BSG Series finale

[soda72]

I liked the very last scene where RDM is holding the article titled 'Man kinds first Mother'...  I didn't notice it was him until I watched it a second time...

 

[kotrenin]

I don't like to have a hollywood type preaching at me how mankind is destroying itself, especially when it comes to progress in technology. I watch TV and movies to be entertained. If I want to learn about issues that we are facing in real life I will read a book or look for documentary shows about the subject. Watching a Science Fiction show is just that, FICTION. In this case bad fiction.

If that's how you feel you should stay away from SciFi all together.  It is full of morality teachings,  especially the older works.  Arthur C. Clark (preached about mankind destroying itself),  H. G. Wells (preached about mankind destroying itself), Issac Asimov (preached about mankind destroying itself), Ray Bradbury (preached about mankind destroying itself), Robert A. Heinlein(preached about mankind destroying itself), Douglas Adams (preached about mankind destroying itself, but was funny about it)...

Actually, morality teachings run rampant in SciFi.

[moot]

Murdr those aren't exactly the same.  BSG doesn't have the depth of realism that you find in e.g. Terminator.  It fails at giving its epic scale resolution to match.  On top of that... Well, my personal beef is a bit like Tango's and Eagl's. I can't stand the defeatism and endless guilt and self-pity. The naturism like Eagl points out is bogus. It could have been done right, it's not inherently a bad choice, but the execution was crappy.  That rapturous "greater than us" angle was rushed.
TBH I think BSG never outgrew being just a soap opera.  When I watched it I always had the guilty feeling that I was putting up with bad acting and scripts just to get a dose of SF space opera.  A lot like that awful melodramatic nonsense and endless filler in series like Star Trek.  Esp. e.g. ST: Enterprise.

e.g. Baltard.  That guy just goes on and on into loops of miserable character development. It doesn't ever really move forward. Kind of like those fake schemes like Scientology or TV evangelism or self-help "gurus".  They make you buy into a premise to self-fulfill their "cure". But that cure and final act never really works because it's fake, no matter how much the viewer/reader wants to buy into it for that cathartic feeling. Baltard was stuck inside a fishbowl and makes the viewer yearn for denouement.. But the denouement's still just a goldfish jumping out of a five inch fishbowl. Yawn.

The real shame is that we're all stuck with this so-so kind of SF.  The Scifi channel splurged out its resources on endless crappy B-level series to survive. There's tons of potential in SF, but apparently not enough public interest to fuel quality productions to match that potential.  A lot like real space exploration and colonization dwarfs anything possible down here on Earth, but never materializes because all but the whole population of the planet either doesn't care or can't live with the discomforts of that initial cost in tooling up for it, or somehow refuse to think outside their box.

[Murdr]

I think BSG never outgrew being just a soap opera.

RDM always said it was a mature drama that happens to take place in space.  I'm not sure why you'd expect it to deviate from that.

[moot]

Because the point of SF is breaking conventions like that one.

[WilldCrd]

Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod?  I had to laugh.  This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods.....  As well, didn't a single raptor jumping from just outside Gallactica (Boomer stealing Hera) almost rip it apart from spacial distortion, but 5 of them jumping from inside...did nothing?   

After watching the show again on my dvr I watched this scene in slow-mo and actually when they jumped it pretty much blew out the whole side of the port flight pod. Just thought I point that out 
Also after watching it again It's amazing how much I missed, glad I recorded it

[texasmom]

I regret not having recorded it.   I would have love to watch it again. Oh well, just get the season thingie when it comes out.

[-tronski-]

Anyone else notice the raptor assault from the port hangar pod?  I had to laugh.  This Battlestar has been floating around for 7+ years, in a constant state of combat... and they never took down the museum/ glass enclosure from the port hangar?Although, in past episodes they do show Vipers and Raptors recovering from missions into both hangar pods.

They've always launched and recovered from the port flight pod, and once landed a raptor in the stbd one where the museum is. I actually thought the museum was destroyed when a heavy raider crashed through the glass however?

After watching the show again on my dvr I watched this scene in slow-mo and actually when they jumped it pretty much blew out the whole side of the port flight pod. Just thought I point that out 
Also after watching it again It's amazing how much I missed, glad I recorded it

Indeed it did...I noticed they also replaced the original 70's cyclon centurion model 0005 in the case with the new CGI version.


I liked the ending, it hardly matters whether it was possible the colonials could've survived - you would then have to argue whether the entire story could've really existed the way it did...I guess thats why its called fiction

 Tronsky

[CyranoAH]

But all this "leave technology behind" makes no sense. You have all this clean, incredibly advanced technology from the cylons and they decide to leave it all behind. I very much prefer the "Wall-E" solution, in which, at the end, they rebuild humanity on earth with the help of robots.

Oh, and BTW, weren't skinjobs sylica-based lifeforms? Hera should be as well, at least in part. And they don't find that when they find her fossilized body? Pity this ending doesn't withstand the slightest analysis. Of course it's science-fiction, but even in this case, you have to be loyal to the bases you have established, and BSG clearly does not.

Daniel

[Sundowner]

I ran across this final episode Q & A with producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick and thought you guys might be interested.

Regards,
Sun

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html

[Fulmar]

Sure a lot of hate from people that 'watched' the series and the finale.  I'm sure there's a reality tv show you're missing on 36 other networks.  Qeue up obvious trolls are obvious pics plz.

Do your Sci-Fi's need more lasers and space battles?  Less talky talky?  I'm not sure what cookie cutter mold you're looking for in a show or movie.

I'm really not sure how Sci-Fi (I mean SyFy, lol?) channel continues to produce made for tv B movies.  How that is finacially successful I will not understand.  I guess making one crappy 2 hour movie every week or so is cheaper than producing a whole show.  Plus you can rerun those movies forever once you've produced enough.  I know BSG pulled in the highest ratings for the channel (at least for the majority of its run), but the majority of its time it was spent on Friday Nights, briefly on Sunday.  I can only imagine NBC didn't want it to compete from their shows.

[moot]

Do your Sci-Fi's need more lasers and space battles?  Less talky talky?  I'm not sure what cookie cutter mold you're looking for in a show or movie.

How about less soapy soapy and more speculative fiction?  BSG is exactly a cookie cutter.  It's (was) just another soap in scifi clothing to grab ratings.

[Tango]

How about less soapy soapy and more speculative fiction?  BSG is exactly a cookie cutter.  It's (was) just another soap in scifi clothing to grab ratings.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fulmar]

[grizz441]

moot I'll agree with you Post Season 2.  Not sure how much you actually watched but Season 1 and 2 were absolutely top notch.  The entire show sort of lost its way after episode 4 into season 3.  It was still good... but not great.  I will say though that the finale was beautifully executed for how bad they frakked the show up.