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Title: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 22, 2009, 10:32:03 PM
This is for all you drumming fanatics...

Just out of curiosity. Who do you think the best drummer in the world is? Ive got two drummers who I believe are the best:

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h143/MIKEG666/PEART.jpg)
1st best drummer: Neil Peart "Der Trommler" from Rush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF-k4wg70rg

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g200/rkobatistababe/Avenged%20Sevenfold/revsullivan.jpg)
2nd best drummer: Jimmy Sullivan "The Rev" from Avenged Sevenfold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54W7QvProIk&feature=related
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 22, 2009, 10:32:55 PM
Keith Moon
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: RTHolmes on March 23, 2009, 05:12:30 AM
Manu Katche :aok
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: uptown on March 23, 2009, 06:19:57 AM
John Bonham
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Qrsu on March 23, 2009, 06:40:30 AM
Danny Carey is my all-time favorite.
Neil Peart is also a god.
Mike Portnoy isn't too bad either.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 23, 2009, 06:42:36 AM
Bah!...Easy one



(http://www.stanford.edu/group/blocklab/Muppets/animal%20Drums.jpg)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: sluggish on March 23, 2009, 07:14:17 AM
RINGO!!
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Xtrepid on March 23, 2009, 07:49:23 AM
All "Great" choices, and hard to pick a "Best". But, my throw ins would be...

Terry Bozzio
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/Xtrepid/terrybozzio1a.jpg)
The Set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxe-SWxDEcw
The Old Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqkQmTs0Sek

Billy Cobham
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/Xtrepid/billy1.jpg)
Short Solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYGa8A9Fog
Jazzy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGCBnzWnnL4

Plus I'm partial to Yamaha Percussion and Attack Heads...
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/Xtrepid/yamahaXtreme.jpg)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: ink on March 23, 2009, 07:52:04 AM
sorry to piss in every ones corn flakes (except uptown)

John Henry Bonham, was, is, and will always be the greatest drummer to play music.

every one else is just pretending  :rock


no seriously, I know that's just my opinion and there, most likely is technically better then Bonham, but I just love his style and sound.

I must say I don't know what his name is but if you have seen a movie called "drum line" the guy who does the drum work in that is crazy awesome.


Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Mickey1992 on March 23, 2009, 08:00:43 AM
Neil Peart.  No comparison.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: RTHolmes on March 23, 2009, 08:01:27 AM
Billy Cobham
:aok

Art Blakey too :cool:

I helped set up Peter Gabriels Secret World tour and took a break every afternoon just so I could listen to Manu warming up, got to play his kit too for soundchecks, sounded quite good through a 50k turbosound rig :D
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: sluggish on March 23, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
Portnoy is good, but like a machine, no soul.  Bonzo had a fantastic heart and played with great abandon and feeling, but was not technically great by today's standards.  Peart is technically fantastic while also maintaining a very human feel but is disqualified for being Canadian, therefore my pick is Buddy Rich.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Slade on March 23, 2009, 09:37:11 AM
Ya know this kinda thread makes it easy to spot who the drummers are.  :aok

You guys have some great entries.  How bout adding this bunch:


There are so many.  I kept it brief

Slade
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 09:44:40 AM
sorry to piss in every ones corn flakes (except uptown)

John Henry Bonham, was, is, and will always be the greatest drummer to play music.

every one else is just pretending  :rock


no seriously, I know that's just my opinion and there, most likely is technically better then Bonham, but I just love his style and sound.

I must say I don't know what his name is but if you have seen a movie called "drum line" the guy who does the drum work in that is crazy awesome.




*Cough* Gotta give Neil Peart SOME credit... *Cough*  ;)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: ink on March 23, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
*Cough* Gotta give Neil Peart SOME credit... *Cough*  ;)


ya he's got a nice kit :lol
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: VonMessa on March 23, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
Bonham..

and Mike Portnoy....

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Music%20Pics/DanMike.jpg)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 23, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
Here's mine ... my daughter, best thing after Travis Barker :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqsS-7HFrU&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 10:45:01 AM
Haha Frenchy... That video is priceless!!!  :D
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 23, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
Bonham didn't come into his own until he settled down briefly around the time of "Physical Graffiti", because of Jason being almost 10 years old.  He then worked on his technique, which was further showcased on "Presence" and "In through the out door."   His best drum work was on "Achilles Last Stand."   Don't get me wrong I like John a lot, I used to mention him alongside Keith Moon.    But there is no comparison.

I drummed for 14 years and was self-taught.   I know a "little" about drumming.  

I'd put Portnoy up there before Bonham.   Portnoy has always been been balls out, he's a "craftsman" behind the kit.  This is the one drummer I have yet to see close up.   
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Hajo on March 23, 2009, 10:58:14 AM
Ginger Baker  (most of you prolly don't know who he is)  You are to young  :D  And your opinions are narrowed by that fact.

Baker was always around it, never on it, but knew where it was.

Most of you are probably 30 and under.  It is nice to know rock and roll from its' beginning.  To have heard everyone.

Most of you are basing your decisions of what you've heard or like.  Listen to the past like Xargos did in the post about Bass players.

If someone says Ringo Starr I'm gonna scream  :D

If you want the best example of his work I think the song Crossroads was his best...along with White Room etc. 


Anyone hear of Gene Krupa?  Buddy Rich?  those two gents could play also....and they didn't have the equipment they have today.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: VonMessa on March 23, 2009, 11:42:15 AM
Bonham didn't come into his own until he settled down briefly around the time of "Physical Graffiti", because of Jason being almost 10 years old.  He then worked on his technique, which was further showcased on "Presence" and "In through the out door."   His best drum work was on "Achilles Last Stand."   Don't get me wrong I like John a lot, I used to mention him alongside Keith Moon.    But there is no comparison.

I drummed for 14 years and was self-taught.   I know a "little" about drumming.  

I'd put Portnoy up there before Bonham.   Portnoy has always been been balls out, he's a "craftsman" behind the kit.  This is the one drummer I have yet to see close up.   

He (Portnoy) goes to the chiropractor where my wife works as a massage therapist once a week when not on tour, or in the studio.  He gets an adjustment and a massage while he is there.  I would say that is pretty close-up   :)  When I first saw him there, it was too funny that most of the people in the office had no clue who he was.

He probably could be considered the best as he's been on the cover of modern drummer and voted the best about 5 or six times, now), but I still gotta say Bonham.

His sound was HUGE, he innovated many many things and had a right foot like a jackhammer.  He is certainly not the most technical, or learned, or polished but his style is so visceral, instinctive and complimentary to John Paul Jones and the rest of the band that one can't help but be floored by his playing.  I have been listening to him since I was 4 years old, cruising around in the back of my step-dad's 69 GTO and there are still times that I hear certain parts of songs (that I've heard a billion times) where I have to just stop and say DAMN!!!

All of the players mentioned in this post are great.  As a drummer, I love them all and I am always discovering new things, but I'll stick to my guns and say Bonham !!           

 :rock
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: bizz on March 23, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
Well IMO this a question without an answer, its more a matter of personal tastes and opinions.  That being said I'm right and the rest of you are wrong :rofl

Buddy Rich is the greatest ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWrxHP36N1Q

Bonham is the greatest pure Rock N Roll drummer ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14GYov0EdyQ Great track of just the drums on Fool In the Rain

JoJo Mayer is the best of the new breed.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8KYnEW-7Y

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: trax1 on March 23, 2009, 12:36:09 PM
Before I even opened this thread I was thinking, it better be Neil Peart. :aok

My second would be Travis Barker.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: DrDea on March 23, 2009, 01:07:30 PM
 Gotta go with Peart. Thats a massive kit and none of it is for show.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Anodizer on March 23, 2009, 01:34:09 PM
From the mainstream drumming aspect a few of my faves are:
Simon Phillips: probably the greatest session drummer that has ever lived.... 
Nicko McBrain:  Fastest right foot in rock-n-roll...  Does things that guys even on a double-bass kit can't do..  No one else can do his signature gallop beat with one foot like him..  All on
                     a vintage Ludwig Speedking, no less!  Although I think he's changed to DW as as peddles are concerned due to his age..
Steven Perkins:  Takes tribal drumming, mixes in a little of the hard-hitting rock style, and just let's it go....  Probably the John Bonham of the 90's/2000's.. 
Stuart Copeland: just because he sweet rocks and I absolutely love his style...

From a technical aspect:
Guys like Dave Weckl and Mike Portnoy, but they don't seem to have soul like someone else said here....
If I want to hear their kind of drumming, I'll listen to my Roland V-Drum beat and fill-in presets...

One thing that a lot of people don't understand is that drumming and percussion is no mainly about
how flashy you get or how technically inclined you are....  It's about timing.... 
If a drummer doesn't have timing, he's not worth squat...
I'd much rather have a guy that can play a 4/4 beat than opposed to guy who's all over the place on the
kit but can't come in on the right note...

I will go so far to say as I'm glad no one mention Lars Ulrich as he is more likely one of the more horrible drummers in
recent years....  Barely any technical aptitude whatsoever...  His timing is horrible...  Rumors persist that he has constant troubles with timing
especially when on tour (which I've hear myself).  Some guys just don't "get it" and keep flooding the music industry with straight-up bad drumming..
That sweetheart-drummer(the whole band are sweethearts) from creed/alterbridge comes to mind too.. 

But if I had to chose an all out favorite, it would have to be Buddy Rich..

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: SuBWaYCH on March 23, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Moon, Peart, Portnoy, Copeland, Bonham, Mitchell in that order.

Of course that is from a "kids" perspective so I could be wrong but I feel thats quite accurate.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: nipper on March 23, 2009, 01:50:14 PM
 As far as living drummers go I rate Brann Dailor (Mastodon), Will Scharf (Keelhaul), Des Kensel (High on Fire) and, oviously, Dave Lombardo (Slayer).

Best drummer ever though?

Bonham

full stop

the end

.....
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Dace on March 23, 2009, 01:55:52 PM
Not necessarily the best, but my faves are:

Neil Peart
John Bohnam
Keith Moon
Carl Palmer
Stuart Copeland
Ralph Humphrey
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 02:01:42 PM
One thing that a lot of people don't understand is that drumming and percussion is no mainly about
how flashy you get or how technically inclined you are....  It's about timing.... 
If a drummer doesn't have timing, he's not worth squat...
I'd much rather have a guy that can play a 4/4 beat than opposed to guy who's all over the place on the
kit but can't come in on the right note...

Very very well put!!! I agree with you 100% of the way. Timing is of utmost importance. Its what gives the music a "heartbeat" or a pulse. Without the heartbeat, the music is crap.  :rock

Gotta go with Peart. Thats a massive kit and none of it is for show.

Thank you so much!!  :salute
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: pdm on March 23, 2009, 02:04:06 PM
#1 ever is Buddy Rich.
Neil Peart
John Bohnam
Keith Moon
Ginger Baker
Tommy Aldridge
Alex Van Halen
Vinnie Paul
Stewart Copelnd
Phil Collins
Nigel Olson
Tommy Lee
Buddy Miles
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Anodizer on March 23, 2009, 02:14:40 PM
As far as living drummers go I rate Brann Dailor (Mastodon), Will Scharf (Keelhaul), Des Kensel (High on Fire) and, oviously, Dave Lombardo (Slayer).

Best drummer ever though?

Bonham

full stop

the end

.....

Don't forget yourself, Brant, Rubin, and Alfredo!

I feel bad that I never even thought of those guys...  Sorry for being stuck in the mainstream of things for a second...
Have you ever seen Keelhaul live?  Will was an absolute monster....  Heh, how about his signature "bringing back the hi-hat in reach with his foot"
will still banging away...  Bill rocks...
A big fan of Dave as well...  <S>
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Slade on March 23, 2009, 02:20:41 PM
Quote
Tommy Lee

Not on this planet. No way - no how.  At least not as a complete musician.  :eek:

He is a showman and it IS the entertainment business.  I give him that.  :salute





Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: bizz on March 23, 2009, 02:24:43 PM


One thing that a lot of people don't understand is that drumming and percussion is no mainly about
how flashy you get or how technically inclined you are....  It's about timing.... 
If a drummer doesn't have timing, he's not worth squat...
I'd much rather have a guy that can play a 4/4 beat than opposed to guy who's all over the place on the
kit but can't come in on the right note...


Bingo!!!!

This is exactly why I have a problem with the statement that Moonie was one of the greatest ever. I'm gonna piss some people off here but Moon was a great showman and an out of the box player but he was not a great drummer. Don't get me wrong I love Moon, IMO along with Krupa he is one of the most important drummers in history because of what he did to bring the drums out front. But as a time keeper, which is the drummers most important job he was lacking, Entwistle held that band together live.

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: lagger86 on March 23, 2009, 03:19:02 PM
Neil Peart and Buddy Rich are both at the top of the list. While I don't think Bonham was the greatest of all time, I think I liked his style the best. I'm not much of a Zepplin fan, but whenever I hear their music, the drums always stand out to me.

 My personal Favorite however would be Derrick Plourde. I'm sure not many know who he was, but the guy was insanely good.

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: 1Boner on March 23, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
Just sayin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-_wNsp7Wqo
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: 1Boner on March 23, 2009, 04:38:48 PM
Just found this one , anybody know who this guy is???

Definately worth watching the whole thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sj7lJqzJbY
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Bark0 on March 23, 2009, 05:28:13 PM
Ringo Starr
(http://www.tim-brooks.co.uk/images/drummer/ringo_starr.jpg)

(http://www.genesis-publications.com/books/ringo/ringopostcard.jpg)

(http://www.woodstick2007.com/images/RingoPhoto.jpg)

Look At that He Can Even Play drums On the Beach! Who else can do that!?! :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWNsdBfGacA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWNsdBfGacA&feature=related)

and yes I sometimes fly to this. The Drums are awesome!  :D

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: xNOVAx on March 23, 2009, 05:33:20 PM
In no particular order:

John Bonham
Keith Moon
Mike Portnoy
Carter Beauford
Neil Peart
Morgan Rose
Danny Carey
Chad Smith
Eric Kretz

 :rock
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 23, 2009, 05:56:15 PM
Outside of Peart, the best drummer I've personally seen would be Carl Palmer.   He can give most a run for their money.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: RTHolmes on March 23, 2009, 06:03:45 PM
glad to see stuart copeland getting some mentions, really like his style (a bit like Manu I guess).

as for bonzo, you got to love him but really, theres more to it than beating the ***t out of a kit. your honours, may I present as my first piece of evidence: Since Ive Been Lovin You. you can imagine the engineers looking at each other, then at bonzo, and thinking "well i'm not going to be the one to tell him..." ;)

if simon philips was the guy who played for Micheal Schenker many years ago then :aok

I've got to give a special mention for the stereophonics drummer - hes pretty standard but Ive never seen a guy who plainly enjoys his job quite as much as he does :D
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Anodizer on March 23, 2009, 06:05:19 PM
Aw, jeeze....  I forgot to add Danny Carey.....  How stupid of me... :lol

I admire this guy because, like Stephen Perkins, his technique and style of playing is completely unorthodox, yet it works perfectly..
In drumming, making every note hear-able along with being dynamic is key....  Lots of rock and metal drummers are just hard hitters with no
finesse, no sense of style, and definitely no dynamics..  

These guys make every note count....  I dig Mike Portnoy, but his technique and style of playing is very reminiscent of Neil Pert or even Dave Weckl..
But, I think he's probably one of the first guys in metal (prog metal specifically) that implemented this type of style and made it work....
Truthfully, however, that style isn't my thing although I can appreciate the skill and stamina taken to play like this for any length of time..

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Spikes on March 23, 2009, 06:07:50 PM
This is for all you drumming fanatics...

Just out of curiosity. Who do you think the best drummer in the world is? Ive got two drummers who I believe are the best:

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h143/MIKEG666/PEART.jpg)
1st best drummer: Neil Peart "Der Trommler" from Rush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF-k4wg70rg

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g200/rkobatistababe/Avenged%20Sevenfold/revsullivan.jpg)
2nd best drummer: Jimmy Sullivan "The Rev" from Avenged Sevenfold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54W7QvProIk&feature=related

Odd...well my first choice would be Neil. Oddly you chose the second one to be Rev, which is my favorite band. :)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Anodizer on March 23, 2009, 06:08:28 PM
glad to see stuart copeland getting some mentions, really like his style (a bit like Manu I guess).

as for bonzo, you got to love him but really, theres more to it than beating the ***t out of a kit. your honours, may I present as my first piece of evidence: Since Ive Been Lovin You. you can imagine the engineers looking at each other, then at bonzo, and thinking "well i'm not going to be the one to tell him..." ;)

if simon philips was the guy who played for Micheal Schenker many years ago then :aok

I've got to give a special mention for the stereophonics drummer - hes pretty standard but Ive never seen a guy who plainly enjoys his job quite as much as he does :D

If you dig Stuart, you should check out Oyster Head....  Trey Anastasio, Les Claypool, Stuart Copeland
One of the more classy supa-groups I've experienced in a while....  While I don't necessarily like Phish, I like Trey's style of playing here much better....
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: RTHolmes on March 23, 2009, 06:11:04 PM
thanks, will do :)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 06:19:59 PM
Check out Tim Yeung of "Divine Heresy" band. Hes the world's fastest base drum kicker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRBT-j38e_0
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: sluggish on March 23, 2009, 06:28:57 PM


as for bonzo, you got to love him but really, theres more to it than beating the ***t out of a kit. your honours, may I present as my first piece of evidence: Since Ive Been Lovin You. you can imagine the engineers looking at each other, then at bonzo, and thinking "well i'm not going to be the one to tell him..." ;)



Do you mean the squeaky kick pedal?
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 23, 2009, 06:37:39 PM
Since were just throwing names out, two more:

Max Roach
John Maher of the Buzznoodles
Bill Bruford
Ian Paice
Cozy Powell
Roger Taylor
Matt Cameron
Eric Kretz
Chad Gracey


Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: AWMac on March 23, 2009, 06:42:07 PM
nine, nine, number nine....
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 07:00:58 PM
Odd...well my first choice would be Neil. Oddly you chose the second one to be Rev, which is my favorite band. :)

Indeed, Avenged Sevenfold is one of my favorite bands as well! I like the way they blend mainstream rock with metal and punk. They call themselves "Metalcore" I believe...
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Spikes on March 23, 2009, 07:41:37 PM
Indeed, Avenged Sevenfold is one of my favorite bands as well! I like the way they blend mainstream rock with metal and punk. They call themselves "Metalcore" I believe...
Yeah I think so. I had the chance to see them in concert Saturday night at the Utica Aud. but I couldn't get the money for tickets.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: RTHolmes on March 23, 2009, 08:52:36 PM
Do you mean the squeaky kick pedal?

not at all, i like the squeeks and clunks and fretbuzz if its that kind of session, its just that arrangement is so much about dynamics and bonzo didnt really do subtle.

always liked jim capaldi too, had the opportunity to hear him and steve winwood jamming a little once, that was pretty special :cool:
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
Yeah I think so. I had the chance to see them in concert Saturday night at the Utica Aud. but I couldn't get the money for tickets.

Dude, Id be all over them tickets! Ive always wanted to see them in concert. Ive heard they are very very good live. Theyre coming to Columbus, Ohio for the Rock on the Range tour. Motley Crue will be the headliner band.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 23, 2009, 09:51:35 PM
Forget everything! THIS is the best drummer in the world!!! Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWv3mXq87W4&feature=related
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: 1pLUs44 on March 24, 2009, 12:26:42 AM
Buddy Rich for overall drumming.


For entertainment, and keeping me on my feet, Travis Barker.

I mean, damn dude, if you look at the way he moves his body when he drums, you're sometimes thinking "damn, how can you headbang, while playing the drums?? Ya know?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKQgDY0pZ68

Even though I hate rap, I just can't understand how the hell he can bang his head and what not while he's playing and stay on beat.

Here he is at some drum off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL0yEwyhYyY

I guess that's what makes him stand out? Idk

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: pdm on March 24, 2009, 09:29:47 AM
Since were just throwing names out, two more:

Max Roach
John Maher of the Buzzaxles
Bill Bruford
Ian Paice
Cozy Powell
Roger Taylor
Matt Cameron
Eric Kretz
Chad Gracey



:rofl...You left a few out. So i'll add em for ya :aok...
Carmine Appice
Vinnie Appice
Phil Rudd
Mick Fleetwood
Peter Criss (until around late 1978)Still deserves a mention :rock...
Randy Castillo
Bun E Carlos
Scott Rockinfield
Larry Mullin jr
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: bizz on March 24, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Thomas Pridgen from The Mars Volta. The dude is just sick :rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjrSihEI5CI

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: ODBAL on March 24, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
These are great threads, lots of opinions and theories.  Impossible to quantify as it is such a personal choice, much like asking "what is the best color?".  Although Dwight Schrute know's that color is black.  My personal favorites would be.

1. Nicko McBrain-Iron Maiden.   Unique style, looks like he is only hitting half the beats he is really hitting. Doesn't take himself too serious.  Amazing drummer.

2. Neil Pert-Rush.  He is Neil Pert from Rush.

3. Peter Criss-Kiss.  Nothing amazing, but probably impossible to count the number of drummers he has inspired and influenced over the course of his career.  Solid drummer.

4. Alex Van Halen-Van Halen.  Amazing drummer with a style all his own.

5. Clive Burr- Iron Maiden (The early years).  Because what up and coming drummer of the late 80's/early 90's didn't want to master the opening moments from "Run to the hills"?   Also because I love Iron Maiden  :D
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 24, 2009, 12:23:11 PM
:rofl...You left a few out. So i'll add em for ya :aok...
Carmine Appice
Vinnie Appice
Phil Rudd
Mick Fleetwood
Peter Criss (until around late 1978)Still deserves a mention :rock...
Randy Castillo
Bun E Carlos
Scott Rockinfield
Larry Mullin jr

Mitch Mitchell
Ginger Baker

We can go around in circles here.   One person mentioned that Keith Moon's "timing stunk", this is laughable at best.   He not only "kept time with Entwhistle", he added fills. 

Goto to YouTube and watch "A Quick One while he is away" from "Rock and Roll Circus".   
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Yeager on March 24, 2009, 12:29:18 PM
Mnay great drummers...these threads are almost pointless in that respect.

Just off he top o me head:

Alan White
Neil Peart
Bun E. Carlos



Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: pdm on March 24, 2009, 01:12:49 PM

 One person mentioned that Keith Moon's "timing stunk", this is laughable at best. 

 
:huh...LOL.... His timing was spot on. Keith Moon was an incredible.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: ODBAL on March 24, 2009, 01:29:06 PM
:huh...LOL.... His timing was spot on. Keith Moon was an incredible.

Which one?
(http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q461/kevlq/incredibles.jpg)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 24, 2009, 03:53:29 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl

ODBAL youre too funny.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: TheZohan on March 24, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
Lars Ulrich from Metallica
Neil Pert
Robert Sweet of Stryper
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 24, 2009, 04:09:05 PM
Lars Ulrich from Metallica
Neil Pert
Robert Sweet of Stryper

Whoa timeout!! Did you say Lars from Metallica??? He has struggled way too much with timing. Hes a good drummer, as he manages to find a matching beat to the music, but really- have you seen any of his live performances? I think youd have a differing opinion afterwards...
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: TheZohan on March 24, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
i think hes really good.. neil and lars are probably the best double bass drummers which i think makes them stand out more
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 24, 2009, 04:22:11 PM
Neil doesn't use the double bass drum, the other is for show.  I've yet to hear him use one since he joined Rush.   Without Max Roach as a springboard, Neil never would have been where he is today.   Even parts of his drum solo are nods to Max. 

Lars is an ego-maniac (like the rest in that band) that is far from good, FAR. 

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: bizz on March 24, 2009, 04:31:32 PM
All you Moon fanboys calm down :rofl I never said he had bad timing, I said he was not a great time keeper. What I meant was he was very loose with his playing. When he would play alot of those big fills his tempo would start jumping all over the place and Entwistle would pull him back.  Not a big deal, a lot of drummers do it including myself. My point was the great ones dont have that problem.

Ohh and Lars Sucks
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Plazus on March 24, 2009, 04:48:02 PM
Neil doesn't use the double bass drum, the other is for show.  I've yet to hear him use one since he joined Rush.   Without Max Roach as a springboard, Neil never would have been where he is today.   Even parts of his drum solo are nods to Max. 

Lars is an ego-maniac (like the rest in that band) that is far from good, FAR. 



Masherbrum, on the beginning of the thread, click on the youtube link that which I provided. Neil Peart uses a LOT of double bass throughout the second half of his performance.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: ODBAL on March 24, 2009, 04:56:59 PM
Masherbrum, on the beginning of the thread, click on the youtube link that which I provided. Neil Peart uses a LOT of double bass throughout the second half of his performance.

He was right about Lars sucking though right?
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 24, 2009, 05:11:34 PM
Masherbrum, on the beginning of the thread, click on the youtube link that which I provided. Neil Peart uses a LOT of double bass throughout the second half of his performance.

He does not use a double bass.   
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 24, 2009, 05:12:16 PM
He was right about Lars sucking though right?

Yes.   He wouldn't make the Top 40 on a list by anyone who has gone behind a kit.   
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: pdm on March 24, 2009, 05:45:25 PM
Which one?
(http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q461/kevlq/incredibles.jpg)
:lol...


 :salute
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: ODBAL on March 24, 2009, 05:48:41 PM
:lol...


 :salute


 :salute  to another fan of Space Ace.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: SuBWaYCH on March 24, 2009, 06:11:35 PM
Best double bass drummer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfLkrDXdn8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfLkrDXdn8)

The chorus takes some stamina.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: xNOVAx on March 24, 2009, 07:03:10 PM
i think hes really good.. neil and lars are probably the best double bass drummers which i think makes them stand out more

Lars is boring as hell..

There are some WAY better double bass players out there
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Anodizer on March 24, 2009, 08:02:23 PM
Thomas Pridgen from The Mars Volta. The dude is just sick :rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjrSihEI5CI



Not sure of band member's names here, but a few from The Mars Volta were in At the Drive-Inn as well..
Both are great bands! :rock
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Anodizer on March 24, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
Lars is boring as hell..

There are some WAY better double bass players out there

Man, I just don't see the fascination with double bass period.  In my opinion, it doesn't do much for the music..  Granted, there is some stuff out there that
really just wouldn't sound right without.....Slayer or even tOOL for instance....But I think in a majority of cases, it's been over used...
It's just my opinion, but I'm not entirely a fan of double base..  Sure, there are loads of things you can do, but I've always been a single kick hi-hat type of guy..
Most guys who use double bass(with the except of guys like Dave Lombardo and Danny Carey) always got there damn feet on the bass peddles and almost
NEVER touch the hi-hat..  Or what I find amusing are guys like Nick Mason for Pink Floyd who has two bass drums just for show..  Listen to his live performances
or even studio recordings and you will never hear any double bass technique at all...  For that matter, listen to Pulse and you'll see he uses practically the
same fill in every song...  Has great timing though and that's what is key for that type of music.. 

Everyone knows Nicko McBrain plays with one peddle..  I've heard people say he used a double kick peddle on songs like The Wicker Man, The Ghost of the Navigator the live
version he plays of The Phantom of the opera..  He does stuff with one peddle that a lot of guys can't even do with 2 peddles...  Double Bass...... Meh...



j/k  :)
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Gooss on March 25, 2009, 12:02:18 AM
Buddy Rich.

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Dimebag on March 25, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
my vote   :rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgMMwVPXvr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXP99qXUQEQ&feature=related



dime  :salute
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Hajo on March 25, 2009, 06:44:50 PM
For those of you that know of the Funk Brothers.  The remaining Drummer for the Funk Bros. Uriel Jones passed away Tuesday.

If you wish to hear a sample of his work the old MoTown tune Shotgun by Junior Walker is one of his best....among many.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: morfiend on March 25, 2009, 06:56:37 PM
For those of you that know of the Funk Brothers.  The remaining Drummer for the Funk Bros. Uriel Jones passed away Tuesday.

If you wish to hear a sample of his work the old MoTown tune Shotgun by Junior Walker is one of his best....among many.


 a sad loss.

bruford
palmer
baker
pert
rich
appiece/carman
moon/a ballerina at the kit.
copeland

in no particular order appice and rich being the only 1's named I havent seen.

 Saw Neil play at my high school,they were the openers for a cover band..... :rofl
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 25, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
For those of you that know of the Funk Brothers.  The remaining Drummer for the Funk Bros. Uriel Jones passed away Tuesday.

If you wish to hear a sample of his work the old MoTown tune Shotgun by Junior Walker is one of his best....among many.

He is one of the hardest hitting drummers I have ever heard on record.   He bests Stewart Copeland in that aspect and he is known for breaking snare heads in Concert.   But Uriel, is a saddened loss.

Haj, you and I should've tried to work out a way to go to that concert last.   7 rows from them.    :(

Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Hajo on March 25, 2009, 07:11:49 PM
Karaya you were right.....we won't see them anymore.  Very few left.  And now no drummer.

A legend is slowly passing away that many have heard but do not recognize.

Many view them as just MoTown but they were Jazz Musicians first and always.

When they started at MoTown they considered it moonlighting.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: grizz441 on March 25, 2009, 07:39:22 PM
Danny Carey
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 26, 2009, 07:00:27 AM
Add Art Blakely to the list.   
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: bizz on March 26, 2009, 10:30:04 AM
Louis Bellson also. He actually just died a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: RoGenT on March 26, 2009, 02:38:27 PM
I was hoping to go through all the pages without seeing Lars Urich mentioned but I was dissapointed lol.

Lars is a decent drummer, I give him that much. However, throughout the years, I have lost ALOT of respect for not only him, but the whole band all together. Lars is decent but he is NOT the best drummer ever.



Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: TheZohan on March 26, 2009, 04:51:30 PM
i honestly dont like anything past the black album they (metallica) has done .. it was decent.. but since that album they have gone downhill IMHO. but his older stuff i thought was really good.. ride the lightning is like one of the best selling albums of all time ranked #37 in 2008 (released in 84)  and x5 platinum
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Masherbrum on March 26, 2009, 05:20:48 PM
The only CD of Metallica's that I can listen to anymore is Kill Em All and it is their best.   The rest are played out and worn out.   
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: narsus on March 26, 2009, 05:32:57 PM
Rick Allen...well just because of what he went through.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: SlapShot on March 26, 2009, 05:50:13 PM
Buddy Rich ... the godfather of drums ... he made it "popular" to be a drummer. Many who have posted here are probably too young to have seen the Master play.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: sluggish on March 26, 2009, 08:20:12 PM
This is just getting silly now.
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Jebus on March 27, 2009, 12:06:05 PM
People forgot a couple

Carter Beauford- Dave Matthews Band    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOatIrazULw&feature=related


Danny Carey- TOOL     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVbFrl9wLBA&feature=related


Tim "herb" alexander -primus/ Blue Man Group/ Perfect Circle   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97YmWx5e96k&feature=related  (probably my favorite)

But of course John Bonham and Neil Peart, are awesome as well.



Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Tr1gg22 on March 27, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
Corky Thatcher  :noid
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: xNOVAx on March 27, 2009, 03:36:52 PM
People forgot a couple

Carter Beauford- Dave Matthews Band    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOatIrazULw&feature=related


Danny Carey- TOOL     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVbFrl9wLBA&feature=related


Tim "herb" alexander -primus/ Blue Man Group/ Perfect Circle   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97YmWx5e96k&feature=related  (probably my favorite)

But of course John Bonham and Neil Peart, are awesome as well.





Looks pretty similar to my list..  :aok

The blueman group drummer IS amazing.. Quite unknown but man he jams for sure.. I actually got to see them live on broadway before they got big and the show was simply mind-blowing..
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: TheZohan on March 27, 2009, 05:29:53 PM
which blueman group there one in orlando at universal and one in las vegas and i think 2-3 other places.. not the same guy
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: xNOVAx on March 27, 2009, 06:32:52 PM
which blueman group there one in orlando at universal and one in las vegas and i think 2-3 other places.. not the same guy

Well it was the original guy in New York whoever that was.. I saw them in a small ~250 person theater in 98' I believe..
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: Enker on March 27, 2009, 09:10:15 PM
Bah!...Easy one



(http://www.stanford.edu/group/blocklab/Muppets/animal%20Drums.jpg)
Quoted for truth. +1 :aok
Title: Re: Best drummer in the world
Post by: B17Skull12 on March 28, 2009, 12:11:37 PM
Top 3 and they go in this order
Thomas Pridgen- The man, if wanna call him that, is an unstoppable machine with the bass pedal and ghost notes.
Neil Peart
Terry Bozzio (spelling?)-who the hell has ever heard of a dichromatic kit?