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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Anaxogoras on February 13, 2009, 01:50:09 AM
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I logged into Blue at midnight EST (orange was maxed). The knights were bombing/vulching A94 (full sector of darbar), I up at another field to intercept the attackers. Quickly the knights dissipate, and I follow what's left to A97 (see pic below), but quickly find myself alone.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3275475471_51553e2597_o.png)
However, we notice that the knights have moved to V90 (notice the darbar in sector 8,6). Out of sheer boredom and a desire not to miss out on the action, I ditch my plane and up from A89 to meet the attackers. I make it over the mountain (about 16k ft) with some other rooks as a single knight P-51 is running back to knight territory. Finally, we arrive A35 to find 2-3 low bandits circling in their field ack.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/3275475521_0117829264_o.png)
2 are shot down, and the other lands and exits his plane. Despite 5-6 rooks patrolling around in full view of knight radar, no one comes to meet us. Again, out of sheer boredom, I bail out and exit the arena.
What gives? Notice that in both of these pics, there is no good sustained fight to be found for anyone flying Rook. Even the perpetual hotspot, A1, is empty. So, like I said, where's the fight?
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Currently, the best fights (the most aggressive ones) are on channel 200 and on the forums. Looking at these forums the last few days, I'm convinced a verbal spar would be a lot more entertaining than flying in AH.
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Bottom. Off the map in your pic. A55 and around there. I haven't seen a Rook v Bish fight in 3 days. That's half your problem right there. Half the opposition isn't there and the other half doesn't want to fight.
wrongway
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Currently, the best fights (the most aggressive ones) are on channel 200 and on the forums. Looking at these forums the last few days, I'm convinced a verbal spar would be a lot more entertaining than flying in AH.
You should have been on last night. You'd be posting an "I quit" thread instead of the above.
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Currently, the best fights (the most aggressive ones) are on channel 200 and on the forums. Looking at these forums the last few days, I'm convinced a verbal spar would be a lot more entertaining than flying in AH.
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Tried both late war arenas last night. I think I lasted an hour or so.
Frodo
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:aok
Tried both late war arenas last night. I think I lasted an hour or so.
Frodo
Thank god its friday, even in the Service of the Emperor.
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the wheel has come full circle. took 5 years, but it's here.
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The way the community is now I think you would have better luck finding Jimmy Hoffa or Bigfoot.
It's the main reason I don't play anymore.
Good luck on your quest. :aok
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Orange had big darbars at a8 to a9. I wouldn't call it a fight though because the 2 full darbars of rooks consisted almost soley of high and fast planes.I managed a few kills though. :)
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I'm also getting disgusted at the fact that no one wants to fight. I spent about an hour online last night, got two kills, one assist, chased some runners and watched Nits circle field ack while they had Bish outnumbered at least 2:1.
I think I'm going to announce on 200 where I'm upping, where I'm going and ask people who are willing to fight to meet me and see if that works.
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Baldeagl, if we both share a similar sentiment, I'm curious to know why you're so opposed to tweaking base capture to squeeze people into a smaller combat zone.
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I think maybe I found a better game for 90% of the community.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/bucky626/c7d0bc7a.jpg?t=1234542220)
Of course you actually have to put a little THOUGHT into this one also so I'll keep looking. :aok
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face it, the BBS group wanting fights is only 2% of the actual MA population. I was landing the other night after I got tired of 190's and 51's running and got vulched (wasn't surprised when i saw the name). We had at least 10 other AC in the air but that would have required some actual amount of skill a larger degree of difficulty. Some tools just want the easiest kill possible, live with it deal with it and just laugh.
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Here's the deal: It doesn't bother me that much if the enemy...
...hugs ack.
...tries to cherry pick me.
...tries for head-on shots.
...runs away.
...At least I'm flying with the enemy in view. Last night I couldn't even achieve that modest goal.
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:aok
Tried both late war arenas last night. I think I lasted an hour or so.
Frodo
I was going to say the same thing. I logged on. Looked around and no fight even in orange. So I logged off. No missions either. Nothing happening.
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face it, the BBS group wanting fights is only 2% of the actual MA population. I was landing the other night after I got tired of 190's and 51's running and got vulched (wasn't surprised when i saw the name). We had at least 10 other AC in the air but that would have required some actual amount of skill a larger degree of difficulty. Some tools just want the easiest kill possible, live with it deal with it and just laugh.
This is one on the truest statements i've heard in a long, long time.
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I've had a hard time with it to, so me and 3 others went DA.
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I was on two times Thursday/Friday 12/13 Feb. Thurs, I got into Orange had plenty of places to fight. In the NE and SW of Knight land. I kept getting disco'd from Orange, on Thursday. Tried Blue early Friday still had good fights going. And I didn't get disco'd once.
Its all a matter of when you pop on! How ever all three Countries do the High fast Runners, Cherry Pickin, etc. I have also noticed that some people wont fly a plane to save their life. All you see them in is a Tank. First thing they ask when they come on is "Where are the Tank Fights!". So don't feel bad "A", some days/weeks are like this.
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Its all a matter of when you pop on! How ever all three Countries do the High fast Runners, Cherry Pickin, etc.
I would have been overjoyed to have people trying to cherry pick me last night. That would mean I was fighting someone. ;)
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I sympathize with your irritation. Usually if I can not find a fight, I will try to pick one. Bomb their field, roll some GV's into their base, circle their field making crude gestures, etc. Sometimes it works sometimes it does not. Just keep poking that wasp's nest, eventually they will come out angry!
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I'm also getting disgusted at the fact that no one wants to fight. I spent about an hour online last night, got two kills, one assist, chased some runners and watched Nits circle field ack while they had Bish outnumbered at least 2:1.
I think I'm going to announce on 200 where I'm upping, where I'm going and ask people who are willing to fight to meet me and see if that works.
Says the guy who upps bomber 18 or 20 times a tour, and flys so high in toolshedLand he neither kills or gets killed.
Ive never once had a problm finding fights in this game. Maybe quality fights arent always there but I always found fights.
Its the entire score thing yaknow Eagl? To many fly around at 20,000' like they got a load in their pants and wont come down unless they are 100% assured they can escape and land their precious kills.
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I always find a fight, its mostly the other side hourding but hey its Target rich :aok
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Says the guy who upps bomber 18 or 20 times a tour, and flys so high in toolshedLand he neither kills or gets killed.
Ive never once had a problm finding fights in this game. Maybe quality fights arent always there but I always found fights.
Its the entire score thing yaknow Eagl? To many fly around at 20,000' like they got a load in their pants and wont come down unless they are 100% assured they can escape and land their precious kills.
I rarely if ever back down from a fight in a fighter and I've never been one to fly around in attack mode "saving" my fighter score. What does bombing have to do with any of that? I fly bombers when I'm bored and 16K isn't exactly never never land. It's not my fault most people can't catch an AR234 so shut it dweeboi until you know what your talking about.
Anax, I'm opposed to the line capture the way is was implemented. Imagine a full arena with 400 people grouped with 133 each in 3 fights (66/side). Even a good furball isn't that big. Now add the fact that every GV, buff, fighter and attack plane is there trying to shut down one base while the rest of the map is empty except for the few milkers alone nowhere near where the fight is or where they are doing their country any service. Add to this that, if you're not in one of those main fights, there is no one to fight, thereby limiting your ability to play many aspects of the game based on exactly where that fight is. No thank you. Maybe if it was more like what Saxman advocated, a continuous web beginning on the front lines and extending to all surrounding bases it wouldn't be as bad but that was never tried even though it was suggested at the time.
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maybe the AI one day will give us that "continuos web" of a fight, only that ever happens.
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The only fights I've found lately are diving into 4+vs1's or fighting the same 4 people/squadies over and over again in the DA. Even the 4vs1's aren't a sure thing. I have to basically lay myself out on the table with no advantages for someone to attack me. And then listen to them brag on 200 after they've "owned" me.
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I never liked the line capture. I think it promoted the horde more than diffused it, it also took away any kind of tactical ingenuity. You always knew which base they were trying to take, and the only way to take it was to come in with a bigger organized force than what was defending it.
Last night I was on in BLUE from about 730 eastern to about 930. Knights had gotten a horde together to take back the bases on the south shore 55, 74, 76 and a couple others. For the most part it was a pick fest for the knights while their GV rolled the bases, number inbalance was crasy. I got accused of loosing my "nads" and running away too much. Every time I engaged one guy 3-4 others would try to pick..... ya you could say I was being a bit cautious.
Mean while in the north, the Rooks also have A1 and neither the bishops or the knights are interested in taking it back. The bish are busy how ever trying to take the last two bases in tank town so that they can own the whole thing :rolleyes: One big CV battle did pop up near the port north of 199, but once the Bish CV was sunk, that 15-20 mile flight from 199 was just too long I guess and the fight disappeared.
Had the Knight horde split its forces and attacked A1 as well as the bases in the south, there would have been more fights on a couple fronts, but horde tactics are always better than skilled fighting. :confused: Things won't really get better until the community starts turning things around, or someone comes in with a heavy handed brand new set of rules to manage game play.
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The only fights I've found lately are diving into 4+vs1's or fighting the same 4 people/squadies over and over again in the DA. Even the 4vs1's aren't a sure thing. I have to basically lay myself out on the table with no advantages for someone to attack me. And then listen to them brag on 200 after they've "owned" me.
My wingman and I had hours of great fights with you and your crew last night scotch.
Hlbly, Sads, grizz and yourself. <S>
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Yeah, I was there for about 3 fights then switched to your side to try and balance numbers. But I wasn't flying with anyone.
:salute
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hmmmm...
People always spouting off about real-war tactics and flying like your life really depends on it...seems like many people in the arenas have decided to adopt that strategy. :confused:
It's not unique to LW either...MW and EW seem to be quieter than normal too. :furious
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I'm also getting disgusted at the fact that no one wants to fight. I spent about an hour online last night, got two kills, one assist, chased some runners and watched Nits circle field ack while they had Bish outnumbered at least 2:1.
I think I'm going to announce on 200 where I'm upping, where I'm going and ask people who are willing to fight to meet me and see if that works.
I'll pm you if your on, See if you fancy a few fights somewhere, getting fed up with the runners and ack huggers to be honest. See if we can rustle up a few like minded souls and have some fun.
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It's a culture problem, and the ones leading it are people we know all to well. Vets... as Shane would say, meh...
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Yeah, I was there for about 3 fights then switched to your side to try and balance numbers. But I wasn't flying with anyone.
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Yeah, I had you and had to break off due to the horde around you.
I didn't know you were flying on our side alone, otherwise, I'd have asked ya to join us. (Flying alone isn't the solution)
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hmmmm...
People always spouting off about real-war tactics and flying like your life really depends on it...seems like many people in the arenas have decided to adopt that strategy. :confused:
No. Trying to kill without being killed has little to do with any arena woes, since it is implicit that one IS actually trying to kill.
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Its the planes you are flying.
I never have trouble attracting a fight ever since
I started flying a P-40E. Most players think
they are easy meat. That attracts them.
If you are in a uber plane at 20K above your
opponent, of course he'll elect to disengage!
Take my advice, fly an A6M, P-40, Hurricane
or P-39. You'll get into a fight. Guaranteed.
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People run from my 109G-6 routinely.
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Take my advice, fly an A6M, P-40, Hurricane
or P-39. You'll get into a fight. Guaranteed.
1 of 4. A6M and hurri you'll probably just get slash and run to death. P40 maybe, but it's still slow and more of the same once they realize you know what you're doing and are on their tail. P39 you will get fights.
Flying any traditional "B&zer" and turning it is the way to go. You need a moderately fast plane so you can still kill them when they try to disengage and run. 152, Temps, Typhs, P51d, P51B, Fw190s, f4u4s&f4ucs (everyone wants to kill perk planes), mossy, p38, a20, P47's. You will get fights in these planes.
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Ink has it right. Fly against the horde. Last night rooks were were hording A9.
It was a strange scenario. I played there for a couple of hours, and saw just one, that I remember, of each of the following: ki84, nik, spit, p38, F4U. It was almost all 51's and D9's. You had to be a little patient, but you could catch one in a mistake now and then. I bagged about 20 hordelings without losing a ship. Mmmm hordelings.
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problem is there is not a few main strategy points worth taking..So everyone is scattered all over hell and no real point of being any place :rofl
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Ink has it right. Fly against the horde. Last night rooks were were hording A9.
It was a strange scenario. I played there for a couple of hours, and saw just one, that I remember, of each of the following: ki84, nik, spit, p38, F4U. It was almost all 51's and D9's. You had to be a little patient, but you could catch one in a mistake now and then. I bagged about 20 hordelings without losing a ship. Mmmm hordelings.
I guess ur right... no strategy in the MA what so ever should just be one massive furball :rofl Same old crap in aces high :aok
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I guess ur right... no strategy in the MA what so ever should just be one massive furball
You could always play chess.
I prefer shooting planes down in AHII. You can take bases and toolshed offline :aok
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I've found that real real late at night and you can find some descent fights. Banshee5, any of the muppets, Kermie, gixer and a few others will always offer up some adrenaline pumpin auger inducing mayhem...but again you gotta wait till like 3am eastern plus.
also the use of 200 to set up fights, impromtu 1v1s, impromtu DA sessions, and also staying out of each others way ( and fights) is a great thing, more people should give it a shot. there is a community of players that are dying for this shi@ ( honorable air combat? ) we just gotta make it happen.
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You could always play chess.
I prefer shooting planes down in AHII. You can take bases and toolshed offline :aok
I think he's one of the ones prefers flying over Furball Lake in a LW ride at 20k picking those fighting.
ack-ack
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I've been away from AH for a week now. I was gonna log back on tonight, but with all this negative talk I don't think I want to.
Baaaah....no matter if I can find a fight I can always find something to do online. Flying with friends beats the hell out of flying alone or being board :rock
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"Where's the fight?"...this is a joke right? Haven't you heard? The game is about winning the war...not fighting! :rolleyes:
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"Where's the fight?"...this is a joke right? Haven't you heard? The game is about winning the war...not fighting! :rolleyes:
I heard that the prize for winning the war is your desktop.
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I logged into Blue at midnight EST (orange was maxed). The knights were bombing/vulching A94 (full sector of darbar), I up at another field to intercept the attackers. Quickly the knights dissipate, and I fo :aokllow what's left to A97 (see pic below), but quickly find myself alone.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3275475471_51553e2597_o.png)
However, we notice that the knights have moved to V90 (notice the darbar in sector 8,6). Out of sheer boredom and a desire not to miss out on the action, I ditch my plane and up from A89 to meet the attackers. I make it over the mountain (about 16k ft) with some other rooks as a single knight P-51 is running back to knight territory. Finally, we arrive A35 to find 2-3 low bandits circling in their field ack.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/3275475521_0117829264_o.png)
2 are shot down, and the other lands and exits his plane. Despite 5-6 rooks patrolling around in full view of knight radar, no one comes to meet us. Again, out of sheer boredom, I bail out and exit the arena.
What gives? Notice that in both of these pics, there is no good sustained fight to be found for anyone flying Rook. Even the perpetual hotspot, A1, is empty. So, like I said, where's the fight?
The fight was in Orange, well if you could call it that. Bring back the MA. :aok
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I heard that the prize for winning the war is your desktop.
Really? I heard the prize is having chicks swoon all over you.
ack-ack
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I heard that the prize for winning the war is your desktop.
:lol
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The fight was in Orange, well if you could call it that. Bring back the MA. :aok
No thanks
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wrongway
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^What he said!^