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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Murdr on March 20, 2009, 10:09:13 PM
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That was an awsome series finally! Brilliant :aok Cudos to the writers an producers.
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Started out pretty good then nose dived into boredom. Maybe they will get something entertaining after Caprica bombs.
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It's over, isn't it?
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yes it was a good ending
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I thought it was ok.I expected a little more.I honestly thought they were all goin to die.Not a bad end to the series.Considering how miserable the tone of the show was for all those seasons I was suprised to see an up beat ending.
Looks like they got a good couple new shows comeing out.
Pipz
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Started out pretty good then nose dived into boredom. Maybe they will get something entertaining after Caprica bombs.
Guess you didn't see the promo for BSG "THE PLAN" its supposed to be about how things went down from the Cylons persective.
.....I'm hopeful
I actually really liked the finale. It was different, a happy ending but with a price :salute
after Caprica bombs
Didnt "bomb" already I mean before it even airs? The promo said it comes out on the 21st IIRC on DVD or to D/L from da web....last I heard the execs further up the food chain weren't getting their skirts "blown up" by this series. honestly from what little I saw....I'm not impressed :rolleyes:. The story line just isn't entertaining to me, it's obvious that 2 fathers build "replicas" of their dead daughters, blah blah blah, i wanna see space battles with NOOKS MAN!!!!! :rock :rock :rock :pray :salute :t
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Yep, "BSG the Plan" sounds interesting. I'm not too sure about Caprica, but I'll give it a chance when it comes out.
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I have the same thoughts.Hopefully something will pan out.Stargate seems to be getting some new material as well.I just hope we end up with "something" decent to watch <G> BSG is goin to be hard to beat....or even come close to.I have to say I think they did a realy good job with that series.
Pipz
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I didn't like the path they chose at the end. It's like they gave up. As long as we're working with an alternate history, why throw it all away? I know that they had a moral to the story in the last 60 seconds of the show, but they could have figured out some other way to express that moral without what I consider to be a really dumb premise. Read on for why...
Spoilers below.
It's all naturist nonsense... 90% or more of them would have died the first winter after throwing away the trappings of civilization in the name of a "fresh start", the "choices" they made would be nearly universally fatal within just a few weeks (I'm going to live alone on an island where there are no people... nonsense, he'd be dead in a week or two, tops), and their intentions would have meant absolutely nothing when they realized they would have to use their bare hands and spend their entire waking days just looking for food. Even the savages with their spears could have found them and taken them down the first time things got tough.
In short, the ending was nonsense, just a slow painful way to suicide, taking thousands of "innocents" (the civilians who probably had no choice in the matter) with them. In reality, the civilians would have fought those retard "leaders" who made that decision, and fought harder than they fought the cylons, because the leadership essentially killed everyone in a rather horrible way after working so hard to save their lives. There is no way in hell you could take people with their level of knowledge and culture, dump them into a raw natural environment, and expect a mere fraction to live past the first year. And the thousands who died would die by starvation, illness, or from otherwise "simple" injuries that would have to go untreated because they drove sick bay into the sun.
Dumb ending. The moral in the last 60 seconds probably tied up the whole show pretty well IMHO, but how it went down was idiocy, a mass murder/suicide plot.
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BAH! i'm not reposting what I already typed...to dang tired
here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,261053.0.html
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I thought it was ok.I expected a little more.I honestly thought they were all goin to die.
They did all die. Horrible deaths in fact.
I taught wilderness survival long enough to be very confident that they would have suffered greatly and only a fraction would live very long.
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BAH! i'm not reposting what I already typed...to dang tired
here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,261053.0.html
Well. That's a duplicate topic. This thread is over 2 minutes older than the other one :P
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(I'm going to live alone on an island where there are no people... nonsense, he'd be dead in a week or two, tops).
That was only Adama and Galen, both were in a state to say "frak it".
It's all naturist nonsense... 90% or more of them would have died the first winter after throwing away the trappings of civilization in the name of a "fresh start", the "choices" they made would be nearly universally fatal within just a few weeks
Winter eh? When Adama was pointing at the map the locations were in temperate zones from what I saw.
And the thousands who died would die by starvation, illness, or from otherwise "simple" injuries that would have to go untreated because they drove sick bay into the sun.
Yea, on that point I didn't buy it. The idea of not keeping their medical technology.
In short, the ending was nonsense, just a slow painful way to suicide, taking thousands of "innocents" (the civilians who probably had no choice in the matter) with them. In reality, the civilians would have fought those retard "leaders" who made that decision, and fought harder than they fought the cylons, because the leadership essentially killed everyone in a rather horrible way after working so hard to save their lives. There is no way in hell you could take people with their level of knowledge and culture, dump them into a raw natural environment, and expect a mere fraction to live past the first year.
Dumb ending. The moral in the last 60 seconds probably tied up the whole show pretty well IMHO, but how it went down was idiocy, a mass murder/suicide plot.
That seems a bit of a hard line judgment of a Sci Fi story :) And also a bit hard on human resourcefulness. Granted there would be a harsh survival learning curve. Lampkin expressed your point of view about the reaction of the general popluation though. Not that I'm blind to the points you brought up, but as a story (now as a whole), I enjoyed it. I could not decifer most of the clues of where they were going with it (dissapointingly so, a majority of shows it's painfully obvious to me what the details of the story will end up being), and I was impressed with how they brought all the clues together at the end in such a limited amout of time.
Actually I had a different take on "the story" overall. Aside from the "moral" at the very end, what I got out of it was that it was very much a story about the redemption of Gaius Baltar.
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Adama and Galen were basically committing suicide pretty obvious. It's been clear Galen has been living on the edge of sanity for a very long time, and is just dying for a way out of his life (no pun intended).
Adama has been at the precipice for a while as well, it didn't help that his love died. I don't think he has any plans on building the cabin.
As far as your theory on people leaving civilization (technology) behind. Read a history of Jamestown sometime, plenty of people died the first couple of years. Yet here we are with a country of 300mil or so. The human spirit can persevere against pretty crazy odds, just look at our own history throughout the world. We have survive through plagues, famine, wars, colonization etc.
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I like it! From a guy who has watched the show since the mine series I o4 I was happy with the ending!.
Yep, "BSG the Plan" sounds interesting. I'm not too sure about Caprica, but I'll give it a chance when it comes out.
I hear that can`t wait to see :salute
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I could not decifer most of the clues of where they were going with it (dissapointingly so, a majority of shows it's painfully obvious to me what the details of the story will end up being), and I was impressed with how they brought all the clues together at the end in such a limited amout of time.
I think this is what made the show interesting.For once it was hard to see where they were taking the story.One of the scenes "one of many" that suprised me was when that girl D went into the locker room all happy with a big smile only to pull a gun from her locker and shoot herself.I should have relaized something was up for a character to be that happy on BSG <G>
Pipz
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Well, after giving it some thought, if you recall the original series, the beginning credits had the narrator saying something like "some believe, life here, began out there".
So with that in mind the ending was atleast in part a homage to TOS BSG.
I also liked how when the Galactica and the rest of the fleet were heading into the sun they played the original theme (would have been better if it was the more dramatic version, like a :salute to the old girl).
I dunno why but when ships of my favorite shows (the Enterprise or the Galactica) are off to be destroyed, I get a lil misty eyed :cry. The characters can die off, suffer greatly...no biggy but the ships they get me a lil choked up.
One thing tho, Where did lampkins dog come from? I know he had a cat (deceased) but, hwo the frak did he get a doggy? Somebody just "gave" him one?
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I kinda know what ya mean about the ships.I think it is pretty obvious Admiral Adama and others felt the same way <G> Its almost like the ships are a character themselves.It was a shame to see Galactica pull that last jump and then break its back.
Apollo gave Lampkin the dog after someone had killed his cat.
Pipz
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I didn't like the path they chose at the end. It's like they gave up. As long as we're working with an alternate history, why throw it all away? I know that they had a moral to the story in the last 60 seconds of the show, but they could have figured out some other way to express that moral without what I consider to be a really dumb premise. Read on for why...
Spoilers below.
It's all naturist nonsense... 90% or more of them would have died the first winter after throwing away the trappings of civilization in the name of a "fresh start", the "choices" they made would be nearly universally fatal within just a few weeks (I'm going to live alone on an island where there are no people... nonsense, he'd be dead in a week or two, tops), and their intentions would have meant absolutely nothing when they realized they would have to use their bare hands and spend their entire waking days just looking for food. Even the savages with their spears could have found them and taken them down the first time things got tough.
In short, the ending was nonsense, just a slow painful way to suicide, taking thousands of "innocents" (the civilians who probably had no choice in the matter) with them. In reality, the civilians would have fought those retard "leaders" who made that decision, and fought harder than they fought the cylons, because the leadership essentially killed everyone in a rather horrible way after working so hard to save their lives. There is no way in hell you could take people with their level of knowledge and culture, dump them into a raw natural environment, and expect a mere fraction to live past the first year. And the thousands who died would die by starvation, illness, or from otherwise "simple" injuries that would have to go untreated because they drove sick bay into the sun.
Dumb ending. The moral in the last 60 seconds probably tied up the whole show pretty well IMHO, but how it went down was idiocy, a mass murder/suicide plot.
I hear what your saying but consider this: Maybe some of the people didnt want a clean slate and give up all their technology. Maybe all of them were on one ship, found a nice temperate island, built a beautiful city using their technology. Maybe name it in the theme of the colonies something like.....hmm i dunno maybe Atlantis?
unfortunately they all succumb to a natural disaster and it is all lost :eek:.
Hmm might be a good premise for a spin off :cool:
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...hmm i dunno maybe Atlantis?
I was thinking of Atlantis during the 'observing the natives' scene.
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Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod? I had to laugh. This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods..... As well, didn't a single raptor jumping from just outside Gallactica (Boomer stealing Hera) almost rip it apart from spacial distortion, but 5 of them jumping from inside...did nothing?
All in all, interesting ending, though implausible. Of course, the whole premise of the show was implausible. I had always wished they got back to the first season's terse writing. "33" was brilliant in it's simplicity. There was obviously a shift to make the series more operatic.
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Another fine review by the avid fan, Tango.
Anyways, I thought the first half was excellent and the mop up gets a pretty good. Some may say a little corny and were probably turned off by the tears, but thats life. They fought and died for 4 seasons, I think it was time to cry a little. I think the ending paid homage to the original well.
Throughout the whole series, I absolutely loved the character of Baltar. Though it did dim for me when he had the whole cult thing, overall he had the best storyline throughout the series. And I'm glad for his redemption. and the whole Caprica six thing.
I cheered pretty good when Galen killed Tory. That whole scene right there with the salvation and resurrection so close to the end and then chaos, excellent.
I loved how they went back and played some of the soundtracks from Season 1. I'd recommend people to buy the OST to the show's seasons, there is some excellent music on there. And if you're interested, the orchestral music played during the last half were based off of Season 1's tracks 24. Passacaglia and 27. The Shape of things to come. Some of the best tracks I've ever heard in TV of film TBO.
Only downsides to it were: I did think more characters would die in the battle. I did feel a little cheated that Kara just vanished, but it leads it open to interpretation (though it was very fitting with Lee at the end). I wasn't totally sold on the clean slate when Lampkin asked about it and Adama gave it a one sentence answer. I would have preferred a better speech to sway for the argument, rather than be brushed off. I also think it would have been MUCH more dramatic to see Helo die as so Sharon can go after Harah. I was disappointed to see him at the end. Not real shocker of the ending. I still think the ending to the Sopranos was by far one of my most teasured.
I will deeply miss the show. I hope the spinoffs do justice. It was kind of by chance that I picked up on this show 5 years ago. I was bored on a day off and nothing on TV. I can recall seeing a promo for BSG on sci-fi the other day and I decided I'd download one of the episodes. The rest of that Saturday and Sunday I became incredibly enthralled by watching the entire first season and instantly became my favorite TV sci-fi show. For me (at least), it can stand near my religious upbringing of Star Wars.
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Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod? I had to laugh. This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods..... As well, didn't a single raptor jumping from just outside Gallactica (Boomer stealing Hera) almost rip it apart from spacial distortion, but 5 of them jumping from inside...did nothing?
All in all, interesting ending, though implausible. Of course, the whole premise of the show was implausible. I had always wished they got back to the first season's terse writing. "33" was brilliant in it's simplicity. There was obviously a shift to make the series more operatic.
The front of the port flight pod was shown in one of the previous episodes. I agree its odd how it could have survived AND then there is the 5 raptors jumping BUT, its a sci-fi show. There is gonna be irregularities.
I duno why you think its a implausible ending. Are you talking about the "naturalist" thing like eagle was? If so then I disagree <as I do with eagle>
In the show they never said exactly what they were taking or considered "essentials". Adama had a whole raptor! (imagine some archealogists suprise upon digging THAT thing up :rofl)
Anywho, the majority of the people I would think stayed together. we only saw Adama and Tyrol go off by themselves. It would have been tough but they landed in temperate zones. and tho they broke off into groups on different continents I think they could have made it. Even if it was 5 groups of about 7500 ppl they could have still made it. The show didnt really dwell on how or what supply's they took so we really dont know.
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Even if it was 5 groups of about 7500 ppl they could have still made it. The show didnt really dwell on how or what supply's they took so we really dont know.
I agree. Just because I didn't see it all on the TV screen, doesn't mean they couldn't bring it along. I don't enjoy being handed word for word. Without leaving room for at least some interpretation, you've taken the whole point away from discussing the show.
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Also, some good outtakes on http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/
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Another fine review by the avid fan, Tango.
I don't like to have a hollywood type preaching at me how mankind is destroying itself, especially when it comes to progress in technology. I watch TV and movies to be entertained. If I want to learn about issues that we are facing in real life I will read a book or look for documentary shows about the subject. Watching a Science Fiction show is just that, FICTION. In this case bad fiction.
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I loved it. While there were some loose ends, most importantly I liked the fates of the characters and the old bucket.
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I don't like to have a hollywood type preaching at me how mankind is destroying itself, especially when it comes to progress in technology. I watch TV and movies to be entertained. If I want to learn about issues that we are facing in real life I will read a book or look for documentary shows about the subject. Watching a Science Fiction show is just that, FICTION. In this case bad fiction.
Nice tin foil hat you have there.
Terminator movies
The Matrix movies
2001 A Space Odyssey
I robot
Just a few examples of the very common sci-fi theme of artificial intelligence deciding to turn on their creators. Lignten up Francis
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Except that those movies didn't go into current political issues of the day trying to teach a moral issue. An example, prisoner torture. I turned off that episode because it was making a slap at the guys defending our troops and the country.
Also you KNOW what those movies are about from the advertisements. There is a difference between being entertained and preached at.
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Also you KNOW what those movies are about from the advertisements.
Eww yea, KFC is right up there with Greenpeace and the Sierra Club :noid
Except that those movies didn't go into current political issues of the day trying to teach a moral issue. An example, prisoner torture. I turned off that episode because it was making a slap at the guys defending our troops and the country.
Which one? Where Thrace beats the crap out of, and nearly drowns a Leobin in a bowl of water, and eventually the president has him flushed out an airlock? Where the Pegasus officer attempts to rape an 8 prisoner and Galen and Helo accidently kill him? Where the Pegasus crew tortures and rapes the 6 that seduced Cain, and she evetually escapes and murders Cain?
I give the whine 5 noids out of 5 :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid Watch out for the black helocopters.
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I liked the very last scene where RDM is holding the article titled 'Man kinds first Mother'... I didn't notice it was him until I watched it a second time...
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I don't like to have a hollywood type preaching at me how mankind is destroying itself, especially when it comes to progress in technology. I watch TV and movies to be entertained. If I want to learn about issues that we are facing in real life I will read a book or look for documentary shows about the subject. Watching a Science Fiction show is just that, FICTION. In this case bad fiction.
If that's how you feel you should stay away from SciFi all together. It is full of morality teachings, especially the older works. Arthur C. Clark (preached about mankind destroying itself), H. G. Wells (preached about mankind destroying itself), Issac Asimov (preached about mankind destroying itself), Ray Bradbury (preached about mankind destroying itself), Robert A. Heinlein(preached about mankind destroying itself), Douglas Adams (preached about mankind destroying itself, but was funny about it)...
Actually, morality teachings run rampant in SciFi.
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Murdr those aren't exactly the same. BSG doesn't have the depth of realism that you find in e.g. Terminator. It fails at giving its epic scale resolution to match. On top of that... Well, my personal beef is a bit like Tango's and Eagl's. I can't stand the defeatism and endless guilt and self-pity. The naturism like Eagl points out is bogus. It could have been done right, it's not inherently a bad choice, but the execution was crappy. That rapturous "greater than us" angle was rushed.
TBH I think BSG never outgrew being just a soap opera. When I watched it I always had the guilty feeling that I was putting up with bad acting and scripts just to get a dose of SF space opera. A lot like that awful melodramatic nonsense and endless filler in series like Star Trek. Esp. e.g. ST: Enterprise.
e.g. Baltard. That guy just goes on and on into loops of miserable character development. It doesn't ever really move forward. Kind of like those fake schemes like Scientology or TV evangelism or self-help "gurus". They make you buy into a premise to self-fulfill their "cure". But that cure and final act never really works because it's fake, no matter how much the viewer/reader wants to buy into it for that cathartic feeling. Baltard was stuck inside a fishbowl and makes the viewer yearn for denouement.. But the denouement's still just a goldfish jumping out of a five inch fishbowl. Yawn.
The real shame is that we're all stuck with this so-so kind of SF. The Scifi channel splurged out its resources on endless crappy B-level series to survive. There's tons of potential in SF, but apparently not enough public interest to fuel quality productions to match that potential. A lot like real space exploration and colonization dwarfs anything possible down here on Earth, but never materializes because all but the whole population of the planet either doesn't care or can't live with the discomforts of that initial cost in tooling up for it, or somehow refuse to think outside their box.
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I think BSG never outgrew being just a soap opera.
RDM always said it was a mature drama that happens to take place in space. I'm not sure why you'd expect it to deviate from that.
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Because the point of SF is breaking conventions like that one.
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Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod? I had to laugh. This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods..... As well, didn't a single raptor jumping from just outside Gallactica (Boomer stealing Hera) almost rip it apart from spacial distortion, but 5 of them jumping from inside...did nothing?
After watching the show again on my dvr I watched this scene in slow-mo and actually when they jumped it pretty much blew out the whole side of the port flight pod. Just thought I point that out :aok
Also after watching it again It's amazing how much I missed, glad I recorded it
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I regret not having recorded it. I would have love to watch it again. Oh well, just get the season thingie when it comes out.
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Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod? I had to laugh. This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods.
They've always launched and recovered from the port flight pod, and once landed a raptor in the stbd one where the museum is. I actually thought the museum was destroyed when a heavy raider crashed through the glass however?
After watching the show again on my dvr I watched this scene in slow-mo and actually when they jumped it pretty much blew out the whole side of the port flight pod. Just thought I point that out :aok
Also after watching it again It's amazing how much I missed, glad I recorded it
Indeed it did...I noticed they also replaced the original 70's cyclon centurion model 0005 in the case with the new CGI version.
I liked the ending, it hardly matters whether it was possible the colonials could've survived - you would then have to argue whether the entire story could've really existed the way it did...I guess thats why its called fiction
Tronsky
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But all this "leave technology behind" makes no sense. You have all this clean, incredibly advanced technology from the cylons and they decide to leave it all behind. I very much prefer the "Wall-E" solution, in which, at the end, they rebuild humanity on earth with the help of robots.
Oh, and BTW, weren't skinjobs sylica-based lifeforms? Hera should be as well, at least in part. And they don't find that when they find her fossilized body? Pity this ending doesn't withstand the slightest analysis. Of course it's science-fiction, but even in this case, you have to be loyal to the bases you have established, and BSG clearly does not.
Daniel
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I ran across this final episode Q & A with producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick and thought you guys might be interested.
Regards,
Sun
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html
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Sure a lot of hate from people that 'watched' the series and the finale. I'm sure there's a reality tv show you're missing on 36 other networks. Qeue up obvious trolls are obvious pics plz.
Do your Sci-Fi's need more lasers and space battles? Less talky talky? I'm not sure what cookie cutter mold you're looking for in a show or movie.
I'm really not sure how Sci-Fi (I mean SyFy, lol?) channel continues to produce made for tv B movies. How that is finacially successful I will not understand. I guess making one crappy 2 hour movie every week or so is cheaper than producing a whole show. Plus you can rerun those movies forever once you've produced enough. I know BSG pulled in the highest ratings for the channel (at least for the majority of its run), but the majority of its time it was spent on Friday Nights, briefly on Sunday. I can only imagine NBC didn't want it to compete from their shows.
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Do your Sci-Fi's need more lasers and space battles? Less talky talky? I'm not sure what cookie cutter mold you're looking for in a show or movie.
How about less soapy soapy and more speculative fiction? BSG is exactly a cookie cutter. It's (was) just another soap in scifi clothing to grab ratings.
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How about less soapy soapy and more speculative fiction? BSG is exactly a cookie cutter. It's (was) just another soap in scifi clothing to grab ratings.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!
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moot I'll agree with you Post Season 2. Not sure how much you actually watched but Season 1 and 2 were absolutely top notch. The entire show sort of lost its way after episode 4 into season 3. It was still good... but not great. I will say though that the finale was beautifully executed for how bad they frakked the show up.
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moot I'll agree with you Post Season 2. Not sure how much you actually watched but Season 1 and 2 were absolutely top notch. The entire show sort of lost its way after episode 4 into season 3. It was still good... but not great. I will say though that the finale was beautifully executed for how bad they frakked the show up.
Season 3 middle of the way through was the writing conflicts with Moore and SciFi. Sci-Fi wanted to move away from the continous storyline to a single story per episode format as it would attract more viewers that didn't watch it from the beginning. But as Moore later won the argument, that format did not sit well with the direction of the show. So I agree that the middle of Season 3 not on par with the rest.
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just watched it.
thoughts?
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I'll give the finale an 8 out of 10..
- abandoning technology seemed unrealistic, at a minimum they would need to make sure they had a consistant way to produce food before even considering doing something like that. They would also need to protect themselves from predators, that would also include protecting themselves from the indigenous humans living there.
- The few characters that seemed to go off to live by themselves is really ridiculous. Every single one of them would die as soon as winter sets in.
- destroying the remaining fleet also seemed a weird thing to do. It would have made more sense to me if they said they had to do it to make sure the 'bad cylons' (assuming any were left) would have much more difficult time finding them if the fleet was destroyed. If I remember correctly there was one episode where the cylons said they were able to track the fleet because of some kind of radiation signature coming from ships. If that was the case then getting rid of the fleet would make sense in that case.
- Starbuck disappearing at the end without a clear reason as to what she was at first seemed disappointing. But in the long run it was probably the best thing to do.
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So Starbuck was a "Being of Light" from the original series after all.
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Tronsky
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One of the reasons I liked BSG so much is that it left things up to the imagination. This imnsho the way sci-fi should be. Not having everything handed to you on a silver plater.
in retrospect RDM did pay alot of homage to TOS. Beings of light, life here beginning out there ECT.. Its all subtle but there are many. Ya just gotta fill in the blanks with your imagination.
Like how in the original the beings of light gave startbuck, apollo, and sheba the heading they should take to earth. In the new version starbuck was given the coord to punch into the ftl, she didn't realize it but it was implanted via the music.
There are lots of parallels that if you really watch and think about you will find.
I was always a fan of TOS and I know that if most of the fans that hated the "new" version really payed attention they would see ALOT of the original's story and plots just re imagined in the new one.
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I liked both verions. I don't see why you have to like one or the other.
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Deus Ex.
I couldn't agree more.
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I finally got around to watching this.
More than anything I was just glad that they wrapped things up. I tend to punch out of shows early, and BSG was no exception. I've seen all the episodes, but I stopped really focusing on after two seasons.
I always thought Star Trek was really really preachy too. Especially TOS.
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I have to give the series 6/10. It was entertaining, but there was so much more they could have done with the original concept of the running battle that just never played out in this version. I guess they decided that having "fleshies" onboard equalled the running battle the humans faced in the original series. I wanted to see more aerial combat like the original had, not a space soap opera.