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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Beefcake on March 23, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
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It's been awhile since we've had anything to gnaw on so how about throwing us a bone? Purty please?
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Don't think Hitech swings that way "beefcake" :confused:
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Don't think Hitech swings that way "beefcake" :confused:
I wouldn't presume to know which way HT swings ;)
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Guys, come join us in the Tunisia scenario (an Aces High special event).
The Luftwaffe needs Bf 109G-2 pilots and Ju 88 pilots.
The first battle is March 28th -- only five days away.
If interested, a link to registration is here:
http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario-2.html
(http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/200903_Tunisia/rules_pics/TunisiaBanner2.jpg)
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You know cause you pay $15 everymonth. Something has to be productive.
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You know cause you pay $15 everymonth. Something has to be productive.
Updates. Support. Personal service.
I may disagree with some of their more Puritan policies and be a slightly vocal critic of some concepts- but you pay for more than just the game.
Voice your opinion, don't be a total tool.
There's a place for that, you don't have to look far to find it...
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It is the best I could do...
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/38091881_ce789a6048.jpg?v=0)
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It is the best I could do...
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/38091881_ce789a6048.jpg?v=0)
If you got paid for worthless posts, you'd be a millionaire.
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It's been awhile since we've had anything to gnaw on so how about throwing us a bone? Purty please?
What Buttcake said :cool:
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If you got paid for worthless posts, you'd be a millionaire.
Now that is a thought... :aok
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beefcake wants the bone.. :rofl
Honestly though, ive been fighting the urge to make a similar thread, I wanna see more of the sexy.
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HTC's 10 year anniversary is coming up... April 10th I think HT said...
:noid
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Here's something to go with your bone:
(http://www.clubheinz.com/_images/76-oz.jpg)
wrongway
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(http://content.ytmnd.com/content/5/d/e/5def4c6cee2ae39b98589e2637e73413.jpg)
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He has a valid question. The two week fun aside...
It has been many months since an update with new planes, when can we expect some new planes HTC?
Thanks,
Slade :salute
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If you are looking for something new, there is a new scenario coming up this weekend. All are welcome to come check it out! :aok
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This is the only game I've ever heard of, or at least that I've paid for...that gets away with not putting out monthly updates of some sort.
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Its ok sincraft...its ok
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He has a valid question. The two week fun aside...
It has been many months since an update with new planes, when can we expect some new planes HTC?
Thanks,
Slade :salute
I'de be happy with some new terrain! But a new plane would be peachy keen... ;)
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HTC's 10 year anniversary is coming up... April 10th I think HT said...
:noid
wow April tenth? Thats my birthday, kind funny.
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I really don't recall anyone at HTC making any promises of new planes, or an update schedule. As a monthly subscriber, I do not really see the point of making "demands" for new content.
The "bones" are any new content that is developed when it is developed. New content is appreciated and enjoyed, by most. It's not a requirement to keep me subscribed.
Aren't we a bunch of spoiled children?
wrongway
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I really don't recall anyone at HTC making any promises of new planes, or an update schedule. As a monthly subscriber, I do not really see the point of making "demands" for new content.
The "bones" are any new content that is developed when it is developed. New content is appreciated and enjoyed, by most. It's not a requirement to keep me subscribed.
Aren't we a bunch of spoiled children?
wrongway
I more than 90% agree with you, but I too feel at least a monthly "update" of some sort would be nice, be it a development blog, or a new screenshot.. pretty much anything.. just to keep the saliva dripping.
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April 12th would be neat.
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I more than 90% agree with you, but I too feel at least a monthly "update" of some sort would be nice, be it a development blog, or a new screenshot.. pretty much anything.. just to keep the saliva dripping.
I agree with you. :aok It would be nice. But I don't feel it is a requirement nor do I feel in any way entitled to an update to stay a subscriber. I know what I'm paying for.
I'm just a bit put off by those who feel they are "owed" something. Some sort of entitlement that was never inferred nor promised, just assumed.
Gimme, gimme, gimme. Now, now, now is just the wrong attitude to have, I think.
wrongway
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Yea, the "im paying $15 to know" line of thinking is getting old..
$15 bucks gets you in the arenas, not in the cubicals..
but the more I think of it, how cool would it be if every month HT, Pyro.. or anyone from the team posted a little.. just a paragraph or so nothing crazy, nothing that would take more than 15 minutes of time .. post/blog/whatever about progress towards the next update, or even about their thoughs about where the game is going in general.... would make for good reading and discussion. Most people are going to keep playing regardless of weather the update is next week aor next quarter.. but its never a bad thing to get a little snippet here and there just to keep the interest peaked.
And besides, it would give us something to talk about besides what is or is not a HO, and who is the worst squeaker.
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Having a periodic update on the forums would be a nice treat, attaching us Plebians to the Patricians. Now that the combat tour is dead there must be ideas the Brass are kicking around regarding the MA's. While we did get a peek at some terrain, there was nothing more since. Word on the street seems to be that the people are interested in some updates, if only info towards the next idea that is hatching. I would bet that a post from AH staff about this said topic would see a huge number of views, creating a vortex of sub-posts and spin-off writings. This is a great game, why not add the cherry on top...
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Speaking of cherries (sorry, couldn't resist), have you guys who are asking for these things ever tried flying in a scenario?
I find that (despite my feeble attempts at promotion) a lot of people in Aces High don't know about them, and a majority of Aces High pilots have never tried flying in one. Yet scenarios are an additional and different realm to explore if you haven't done so yet.
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I'm so bored with this game. I wish HTC would allow us to have some sort of large scaled player made event to make things fun again. Maybe even allow us use of a private arena or something...man wouldn't that be cool. *sighs* I can dream can't I?
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I'm so bored with this game. I wish HTC would allow us to have some sort of large scaled player made event to make things fun again. Maybe even allow us use of a private arena or something...man wouldn't that be cool. *sighs* I can dream can't I?
Have you been reading Brookes posts?Speaking of cherries (sorry, couldn't resist), have you guys who are asking for these things ever tried flying in a scenario?
I find that (despite my feeble attempts at promotion) a lot of people in Aces High don't know about them, and a majority of Aces High pilots have never tried flying in one. Yet scenarios are an additional and different realm to explore if you haven't done so yet.
I mean honestly hes spamming this board worse then ME ROFL, I really hope your post was sarcastic Beefcake
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If you got paid for worthless posts, you'd be a millionaire.
This isnt a worthless post :huh
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post/blog/whatever about progress towards the next update, or even about their thoughts about where the game is going in general
It would be win-win. HTC would get less calls and posts on the topic. They would not have to over commit - just routine FYI on new feature efforts at a high level. Users would get a better sense of direction and expectations. Could help with customer retention too.
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What a great idea! :aok
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The problem is things change in game development. Example, they say they are working on adding plan XXX to the game. As they start developing the programing for it they find they don't have enough information to get the flight model to work right. While digging for info of course the art department is moving right along and posting a picture or two to wet some appetites, Now all the 2 week jokes are flying, and people are whining about "you promised plane XXX" waaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! I don't blame them for keeping things quite with all the cry babies we have around here.
The public is to "needy" these days. Time to grow up and enjoy/work with what you have. No updates or enhancements were ever "promised" with your subscription. Be happy with what you have. That way when/if an update comes along it will be a treat!
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It would be win-win. HTC would get less calls and posts on the topic. They would not have to over commit - just routine FYI on new feature efforts at a high level. Users would get a better sense of direction and expectations. Could help with customer retention too.
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What a great idea! :aok
Saying anything in a blog is enough of a commitment for complaints. It's happened for pretty much every other game.
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Have you been reading Brookes posts? I mean honestly hes spamming this board worse then ME ROFL, I really hope your post was sarcastic Beefcake
Take a closer look at Beefcakes signature, avatar, and throw a [/sarcasm] tag at the end and you'll have a little lightbulb pop on over your head. At least I hope you will.
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Fugitive,
As a programmer I respectfully disagree.
I mentioned that they could provide high level information thus they would not have to over commit.
Also, a good developer does not tend to advertise specifications that have not been unit and environment tested. It is VERY predictable what can be implemented when programs are properly tested.
HTC software tends to be very reliable I have found so that tells me they have a thorough testing environment (or they are REALLY lucky).
Slade :salute
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Check my sig to see what's coming next! :D
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Fugitive,
As a programmer I respectfully disagree.
I mentioned that they could provide high level information thus they would not have to over commit.
Also, a good developer does not tend to advertise specifications that have not been unit and environment tested. It is VERY predictable what can be implemented when programs are properly tested.
HTC software tends to be very reliable I have found so that tells me they have a thorough testing environment (or they are REALLY lucky).
Slade :salute
By the time they have it in that condition, they are rolling it out so no need to "throw a bone".
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the whole "if they told us anything, we would just complain" idea is laughable.
you cant honestly think that everything should be kept a secret till the last second, to avoid complaints. Doing so would cause an equal number if not more complaints.
for example, this next update.. how would it be bad for every month or so, just to get a new screen shot posted, or a few words regarding the changes improvements?
all they have to do is slap on the good ole "subject to change" sticker and they are good to go.
actually, what is being suggested isn't even a change to what is already being done, so saying its a bad idea is kinda silly, they are doing it already.. all that's being asked for is instead of 1 or 2 big information posts every few months.. post a screen shot or 2, or a few words once a month.. a constant trickle instead of a few isolated big splashes if you will.
its a moot point anyway, people complain regardless, its just a matter of how much speculation goes into the complaint.
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I think they just like to watch everyone squirm.
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the whole "if they told us anything, we would just complain" idea is laughable.
its a moot point anyway, people complain regardless, its just a matter of how much speculation goes into the complaint.
People complain when they get new content. If there is going to be whining anyway, why go through with any extra effort of putting out an "in the works" announcement.
I think when they have something definite, they let everyone know. They know about the "two weeks" joke better than anyone else I bet.
wrongway
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Well this is what your asking for.............
We started on a new terrain system
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
and then two weeks later...........
Well, we weren't happy with a couple of the road layouts so we have moved a few things around, also the code has been cleaned up.
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
and then two weeks later.....
We're pretty happy with the terrain now. A few of the forseted areas were a bit "sparse" so we loaded them up a bit, this did necessitate a rewrite on a portion of the code, but after testing it looks like its cleaned up nicely and the bugs are all cleaned out.
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
I'm thinking about a month or so of updates would pass much like that.
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I'm thinking about a month or so of updates would pass much like that.
How long have you been a programmer?
Have you ever programmed in an enterprise environment?
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Have you been reading Brookes posts? I mean honestly hes spamming this board worse then ME ROFL, ...
But his posts contribute something to the community and ultimately, the game. That should be the standard for all posts.
Regards,
Hammer
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April 12th would be neat.
Maybe show the "progress" on the 10th of a few planes, then release on the 12th?
Also don't forget april fools' day.
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How long have you been a programmer?
Have you ever programmed in an enterprise environment?
No I haven't but if I had the time I'd search the boards for where Pyro I believe said that this is how an update blog would look. There are weeks after weeks where they have nothing to take a screen shot of but have changed huge sections of the game in the coding. What they said was that if they did a blog it would have very little interesting information as most of it is code work. They would...as they do now... post a picture when they have one of something they update.
HTC is a very small company, a couple of artists, and couple of code writers, and a few administrators. All work is done in house. Big name software companys can post updates weekly because in those 7 days they have 100 people working 40 hours each to drive that. HTC may have 5 people doing the same work and to cover that same 4000 hours of work takes 20 weeks.
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post a picture when they have one of something they update
Is this the only way they can inform us of cool things they are working on?
BTW, low level updates (changes at the sub-routine or individual class level) are what you described with your snapshots. We are not asking for this at all. Again: we are not asking for low level updates.
HTC is a very small company, a couple of artists, and couple of code writers, and a few administrators. All work is done in house. Big name software companys can post updates weekly because in those 7 days they have 100 people working 40 hours each to drive that. HTC may have 5 people doing the same work and to cover that same 4000 hours of work takes 20 weeks.
You seem to know a lot about software engineering. So you are saying the number of programmers has a direct relationship on their ability to perform SCM (Software Configuration Management) to the degree that they cannot spend 5 minutes a month to routinely give us a preview of what they are working on at a high level?
Example: We have begun working on say on a Ki-100 this month. We do not need to know their test cases and SCM and QC testing practices for the K-i100. Because they can duplicate success (they have created planes before) they know how to do it accurately and thus them not being able to produce the KI-100 in this example would not be in doubt. They still have the flexibility to not do it too for business reasons. An investor gave them $10k to produce an IAR-80 first for example.
To put it another way. Are you saying they do not use standard industry programming practices (Unit Test->Environment Test->Staging->Acceptance Test phase) because of the number of resources they have, so they cannot spend a few minutes providing a high level update?
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I'd rather they not waste the time on telling us what they are working on until it's ready. That way it gets here all the faster :D
Seriously though, it's their company. They can run it however they want.
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notice they say nothing
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Another regurgitated subject that has been beaten to death 1000 times. This message board's nickname shouldn't be general discussion. It should be "Groundhog Day". You guys would be a lot happier if you just played the game that's out, instead of wishing to play something that's not out. Even when new content does come out, you'll just complain about how they implemented it. I know why HTC doesn't post updates all the time. Its because they cant please anyone. No matter what they say, someone is going to be crying about either how their system cant handle it, or "why didn't they put in this plane or that plane", or "wheres our nukes". Just play and be happy. If you are not happy with the current version of the game, a slightly modified new version isn't going to magically make everything better.
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notice they say nothing
And your point is...?
I believe they have stated their position by continuing to state nothing at all.
I really think this point of action is better than "we're doing....." and then nothing comes of it. Even if they did announce plans in advance, people would still be too impatient to wait for said plans to come to fruition.
As it is, people are too impatient to enjoy what they have and wait patiently for what may be coming in the future. At the very least, without being in the loop, you know something is coming eventually.
wrongway
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Is this the only way they can inform us of cool things they are working on?
BTW, low level updates (changes at the sub-routine or individual class level) are what you described with your snapshots. We are not asking for this at all. Again: we are not asking for low level updates.
You seem to know a lot about software engineering. So you are saying the number of programmers has a direct relationship on their ability to perform SCM (Software Configuration Management) to the degree that they cannot spend 5 minutes a month to routinely give us a preview of what they are working on at a high level?
Example: We have begun working on say on a Ki-100 this month. We do not need to know their test cases and SCM and QC testing practices for the K-i100. Because they can duplicate success (they have created planes before) they know how to do it accurately and thus them not being able to produce the KI-100 in this example would not be in doubt. They still have the flexibility to not do it too for business reasons. An investor gave them $10k to produce an IAR-80 first for example.
To put it another way. Are you saying they do not use standard industry programming practices (Unit Test->Environment Test->Staging->Acceptance Test phase) because of the number of resources they have, so they cannot spend a few minutes providing a high level update?
What he is saying is they are working on the game. Most would rather them work on the game.
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Im think that the longer the updates take ..........Its because were getting more stuff.... or the stuff we are getting is a little harder to make happen. They are trying to please a lot of people with differant computer setups this time around.
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Is this the only way they can inform us of cool things they are working on?
BTW, low level updates (changes at the sub-routine or individual class level) are what you described with your snapshots. We are not asking for this at all. Again: we are not asking for low level updates.
You seem to know a lot about software engineering. So you are saying the number of programmers has a direct relationship on their ability to perform SCM (Software Configuration Management) to the degree that they cannot spend 5 minutes a month to routinely give us a preview of what they are working on at a high level?
But thats the point, there is nothing to report! They are working on getting everything together, run their test routines and such. Once it becomes something more substantial a "higher level" then we get info like the terrain and water effects.
Example: We have begun working on say on a Ki-100 this month. We do not need to know their test cases and SCM and QC testing practices for the K-i100. Because they can duplicate success (they have created planes before) they know how to do it accurately and thus them not being able to produce the KI-100 in this example would not be in doubt. They still have the flexibility to not do it too for business reasons. An investor gave them $10k to produce an IAR-80 first for example
Then after an announcement like this we have a hundred people crying because we don't have it yet/when are we getting it/ I want it now, rumors flying around about this load out perk charges/rates and so on. It takes a couple of months to research and put together a new plane or vehicle...just guessing... but with the small crew of experts working hard on it they still won't generate much information to report week to week.
To put it another way. Are you saying they do not use standard industry programming practices (Unit Test->Environment Test->Staging->Acceptance Test phase) because of the number of resources they have, so they cannot spend a few minutes providing a high level update?
I'm sure they understand how to do everyone of the stages they believe are necessary to get to an end product, after all they have been doing it for almost 10 years. The point is they have nothing to report, but when they do, they report it. For the big companies time is condensed due to haveing many many more people working on a single project. So after a week of 100 people working they have made large strides in the project, wheres 5 people while still being great workers will NEVER accomplish the same amount of work. So while Mega corp built and tested the Ki-100 this week and puts out a report on the capabilities with in the game engine as well as art work showing the details of rivet patterns , HTC finished its research into the flight model on the Ki-100 this week and reports they have compiled data. See the difference, nothing to report.
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What he is saying is...
You can stick words that I did not say in my mouth but they are still untrue.
I am saying argue for your limitations and they are yours.
If you believe they cannot give us high level routine updates then you are stuck in your belief. You can use your imagination to defend your belief but the fact remains the same.
Yes it is their call.
The fact is that they can do this and a significant number of customers have asked for it. This is not debatable. You have to be in denial or delusional not to see this (which some may be).
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To HiTech and Company,
If possible in your busy production schedule, a few words or a picture about something coming to us soon would be appreciated. I hope all is going as expected on your end. As for myself and my squad, we are enjoying your product every day. Our wives know we aren't in bars drinking and driving which is possibly one of the best aspects of your product. It's a strange image, but your product is probably contributing to lives saved from drinking and driving fatalities nationwide.
Thank you for all the current fun, and for myself, a very happy repeat customer. :aok
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If you got paid for worthless posts, you'd be a millionaire.
:rolleyes:
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You can stick words that I did not say in my mouth but they are still untrue.
I am saying argue for your limitations and they are yours.
If you believe they cannot give us high level routine updates then you are stuck in your belief. You can use your imagination to defend your belief but the fact remains the same.
Yes it is their call.
The fact is that they can do this and a significant number of customers have asked for it. This is not debatable. You have to be in denial or delusional not to see this (which some may be).
They did give out information, terrain updates, as well as water updates. At this point that is all they have ready and are willing to release. What part of that don't you understand? :rolleyes:
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But he's a pro, so HTC should do things his way. I personally don't want to see a WIP. I want to know when it's done or nearly done. It kills the novelty when you already know the new feature from one month+ of blog news.
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But he's a pro, so HTC should do things his way. I personally don't want to see a WIP. I want to know when it's done or nearly done. It kills the novelty when you already know the new feature from one month+ of blog news.
+1
wrongway
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HTC is lucky to have so many loyal customers who defend their business on any point that could possibly be brought up. :devil
They did give out information, terrain updates, as well as water updates. At this point that is all they have ready and are willing to release. What part of that don't you understand? :rolleyes:
Just to play devil's advocate, Slade explicitly said that simple pics posted at the HTC website are not a "high level update," whatever that would be. :lol
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If you get a bone and have it for more than 4 hours seek immediate medical attention. :O
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If you get a bone and have it for more than 4 hours seek immediate medical attention. :O
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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But he's a pro, so HTC should do things his way. I personally don't want to see a WIP.
Naa. I don't claim to know anything. In fact I KNOW I don't know anything.
Lets stick to the facts.
1. Have there been customer requests for a routine (non sporadic) updates on what they are working on? Yes
2. Can HTC do this in a way that does not burden them? Yes
Will they? No one can answer this.
I wanted to state the request on this in a factual way so we all could engage in a dialog poking at it with our pointy little minds. Curious to see what it exposes both in people and practices. When presented with facts some run to "beliefs" that cannot be substantiated. Some deny the facts. Some see what is there rather than their projection or not - what do I know.
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Naa. I don't claim to know anything. In fact I KNOW I don't know anything.
Lets stick to the facts.
1. Have there been customer requests for a routine (non sporadic) updates on what they are working on? Yes
Yes and there have also been requests for the B29, pilots screams when on fire, radio station that play music, tinted windows, the double mustang, the Sabre jet, cannons for non cannon planes as a" field mod", no fighter towns, the bombers, no base capture, no strats, more strats and on and on and on. There have been many requests, some quit ridiculous, but just because it was requested doesn't mean it MUST BE DONE.
2. Can HTC do this in a way that does not burden them? Yes
Maybe, not yes. You have no idea of there schedules, work loads, business plan. From the number of response I've seen from HT of the years (pre spellcheck :D ) I get the impression that he doesn't like watermelon chat. To me he seems to be all business, and that business is writing code, not doing PR work. He also worked on Warbirds before he moved on to Aces High. Maybe he's a bit "gun shy" about giving out information due to how things evolved over there, who knows. I do know that when they are ready they give out information, and not before.
Will they? No one can answer this.
This is the easiest one to answer !!! YES ! they will, WHEN THEY ARE READY !
Yes people have asked for update information..... many times... I too think it would be kinda cool to be "in the loop", but when it all comes down to it, it really is none of OUR business, and all about HT's business.
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Slade you wouldn't have any argument at all if you'd been around back when we had 2 or 3 times as many updates to the game.
"2. Can HTC do this in a way that does not burden them? Yes"
You say this after saying that you don't claim to know anything.
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Moot, Fugitive,
Good observations sirs. :aok
2. Can HTC do this in a way that does not burden them? Yes
You say this after saying that you don't claim to know anything.
True
Can HTC spend 5 minutes every month to give us an update?
Though it seems highly probable, we have to answer this as: It is unkown.
I stand corrected (once again). :salute
They are under no contractual obligation to keep us informed that I am aware of. To suggest that they should do this or defend that they don't are, pardon the pun, moot.
So the only fact that is provable it seems is that though customers have asked for this it is not occurring (routinely\monthly).
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Can HTC spend 5 minutes every month to give us an update?
I'd rather they spend the 5 minutes getting us the update out that much faster :P
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This entire thread seems like much ado about nothing to me...
The way I see it, the Original Poster simply asked for HTC to give us a hint or update or whatever you'd like to call it. He asked without whining. Without demanding some right as a paying customer be met. Heck, he even said purty please!
So, HTC can either do as requested and toss us the proverbial bone... Or not. Their choice. No amount of gnashing of teeth in this thread will change that simple fact of life.
The only beef with the OP that I really see, is that this thread probably belongs in the Wishlist Section, because that's really what this is...
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Can HTC spend 5 minutes every month to give us an update?[/qutoe]
The answer is Yeswe can, but the update would be very boring.
This month, continued terrain infrastructure redesign that we showed before.
Next would come many questions about what that redesign is, and none can be answered because it is being DESIGNED.
HiTech
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I would call that a bone Hitech Sir.
:salute
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Can HTC spend 5 minutes every month to give us an update?
The answer is Yeswe can, but the update would be very boring.
This month, continued terrain infrastructure redesign that we showed before.
Next would come many questions about what that redesign is, and none can be answered because it is being DESIGNED.
HiTech
So, Fugitive's post was pretty accurate? :lol
Well this is what your asking for.............
We started on a new terrain system
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
and then two weeks later...........
Well, we weren't happy with a couple of the road layouts so we have moved a few things around, also the code has been cleaned up.
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
and then two weeks later.....
We're pretty happy with the terrain now. A few of the forseted areas were a bit "sparse" so we loaded them up a bit, this did necessitate a rewrite on a portion of the code, but after testing it looks like its cleaned up nicely and the bugs are all cleaned out.
(http://www2.hitechcreations.com/screenshots/terrain/tertest.jpg)
I'm thinking about a month or so of updates would pass much like that.
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The answer is Yeswe can, but the update would be very boring.
This month, continued terrain infrastructure redesign that we showed before.
Next would come many questions about what that redesign is, and none can be answered because it is being DESIGNED.
HiTech
So, Fugitive's post was pretty accurate? :lol
Well its good to see all those cameras and microphones hidden over there are not going to waste ! :devil
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Also, they seem to follow Valve time (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time)
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Can HTC spend 5 minutes every month to give us an update?[/qutoe]
The answer is Yeswe can, but the update would be very boring.
This month, continued terrain infrastructure redesign that we showed before.
Next would come many questions about what that redesign is, and none can be answered because it is being DESIGNED.
HiTech
I would call that a bone Hitech Sir.
:salute
I would agree, I asked and I received. :aok
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I know What Airplane is coming next.
Buffalo Brewster.
Pyro has a thread somewhere asking for info On it. He And some of his Coworkers must be working on it.
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when you are in the tower in the MA's look on the design on the clock...See that Airplane? What is it?
Buffalo Brewster
:noid :aok
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I know What Airplane is coming next.
Buffalo Brewster.
Pyro has a thread somewhere asking for info On it. He And some of his Coworkers must be working on it.
AND
when you are in the tower in the MA's look on the design on the clock...See that Airplane? What is it?
Buffalo Brewster
:noid :aok
That's been there for years
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Wouldn't matter anyway, the maps are player made.
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That's been there for years
I believe that's Nhawk's symbol he puts in all of the Terrains he makes.
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The problem is things change in game development. Example, they say they are working on adding plan XXX to the game. As they start developing the programing for it they find they don't have enough information to get the flight model to work right. While digging for info of course the art department is moving right along and posting a picture or two to wet some appetites, Now all the 2 week jokes are flying, and people are whining about "you promised plane XXX" waaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! I don't blame them for keeping things quite with all the cry babies we have around here.
The public is to "needy" these days. Time to grow up and enjoy/work with what you have. No updates or enhancements were ever "promised" with your subscription. Be happy with what you have. That way when/if an update comes along it will be a treat!
But the thing is its 15$ of your money that you are putting into enjoying a product that you paid for; as for the whining thats minuscule to amount of positive feedback that HTC could receive from its subscribers such as what their subscribers want and think is a good idea or a bad one, its like a magazine you get one issue a month and when you go 6 months without a new one the old ones get boring. HTC is business, regardless of how you see it, it is and giving what their subscribers want or at least an update now and then about the forwardness of the project would keep their subscribers interested and more involved into shaping this into something more special than it already is. And for those who think people are too greedy or needy, well heres news, thats the way the world is shaping and whether you like it or not its happening here too and sure the regulars will stay no matter what, but that percentage is growing smaller as the amount of new subscribers increases with greedy and needy people. Like I said its a business and HTC needs the go with the money in order to stay afloat and monthly updates is a great way into seeing what their subscribers (Paycheck signers) want to see in the product that they pay for monthly.
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monthly updates is a great way into seeing what their subscribers (Paycheck signers) want
I would like to see you prove this, because in my experience, it is almost always the opposite. Regular updates do nothing, putting out news when there is news to put out is a good thing.
HiTech
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But the thing is its 15$ of your money that you are putting into enjoying a product that you paid for; as for the whining thats minuscule to amount of positive feedback that HTC could receive from its subscribers such as what their subscribers want and think is a good idea or a bad one, its like a magazine you get one issue a month and when you go 6 months without a new one the old ones get boring. HTC is business, regardless of how you see it, it is and giving what their subscribers want or at least an update now and then about the forwardness of the project would keep their subscribers interested and more involved into shaping this into something more special than it already is. And for those who think people are too greedy or needy, well heres news, thats the way the world is shaping and whether you like it or not its happening here too and sure the regulars will stay no matter what, but that percentage is growing smaller as the amount of new subscribers increases with greedy and needy people. Like I said its a business and HTC needs the go with the money in order to stay afloat and monthly updates is a great way into seeing what their subscribers (Paycheck signers) want to see in the product that they pay for monthly.
You're paying $15 a month to play a game, not for future updated. That's like saying you bought a new car, and are paying for it for the next three years, for the "upgrades" you are expecting to get from the manufacturer with next years model. People who subscribe and are staying only in anticipation of future updates are not the type of people who are going to be around for the long run anyhow. They are never going to be satisfied with what comes out and will eventually move along to "the next big thing."
No matter what you do, you are not going to be able to satisfy everyone all the time anyhow.
I would much rather wait patiently for whatever may come along than have a "bone" thrown that never comes to fruition. Any update itself is the bone.
wrongway
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But the thing is its 15$ of your money that you are putting into enjoying a product that you paid for; as for the whining thats minuscule to amount of positive feedback that HTC could receive from its subscribers such as what their subscribers want and think is a good idea or a bad one, its like a magazine you get one issue a month and when you go 6 months without a new one the old ones get boring. HTC is business, regardless of how you see it, it is and giving what their subscribers want or at least an update now and then about the forwardness of the project would keep their subscribers interested and more involved into shaping this into something more special than it already is. And for those who think people are too greedy or needy, well heres news, thats the way the world is shaping and whether you like it or not its happening here too and sure the regulars will stay no matter what, but that percentage is growing smaller as the amount of new subscribers increases with greedy and needy people. Like I said its a business and HTC needs the go with the money in order to stay afloat and monthly updates is a great way into seeing what their subscribers (Paycheck signers) want to see in the product that they pay for monthly.
That $15 a month buys you the privilege to log on to the HTC servers to play against other subscribers in an environment built and hosted by HTC, thats it. Seeing as they are still thriving after 10 years with a game that is not a main stream type of game, I'm thinking the business plan they are running on is a pretty good one.