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Title: Why not Gliders?
Post by: ketinkrad on April 15, 2009, 09:55:06 AM
They had Gliders in WW II, why not in Aces II?
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: BMathis on April 15, 2009, 10:01:21 AM
They had Gliders in WW II, why not in Aces II?

"Why you gotta pick my glider!" "You vulched my glider, I was just about to land troops!!"


Other than the gripes, we should really upgrade the planes we have in game already. I'd like to also see additions of new planes to fulfill the holes in our plane set.

 :salute
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: RTHolmes on April 15, 2009, 11:40:04 AM
why would you want gliders? :confused:
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: rkanjl on April 15, 2009, 11:42:14 AM
My plane's been turned into a glider plenty of times.

Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Slate on April 15, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
  Shhhhhhhhhhh I thought I heard something. :uhoh
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Lusche on April 15, 2009, 11:49:37 AM
why would you want gliders? :confused:

To shoot down buffs:

(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/glider/bv40/bv40-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: expat on April 15, 2009, 11:51:16 AM
well ,why not gliders ?
Would give something new  for the c47 to do .
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: RTHolmes on April 15, 2009, 11:52:05 AM
that is one huge nazi right there, he must be 30ft tall :o
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Lusche on April 15, 2009, 11:52:26 AM
that is one huge nazi right there, he must be 30ft tall :o

 :lol
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: expat on April 15, 2009, 12:45:59 PM
Nah the germans had relly really small glider troops  :D
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Lusche on April 15, 2009, 12:51:36 PM
Nah the germans had relly really small glider troops  :D

(http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/n_o_d/images/airplanes/bv40_crosssection.jpg)
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: LLogann on April 15, 2009, 01:17:58 PM


 :aok
My plane's been turned into a glider plenty of times.


Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: TEShaw on April 15, 2009, 03:53:23 PM
that is one huge nazi right there, he must be 30ft tall :o

Furthermore, it appears he's urinating upon the glider.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: mtnman on April 15, 2009, 05:56:09 PM
Gliders might be cool if they "spawned" similarly to the way GV's can spawn near enemy fields.  Have them spawn at a certain altitude, so they could glide on in...
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: uptown on April 15, 2009, 06:16:48 PM
just chop throttle  :aok
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: phatzo on April 15, 2009, 10:40:46 PM
To shoot down buffs:

(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/glider/bv40/bv40-2.jpg)
whats it called snailman
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: zuii on April 15, 2009, 11:07:07 PM
KI-84ib
KI-84ic
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Twincam on April 15, 2009, 11:16:38 PM
Take the TA -152H to 20K,turn off the motor, now got your self a glider  :aok
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Larry on April 16, 2009, 12:24:38 AM
Furthermore, it appears he's urinating upon the glider.


I'm betting its a drunken hobo that wondered into the factory.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 16, 2009, 12:31:43 AM
  Shhhhhhhhhhh I thought I heard something. :uhoh

So much for my infiltration behind the NOE missions, being a spi.    :noid
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 16, 2009, 12:46:02 AM
Well, we have tank spawns & PT spawns, why not have glider spawns a mile or two off a base 5-10k at speed, if say all the field guns are down, and the troop barracks are all down, or more. Could also have the ability to land light tanks or jeeps.



Would be fun as heck.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: TEShaw on April 16, 2009, 01:00:01 AM
Stephen Ambrose describes the June 6, 1944 glider landings at the Orne River bridge and Caen Cannal as the best flying in World War II.  (His book, Pegasus Bridge.)

There are now markers established on that river-bank, indicating where the gliders landed that night in the dark.

Truely impressive.

Precision glider landing with troops in AH2 could be interesting. Precision and possible rough terrain being operative point and success modifiers.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: frank3 on April 16, 2009, 05:16:44 AM
I think the gliders would be hard to implement, since they would have to be towed.

An idea that might work is having a glider-drone follow your C-47 (just like in a bomber formation, but just 1 drone). If you bail out of your C-47, you'll spawn inside the Glider and do your thing :)

Not sure if the C-47 should also be able to drop troops though.
If added, the glider would need to be perked (who'd fly a 'lone' C-47 after that?)
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Lusche on April 16, 2009, 07:11:06 AM
whats it called snailman

Blohm & Voss BV 40
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Whitey33 on April 16, 2009, 07:21:55 AM
Give us JU-52.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: waystin2 on April 16, 2009, 09:03:03 AM
I think it would be a great add. Another exciting way for me to be shot down! :rock
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: frank3 on April 16, 2009, 10:56:18 AM
Give us JU-52.

That's not a glider.
And if you knew, you're off topic.
Come to think of it, I don't think it ever towed a glider.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Lusche on April 16, 2009, 11:07:41 AM
Come to think of it, I don't think it ever towed a glider.

Ju 52's were used very frequently for towing gliders.
Was the standard plane to tow the DFS 230.

(http://www.modellversium.de/presse/bilder/489-Ju52schlepp.JPG)
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Nilsen on April 16, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
Give us JU-52.

 :aok
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Reaper90 on April 16, 2009, 12:29:12 PM
Another exciting way for me to be shot down! :rock

w3rd.

TheReaperGlider, NEW and IMPROVED!! Now with more bullet attractant smell!
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: mtnman on April 16, 2009, 01:03:23 PM
I think the gliders would be hard to implement, since they would have to be towed.


Having them spawn (like gv's do) would eliminate the need to tow them.  I think they'd be a neat addition to deliver troops and supplies.  I think they'd need to spawn far enough away from the base, and at a high enough altitude to make them challenging, hazardous, etc...

I don't know that they could be used to deliver other vehicles, I think that's a tough one to code.  But who knows...
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: BMathis on April 16, 2009, 02:42:38 PM
Having them spawn (like gv's do) would eliminate the need to tow them.  I think they'd be a neat addition to deliver troops and supplies.  I think they'd need to spawn far enough away from the base, and at a high enough altitude to make them challenging, hazardous, etc...

That brings a whole new meaning to spawn camping  :t
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: mtnman on April 16, 2009, 03:08:47 PM
That brings a whole new meaning to spawn camping  :t

Hehe, devious minds think alike...

They'd be a cross between a neat addition tactically, and candy falling from the sky.  I envision an AH version of an open-water feeding frenzy.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: frank3 on April 17, 2009, 06:35:36 AM
Ju 52's were used very frequently for towing gliders.
Was the standard plane to tow the DFS 230.

(http://www.modellversium.de/presse/bilder/489-Ju52schlepp.JPG)

Didn't know that! Wish I could delete my post :)
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: crazyivan on April 17, 2009, 10:23:16 AM
:aok
+1 doesn't seem right shooting that c47 down all the time.

As for the glider. If it would roll down a hill, and takeoff im in.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Whitey33 on April 17, 2009, 11:08:36 AM
For example: Ju-52 and glider (2 pilots) can bring 2xtroops to target but they have to gain altitude.  2xC47´s can do the same, but they can approach under darbar level. Even if radar was down, due to icon range gliders can be seen too far.

Maybe if gliders icon range was shorter, like gv´s? JU-52 towing glider up enough, release it and dives down and continues NOE as backup troops or supplies. It will give little more changes to glider to survive by avoiding enemy fighters. Of course it works only if radar was down.

Just thinking...
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Bubbajj on April 17, 2009, 12:22:39 PM
would gliders made of wood and cloth even have a dar signature?
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Chalenge on April 17, 2009, 01:22:58 PM
Gliders would not be a bad idea if there were ridge currents and thermals and wave lift modeled. I dont think you really want that to happen though... really.
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Slate on April 17, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/gfsclan/World%20War%20Two%20Photos/scattered_across.jpg)                                                                                                                                                                                                             Pickers Playground
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: groundfeeder on April 17, 2009, 07:11:26 PM
Now Now,Imagine something slower than a goon with shoot me stripes!!!!!!!!
I am up for it!!
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: Nemisis on April 18, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
The only thing gliders would be good for is if you put one in the game that could carry a large tank like the Tiger. They could also carry any of the smaller vehicles like the halftracks or the amphibious vehivles. The ability to drop a Tiger any where within bomber range (they would have to tow the gliders) would be invaluable but would throw off the whole ground combat aspect of the game as it is very tough to kill :cry.  Other than that a glider is essentialy a C47 that is outa gas and if you fail to take the base you will be killed. And glider borne infintry had a high casulty rate in Op.Market Garden as many crashed in forests killing most if not all of the troops in the glider, plus some droped short, others landed in enemy teritory, some even landed in Germany unless I got the location or borders wrong. :pray(http://)
Title: Re: Why not Gliders?
Post by: frank3 on April 19, 2009, 05:21:52 AM
others landed in enemy teritory, some even landed in Germany unless I got the location or borders wrong. :pray(http://)

I recall ALL of them landed in enemy territory, that's what they were meant to do in the first place.

Why land a glider in friendly territory?