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Title: Newbs
Post by: stephen on April 20, 2009, 06:12:49 AM
As a rule I think all newbies should have a yellow bar under their name/icon, and should be identified in the text buffer in some way.
Yesterday this guy kept saying he was in an lvt bringing troops,and after 30minutes I realised he was floating about ten miles off shore... and probably mentaly handicapped.

Perhaps a self distruct for anyone who straifs the indestructable more than 3 times in a row...

LOL, "somone keep these guys off of me!!" he finaly made it to shore , though tragicly the nme saw fit to destroy his lvt......., then he upped another one......TARD
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: gpwurzel on April 20, 2009, 06:29:47 AM
So, instead of helping him out, you come on the boards to ridicule him....good effort

Wurzel
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: thndregg on April 20, 2009, 07:44:55 AM
There's a fine testament to character.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: ImADot on April 20, 2009, 08:55:00 AM
I am in agreement with the assessment of your character, Stephen.  Although you are not obligated to help new guys, if you choose not to help you should keep your mouth shut.

If anything, your wish for a "noob marker" might bear some small merit to indicate a 2-weeker on his free trial, but not for anyone who is a paying member (noob or not).  Identifying a 2-weeker will at least let people know that they are inexperienced and might need some extra help when you tell them to bring troops or to kill the ords or VH, since they might not know where the maproom is or what it looks like, etc.

I'm all for helping the new guys...I used to be one.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Denholm on April 20, 2009, 09:16:10 AM
I agree that marking an individual on their free 2-week trial of AH might have some benefits with, unfortunately, some added consequences. Benefits would be that of players attempting to assist the two-weeker in order to entice the player to stay and play. This would also lead to a better enjoyment of the game on part of the two-weeker as the player now has a possibility of making friends more quickly and also learning the ropes of the game at a faster pace. The consequence would be more individuals taking advantage of the marking of the free trial players. They would obviously harass the players suggesting that they're worthless and shouldn't attempt to assist in offensive operations. No, it may not be as harsh as you're thinking, but it will still be there.

However, in the end, I think the benefits of this feature outweigh the costs.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: ImADot on April 20, 2009, 09:36:34 AM
The consequence would be more individuals taking advantage of the marking of the free trial players. They would obviously harass the players suggesting that they're worthless and shouldn't attempt to assist in offensive operations. No, it may not be as harsh as you're thinking, but it will still be there.

Yeah, not to mention that they'd be flying around with a HUGE kill-me-I'm-new-bullseye on them.  Maybe it's best left as it is.  *Sigh*
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: The Fugitive on April 20, 2009, 09:42:30 AM
Yeah, not to mention that they'd be flying around with a HUGE kill-me-I'm-new-bullseye on them.  Maybe it's best left as it is.  *Sigh*

Unfortunately with the game play in the toilet as it is your right, it would turn into a "kill me" sign. I'd like it because then I could go easy on the guy, give him a chance to fight it out, make the fight last and be more thrilling for him.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: waystin2 on April 20, 2009, 10:08:44 AM
There is no need to put a scarlet "Newb" on any new players.  It is hard enough to learn this games ins and outs without a "kick me" note taped on your back.  Be as helpful and as courteous as possible to new players.  They may actually provide you a good future squaddie or a fun foe to fight!
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: branch37 on April 20, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
heres an idea......maybe have different colored markers for different levels of veterancy, for example;

     green=someone on 2 week trial
     yellow=paying member < 1 year
     orange= > 1 yr < 3 years
     red= < 5 years

maybe keep these markers visible only to friendlies to avoid the big "kill me sign" mentioned earlier...again just an idea  :salute
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: PFactorDave on April 20, 2009, 11:51:56 AM
heres an idea......maybe have different colored markers for different levels of veterancy, for example;

     green=someone on 2 week trial
     yellow=paying member < 1 year
     orange= > 1 yr < 3 years
     red= < 5 years

maybe keep these markers visible only to friendlies to avoid the big "kill me sign" mentioned earlier...again just an idea  :salute

Why?  There are noobs who suck...  Vets who suck...  Not to mention vets who are tools...  Why stroke their ego?  They stroke it themselves enough.

I see no value in labeling new players.  In fact, I think it is simply asking to have the channel 200 warriors harrass the new guys until they quit the game.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Lusche on April 20, 2009, 11:55:31 AM
heres an idea......maybe have different colored markers for different levels of veterancy, for example;

     green=someone on 2 week trial
     yellow=paying member < 1 year
     orange= > 1 yr < 3 years
     red= < 5 years


To what purpose?
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Dan216TH on April 20, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
As a rule I think all newbies should have a yellow bar under their name/icon, and should be identified in the text buffer in some way.
Yesterday this guy kept saying he was in an lvt bringing troops,and after 30minutes I realised he was floating about ten miles off shore... and probably mentaly handicapped.

Perhaps a self distruct for anyone who straifs the indestructable more than 3 times in a row...

LOL, "somone keep these guys off of me!!" he finaly made it to shore , though tragicly the nme saw fit to destroy his lvt......., then he upped another one......TARD
EPIC FAIL
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: frank3 on April 20, 2009, 12:06:30 PM
As a rule I think all newbies should have a yellow bar under their name/icon, and should be identified in the text buffer in some way.
Yesterday this guy kept saying he was in an lvt bringing troops,and after 30minutes I realised he was floating about ten miles off shore... and probably mentaly handicapped.

Perhaps a self distruct for anyone who straifs the indestructable more than 3 times in a row...

LOL, "somone keep these guys off of me!!" he finaly made it to shore , though tragicly the nme saw fit to destroy his lvt......., then he upped another one......TARD

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s205/FrankTimmerman/Fail.jpg)
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: thndregg on April 20, 2009, 01:44:48 PM
Why?  There are noobs who suck...  Vets who suck...
                                                 ^^^^^^
                                                  Like me. :D
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: zuii on April 20, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
Why? huh,,,, ok, where did i leave my keys!



zuii
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 20, 2009, 02:29:04 PM
As a rule I think all newbies should have a yellow bar under their name/icon, and should be identified in the text buffer in some way.
Yesterday this guy kept saying he was in an lvt bringing troops,and after 30minutes I realised he was floating about ten miles off shore... and probably mentaly handicapped.

Perhaps a self distruct for anyone who straifs the indestructable more than 3 times in a row...

LOL, "somone keep these guys off of me!!" he finaly made it to shore , though tragicly the nme saw fit to destroy his lvt......., then he upped another one......TARD

[sarcasm]
A shining example of one of our community's finest.  Way to go Stephen, you are a pillar that helps support this community and a shining example on how we should treat new players. 
[/sarcasm]


ack-ack
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Masherbrum on April 20, 2009, 02:44:44 PM
As a rule I think all newbies should have a yellow bar under their name/icon, and should be identified in the text buffer in some way.
Yesterday this guy kept saying he was in an lvt bringing troops,and after 30minutes I realised he was floating about ten miles off shore... and probably mentaly handicapped.

Perhaps a self distruct for anyone who straifs the indestructable more than 3 times in a row...

LOL, "somone keep these guys off of me!!" he finaly made it to shore , though tragicly the nme saw fit to destroy his lvt......., then he upped another one......TARD

I can give PLENTY of examples, with "vets" needing exactly what you are asking.   
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: MstWntd on April 20, 2009, 02:51:54 PM
Yeah...and a big "TOOL" sign over certain members of the game as well...*cough*
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 20, 2009, 03:01:44 PM
Yeah...and a big "TOOL" sign over certain members of the game as well...*cough*

Stephen already has that tattooed on his arse, right below "Insert" and right above the arrow.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: MjTalon on April 20, 2009, 03:16:38 PM
 :rofl Ack Ack
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Enker on April 20, 2009, 03:22:03 PM
Why?  There are noobs who suck...  Vets who suck...  Not to mention vets who are tools...  Why stroke their ego?  They stroke it themselves enough.

I see no value in labeling new players.  In fact, I think it is simply asking to have the channel 200 warriors harrass the new guys until they quit the game.
Yeah, some of those vets have hot dates with their egos and their right hands. [cough]DrDeath[/cough]
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: stephen on April 20, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
I did........assuming alot guys, i told the guy like 10 times to wait till the cv is clo...wait a minute,....no matter how I form this somone is going to have a problem with it.
So ill just say.....hmmmm WHATEVA! :D
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: dashed on April 21, 2009, 06:42:09 AM
Perhaps we should go the other way, and have people that can be trusted to help have a special icon?   Would make it easier on the new people.  Maybe even have a ch thatafter a set time only the trusted mentors can access, perhaps 30 day.

Dashe
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: skullman on April 21, 2009, 07:03:33 AM
I like the idea of marking 2 weekers to friendlies only.That way he isnt a target an can be given help.I am all for helping the new guys as we all were new and needed help.These guys make good squaddies,worthy opponents and a good community member.I know people that have played for a couple of years an still learning.This game has a huge learning curve an helping people should be our goal and not slamming them as it does no good at all except maybe running off a future great player.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Lusche on April 21, 2009, 07:10:09 AM
Perhaps we should go the other way, and have people that can be trusted to help have a special icon? 

Who decides about which players are "trusted"... and what does that mean anyways?
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: phatzo on April 22, 2009, 12:17:54 AM
Who decides about which players are "trusted"... and what does that mean anyways?

c'mon trust me press alt f4
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: MachFly on April 22, 2009, 12:23:12 AM
As a rule I think all newbies should have a yellow bar under their name/icon, and should be identified in the text buffer in some way.
Yesterday this guy kept saying he was in an lvt bringing troops,and after 30minutes I realised he was floating about ten miles off shore... and probably mentaly handicapped.

The way I see it, if you have a problem with noobs not doing what you want them to do, just do things your self.


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Perhaps a self distruct for anyone who straifs the indestructable more than 3 times in a row...
Do you have a problem with other people wasting there ammo?


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LOL, "somone keep these guys off of me!!" he finaly made it to shore , though tragicly the nme saw fit to destroy his lvt......., then he upped another one......TARD
Did you ever get killed by the same guy twice in a row? Take off fly for a few min, get shot down, take off fly for a few min, and get shot down again.
If not perhaps one of these kind gentleman would provide you with such an example.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Larry on April 22, 2009, 01:55:18 AM
Id rather there be a training program that you would have to complete before being allowed to play on line. It would really cut down on the new guys coming into an arena and typing "HOW DO I TAKE OFF!!!11!!!" or "HOW DO I MAKE MY CAR GO!!!!1!!!1".
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Denholm on April 22, 2009, 08:39:26 AM
Now that I can get behind.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: VonMessa on April 22, 2009, 09:13:06 AM
Yellow stripe, huh?

For a rookie?

How original.

Wish NASCAR had thought of that one..............       :noid
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: MachFly on April 22, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
Id rather there be a training program that you would have to complete before being allowed to play on line.

You would rather be a program? I'm lost here.   :uhoh
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Cajunn on April 22, 2009, 11:46:18 PM
just like in Nascar where the rookies have to have red on the bumper  :aok :rofl
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Larry on April 23, 2009, 12:20:47 AM
You would rather be a program? I'm lost here.   :uhoh


I don't know what you are having a problem with. Maybe I can word it different.


I would like it so when you install Aces High II you would have to complete 'Basic Training' before you can access 'online mode'. So that when you sign up a computer can teach you how to do basic things like take off, landing, firing at a drone, bombing, rearm, driving a tank, etc. It would also keep the trainers in the TA free to train people on more complicated things like ACM.

Spend an hour or two a day in the TA and watch how many of the people asking how to do any of those things.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: MachFly on April 23, 2009, 12:34:27 AM
I would like it so when you install Aces High II you would have to complete 'Basic Training' before you can access 'online mode'. So that when you sign up a computer can teach you how to do basic things like take off, landing, firing at a drone, bombing, rearm, driving a tank, etc. It would also keep the trainers in the TA free to train people on more complicated things like ACM.
Oh...I see what your saying, probably a good idea to have a special basic training session available offline, but it should be optional.

Spend an hour or two a day in the TA and watch how many of the people asking how to do any of those things.
I don't have that much free time to just spend 2 hours a day watching how many people ask for help, and I don't really care, that's what the training are is for. Actually I don't have a problem with people asking how to do things in the main area, even I do that sometimes when I have to fly some unknown aircraft on a mission, are you going to tell me to go to TA and ask them?
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Nemisis on April 23, 2009, 06:02:34 PM
Stephen, I think you should really lower your standards concerning newbs, they are just begining to learn to play, many people are still learning when they have been playing for six months, maby not learning such basic stuff or learning as much, but still learning. Unless you were an ace the first time you ever played or at least in the first month then lay off the newbs,  And keep these guys off me is a pretty comon thing to say when there are enemy fighters around and you are moving at ten mph, or even if there are only tanks on shore. They might not know to weave back and forth to make aiming harder.
I saw a newb driving strait up to the beach, someone manning the .50 for all he was worth untill it ran dry then he switched to the .30, he even downed a couple of fighters with that pop gun. I <S> him, he has the agressivness that will make him a good fighter pilot someday.. I told him to zig zag to throw off the gunners aim and anothe newb blew up right next to him. He replied, "thank you sir, I owe you one. <S>", now tell me that's not someone we all can relate to at one point or another. :salute
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Die Hard on April 23, 2009, 06:28:47 PM
Well Nemisis, aren't you also a noob?
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Nemisis on April 23, 2009, 10:05:13 PM
No I have been playing for around 2 yrs now, just don't play all that much or to frequently, so more accuratly it would be like 1 yr. But I just started using the forum. And somehow my account got cancled around 6 month ago.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: MachFly on April 23, 2009, 10:09:10 PM
Well Nemisis, aren't you also a noob?

He siad he is not, but even if he was a noob, I agree withe everything that he said. Makes perfect seance.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: JunkyII on April 23, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
There is no need to put a scarlet "Newb" on any new players.  It is hard enough to learn this games ins and outs without a "kick me" note taped on your back.  Be as helpful and as courteous as possible to new players.  They may actually provide you a good future squaddie or a fun foe to fight!
Get them while they still can learn, the mind is like a sponge :D
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 24, 2009, 12:28:48 PM


Did you ever get killed by the same guy twice in a row? Take off fly for a few min, get shot down, take off fly for a few min, and get shot down again.
If not perhaps one of these kind gentleman would provide you with such an example.

Last time Stephen ran into me, I was making him do that repeatedly.  My impression afterwards was that he was a new player that got himself over his head by talking smack.


ack-ack


Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Nemisis on April 24, 2009, 04:45:49 PM
Last time Stephen ran into me, I was making him do that repeatedly.  My impression afterwards was that he was a new player that got himself over his head by talking smack.
LOL.
 
Get them while they still can learn, the mind is like a sponge :D
I agree, maby he sould have done that with Stephen :rofl
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: Penguin on April 25, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
I agree with Nemesis, because, I am that kind of a newbie.  I can barely do anything right and any help that I can get is appreciated.  Even though that I have been playing for at least 8 months, I can't do anything right. So don't expect us newbies to be amzing superstar pilots.  Because we're newbies, that's what we DON'T But what I can't stand are the newbies that have played for a very short time and start talking big, I mean, REALLY big (all caps, insults without ground, both in conjunction).  They give us well behaved newbies a bad name.  I agree with the orginal idea but only if only the Trainers and veterans capable of training are allowed to see it.  It's been many a time that I've seen newbies being harrased.  It just makes me SICK to see that, especially young newbies against older veterans.
Title: Re: Newbs
Post by: StokesAk on April 25, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
Think about this:
If we had no noobs there would be no easy kills, people would get mad.
If we didn't have Spitfire's the people that have trouble flying other planes would leave the game and make it fin for no one else.
If we didn't have people that made this game "worse" there wouldn't be a game at all.

Without them the world wouldn't go around.