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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Roundeye on March 30, 2009, 04:31:15 PM
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.....is served! :aok
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a4_1238367211 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a4_1238367211)
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lol
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what a dume ass
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^ Oh sweet sweet irony.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Took him off camera to work him over some more. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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The way that shop owner was cleaning up I don't think he intended on calling the police.... :rofl
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Strange how the "security camera" pans around like a hand-held. Doesn't seem very efficient to have someone holding it all the time.
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wrongway
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That was great! We needs this to happen more often. Looked like the guy was trying to assault/rob the woman, than DUDE showed up. Love the body slam! Sweet justice
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Strange how the "security camera" pans around like a hand-held. Doesn't seem very efficient to have someone holding it all the time.
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wrongway
if you pay attention, you'll notice its a handheld recording of something happening on a monitor...not from the actual security tape.
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:( That was sad. I hope he was alright. :pray
P.S. They shoulda stole his wallet.
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There's a point at about 2:09-2:10 where his head gets knocked all the way back.... I watched this part about 5 times....
Heh.... Also, right before the store dude comes in with that flying kick, idiot wannabeghettofabulous sweetheart bag is pulling up his pants....
Now, I don't know about you guys, but when I was a kid and had to do some throwing around, last thing I wanted was my pants hanging half-way
around my arse where I had to pull 'em up every 3-4 seconds.... lmao And the way he chokes the kid and takes him to the floor.. Priceless!
I'd give this kid the Darwin Award....
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Could he not get out of the store? Was wondering why he never left.
Way to go for the store owner.
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Could he not get out of the store? Was wondering why he never left.
Way to go for the store owner.
You dont think the level of force used was excessive? If it were a cop that gave the beating you'd all be chirping like tweetie birds.
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Could he not get out of the store? Was wondering why he never left.
Way to go for the store owner.
Nope security locked I'm sure. At the press of a button.
You dont think the level of force used was excessive? If it were a cop that gave the beating you'd all be chirping like tweetie birds.
Nope! Only the convicts their families and their next victims take offense to trash being treated like trash.
Victims like to think a place with a sign that says "no guns allowed" is safe. No it's not safe. Criminals are criminals because they do not live by the laws or rules set down for the masses. So if a place advertises that law abiding folks are unarmed, that is a fruitful target for any low life criminal wishing to practice his profession.
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Sure the force used was excessive. If society was more excessive more often with the justice system there would be a quarter of the crime. No way would I convict the shop owner of protecting his family and business. Police officers are held to a higher standard and rightfully so.
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Sure the force used was excessive. If society was more excessive more often with the justice system there would be a quarter of the crime. No way would I convict the shop owner of protecting his family and business. Police officers are held to a higher standard and rightfully so.
Rightfully so? According to whom? Or what?
So your saying the Law should be different for different groups of people? And that it shouldnt be applied equally? And that theres nothing wrong with the continued beating of a suspect, "thats right he hasnt been convicted of nothing", whos laying there helpless and unarmed, isnt wrong?
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And that theres nothing wrong with the continued beating of a suspect, "thats right he hasnt been convicted of nothing", whos laying there helpless and unarmed, isnt wrong?
That statement is so PC. Caught redhanded robbing a store on videotape.
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Sure the force used was excessive. If society was more excessive more often with the justice system there would be a quarter of the crime. No way would I convict the shop owner of protecting his family and business. Police officers are held to a higher standard and rightfully so.
Actually, if I may re-word that for you....
If society was more apt to dish out partial justice (a good beating like this looser got) before the cops actually got there, there would be less crime... How much?
That is debatable.. One thing for sure, any punk wanting to rob that store will think again....
I'm sure 9/10 of the time, the cops will tell the shop owner what to say if the guy who tried to rob him presses charges..
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Rightfully so? According to whom? Or what?
So your saying the Law should be different for different groups of people? And that it shouldnt be applied equally? And that theres nothing wrong with the continued beating of a suspect, "thats right he hasnt been convicted of nothing", whos laying there helpless and unarmed, isnt wrong?
A bat is a bat, a chicken is a chicken. When someone is seen doing what this kid did there is no question he did it. Some prefer to turn the other cheek. Hopefully it is their family who pays the price and not some innocent folks. That's right I said innocent folks meaning the one who turns the other cheek is not innocent, he/she is part of the problem.
The innocent till proven guilty can be saved for those not directly caught red handed.
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I had to watch this a few more times today.... Totally hilarious how he's got his hand back there like he's got a gun... Not a smart kid...
First thing I would've done is told him to drop the gun.... Obviously he has no gun to drop, but I wouldn't know that... So, my reaction would be to draw my weapon
and be sure I cease all his brain functions... Security camera shows him making the typical ghetto move of
faking like he's got a gun up his arse and ready to pull it out...
These guys need to be sterilized once they get to jail/prison...
No good can come of these people.......ever.....
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When that kid was knocking stuff over, he must have knocked open a can of "whoopass", cause he got it all over himself.
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When that kid was knocking stuff over, he must have knocked open a can of "whoopass", cause he got it all over himself.
lol
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You dont think the level of force used was excessive? If it were a cop that gave the beating you'd all be chirping like tweetie birds.
I would be cheering the cop on. I have no problem with somebody getting their bellybutton whipped when they deserve it.
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The innocent till proven guilty can be saved for those not directly caught red handed.
Boy...hahahaha, thats a mouthful. Every individual right you have crumbling under the weight of one sentence. I hear that the Jews and communists who were caught by the Nazis for starting the Reichstag fire back in the '30s were "caught red handed". No doubt the beatings administered were justice too. Want more? History is filled with them.
You see this is how it begins. It all starts with everybody meaning well and feeling all righteous. It begins with the exceptions made.
And no Anodizer. 9/10'th of the time we wont tell the shop owner what to say. Thats against the law too and why would we risk our jobs to protect some nitwit who decided his need for payback was more important then being lawful?
Yeah I just watched the entire thing. The last two kicks, after the store guy took off his jacket and before he dragged the offender out of the camera view?? These kicks were purely unlawful and couldnt be justified. This store owner would have bee arrested as well.
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Boy...hahahaha, thats a mouthful. Every individual right you have crumbling under the weight of one sentence. I hear that the Jews and communists who were caught by the Nazis for starting the Reichstag fire back in the '30s were "caught red handed". No doubt the beatings administered were justice too. Want more? History is filled with them.
You see this is how it begins. It all starts with everybody meaning well and feeling all righteous. It begins with the exceptions made.
And no Anodizer. 9/10'th of the time we wont tell the shop owner what to say. Thats against the law too and why would we risk our jobs to protect some nitwit who decided his need for payback was more important then being lawful?
You obviously don't agree with what you saw, for whatever reason....I can respect that. But one undeniable fact can be extracted from this:
If he was arrested unharmed, he would add a criminal charge to his record, get a free meal in jail and pay a fine.....then would most likely go out and try to rob someone else at some point. BUT, judging by what happened, he will have a lasting memory of what happens when he encounters a citizen who refuses to be a victim and it will do alot more than a free ride, a fine and a charge could ever do to discourage this type of activity in the future.
Who knows, after the bruises fade and his vision returns, he may just go GET A JOB and quit trying to be a parasite on society.
Either way, the vast majority is sick of crime and enjoyed seeing this d-bag get what he deserved. :rock
I like it. I like it because I have been stolen from. It's not a nice feeling. If I ever find out who did it, I will make sure NO cameras record what happens. :salute
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Sure Roundeye, until somebody in your family gets their rights trampled.
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Sure Roundeye, until somebody in your family gets their rights trampled.
If someone in my family decided to rob a store, I would expect their rights (and their A double S) to get trampled. :salute
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The concept of "innocent until proven guilty" is a legal conceit that establishes the position of the defendent before the majesty of the law. This is a requirement of the jury. The cop that arrests an individual is not responsible for a presumption of innocence. The prosecutor (a representative of the state) doesn't presume innocence...he is actively trying to convict. And someone who is in the process of being victimized in a violent crime most certainly is not required to accord a presumption of innocence.
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If someone in my family decided to rob a store, I would expect their rights (and their A double S) to get trampled. :salute
What if someone in your family went in to buy some milk, and somebody kicked the snot outta your family member, and said they were stealing the milk. Okay by you? Or should they have to prove the theft first? You know, "proven guilty" before punishment?
Just asking.
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I really don't get all of the analyzing and hypothetical questions concerning this. :rolleyes:
Maybe it's because I grew up in the south where parents taught their children to do right, or you got a belt on your backside, not put em in a "time out".
Thats what is wrong with society today. Too many time outs and not enough on-the-spot corrections.
Some d-bag grows up wrong, tries to rob a store and victimize a hard working citizen, gets corrected on the spot and suddenly HE'S the victim :rolleyes:
Regardless of how you look at it, the clerk did that dude a favor. A good @*$ whipping will make you do better! :aok
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Boy...hahahaha, thats a mouthful. Every individual right you have crumbling under the weight of one sentence. I hear that the Jews and communists who were caught by the Nazis for starting the Reichstag fire back in the '30s were "caught red handed". No doubt the beatings administered were justice too. Want more? History is filled with them.
You see this is how it begins. It all starts with everybody meaning well and feeling all righteous. It begins with the exceptions made.
And no Anodizer. 9/10'th of the time we wont tell the shop owner what to say. Thats against the law too and why would we risk our jobs to protect some nitwit who decided his need for payback was more important then being lawful?
Yeah I just watched the entire thing. The last two kicks, after the store guy took off his jacket and before he dragged the offender out of the camera view?? These kicks were purely unlawful and couldnt be justified. This store owner would have bee arrested as well.
Then you are the other tenth that wouldn't give the good guy a little help to stay out of trouble for doing the right thing... I know lots of cops that welcome this sort of thing.. Makes their jobs easier... :D
Chances are this kid will do/did 6 months, max... Or he may be sentenced to a year and get out after 30 days on a judicial order and placed on probation.. The only thing the justice system is worried about is money.. The kid gets a D.O.C. number.. The dept. of corrections gets its money.. And violla, joey douchbag thug wanna be gets out early... With jail/prison over crowding, this stuff is not a priority for the actual justice system.. Maybe it is for you cops, but when it gets down to it, this stuff is petty.. Basically, when the system gets a hold of him, he'll do little time and go out and do the same thing after he finds out he's a looser and will never have a viable life or a viable job.. He'll try to rob/shoplift/steal again... But he won't do it at this guy's store..... :)
One last thing.. "Lawful" is a broad term... The "Law" is pliable like silly puddy... People who execute the "law" have discretion.... Just like the good cops who'd see this for what it was
and wouldn't purposefully try to get the shop employee/owner in trouble...
It sounds like you'd be the kind of cop that would... Shame on you...
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Anodizer with the tripe you serve up in this forum I could just picture you on your back, spittling all over yourself, begging for mercy, promising mommie you'll be better. Nobody who babbles nonsense like you could possibly, actually be a man too.
Another cop expert wearing a turd costume.
Then you are the other tenth that wouldn't give the good guy a little help to stay out of trouble for doing the right thing... I know lots of cops that welcome this sort of thing.. Makes their jobs easier...
Chances are this kid will do/did 6 months, max... Or he may be sentenced to a year and get out after 30 days on a judicial order and placed on probation.. The only thing the justice system is worried about is money.. The kid gets a D.O.C. number.. The dept. of corrections gets its money.. And violla, joey douchbag thug wanna be gets out early... With jail/prison over crowding, this stuff is not a priority for the actual justice system.. Maybe it is for you cops, but when it gets down to it, this stuff is petty.. Basically, when the system gets a hold of him, he'll do little time and go out and do the same thing after he finds out he's a looser and will never have a viable life or a viable job.. He'll try to rob/shoplift/steal again... But he won't do it at this guy's store.....
One last thing.. "Lawful" is a broad term... The "Law" is pliable like silly puddy... People who execute the "law" have discretion.... Just like the good cops who'd see this for what it was
and wouldn't purposefully try to get the shop employee/owner in trouble...
It sounds like you'd be the kind of cop that would... Shame on you...
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See Rule #4
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Well, this thread's toast.
Anyway back to the original video... As much as I enjoy seeing citizens defend themselves, I'm much more concerned for the shop keeper's saftey than anyone else. I've known of or seen too many revenge hits by scared kids who got beat up once. They (or more often their family) come back later with a gun and get back Mr. I-used-to-be-thug-money-now-my-face-is-broken's "honor." This more than anything else is why you have to be careful about how you "defend" yourself.
Also, someone get the guy taping the tape a friggin steady cam.
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Oh yeah, its toast. But I still have to qoute the kid. :rofl This is one strange boy.
See Rule #4
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When that kid was knocking stuff over, he must have knocked open a can of "whoopass", cause he got it all over himself.
LOL! Funny stuff Dago. The extra beating is probably due to the guy being pissed from having his wife subject to this druggies/drunks onslaught and his hard earned money being potentially wasted by an unproductive loser. Hard to hold back your emotions in this sort of situation. There may be other factors for this that we cant see. Also, drugged out and drunk freaks take a lot more beating before they're down because they don't feel the pain. If the guy took out a bat and started wailing on him after he was down and stayed down, that may be excessive but I wouldn't prosecute him.
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:rofl
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Strange how the "security camera" pans around like a hand-held. Doesn't seem very efficient to have someone holding it all the time.
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wrongway
The video IS someone with a handheld taking a video of video that was taped from a static T/Z video camera console. When they pan right, you can see the video console panel controls.
ROX
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"thats right he hasnt been convicted of nothing"
I just have to shake my head on this. This is the problem with society today. No he has not been convicted... but if you watch the film you'll know, as did the owner, that this is the guy that did the crime. I have to laugh at the news folks saying the alleged culprit when showing a film of the guy doing the crime. A society lead by weak minded lawyers.
You come to my home or business and you'll get the same treatment. Folks that know that will think twice and go to your home or business instead.
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I have to laugh at the news folks saying the alleged culprit when showing a film of the guy doing the crime. A society lead by weak minded lawyers.
If the news people don't state the fact that the crime is alleged then they could all too easily sway a jury into forming an opinion as to the guilt of the suspect before a trial can be had. That is a basic constitutional right, the right of a fair and speedy trial, that should never be compromised even when trying to denigrate the evil lawyers.
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My favorite line on the subject is on C*O*P*S where they say "Subjects are considered innocent until provel guilty"....
Yeah....but we all just saw 'em do it! :aok
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