have to take the A6M2 in the EW FSO's.
J2M was a later bird and doesn't belong in EW to begin with. That's why the A5M, Ki-27, Ki-45 and Ki-47 are needed.
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I know there are others needed first but another Japanese plane missing from
from the set that should be added is the A6M3 IMO.
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Ki-43 should be the next Japanese fighter. I know it won't have much main arena use, but it's a big one for early war scenarios.
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Oscar will be a deadly little sucker in the MA. Exceptionally quick acceleration from 150 to 250 and uber low speed handling will make it a spit/hurricane/nikki killer of the 1st order. I'd assume the late war 20mm option wont be modeled but if it is then it will be a well used plane for base defense.
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The performance would be pretty decent in the EW, but with only a pair of 12.7mm she'll be an assist queen. She'll be totally outmatched in the Mid and Late War arenas, unless as you said we get some later models.
However she is CRITICALLY important for historical setups: FSO, Snapshots, scenarios, etc.
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>> J2M Raiden
+1 :aok
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The performance would be pretty decent in the EW, but with only a pair of 12.7mm she'll be an assist queen. She'll be totally outmatched in the Mid and Late War arenas, unless as you said we get some later models.
However she is CRITICALLY important for historical setups: FSO, Snapshots, scenarios, etc.
Isn't the 12.7mm in the KI-43-IC and later?
If I remember right the KI-43-I only sports a pair of 7.7mm, the KI-43-IB had a 7.7mm and a 12.7 mm.
Yes these dogs dance better than they bite, but they dance well enough to stay glued to your tail.
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I found the following link on KI-43 armament if interested.
http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/rdunn/nakajima_ki43arm.htm
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yes, I think the japanese planeset needs a big boost
And Russian. But yes, I'd say both are high priority.
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I support it's addition to the inventory, but will rely on HTC to decide it's priority.
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The performance would be pretty decent in the EW, but with only a pair of 12.7mm she'll be an assist queen. She'll be totally outmatched in the Mid and Late War arenas, unless as you said we get some later models.
However she is CRITICALLY important for historical setups: FSO, Snapshots, scenarios, etc.
Actually I can take out anything I can saddle up on in about 50-60 rds in the SBD. Given the tremendous acceleration the oscar has I think it will be pretty deadly in a furball.
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I'm all for fleshig out the B&Z department of the japanese planeset.
So thumbs up for the J2M and hopefully a Ki-44 too.
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I know there are others needed first but another Japanese plane missing from
from the set that should be added is the A6M3 IMO.
Depends what model. The Model 32 had a better roll rate and dive speed than the earlier models due to its smaller size at the expense of decreased maneuverability and range than earlier models. It also had a rather brief production run with less than 350 made.
The Model 22 however corrected a lot of the deficenies found in the Model 32 and added some minor improvements like new hard points for drop tanks under each wing. Its production run was slightly larger than the Model 32 with over 500 made. There was even one version (for evalutaion and testing only, never saw operational service) that had a 30mm cannon and was designated the A6M3b (Model 22b).
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One thing's for certain, the Japanese Early and Mid War sets are in desperate need of attention (the large numbers of A6M5s we had in the recent Bougainville FSO would have been much better represented by A6M3 Model 22s, with a scant handful of A6M5s).
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Depends what model. The Model 32 had a better roll rate and dive speed than the earlier models due to its smaller size at the expense of decreased maneuverability and range than earlier models. It also had a rather brief production run with less than 350 made.
The Model 22 however corrected a lot of the deficenies found in the Model 32 and added some minor improvements like new hard points for drop tanks under each wing. Its production run was slightly larger than the Model 32 with over 500 made. There was even one version (for evalutaion and testing only, never saw operational service) that had a 30mm cannon and was designated the A6M3b (Model 22b).
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Thanks for the info Ack Ack :aok
Boozeman good point we've shot all around and you're the first to mention the KI-44 Tojo.
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4 20's? hello new ho plane :D
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4 20's? hello new ho plane :D
Not really for the J2M3.
J2M3 was armed with two 20mm Type 99 Model 2s (as on the N1K2-J and A6M5) and two 20mm Type 99 Model 1s (as on the A6M2).
The less common J2M3a was armed with four 20mm Type 99 Model 2s (as on the N1K2-J and A6M5).
It is also a smaller aircraft so its ammo loads are probably modest.
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I like the Raiden, Kinda like a Japanese Jug...
Saburo Sakai, said it had armor, and selfsealing tanks...
But, "Flying it, was like driving a truck.."
Keep that in mind..
RC
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ammo loadout is 200 rds/gun so 800 total