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Title: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Nemisis on April 17, 2009, 05:09:49 PM
Some of us bomber guys were wondering if we could get a new medium to heavy bomber maby something in the range of the B24's proceder (B29 please!!!!) as the current bombers either require you to climb to un-real hights,fend off swarms of enemies with inadequte weaponry, or are barley able to destroy a hanger. So we would like either a bomber with a larger bomb load to make the deaths worth while or for you to up grade the defensive aromrment of the Lancaster. :salute
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Plazus on April 17, 2009, 05:14:19 PM
*Cough* before you say anything about this, you should do some research on your bombers first. Lancasters have poor defensive armament, just like it did in the real war. Also, because AH2 enables the "formation" feature in the game, HTC spread out the ord in the bomb bay (for all formation bombers) so that no single bomber has a crap ton of bombs capable of wiping out an airfield. For that matter, if you had full realistic bomb load and "formations" enabled, you would likely be wiping out an airfield base twice in a row. This is not fair game in the world of AH2.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: LLogann on April 17, 2009, 11:54:07 PM
Gentle you handled that.... <S>
*Cough*
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Motherland on April 17, 2009, 11:55:18 PM
Also, because AH2 enables the "formation" feature in the game, HTC spread out the ord in the bomb bay (for all formation bombers) so that no single bomber has a crap ton of bombs capable of wiping out an airfield. For that matter, if you had full realistic bomb load and "formations" enabled, you would likely be wiping out an airfield base twice in a row. This is not fair game in the world of AH2.
What?
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: FYB on April 18, 2009, 12:10:06 AM
Some of us bomber guys were wondering if we could get a new medium to heavy bomber maby something in the range of the B24's proceder (B29 please!!!!) as the current bombers either require you to climb to un-real hights,fend off swarms of enemies with inadequte weaponry, or are barley able to destroy a hanger. So we would like either a bomber with a larger bomb load to make the deaths worth while or for you to up grade the defensive aromrment of the Lancaster. :salute
I just love the comedy noob gold in these forums! So many with new, yet useless, repeated, and highly hilarious threads. If you had searched you would of found a dozen straight pages of B-29 threads.

"un-real hights" I feel like I'm fighting or fending off a midget with a grudge in his butt. Excuse the language, or tone, which ever may be more or less offensive.

 By unreal heights, what do you exactly mean? most bombers go to 20k and up, that's not "un-real hights". Going 42k in a B-17, that's unreal; unless i made a mistake on the service ceiling...

"inadequte" weaponry? Are you asking we mount 42mm cannons on the gunner positions in heavy bombers, or just simply make 50. cal's more effective than they should be? If this thread was about you getting gunned by a 50. cal from a victorious bomber then stop.

-FYB
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Unit791 on April 18, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
Some of us bomber guys were wondering if we could get a new medium to heavy bomber maby something in the range of the B24's proceder (B29 please!!!!) as the current bombers either require you to climb to un-real hights,fend off swarms of enemies with inadequte weaponry, or are barley able to destroy a hanger. So we would like either a bomber with a larger bomb load to make the deaths worth while or for you to up grade the defensive aromrment of the Lancaster. :salute

Geez, another B29 wish already?  Well the problem with B29 is that, well, it could be able to level an entire field on just one run.  That would take a lot of fun out of bombing and give new meaning to the word "porker" if we got one.

Also, "as the current bombers either require you to climb to un-real hights, fend off swarms of enemies with inadeuete weaponry", ok dude, have you actually EVER flown a B17 or B24 in this game?  Because if so, you wouldn't have really said that.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: StokesAk on April 18, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
+1
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: FYB on April 18, 2009, 02:53:03 PM
+1
I'm going to just guess and say +1 for the B-29, otherwise i demand to see you in jail for drugs.

-FYB
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Unit791 on April 18, 2009, 03:10:03 PM
lol
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Spikes on April 18, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
*Cough* before you say anything about this, you should do some research on your bombers first. Lancasters have poor defensive armament, just like it did in the real war. Also, because AH2 enables the "formation" feature in the game, HTC spread out the ord in the bomb bay (for all formation bombers) so that no single bomber has a crap ton of bombs capable of wiping out an airfield. For that matter, if you had full realistic bomb load and "formations" enabled, you would likely be wiping out an airfield base twice in a row. This is not fair game in the world of AH2.
A set of lancs can wipe out an entire small air field. :)
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: AKDogg on April 18, 2009, 03:36:00 PM
I can take a set of lancs and shut down a Medium field myself.  You may need to go to the TA for bombing lessons if you have trouble taking down a hanger.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: StokesAk on April 18, 2009, 04:12:46 PM
I can take a set of lancs and shut down a Medium field myself.  You may need to go to the TA for bombing lessons if you have trouble taking down a hanger.

I need to goto the TA. Missed the HQ from 5k once.  :cry
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Rich46yo on April 18, 2009, 04:20:49 PM
What we need is some kind of penalty for those who bail from perfectly good bombers after they drop their ord.

This Lamebrain type of play allows each bomber pilot to drop 2x the ord a single one could do, and I'm getting tired of seeing it happen. All a new bomber will do is give them something new to jump out of, saving the trouble of flying and fighting their way back.

A 1 hour penalty from flying a new set of bombers will do nicely. Last night I saw a Bish take out our CV with Lancs and then bail from them. Boy is that Lame. Take out a CV, ruin a good fight, and then dont even try and land the things.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Nemisis on April 18, 2009, 06:05:57 PM
first of all unreal hights means 25-30 k, second if you guys can make it and not get shot down, then I have quite a few stalkers flying perk aircraft, thirdly, inadequte armorment means the lank has only 2  .50's on it, the B17, B24 don't carry enough tail gunner ammo, I commonly run down arround 100 rounds for the tail and 200 for the top. and about the bomb load, I get shot down on my first pass or just after, so I only get one chance and the lighter bomber don't carry enough bombs to make getting killed almost every sortie. And by the way I am not new, I have been playing for around 3 yrs now and something that supports my stalker theroy is that this started happening in the last 2 monts or so.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 18, 2009, 06:56:25 PM

"inadequte" weaponry..."

-FYB
He obviously hasn't met 999000.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Larry on April 18, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
A set of lancs can wipe out an entire small air field. :)


So can a set of Ju88s. :)
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: ScottyK on April 18, 2009, 07:37:20 PM
25-30K is unreal heights?  My understanding is that 25k or higher was the optimal ceiling for B 17s. But im sure someone will rip into me about this
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Nemisis on April 18, 2009, 08:01:28 PM
well scottyK I meant to say 35 -40k's with 40k's meaning up in the fourties I worded that badly :frown:. I have NO idea why I put it like that. I must have been drunk :o. And I think you are right about the optimal service celing, either that or I am drunk again... :rolleyes:. Srry for the misunderstanding. :salute
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Anaxogoras on April 18, 2009, 09:59:55 PM
Use teamwork:  fly in a box and use fighter escort.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: MjTalon on April 18, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
I'm going to just guess and say +1 for the B-29, otherwise i demand to see you in jail for drugs.

-FYB

 :lol
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: FYB on April 18, 2009, 11:28:16 PM
25-30K is unreal heights?  My understanding is that 25k or higher was the optimal ceiling for B 17s. But im sure someone will rip into me about this
41k is the service ceiling of the B-17.

-FYB
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Cajunn on April 19, 2009, 01:47:43 AM
fend off swarms of enemies with inadequte weaponry, or are barley able to destroy a hanger. So we would like either a bomber with a larger bomb load to make the deaths worth while or for you to up grade the defensive aromrment of the Lancaster. :salute


Geeez I don't even attack Bombers anymore it's almost a death sentence because some of these guys have gotten so good in the guns. And he wants to upgrade!!!! :huh
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: RTHolmes on April 19, 2009, 04:41:45 AM
the current bombers ... inadequte weaponry, or are barley able to destroy a hanger.

 :huh

Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: FYB on April 19, 2009, 09:55:22 AM

Geeez I don't even attack Bombers anymore it's almost a death sentence because some of these guys have gotten so good in the guns. And he wants to upgrade!!!! :huh

He wouldn't be complaining if he didn't suck at gunning. That's one "bomber pilot" who will get killed easily.  ;)

-FYB
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Enker on April 19, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
Dunno if this is the right place, but here we go!

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Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: waystin2 on April 19, 2009, 12:14:23 PM

So can a set of Ju88s. :)

Oh yeah Baby! :rock
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Castle51 on April 22, 2009, 12:34:31 AM
Nemisis, I don't think its got anything to do with the bombers we have in the game.  I think its just you.
      I fly B-24s more than any other bird in the MA and I can honestly say that in a liberator, I have never been shot down while above 20k.  Though I've had plenty try, the guns are more than sufficient to take down the occasional interceptor and even after sustaining significant damage in some cases, I always make it to my target, roll my bombs off and return home every time. 
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: phatzo on April 22, 2009, 01:01:38 AM
Nemisis I posted this thread before reading yours
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,263373.0.html
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Bruv119 on April 22, 2009, 02:09:40 AM
TU-2, DO-217 or G4M2, 

All very capable medium bombers that would be useful in the MA and not hangar queens.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Denholm on April 22, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
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^Must remember to post with Furball's animation!
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: waystin2 on April 22, 2009, 11:17:27 AM
PE-2 or TU-2! :aok
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Nemisis on April 22, 2009, 03:06:03 PM
Like I say phatzo, I think I got stalkers in 262's and other perk planes, If you average it out then about every third sortie I get jumped by several 262's, I have no idea how they find me, it's crazy In the Titanic Tuesday arena I went from N. to the S. out to the islands, even AA gunner, then the 262's strafed me :frown:. but if I get rid of my stalkers then the trolling for fighters is something I will try. thnx!!! :salute
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: cowboy03 on April 22, 2009, 05:55:29 PM
Use teamwork:  fly in a box and use fighter escort.
   I second that

wait, where have I heard that before......somewhere....impo rtant.......oh yea! That's what they did in the REAL war.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Taylor on April 22, 2009, 06:28:52 PM
              I agree with nemisis. WE NEED A NEW BOMBER (please please please be a b-29, id be sad if it wont be  :cry ). we have all the famous giant bombers except the b-29 (rock on b-29  :rock).                                                                                                                                                                              :salute                                                                                                                        i still cant beleve u didnt have b-29 when i started  :mad:. PLEASE GIVE US THE PLEASURE OF THE B-29  :pray :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: MstWntd on April 22, 2009, 06:30:52 PM
I can take a set of lancs and shut down a Medium field myself.  You may need to go to the TA for bombing lessons if you have trouble taking down a hanger.
I can take down a small field...1.) what bomb set do you use 2.) I use 14 1K's...and I salvo 2 for each hanger. Not good nuff for a 1 salvo :P
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: thndregg on April 22, 2009, 06:46:54 PM
I'm just eager to see the revised Ki67, Ju88, and B26.
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Enker on April 22, 2009, 09:16:08 PM
              I agree with nemisis. WE NEED A NEW BOMBER (please please please be a b-29, id be sad if it wont be  :cry ). we have all the famous giant bombers except the b-29 (rock on b-29  :rock).                                                                                                                                                                              :salute                                                                                                                        i still cant beleve u didnt have b-29 when i started  :mad:. PLEASE GIVE US THE PLEASURE OF THE B-29  :pray :pray :pray :pray
Definitely a shade. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: FYB on April 23, 2009, 06:48:35 PM
Definitely a shade. :rolleyes:
Agreed.  :D

-FYB
Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: GGhost on April 26, 2009, 08:19:30 AM
I'm just eager to see the revised Ki67, Ju88, and B26.

^ I have to agree with EGG, need to revise the planes.^
And make the bomb load bigger or more realistic, BUT also loose some total fuel load out for weight and balance purposes.

Title: Re: New or revamped medium or heavy bomber
Post by: Motherland on April 26, 2009, 06:11:14 PM
^ I have to agree with EGG, need to revise the planes.^
And make the bomb load bigger or more realistic, BUT also loose some total fuel load out for weight and balance purposes.


They aren't going to change the bomb/fuel loadouts to unrealistic figures... I think by revised he means brought up to the current graphical standards.