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Title: Bish and ENY
Post by: sycodon on April 10, 2009, 09:38:23 PM
Somebody explain to my how the Bish can be up on the knits by 30 and on the rooks by at least 50 and still be flying perked planes and such?

WTF is going on?
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: sycodon on April 10, 2009, 09:39:53 PM
Oh...and Woody002 you squeak...how is it your flack can take 4 AP rounds from less the 200 yards?
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: StokesAk on April 10, 2009, 09:40:43 PM
Most of the bish are not in the air. If there are 2 knights and 100 rooks it wouldn't matter unless there are rooks in the air.

And this will not end well.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: sycodon on April 10, 2009, 09:41:12 PM
Sorry if this violates the rules but there is too much weird stuff going on. AH staff needs to pay a little more attention.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Steve on April 10, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Sorry if this violates the rules but there is too much weird stuff going on. AH staff needs to pay a little more attention.

 :lol
    :cry

Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: trotter on April 10, 2009, 09:47:16 PM
So, a game with an entirely automated perk modifier/ENY system has all of a sudden been sabotaged by the syndicates of the evil, cheating rooks. How long have you been playing?
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: sycodon on April 10, 2009, 09:50:52 PM
That's syndicates of evil cheating Bish...jeeze, read the post.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: sycodon on April 10, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
Actually, all I want is an explanation.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Motherland on April 10, 2009, 09:57:38 PM
Actually, all I want is an explanation.
The ENY systems work on proportions, not quantities.


And if you put 4 AP shells into a Flack and didn't kill it you need to work on your aim.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Steve on April 10, 2009, 10:00:34 PM
The ENY systems work on proportions, not quantities.


And if you put 4 AP shells into a Flack and didn't kill it you need to work on your aim.

or try HE
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: crazyivan on April 10, 2009, 10:07:55 PM
Steve has hacked the system so he can SPie on everyone  RUNNNNNNNNN!
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: lyric1 on April 10, 2009, 10:08:02 PM
Actually, all I want is an explanation.
There has been many posts to this issue in the past. I suggest you look for one that has Lusche explain it with his step by step analysis very easy to understand & pictures to go with it.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: StokesAk on April 10, 2009, 10:08:24 PM
or try HE
The pintil gun will work better.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: crazyivan on April 10, 2009, 10:10:11 PM
AHHHHHH he Got Me. Im going now where the green grass growns.

(Punches fist in the air) Givem Hell Boys.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: sycodon on April 10, 2009, 10:13:22 PM
Ohhh...Pictures...I like pictures.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: 5PointOh on April 10, 2009, 10:17:55 PM
I have some ideas for you,

For whine #1: If you don't like the ENY system, then log, don't play, or venture to a different arena.

For whine #2: Try ramming, with your tank.  Or you could even use a plane to ram him. Try to post a video of both
 
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: WMLute on April 11, 2009, 12:13:31 AM
don't look @ the total numbers of players.

look @ % in flight.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: moot on April 11, 2009, 12:15:51 AM
Actually, all I want is an explanation.
static void   _CalculateBalance(arnaCOUNTRY_BALANCE * Balance)
{
const arnaSETTINGS * Settings;
double BalanceGain;
double Least;
int Country;
   Settings = arnaservGetSettings();
   if(Balance->TotalPlayerCnt > 0 )
   {
      if(Settings->MinBalanceTotal != 0)
      {
         BalanceGain = (double)Balance->TotalPlayerCnt / (double)Settings->MinBalanceTotal;
      }
      else
      {
         BalanceGain = 1;
      }
      if(BalanceGain > 1)
      {
         BalanceGain = 1;
      }

      Least = 2.0;
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {

         Balance->CountryPer[Country] = (double)Balance->PlayerCnt[Country] / (double)Balance->TotalPlayerCnt;
         if(Balance->CountryPer[Country] < Least)
         {
            Least = Balance->CountryPer[Country];
         }

      }

      if(Least != 0)
      {
         for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
         {

            Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] =
               (Balance->CountryPer[Country] - (Least + Settings->BaseCountryPer)) * Settings->CountryBalanceScale * BalanceGain * 100;
            if(Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] < 0)
            {
               Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
            }
            if(Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] > Settings->MinEnyValue)
            {
               Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = Settings->MinEnyValue;
            }
         }
      }
   }
   else
   {
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {
         Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
      }
   }

   if(Balance->TotalPlayerCnt < 6)
   {
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {
         Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
      }
   }


}
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Bruv119 on April 11, 2009, 12:20:28 AM
everyone knows Bish get a rough deal from the ENY limiter this is because the other 2 teams are small and skeered. 

 :noid
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Delirium on April 11, 2009, 12:20:48 AM
There you have it, by Moot's calculation 1+1 really does equal 3.

Yes, my math is just as bad as my flying. The last time I balanced my check book I ended up with a 10 trillion dollars excess and an invite to work in Washington DC.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: SoonerMP on April 11, 2009, 12:29:21 AM
Simple answer. We Bish have cracked the code at HTC thus allowing us to become the haxxor/cheats you described since it is so easy to break into the system and sabotage the fun for everyone.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Motherland on April 11, 2009, 12:52:31 AM
static void   _CalculateBalance(arnaCOUNTRY_BALANCE * Balance)
{
const arnaSETTINGS * Settings;
double BalanceGain;
double Least;
int Country;
   Settings = arnaservGetSettings();
   if(Balance->TotalPlayerCnt > 0 )
   {
      if(Settings->MinBalanceTotal != 0)
      {
         BalanceGain = (double)Balance->TotalPlayerCnt / (double)Settings->MinBalanceTotal;
      }
      else
      {
         BalanceGain = 1;
      }
      if(BalanceGain > 1)
      {
         BalanceGain = 1;
      }

      Least = 2.0;
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {

         Balance->CountryPer[Country] = (double)Balance->PlayerCnt[Country] / (double)Balance->TotalPlayerCnt;
         if(Balance->CountryPer[Country] < Least)
         {
            Least = Balance->CountryPer[Country];
         }

      }

      if(Least != 0)
      {
         for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
         {

            Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] =
               (Balance->CountryPer[Country] - (Least + Settings->BaseCountryPer)) * Settings->CountryBalanceScale * BalanceGain * 100;
            if(Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] < 0)
            {
               Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
            }
            if(Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] > Settings->MinEnyValue)
            {
               Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = Settings->MinEnyValue;
            }
         }
      }
   }
   else
   {
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {
         Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
      }
   }

   if(Balance->TotalPlayerCnt < 6)
   {
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {
         Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
      }
   }


}
For me, as well as (I imagine) a lot of other people, this is complete giberish. Would someone mind translating this into a mathematical formula of some sort?
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Bruv119 on April 11, 2009, 12:54:57 AM
if you have significantly more players than the other team you get ENY.   :t
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: stroker71 on April 11, 2009, 02:16:17 AM
Most of the bish are not in the air. If there are 2 knights and 100 rooks it wouldn't matter unless there are rooks in the air.

And this will not end well.

<BBBBBZZZZZZ> wrong try again.  If your sitting in the tower you still count on what ever side your playing.  ENY don't go off the actual numbers it works on the % of people your side has. 

I'll take WWAAAAHHH :cry for 100 Alex
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Lusche on April 11, 2009, 03:14:31 AM
Somebody explain to my how the Bish can be up on the knits by 30 and on the rooks by at least 50 and still be flying perked planes and such?

ENY limiter works by relative numbers, not absolute. 50 players more can can be 5% or 500% advantage. Look at player % numbers next time.

Most of the bish are not in the air. If there are 2 knights and 100 rooks it wouldn't matter unless there are rooks in the air.

How many are airborne doesn't matter. ENY calculations are basen on players in arena, regardless of being in tower or on a sortie.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Sloehand on April 11, 2009, 03:25:20 AM
Sorry if this violates the rules but there is too much weird stuff going on. AH staff needs to pay a little more attention.

And this astute observation comes from someone who has played the game how long?  {Zinc member}   :D
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Hawk55 on April 11, 2009, 07:55:38 AM
And this astute observation comes from someone who has played the game how long?  {Zinc member}   :D

Took the words out of my mouth!   :rock
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: B4Buster on April 11, 2009, 08:10:18 AM
You must be another knight conspiracy watcher.

I can tell you're new so I'll be nice...

first of all...this isn't the place to call out players. Save it for PMs. As far as the wirbelwind problem is concerned...you can shoot at their front quarter all day without killing them. You need to go for the tracks and rear end. I've put far more Sherman rounds in a wirb than 4 and still not destroy it.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Max on April 11, 2009, 08:15:23 AM
Actually, all I want is an explanation.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/jj8q2s.jpg)


You can't handle the truth!
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: DCCBOSS on April 11, 2009, 08:21:41 AM
Somebody explain to my how the Bish can be up on the knits by 30 and on the rooks by at least 50 and still be flying perked planes and such?

WTF is going on?

I suggest you a seach on ENY posts and you get all the info you need.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: opposum on April 11, 2009, 10:43:39 AM
The pintil gun will work better.

I prefer ramming them from the back side.... it works better for me                               :D


Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: PFactorDave on April 11, 2009, 10:56:13 AM
I prefer ramming them from the back side.... it works better for me                               :D


Are you named Bubba?  Are you writing from a Prison Library computer, by any chance?
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: xbrit on April 11, 2009, 12:23:04 PM
Are you named Bubba?  Are you writing from a Prison Library computer, by any chance?
Don't forget to keep hold of the soap !!
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: rvflyer on April 11, 2009, 01:27:05 PM
And this astute observation comes from someone who has played the game how long?  {Zinc member}   :D

Sloehand, actually (zinc member) has nothing to do with how long anyone has been playing the game..
I have been playing many years but only joined the forum a short time ago and then have only posted
a few times. Hence I am also a "zinc member"
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Sincraft on April 11, 2009, 01:29:02 PM
ENY limiter works by relative numbers, not absolute. 50 players more can can be 5% or 500% advantage. Look at player % numbers next time.

How many are airborne doesn't matter. ENY calculations are basen on players in arena, regardless of being in tower or on a sortie.

EXACTLY!
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Kostic on April 11, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
nevermiind
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Banshee7 on April 11, 2009, 03:49:43 PM
nevermiind

Hi BPARKER
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: frosty on April 11, 2009, 03:51:55 PM
I too think something's up.

Check out this screenshot I took yesterday...it's a bit grainy because it's from a Windows screen capture of the combat video.

Looks like the Bish have unlocked some new planes?

(http://i.d.com.com/i/dl/media/dlimage/68/45/6/68456_large.jpeg)
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 11, 2009, 04:57:31 PM
I too think something's up.

Check out this screenshot I took yesterday...it's a bit grainy because it's from a Windows screen capture of the combat video.

Looks like the Bish have unlocked some new planes?

(http://i.d.com.com/i/dl/media/dlimage/68/45/6/68456_large.jpeg)

That cant be bish. unless you pan out and see 50 other bish nearby going after 1 guy
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: PFactorDave on April 11, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
That cant be bish. unless you pan out and see 50 other bish nearby going after 1 guy

It certainly isn't a Rook...  He's low enough to still see the ground.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: CountD90 on April 11, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
Well since hes close to a field it could be a bish.... Hes just ack hugging instead of hording..
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: whiteman on April 11, 2009, 06:26:29 PM
well we haven't got the A-26 but us bish have settled for the A-6, HTC thanks i guess.

(http://www.pcaviator.com/shop/resource/images/products/VCOPSssLarge1933.jpg)
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Shifty on April 11, 2009, 07:31:56 PM
Not to mention how a case of scotch got our squad a whole new plane complete with squadron skins.

(http://webzoom.freewebs.com/virtual84/JPEG%20Replacements/ShiftyClose.jpg)

HTC is Bishin!  :aok
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Boxboy on April 11, 2009, 09:35:55 PM
And this astute observation comes from someone who has played the game how long?  {Zinc member}   :D

LOL so now number of BBS posts indicate how long you have played the game??? :noid :rofl :huh
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: PFactorDave on April 11, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
LOL so now number of BBS posts indicate how long you have played the game??? :noid :rofl :huh

Well apparently, according to some, only people who have made a appropriately high number of BBS posts should be allowed to post on the BBS...  Quite the chicken or the egg conundrum.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: trotter on April 12, 2009, 04:01:58 AM
I am a nickel member. My opinion is worth half that of a Dime member, and 1/5 that of a Quarter member.
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: RoGenT on April 12, 2009, 06:33:37 PM
I am a nickel member. My opinion is worth half that of a Dime member, and 1/5 that of a Quarter member.


ditto
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: Twizzty on April 13, 2009, 01:34:17 PM
Don't forget to keep hold of the soap !!
:uhoh
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/TwizztyAH/motivation2notgoPrison.jpg)
Title: Re: Bish and ENY
Post by: waystin2 on April 13, 2009, 02:34:53 PM
:uhoh
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/TwizztyAH/motivation2notgoPrison.jpg)



 :rofl :rofl :rofl


That is so wrong Twizzty!

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