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Title: Flyboys
Post by: JunkyII on March 09, 2009, 04:38:32 AM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: sluggish on March 09, 2009, 08:20:24 AM
hated it

Somebody went crazy stupid with the CGI.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: CAP1 on March 09, 2009, 10:01:48 AM
hated it

Somebody went crazy stupid with the CGI.

+1
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Cthulhu on March 09, 2009, 10:13:31 AM
hated it

Somebody went crazy stupid with the CGI.
+2

Alhough I may have learned some French.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: avionix on March 09, 2009, 10:43:21 AM
hated it

Somebody went crazy stupid with the CGI.
+3

Had to throw that crappy love story in with a war movie.  How dare they. :furious
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: BlueJ1 on March 09, 2009, 10:48:56 AM
+3

Had to throw that crappy love story in with a war movie.  How dare they. :furious

They didnt learn from Pearl Harbor.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Cthulhu on March 09, 2009, 11:05:00 AM
+3

Had to throw that crappy love story in with a war movie.  How dare they. :furious
There is a right way to do it.

"Dark Blue World"

They didnt learn from Pearl Harbor.
Btw, "Pearl Harbor" is just a lame love story with some airplanes flying over (eventually  :rolleyes:). Not really a war movie.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Kazaa on March 09, 2009, 11:20:16 AM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid

-10 That movie was almost as bad as cat woman.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: simshell on March 09, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
tora tora tora was on today

there is a war movie
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: avionix on March 09, 2009, 12:52:52 PM
tora tora tora was on today

there is a war movie

There we go.  Watched Patton this weekend.  Has to be one of my favs.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 09, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
hated it

Somebody went crazy stupid with the CGI.

I enjoyed the movie for entertainment value.
But am in full agreement about the CGI.
Completely overboard to the point its obviously fake.

Blue Max is still the best (colorized) WWI flight movie I've ever seen
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: avionix on March 09, 2009, 02:22:26 PM
Blue Max is still the best (colorized) WWI flight movie I've ever seen

Great film.  Reminds me that I need to go find a copy.  Ursula Andress was pretty hawt in that one.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: SKJohn on March 09, 2009, 02:23:28 PM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid

great - thanks for giving away the plot - now I don't have to go see it  :(
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Xargos on March 09, 2009, 02:28:07 PM


Blue Max is still the best (colorized) WWI flight movie I've ever seen

 :aok
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Cthulhu on March 09, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
I enjoyed the movie for entertainment value.
But am in full agreement about the CGI.
Completely overboard to the point its obviously fake.

Blue Max is still the best (colorized) WWI flight movie I've ever seen
Blue Max is a great movie! :aok  Haven't seen it on the tube in years though. Was done back when George Peppard was building up his acting credentials. (The same creds he flushed down the toilet with "A Team" :( )
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: weazely on March 09, 2009, 03:12:43 PM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid


Not a good move.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Enker on March 09, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
I liked it, though James Franco's expressions consisted of only a emotionless facade and a wide farmboy grin. Looking for a good WWI flight sim, after being inspired by the movie led me to AH.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Leslie on March 09, 2009, 08:07:00 PM
Not knowing much about the planes of that time, I have a question.  Were the planes depicted accurately?  Having watched other movies dealing with the subject, it seemed only the aces and top pilots flew the Fokker Dr.1.  Was this movie accurate with the entire squadron flying the triplanes?


Les


Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 09, 2009, 09:36:21 PM
I cannot understand you people, a love story?

Show me a single soldier who doesnt have a love story, a single pilot who isnt figthing to RETURN back to the people they love.



EVERY DAMN WAR FILM IS A LOVE STORY. If not for the storyline itself, the people fighting In it have wifes, girl friends mother and fathers, each and every one of them.


When it comes to the cgi, none of you said how GREAT it looked, do you think they could have pulled it off with a small hand full of after ww1 war made ww1 fighters?


Wouldnt happen.


So all things considered, the move was great.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Saxman on March 09, 2009, 09:38:29 PM
I wouldn't say great, but not total schlock.

Seriously, who DIDN'T think Franco lag-rolling up beside the main bad guy German and blowing him away with his service gun wasn't totally bad-ass?
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 09, 2009, 09:39:46 PM
I wouldn't say great, but not total schlock.

Seriously, who DIDN'T think Franco lag-rolling up beside the main bad guy German and blowing him away with his service gun wasn't totally bad-ass?


I stood up and cheered, heck yeah one bad arse moment. :P

I Really wish there was a decent ww1 flight sim.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Rich46yo on March 09, 2009, 09:48:33 PM
I thought there were a couple of good CGI shots, especially when considering CGI for historical airplane scenes is difficult. I liked the bombing run on the ammo factory at the end of the movie just cause its so cool to see the birth of strategic bombing. I also liked the scenes with the zeppelins.

But all in all a pretty good tale. I wish there were more WW-l flight movies.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Tango on March 09, 2009, 09:52:09 PM
How many Red Barons did they shoot down in that movie? Didn't see a single Albatros. Just shows how Hollywood goes for the flash and not content in making a War movie like that.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: JunkyII on March 09, 2009, 11:18:26 PM
I wouldn't say great, but not total schlock.

Seriously, who DIDN'T think Franco lag-rolling up beside the main bad guy German and blowing him away with his service gun wasn't totally bad-ass?
That was awesome, one thing I didnt like was all the HO , WTF dont they know about a cold merge :furious
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Saxman on March 09, 2009, 11:27:11 PM

I stood up and cheered, heck yeah one bad arse moment. :P


IIRC that was based on a historical incident, too. It might have been Frank Luke.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: CAP1 on March 09, 2009, 11:55:21 PM
I cannot understand you people, a love story?

Show me a single soldier who doesnt have a love story, a single pilot who isnt figthing to RETURN back to the people they love.



EVERY DAMN WAR FILM IS A LOVE STORY. If not for the storyline itself, the people fighting In it have wifes, girl friends mother and fathers, each and every one of them.


When it comes to the cgi, none of you said how GREAT it looked, do you think they could have pulled it off with a small hand full of after ww1 war made ww1 fighters?


Wouldnt happen.


So all things considered, the move was great.

i'd rsather watch blue max again.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: mechanic on March 10, 2009, 12:32:32 AM
Nothing beat's Kelly's Heroes, not even Band of Brothers.

I thought flyboys was pretty cool to watch once.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 10, 2009, 01:08:43 AM
Great film.  Reminds me that I need to go find a copy.  Ursula Andress was pretty hawt in that one.

And I bet I can tell you the scene of hers you remember the most.
The one where she is standing there with a towel over her shoulders just covering her tits
 :D

Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 10, 2009, 01:11:09 AM
Blue Max is a great movie! :aok  Haven't seen it on the tube in years though. Was done back when George Peppard was building up his acting credentials. (The same creds he flushed down the toilet with "A Team" :( )

Only way to respond to that is with a quote from the movie.


"Confirmed!"
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 10, 2009, 01:13:49 AM
How many Red Barons did they shoot down in that movie?


That was one of the things that irked me about the movie
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 10, 2009, 01:14:44 AM
i'd rsather watch blue max again.

But even the Blue Max had a love triangle in it
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: CAP1 on March 10, 2009, 07:40:17 AM
But even the Blue Max had a love triangle in it

ya, it did, but at least the people in that movie could actually act, AANNDDD they used REAL airplanes in it. none of this cgi poop. cgi is cool sometimes, when it's used right, but overuse it, and it ruins the movie.

 hell, black sheep squadron was a thousand times better than flyboys.  :aok
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: avionix on March 10, 2009, 07:46:14 AM
Read in one of my aviation mags where they actually built replicas of WWI aircraft to use in Flyboys.  Ok, then why all the CGI?  And did you see the shot of the large furball where the aircraft loses his left wing and spins to the right?
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: indy007 on March 10, 2009, 10:10:16 AM
They used real airplanes for many of the scenes, but mostly replicas. iirc, I think somebody, maybe Skuzzy mentioned on the forum years ago where the flight model code actually came from.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Rich46yo on March 10, 2009, 11:08:47 AM
Well...anyhoo...a good sight to puruse when your in WW-l mode. http://www.theaerodrome.com/ Enjoy.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Enker on March 10, 2009, 08:23:42 PM
Not knowing much about the planes of that time, I have a question.  Were the planes depicted accurately?  Having watched other movies dealing with the subject, it seemed only the aces and top pilots flew the Fokker Dr.1.  Was this movie accurate with the entire squadron flying the triplanes?


Les



They said in the interviews that they made all the Germans in red, tri-wings, to help keep the viewers aligned as to which were the "good guys" and the "bad guys."
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: -tronski- on March 11, 2009, 06:50:08 AM
Except the reeeeaaaallllyy bad Hun...he was in green

I think Hugh Laurie's Lt George from Blackadder Goes Forth was far more realistic than anything in that craptastic film: "Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: avionix on March 11, 2009, 08:05:38 AM
Except the reeeeaaaallllyy bad Hun...he was in green

I think Hugh Laurie's Lt George from Blackadder Goes Forth was far more realistic than anything in that craptastic film: "Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

 Tronsky

Just did some looking up in Blackadder.  Will have to find some episodes online as it looks funny as heck.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: 68Wooley on March 11, 2009, 02:04:43 PM
Except the reeeeaaaallllyy bad Hun...he was in green

I think Hugh Laurie's Lt George from Blackadder Goes Forth was far more realistic than anything in that craptastic film: "Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

 Tronsky

Gonna risk the wrath of Skuzzy here, but Rik Mayal's Captain Flashheart statement regarding his aircraft in Blackadder Goes Forth was comedy genius:

"Treat your aircraft like you treat your woman"
"What do you mean Sir?"
"I mean get inside her twice a day and take her to heaven and back - WOOF!!!".

Funnily enough, 20 minutes is about my average lifespan in AH2.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: xNOVAx on March 11, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid

Worst air combat movie..... ever made..
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Enker on March 11, 2009, 04:08:54 PM
Except the reeeeaaaallllyy bad Hun...he was in green

I think Hugh Laurie's Lt George from Blackadder Goes Forth was far more realistic than anything in that craptastic film: "Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

 Tronsky
Huh, I thought it was just black...guess this means I need to watch the movie again.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Yeager on March 11, 2009, 08:11:33 PM
They didnt learn from Pearl Harbor.
Are you kidding?  Pearl Harbor (the movie) sucked so pathetically bad is begs description.  In comparison Flyboys was a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Barnes828 on March 11, 2009, 08:17:12 PM
I don't think there will ever be a truly good aircombat movie again, perhaps a more modern or futuristic one but never WWI or WW2 again.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: stodd on March 11, 2009, 08:22:18 PM
IIRC that was based on a historical incident, too. It might have been Frank Luke.
Wow really? Id like to hear more about this could you possibly put up a link or something. :pray
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Spikes on March 11, 2009, 08:29:48 PM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid
Good book as well.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Vudak on March 11, 2009, 10:26:22 PM
Flyboys was pretty bad, but it wasn't the worst airplane movie ever made.  That distinction goes to "Memphis Belle" with Billy Zane.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: JunkyII on March 11, 2009, 10:35:09 PM
Good book as well.
Ill have to read it :salute
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: SKJohn on March 11, 2009, 10:47:58 PM
IIRC that was based on a historical incident, too. It might have been Frank Luke.

IIRC, Frank Luke used his handgun to resist capture after he was on the ground - and was shot by the German soldiers with rifles.  I've never heard of him using his handgun from a plane in flight.  And of course, with me being from Arizona, it makes me an instant authority on all things pertaining to the fellow Arizonian Frank Luke.  :D
 Luke's mistake was bringing a handgun to a rifle fight. OTOH if he'd had a Glock instead of that POS Colt 1911, things might have turned out diffferently.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Hajo on March 12, 2009, 01:03:05 AM
Flyboys and the latest Pearl Harbor Production.

Seems as they came from the same Producers and Directors.

Horrible.....no accuracy at all.  Effects were lousy as well.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Cthulhu on March 12, 2009, 09:46:59 AM
I don't think there will ever be a truly good aircombat movie again, perhaps a more modern or futuristic one but never WWI or WW2 again.
Once again, check out Dark Blue World. The air combat segments are pretty good. (I dare you not to laugh at the bicycle scenes :)) Damn good movie as well.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: RMrider on March 12, 2009, 09:55:06 AM
Great movie, I suggest everyone who plays Aces High sees it, its where i got my new name from, Cassidy is the ubber stick with the lion who dies to HO  :noid

 :salute sir, flew with you the other day over TT, didnt know it was you.

Flyboys is one of my favorite movies of all time, everytime i watch it makes me want to go get in one of my 190s and PWN  :D
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: SIK1 on March 12, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
Truthfuly I like "Dawn Patrol" better than "The Blue Max". Granted DP is b&w, but I think it conveys the fatalistic feelings of the pilots better than BM. Both are excellent movies imho.
I haven't seen Flyboys yet so I can't comment on that.
Title: Re: Flyboys
Post by: Enker on March 12, 2009, 06:39:34 PM
Flyboys was pretty bad, but it wasn't the worst airplane movie ever made.  That distinction goes to "Memphis Belle" with Billy Zane.
Hey, I thought the Memphis Belle was a nice movie, I mean, at least they showed bombers exploding. The book is even worse.