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Title: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 22, 2009, 02:32:36 PM
Can anyone from HTC give me the formula or method in which Squad Rankings (especially Fighter) are figured?
I've always been under the presumption that they were done the same way as individual scores. Basically add up the individual rankings of each of the 5 categories and the lowest total number is #1. But apparently this is NOT the case. Please inform. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Bruv119 on April 22, 2009, 02:39:08 PM
I tried to figure this out shawk,   but then I thought I have better things to be worrying about  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Twizzty on April 22, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
We must have figured out the secret... :noid
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: MjTalon on April 22, 2009, 02:47:23 PM
Spanking the score hores is the formula to attaining the #1 squad ranking.  :devil
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Lusche on April 22, 2009, 02:51:00 PM
You're worried about Jokers currently being #1 in Fighter mode?  :noid :D




Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: B4Buster on April 22, 2009, 03:04:54 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Scotch on April 22, 2009, 03:25:42 PM
It was answered here:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,259220.0.html
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 22, 2009, 03:28:08 PM
I was gonna quote the exact code, but Scotch beat me to it.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: RELIC on April 22, 2009, 03:34:04 PM
I'm curious about this too.  All the sections, except fighter, seem to be calculated in the same manner as Shawk pointed out above.  I always try to note the top fighter squad stat breakdown in our monthly squad newsletter.  I don't mention any squad names but it's nice to see what kinda of numbers it takes.  Often the squad with the best overall Fighter rank clearly doesn't have the best rankings for the separate fighter sections.  I've even seen fighter rankings change months after the camp ended and those who were ranked "too high" get knocked down.
I've been hesitant to post about this for fear of it looking like a witch-hunt against another squad - there is enough unpleasant behaviour already on the boards.
So in fear of opening a can of worms, can someone share how this is calculated?  
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: StokesAk on April 22, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
Can anyone from HTC give me the formula or method in which Squad Rankings (especially Fighter) are figured?
I've always been under the presumption that they were done the same way as individual scores. Basically add up the individual rankings of each of the 5 categories and the lowest total number is #1. But apparently this is NOT the case. Please inform. :aok
Be a dweeb+pick+vultch+strat run+don't fight at all=#1
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 22, 2009, 04:49:31 PM
You're worried about Jokers currently being #1 in Fighter mode?  :noid :D

No, actually this has been screwed up for quite some time. I can give particulars if ya'll wish. I've seen WoT be scored as #1 in fighter before when by my calculations we should not have been. And Muppets should have been #1 Fighter squad on several occasions when they got shown as 3rd or higher.

Actually The Top 2 shown right now in fighter shouldn't even be in the top 5. Just an observation.
I guess my point is, if your gonna score something, shouldn't it be correct?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Lusche on April 22, 2009, 05:10:46 PM
Actually The Top 2 shown right now in fighter shouldn't even be in the top 5.

I would extend that to #3, but I'm biased...
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: pervert on April 22, 2009, 05:27:06 PM
It was answered here:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,259220.0.html

lol @ cabana boys  :lol :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: MstWntd on April 22, 2009, 06:18:55 PM
I guess my point is, if your gonna score something, shouldn't it be correct?
Well, either correct or shown how to calculate it.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: DMBEAR on April 22, 2009, 06:20:07 PM
I could get #1 on Galaga anytime I walked into Mama's pizza in Plano, TX back in the day.  I didn't need no stinkin squad ranking 4 that!  :P
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SEraider on April 22, 2009, 06:21:18 PM
I'm not worthy of this thread.  :cry  :frown:  :mad:  :furious
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 22, 2009, 10:53:35 PM
It looks right to me. The first four cats being averaged and overall points being cumulative... Jokers Jokers smoked your squad by more than twice the fighter points which more than makes up for the other cats they are weak in.

Sucks to be timid in fighter mode if you want #1 fighter rank as a squad!  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Shuffler on April 22, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
It's easy... you don't have to be good...... just learn to game the game.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 22, 2009, 10:58:22 PM
Haha I think its all about quantity over quality.  Oh yeah and SHawk didn't I see you at woodstock on Vh1? :uhoh
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 22, 2009, 11:14:16 PM
It looks right to me. The first four cats being averaged and overall points being cumulative... Jokers Jokers smoked your squad by more than twice the fighter points which more than makes up for the other cats they are weak in.

Sucks to be timid in fighter mode if you want #1 fighter rank as a squad!  :aok

DA?? :O

Besides being wrong as usual, you can't add either.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: rod367th on April 22, 2009, 11:58:18 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,263437.0.html
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: MachFly on April 23, 2009, 12:24:24 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,263437.0.html


So from reading your post I understand that to you bombing in the most important thing.
But what do you think about thous fighters that escort and protect the bombers? If it's a large mission, like the ones your talking about, like the ones that do a lot for your country, don't you think you would need fighters there to protect the heavy bombers?

Also what about thous fighter pilots that like going on missions, but don't fly bombers, like me. One of my favorite things about aces high is flying missions with my squad, by missions I don't mean only the ones that go NOE and capture an enemy town, I'm talking about where we have to fight our way though to get to the enemy CV and destroy it. I'm a fighter pilot and I believe shooting down enemy fighters is one of the most important things because your taking out the enemys who will shot down your bombers. Air Superiority is one of the most important factors and it is a fighter that will help you archive it. Don't get me wrong, i do fly bombers when needed, but from my point of view the fighters are much more important.


(sorry for posting something sorta of topic on this thread, just responded to his link because for some reason it limited me to 80 characters in that thread)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Bruv119 on April 23, 2009, 12:32:02 AM
when i was looking at it Shawk has a point, 

in the past, We have had MORE fighter points/kills,  better K/D, K/ps and hit % (basically all 5 categories)   yet still been ranked lower than others.   There has to be something a miss but no-one could come up with any hard facts or understanding with how it gets worked out.   

I put it down to trans atlantic point/score tax that always adds +20 places on The Few's squad score.  Kind of like a golf handicap.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: MachFly on April 23, 2009, 12:36:25 AM
when i was looking at it Shawk has a point, 

in the past, We have had MORE fighter points/kills,  better K/D, K/ps and hit % (basically all 5 categories)   yet still been ranked lower than others.   There has to be something a miss but no-one could come up with any hard facts or understanding with how it gets worked out.   

I put it down to trans atlantic point/score tax that always adds +20 places on The Few's squad score.  Kind of like a golf handicap.

yeah, he does has a very good point
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 12:45:46 AM
DA?? :O

Besides being wrong as usual, you can't add either.

TA because you need it. Continue with your challenge and I will state the terms and name the aircraft and conditions.

Now go back and do it the way I suggested and which I believe is right. Take each individual k/d k/s k/h hit% and average them. Im not going to take the time. It is possible that all the 0s from people not flying is screwing things up.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 01:26:43 AM

Sucks to be timid in fighter mode if you want #1 fighter rank as a squad!  :aok

You mean like 9 kills an hour timid? instead of 16 an hour? :rofl
And I've seen your score. Your uber at killing those defenseless buildings!

TA because you need it. Continue with your challenge and I will state the terms and name the aircraft and conditions.

LOL! I can see it now. 15K Typhoons or ponys in the DA.
How about best 3 outta 5 and loser of each match picks the ride. 5K merge with a 2K deck. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 01:53:47 AM
You mean like 9 kills an hour timid? instead of 16 an hour? :rofl
And I've seen your score. Your uber at killing those defenseless buildings!

LOL! I can see it now. 15K Typhoons or ponys in the DA.
How about best 3 outta 5 and loser of each match picks the ride. 5K merge with a 2K deck. :aok

All you care about is score.

A challenge isnt 'how about...' you either want to fight or you dont. You challenge me and I will set the conditions. If you dont challenge so be it.

I have already encountered you in the MA on many occasions and I have measured the quality of your turns and your ability to fight. Just saying...  :rofl

I think the one time you shot my m3 with your chog was really impressive... really.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: kilo2 on April 23, 2009, 01:54:03 AM
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/BloodyBandage/insp_fightmusic.png)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Roscoroo on April 23, 2009, 03:26:29 AM
Man You gotta do the Real thing ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U)

Muhahahahahaa.... "Shawk Nooooooooo "  Spock just needs a mullet..   :D

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: kilo2 on April 23, 2009, 03:41:35 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 09:56:34 AM
All you care about is score.

A challenge isnt 'how about...' you either want to fight or you dont. You challenge me and I will set the conditions. If you dont challenge so be it.

I have already encountered you in the MA on many occasions and I have measured the quality of your turns and your ability to fight. Just saying...  :rofl

I think the one time you shot my m3 with your chog was really impressive... really.  :rolleyes:

LMAO,
    You mean keeping you from capturing my base? I'm gonna take your statement as a no on meeting in the DA.
I've really gotta hear these so called conditions of yours for a Dual. Just to see if they were close to what I stated above. :huh

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: waystin2 on April 23, 2009, 10:02:39 AM
Man You gotta do the Real thing ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U)

Muhahahahahaa.... "Shawk Nooooooooo "  Spock just needs a mullet..   :D



Most intense fight scene ever! :aok :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 11:32:42 AM
LMAO,
    You mean keeping you from capturing my base?...

No I was resupply mine. You dropped 10k to shoot an m3 resupplying.  :rofl

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: JB11 on April 23, 2009, 12:14:55 PM
No I was resupply mine. You dropped 10k to shoot an m3 resupplying.  :rofl


Sheeesh!!! It's a simple yes or no question. DA or NO DA. Quit beating around the bush "Challenge".  :rock

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: NHattila on April 23, 2009, 12:38:34 PM
Does it really matter what the rank is? Most of us know that rank and skill are entirely seperate issues.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 23, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
Sheeesh!!! It's a simple yes or no question. DA or NO DA. Quit beating around the bush "Challenge".  :rock

 :salute 11


Will the DA fight change the way either of them plays?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: waystin2 on April 23, 2009, 01:44:53 PM

Will the DA fight change the way either of them plays?

Well if you look at from both the potential outcomes, factor in wind, figure in what either will gain from a win or loss, get signed pre-nups, run some simulations with various types of AI planes with varying loadouts...

No. :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: saantana on April 23, 2009, 01:49:17 PM
You guys just can't figure out why 308th is always in the top 5  :lol
Maybe they award points for consistency.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: JB11 on April 23, 2009, 02:02:41 PM

Will the DA fight change the way either of them plays?
You and I both know the answer to that, no.  It's their money, they'll spend it how they choose.
But, at least one put it on the table.  :aok

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Shamus on April 23, 2009, 03:01:21 PM

Will the DA fight change the way either of them plays?

No, but the weenie waving rights will be secured.

shamus
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: RELIC on April 23, 2009, 03:08:54 PM
Nice.  Another thread turned into an (off topic) flamefest. 
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: halo342 on April 23, 2009, 03:22:17 PM
Nice.  Another thread turned into an (off topic) flamefest. 

This is all I have to add to this thread (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 04:55:03 PM
Sheeesh!!! It's a simple yes or no question. DA or NO DA. Quit beating around the bush "Challenge".  :rock

 :salute 11

I have known for a long time you lack the brains to comprehend the written word but you must have read my response as a negative when in fact it was not. However you need to butt out.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 05:29:50 PM
No I was resupply mine. You dropped 10k to shoot an m3 resupplying.  :rofl



I have in FACT have never shot you in an m3. So your simply making stuff up at this point. And yes this can be verified, so do you have any other weenie trivia you would like to make up at this point? Besides not stating your duel parameters and conditions?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 05:36:11 PM
The Flamefest was expected, but yet I still don't have an answer to my question.
It also doesn't amaze me the number of so called "Score potatos" (overall or just fighter) who will pipe in and point fingers yet they themselves wouldn't be caught dead in the DA in a 1vs1 "fair fight"
I find myself in complete awe of their uber "talk but can't back it up" weenieness.
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 23, 2009, 05:37:12 PM
so do you have any other weenie trivia you would like to make up at this point?

Shawk.  I think you accidently posted this on the wrong board. This is AHII.  The Village People Forum is elsewhere.    :D     :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 05:37:45 PM
You guys just can't figure out why 308th is always in the top 5  :lol
Maybe they award points for consistency.

I figured they had a handicap added because they were a Polish Squadron  :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 05:40:04 PM
Shawk.  I think you accidently posted this on the wrong board. This is AHII.  The Village People Forum is elsewhere.    :D     :aok

Steve, I looked for it, but I think it might have been moved to the gay and lesbian rights site :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Baumer on April 23, 2009, 06:10:50 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/diedin.php?playername=Chalenge&selectTour=LWTour103&pindex=26 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/diedin.php?playername=Chalenge&selectTour=LWTour103&pindex=26)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 06:17:34 PM
The Flamefest was expected, but yet I still don't have an answer to my question.
It also doesn't amaze me the number of so called "Score potatos" (overall or just fighter) who will pipe in and point fingers yet they themselves wouldn't be caught dead in the DA in a 1vs1 "fair fight"
I find myself in complete awe of their uber "talk but can't back it up" weenieness.
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lets fight in the MA. P40Bs. I will find a suitable field to up from say... 2 sectors from any NOOBs that might come to help you. What do you say?  :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 23, 2009, 06:23:11 PM
Would you two quit fighting already!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 23, 2009, 06:25:30 PM
Some kind of allergy to the DA?  No interruptions there.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 07:29:52 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/diedin.php?playername=Chalenge&selectTour=LWTour103&pindex=26 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/diedin.php?playername=Chalenge&selectTour=LWTour103&pindex=26)

LMAO, your talking about 8 months ago? Holy crap!
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: texastc316 on April 23, 2009, 07:34:39 PM
now that's a grudge.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 23, 2009, 07:36:25 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/diedin.php?playername=Chalenge&selectTour=LWTour103&pindex=26 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/diedin.php?playername=Chalenge&selectTour=LWTour103&pindex=26)

WOW you pulled that out from the dust.. However, do you have an answer to the question at hand? As a staff memeber Im sure you could find out what the deal is.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
now that's a grudge.

I have a LONG memory just like another part of my anatomy (and it aint a mullet).  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: PFactorDave on April 23, 2009, 07:58:55 PM
I have a LONG memory just like another part of my anatomy (and it aint a mullet).  :aok

Fingers right?  You have long delicate, kind of girly fingers!   :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 23, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
I have a LONG memory just like another part of my anatomy (and it aint a mullet).  :aok

Are you going to man up and take that DA challenge or not. I find it ironic that your name is Chalenge and yet you have a hard time accepting one. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: crazyivan on April 23, 2009, 08:35:03 PM
Most intense fight scene ever! :aok :rofl
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O23EzxT-Ug
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O23EzxT-Ug

LMAO!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 23, 2009, 09:56:32 PM
SHawk don't worry about it.  Chalenge doesn't even own a weedeater  :aok  Only Time I've ever fought Chalenge he lost  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 10:03:27 PM
SHawk don't worry about it.  Chalenge doesn't even own a weedeater  :aok  Only Time I've ever fought Chalenge he lost  :aok

Worry?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: kilo2 on April 23, 2009, 10:34:43 PM
I put my money on Chalenge. And why not do it in the MA it would be no different than the DA. Unless SHawk is worried about his score or

the fact there will be a record of it for all to see.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2009, 10:42:53 PM
Are you going to man up and take that DA challenge or not. I find it ironic that your name is Chalenge and yet you have a hard time accepting one. :aok

Butt out noob.

SHawk the offer stands until the last day of the month. If you accept I will forward details.

Banshee it must have been very forgetable... please tell me what tour and what your handle was?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 23, 2009, 10:44:07 PM
I put my money on Chalenge.

you're on

And why not do it in the MA

And have to worry about someone interfering or one of them run all the way back to friendlies or ack?

Unless SHawk is worried about his score

While SHawk does play to get a good score, I highly doubt that he will "worry" about it.

the fact there will be a record of it for all to see.

 :noid

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 23, 2009, 10:47:25 PM
Banshee it must have been very forgetable... please tell me what tour and what your handle was?  :rolleyes:

Losers usually do forget  :aok



NOTE:  Why doesn't the Player vs. Player Kills stat page work?  Or is it operator error?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 23, 2009, 10:47:44 PM
Butt out noob.

SHawk the offer stands until the last day of the month. If you accept I will forward details.

Banshee it must have been very forgetable... please tell me what tour and what your handle was?  :rolleyes:

A simple yes or no to Shawk's offer to the DA is the only stand up response you can offer. Counter offers are just chickenpoop. Man up, Chalenge. If you go to the Da and lose... so what? If you avoid the direct invite by not giving a definitive answer, you are just being evasive and everyone sees it, no matter what you type.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Lusche on April 23, 2009, 10:49:52 PM
NOTE:  Why doesn't the Player vs. Player Kills stat page work?  Or is it operator error?

Operator error. It still works. Just do not sort any results.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 23, 2009, 10:57:56 PM
check PMs please
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 23, 2009, 11:14:37 PM
Butt out noob.

SHawk the offer stands until the last day of the month. If you accept I will forward details.

Banshee it must have been very forgetable... please tell me what tour and what your handle was?  :rolleyes:


Buddy..Ill own you in any plane any time..

BPARKER
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 23, 2009, 11:16:04 PM
Wow..after looking at Chalenge's stats for the past few tours..I truely hope that someday I can fly that timid...er I mean well.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Stang on April 23, 2009, 11:29:09 PM
Wow, I'm having some serious deja-vu here... Chalenge sounds and types just like someone who used to play here... no way it could be him, no way...

 :noid
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: kilo2 on April 23, 2009, 11:31:29 PM
All those things can happen in the DA banshee7. Chalenge put an offer out there. If shawk wanted to he could accept it so maybe there both

being evasive? I would like to see the "duel" to be honest and iam sure if it happened it would be recorded.  


Oh and whos BPARKER anyway never heard of him
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 11:53:29 PM
Wow, I'm having some serious deja-vu here... Chalenge sounds and types just like someone who used to play here... no way it could be him, no way...

 :noid

LMAO Stang, ya think? :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 23, 2009, 11:54:54 PM
A simple yes or no to Shawk's offer to the DA is the only stand up response you can offer. Counter offers are just chickenpoop. Man up, Chalenge. If you go to the Da and lose... so what? If you avoid the direct invite by not giving a definitive answer, you are just being evasive and everyone sees it, no matter what you type.

^^^----Why retype it. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: CDR1 on April 24, 2009, 12:40:45 PM
The original question is still valid, if we are going to have a score system then it should at least be understandable. I was in a squad that decided it wanted to be the top squad. One of the squad members chewed the scoring system over six ways to sunday and came up with a gameplay set of tactics that would increase everyone's score. Without any major increase in stick skills everyone in the squad got into the 100-to 300 range. There were a few more "tricks" which may have got the score into 50-100 range but to get any lower it became clear better skills were the only way. Any pilot scoring 1- 50 is just plain good at the game. Shawk has been on top for a long time, and having fought him a few times there is no doubt he has earned his spot. My score is not relevant to me because the way I enjoy playing doesn't fit with the scoring system.
Any good pilot can kill any other good pilot on any given day, so what? these cries of " I'll own you!!" are silly. If you want to kill Shawk then fight him and watch what he does, find the weakness and exploit it. Of course you will get killed a lot learning and screw up you score learning, but that is the price you pay!!!
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 24, 2009, 06:42:38 PM
A simple yes or no to Shawk's offer to the DA is the only stand up response you can offer. Counter offers are just chickenpoop. Man up, Chalenge. If you go to the Da and lose... so what? If you avoid the direct invite by not giving a definitive answer, you are just being evasive and everyone sees it, no matter what you type.

I second that!

BPARKER
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 24, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
I put my money on Chalenge. And why not do it in the MA it would be no different than the DA. Unless SHawk is worried about his score or

the fact there will be a record of it for all to see.

You're not a very good betting man are you?  I'm sure Chalenge thinks he's good but anyone that has run against him knows the only thing he knows how to do with any proficiency is run.  The term "Stealing candy from a baby" was probably coined by someone that ran into Chalenge and easily shot him down.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 24, 2009, 07:19:43 PM
Wow, I'm having some serious deja-vu here... Chalenge sounds and types just like someone who used to play here... no way it could be him, no way...

 :noid

Who?  I'm too old to play these damn guessing games  :furious


ack-ack
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 24, 2009, 10:12:37 PM
All those things can happen in the DA banshee7. Chalenge put an offer out there. If shawk wanted to he could accept it so maybe there both

being evasive? I would like to see the "duel" to be honest and iam sure if it happened it would be recorded.  


Oh and whos BPARKER anyway never heard of him

you haven't been around long, have you?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 25, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
Im bumping this to the top because we still do not have a resolution for this.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: stodd on April 25, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
This thread- +7 funny.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 25, 2009, 05:15:38 PM

Oh and whos BPARKER anyway never heard of him

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,230181.0.html
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 25, 2009, 05:47:20 PM

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,230181.0.html


See how I own Lyric1. And you can chalk another useless post to Lyric1.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 25, 2009, 05:56:07 PM
Talk is cheap.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 25, 2009, 06:17:51 PM
Talk is cheap.

Well, theres only 1 way to find out isnt there..However, I fear that Lyric doesnt have the nut sac to meet in the DA.
On a side note, he yet again has done his job spamming threads with his useless and off topic comments. I would suggest he go back to doing his door-to-door magazine subscription salesman job. It might be the most productive thing he does all day.

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 26, 2009, 03:48:21 AM
Pretty much everything I've seen posted by lyric has been polite and useful one way or another.  Like his excellent historical material.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Nilsen on April 26, 2009, 06:13:32 AM
wouldn't be caught dead in the DA in a 1vs1 "fair fight"

FYI its not a fair fight at all unless both players are in the same room with identical setups ;)


Player A has a good gaming rig with a nice monitor, pedals, joystick and throttle control.
Player B use a 15" laptop and mouse.

How would a duel between those two settle who is the better pilot?

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: The Fugitive on April 26, 2009, 08:32:09 AM
If Lazer was player B, I'd put money on him against almost any body as Player A   :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 26, 2009, 08:51:10 AM
If Lazer was player B, I'd put money on him against almost any body as Player A   :D

Yeah, and he uses a mouse LOL
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 26, 2009, 09:11:08 AM
This reminds me of my schools days when everyone formed a circle and started running their mouths to get 2 guys to fight.  :rolleyes:

I've flown with both these gentlemen in the past and it's always been alot of fun. The problem here is, Shawk and Chalenge are more alike then not, as far as the way they approach the game. Both are thinkers with exceptional skill and are extreme competitors.
Me being a rook and without a squad, I'll usually lookup Shawk on the map and go where he is because he's more then likely to be in the thick of things. He's a good leader and has a good eye of whats around him. But so does Chalenge.
Chalenge is a great guy too. One of the few in the game that gives me a call when I haven't been logged on in awhile.He's going for #1 this tour and I believe he is the 1st Sick Puppy to be this close to the rank in the overall. I wish him the best of luck in that and I'm rootin' for ya bro :aok
Both Shawk and Chalenge are, or have been in the past, a pleasure to fly with. I'd hate to see either one to have to lose a duel. Imo duels are silly and don't really prove awhole lot.
I can be spanked in the DA 10 out of 10 times, but in the MA I can hold my own against some of the best (i think) :uhoh.

My hat's off to both these guys! :salute
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 26, 2009, 09:27:04 AM
This reminds me of my schools days when everyone formed a circle and started running their mouths to get 2 guys to fight.  :rolleyes:

I've flown with both these gentlemen in the past and it's always been alot of fun. The problem here is, Shawk and Chalenge are more alike then not, as far as the way they approach the game. Both are thinkers with exceptional skill and are extreme competitors.
Me being a rook and without a squad, I'll usually lookup Shawk on the map and go where he is because he's more then likely to be in the thick of things. He's a good leader and has a good eye of whats around him. But so does Chalenge.
Chalenge is a great guy too. One of the few in the game that gives me a call when I haven't been logged on in awhile.He's going for #1 this tour and I believe he is the 1st Sick Puppy to be this close to the rank in the overall. I wish him the best of luck in that and I'm rootin' for ya bro :aok
Both Shawk and Chalenge are, or have been in the past, a pleasure to fly with. I'd hate to see either one to have to lose a duel. Imo duels are silly and don't really prove awhole lot.
I can be spanked in the DA 10 out of 10 times, but in the MA I can hold my own against some of the best (i think) :uhoh.

My hat's off to both these guys! :salute


Well uptown, this started off being a simple question I wanted an answer to. Then of course Chalenge had to start flappin his gums...So I called him on it, then of course he backed down. Typical. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: RELIC on April 26, 2009, 09:34:54 AM
So what are the chances we could get back to the original question?   ;)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 26, 2009, 09:53:08 AM
So what are the chances we could get back to the original question?   ;)

Probably slim
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: LLogann on April 26, 2009, 09:56:34 AM
It was so long ago, I don't think I even remember it......... :(
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 26, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
Pretty much everything I've seen posted by lyric has been polite and useful one way or another.  Like his excellent historical material.
Thank you & my thoughts in regards to you are the same.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 26, 2009, 11:43:16 AM
:lol  No way, I'm too much of a sucker for arguing and irreverence..
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 26, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
Well uptown, this started off being a simple question I wanted an answer to. Then of course Chalenge had to start flappin his gums...So I called him on it, then of course he backed down. Typical. :rolleyes:

You didnt like the answer you got? It must have struck a nerve.   :lol

Uptown I guess you missed us while we were flying rook last night when neither arena had any fights so we came over to help out. There are some great people on your side that I have never run into before but the eny kicked in. I will never understand why knights cant bring themselves to fly more than half a sector for a fight.  :rolleyes:

Cant quite get the stench of being rook to wash off...  :devil
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 26, 2009, 12:08:26 PM
You didnt like the answer you got? It must have struck a nerve.   :lol

Uptown I guess you missed us while we were flying rook last night when neither arena had any fights so we came over to help out. There are some great people on your side that I have never run into before but the eny kicked in. I will never understand why knights cant bring themselves to fly more than half a sector for a fight.  :rolleyes:

Cant quite get the stench of being rook to wash off...  :devil
chicks dig rooks  :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 26, 2009, 01:21:26 PM
.He's going for #1 this tour

Awesome! He can be top gamey stick for the tour.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: stodd on April 26, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Shawk's ok, Challenge is ok. But Billy Mays is better. :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Stang on April 26, 2009, 01:59:09 PM
Lazer sucks, everyone knows this. diddlying mouse dweeb.

 :furious

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: stodd on April 26, 2009, 02:04:35 PM
I use a mouse....
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 26, 2009, 10:40:18 PM
Awesome! He can be top gamey stick for the tour.

I actually had a reason for doing it (learning about score) and it does not have anything to do with the mullet.  :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 26, 2009, 11:23:14 PM
I actually had a reason for doing it (learning about score) and it does not have anything to do with the mullet.  :D

Aww dude, it's cool. Some people play for score.. I don't care. Sure the rank system is gamey, just look at Bparker's fighter rank: 10 hours, every kill in a perk ride.  That's all you need to do to be top fighter rank.  But it's not that big of a deal, unless you are vulching shades etc. Bparker is playing within the parameters of accepted gameplay, gameyness aside. I'm assuming you are doing the same.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 27, 2009, 12:16:37 AM
Aww dude, it's cool. Some people play for score.. I don't care. Sure the rank system is gamey, just look at Bparker's fighter rank: 10 hours, every kill in a perk ride.  That's all you need to do to be top fighter rank.  But it's not that big of a deal, unless you are vulching shades etc. Bparker is playing within the parameters of accepted gameplay, gameyness aside. I'm assuming you are doing the same.

First, this IS a game. Second, whats wrong with making kills in perk planes? And yes I only have  a few hours in fighters, so. If you look you'll see that I have many 100s of kills in 30+ ENY planes also, unlike you who only flies P51-Ds. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Masherbrum on April 27, 2009, 12:21:59 AM
Wait!   This is a GAME?    :devil

SHawk, we talked about this a bit in Dayton.   You and your squad mates will always be aces in my book.    :rock
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 27, 2009, 12:41:57 AM
Aww dude, it's cool. Some people play for score.. I don't care. Sure the rank system is gamey, just look at Bparker's fighter rank: 10 hours, every kill in a perk ride.  That's all you need to do to be top fighter rank.  But it's not that big of a deal, unless you are vulching shades etc. Bparker is playing within the parameters of accepted gameplay, gameyness aside. I'm assuming you are doing the same.

I vulched one time this tour from an F6F and it was the only kill that sortie in attack mode. All my fighter sorties (except two P51 sorties) have been Tempest or Typhoon sorties from a field under attack and a lot of those have been disappointing dweebs augering suicide porks.

I offered to take these two into the TA for some ACM training but they obviously dont need feel they need it.  :D
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Scotch on April 27, 2009, 01:46:44 AM
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Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 27, 2009, 01:52:41 AM
First, this IS a game. Second, whats wrong with making kills in perk planes? And yes I only have  a few hours in fighters, so. If you look you'll see that I have many 100s of kills in 30+ ENY planes also, unlike you who only flies P51-Ds. :aok

You didn't read where I said things like "It's cool"  or   "I don't care" ?   I merely used you as an example. You and I know all your fighter sorties were in perk rides. Those 30+ eny sorties are great, but they were in attack mode. We understand how it works. I wasn't being critical.  Like I said, just using you as an example since those stats are current and easy to see. I'm not saying you're a bad guy or not a good stick, just pointing out what is obvious to those who understand how the rank system works.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 27, 2009, 06:18:25 AM
What he's trying to say is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhSPCcvTiw)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 27, 2009, 07:04:24 AM
^^^^^^^^^^ Funny. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 27, 2009, 07:11:53 AM
Rank is for the unemployed! I'm off to work  :( :cry
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: PFactorDave on April 27, 2009, 07:34:54 AM
What he's trying to say is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhSPCcvTiw)

That's pretty funny stuff.  Those guys would have fit right into today's You Tube generation.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: JB11 on April 27, 2009, 12:39:02 PM
I have known for a long time you lack the brains to comprehend the written word but you must have read my response as a negative when in fact it was not. However you need to butt out.
The attempt of degrading my intelligence or integrity was pretty much a waste of your "valuable" time, seeing is you have plenty of it.  Somebody wake me when he finally makes a decision.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 :salute 11
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Bruv119 on April 27, 2009, 12:51:05 PM
I will be well impressed if chalenge beats shawk to overall number one,  199 hours is really good dedication to task!

I think I am the only guy in recent tour history to have totally out dweebed shawks stats in far less time played.  That is a testament to how clued up the mullet is with the scoring system.

back on topic so what is the squad fighter rank problem  answers on a postcard please  :)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Hap on April 27, 2009, 04:03:02 PM
the mullet

the fish or the goofy haircut?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 27, 2009, 05:39:30 PM
Only thing SHawk knows about score we dont is how to get his damage hit% to 3,000 in a vehicle.  The only thing I can think of is some sort of torpedo run on a

carrier, after it just popped and you waited for it???????? :uhoh :uhoh
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 27, 2009, 06:35:30 PM
Pt spawns to city?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Lusche on April 27, 2009, 06:40:20 PM
Rank is for the unemployed! I'm off to work  :( :cry

But... you already are... Uptown Top Ranking! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N2CiNXjX64)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 27, 2009, 06:52:38 PM
Isn't the punchiest GV projectile the 251's rocket?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 27, 2009, 06:54:47 PM
But... you already are... Uptown Top Ranking! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N2CiNXjX64)
:rofl omg thanks.......thanks alot !  :o
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 27, 2009, 07:05:08 PM
Only thing SHawk knows about score we dont is how to get his damage hit% to 3,000 in a vehicle.  The only thing I can think of is some sort of torpedo run on a

carrier, after it just popped and you waited for it???????? :uhoh :uhoh


I figured that out too and you can check my bombing % in GVs for midwar to confirm I got it right.  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: stodd on April 27, 2009, 07:25:51 PM
What he's trying to say is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhSPCcvTiw)
:rofl :rofl This made skimming threw 9 pages worth it.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 27, 2009, 09:36:21 PM
What he's trying to say is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhSPCcvTiw)

Another post from another smart mouth kid who i smacked down in the da in less then two turns because he was overconfident? :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 27, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
You didn't read where I said things like "It's cool"  or   "I don't care" ?   I merely used you as an example. You and I know all your fighter sorties were in perk rides. Those 30+ eny sorties are great, but they were in attack mode. We understand how it works. I wasn't being critical.  Like I said, just using you as an example since those stats are current and easy to see. I'm not saying you're a bad guy or not a good stick, just pointing out what is obvious to those who understand how the rank system works.

I understand exactly what you where saying? Is there some "Steve" approved fighter list that I should know about? You know, some list of aircraft that would be say..."non-gamey" in figher mode? Perhaps there is some manual somewhere that lest me know that I am in compliance with the currently accepted "non-gamey" standards.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 27, 2009, 09:52:20 PM
Another post from another smart mouth kid who i smacked down in the da in less then two turns because he was overconfident? :aok

really???  :huh
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 27, 2009, 10:00:23 PM
Isn't the punchiest GV projectile the 251's rocket?

Your getting warmer :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 27, 2009, 10:02:03 PM
I understand exactly what you where saying?


No you don't.  Or else you are just naturally a jerk. either way, piss off gamey boy.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 27, 2009, 10:08:14 PM
I will be well impressed if chalenge beats shawk to overall number one,  199 hours is really good dedication to task!

I think I am the only guy in recent tour history to have totally out dweebed shawks stats in far less time played.  That is a testament to how clued up the mullet is with the scoring system.

back on topic so what is the squad fighter rank problem  answers on a postcard please  :)

He'll have 225+ hours in by months end easily. I sure am glad I don't have that much free time on my hands.
And I could really give a care what his rank ends up being. The fact still remains that I own him in a 1v1 and he knows it. Why else would he avoid it. :huh

And yes, lets get back on topic...Whats up with the Squad ranking?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Masherbrum on April 27, 2009, 10:11:30 PM
He'll have 225+ hours in by months end easily. I sure am glad I don't have that much free time on my hands.
And I could really give a care what his rank ends up being. The fact still remains that I own him in a 1v1 and he knows it. Why else would he avoid it. :huh

And yes, lets get back on topic...Whats up with the Squad ranking?

Agree on all accounts.   
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 27, 2009, 10:12:55 PM

No you don't.  Or else you are just naturally a jerk. either way, piss off gamey boy.


Just making sure. Its all good.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 27, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
The only way i've figured out to get a decent vehicle damage hit % is to shoot 950 rounds into 4 buildings that are close together and then fire 1 rocket.  The

highest I ever got it up to though was 666.66% lol kinda wierd.  So uh whats your secret SHawk anything over 400% is fine but I whanna know how 3,000% is

achieved.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Lusche on April 27, 2009, 10:47:54 PM
So uh whats your secret SHawk anything over 400% is fine but I whanna know how 3,000% is achieved.

His premium subscription includes an additional damage multiplier.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 27, 2009, 10:50:59 PM
Just a little sidenote...I am responsible for SHawks current squad name =No Chalenge=

That is all  :lol
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 27, 2009, 11:06:45 PM
SHawk the last two times you and I have run into each other you ran home to momma. :aok I dont blame you though because I do the same thing when I am wounded except that one time I was wounded and decided to keep on fighting you anyway but you still ran and ditched at your fleet. You were not low on fuel or ammo but your fleet was about to spawn away. Really gutsy move.  :aok

You are misrepresenting the facts and since I had killed all five of your squaddies that you were using as bait you knew full well who you were fighting and still you persist on your smack talk. So now I am withdrawing my offer and you can keep on playing with your 'skills' just the way they are and you better hope next time we meet you have that ever present altitude advantage and five friends as bait. You need it.

And Banshee is right you are =No Chalenge=  :rofl

Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 27, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
The only way I've figured out to get a decent vehicle damage hit % is to shoot 950 rounds into 4 buildings that are close together and then fire 1 rocket.  The

highest I ever got it up to though was 666.66% lol kinda weird.  So uh whats your secret SHawk anything over 400% is fine but I wanna know how 3,000% is

achieved.
Here is a clue. Lets just say it is as lame as using GV'S for bomber captures.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 27, 2009, 11:18:58 PM
Another post from another smart mouth kid who i smacked down in the da in less then two turns because he was overconfident? :aok
:lol

The whole story was... Ta152 vs hog, 1 round.. and I flew the hog's game... and you came fractions of a second from eating tater.  You know as well as I and probably anyone with a clue that I'll wax you easily on even odds.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 27, 2009, 11:22:18 PM
Here is a clue. Lets just say it is as lame as using GV'S for bomber captures.

And the result of 'the test' I did:

(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/GV-Bombing.jpg)
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 27, 2009, 11:24:27 PM
:lol

The whole story was... Ta152 vs hog, 1 round.. and I flew the hog's game... and you came fractions of a second from eating tater.  You know as well as I and probably anyone with a clue that I'll wax you easily on even odds.

The whole story..You where too overconfident..You though you could kill me in any plane in your 152. You didnt want to fly anything else. You didnt want to hear a word from my mouth. YOu didnt want to come to an agreement on what to fly. You just kept telling me to "Up Punk". So I did. And you lost.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 27, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Holy Crap 7,600% thats retarded score in general sucks I just like to know how some things are done, you aint even gonna tell us?


P.S. Dont look at my GV rank and laugh about my last comment I only did it so FLK4 wouldn't be #1 lol
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: grizz441 on April 27, 2009, 11:29:05 PM
The whole story..You where too overconfident..You though you could kill me in any plane in your 152. You didnt want to fly anything else. You didnt want to hear a word from my mouth. YOu didnt want to come to an agreement on what to fly. You just kept telling me to "Up Punk". So I did. And you lost.


Well... m00t is better than me and I beat you 8-0 or something even odds but you did kill my 152 vs F4u4 like you did m00t. 
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: sunfan1121 on April 27, 2009, 11:30:26 PM

Kositc is a easy kill in the DA, all he does is a lame E merge, once you get co E he's done.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: moot on April 27, 2009, 11:43:10 PM
The whole story..You where too overconfident..You though you could kill me in any plane in your 152. You didnt want to fly anything else. You didnt want to hear a word from my mouth. YOu didnt want to come to an agreement on what to fly. You just kept telling me to "Up Punk". So I did. And you lost.

Try this... I don't have a history of talking smack I can't back up, and anyone who knows me even a little, knows that I can only get it up if there's some kind of challenge or excitement.. Fighting you is no excitement. Anyone who's run into you more than once or twice knows it. You run and cheap out any chance you get.  I flew the 152 because it's a challenge, and talked smack to try and get you to talk back so I could at least short circuit myself into keeping focus. 
If you're going to call something lame, at least get it right.  Like I said, even odds, you're toast.  If you're not amnesiac you ought to remember that's what happened everytime it happened in the MA. When you didn't run.

152 vs hog... One of the very worst turning planes vs arguably the easiest flap machine in the game.. And you still came inches from a couple of tater shots.  IIRC at least one shot didn't happen only cause I messed up the timing.  You flew right thru a 30mm solution.  I wasn't overconfident.. I know the 152 like the back of my hand, I know the hog pretty well, and I know where your "skill" stops.. I nailed the matchup.  Me in 152 vs you in hog is a damn good challenge.  That's the only way I was gonna get a kick out of dogfighting against a dweeb like you.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 27, 2009, 11:59:48 PM
Try this... I don't have a history of talking smack I can't back up, and anyone who knows me even a little, knows that I can only get it up if there's some kind of challenge or excitement.. Fighting you is no excitement. Anyone who's run into you more than once or twice knows it. You run and cheap out any chance you get.  I flew the 152 because it's a challenge, and talked smack to try and get you to talk back so I could at least short circuit myself into keeping focus. 
If you're going to call something lame, at least get it right.  Like I said, even odds, you're toast.  If you're not amnesiac you ought to remember that's what happened everytime it happened in the MA. When you didn't run.

152 vs hog... One of the very worst turning planes vs arguably the easiest flap machine in the game.. And you still came inches from a couple of tater shots.  IIRC at least one shot didn't happen only cause I messed up the timing.  You flew right thru a 30mm solution.  I wasn't overconfident.. I know the 152 like the back of my hand, I know the hog pretty well, and I know where your "skill" stops.. I nailed the matchup.  Me in 152 vs you in hog is a damn good challenge.  That's the only way I was gonna get a kick out of dogfighting against a dweeb like you.

Say what u you will...you and i both know that u challenged me to a da..I accepted. You lost. If you would like to do it over again I am willing if you can be civil..
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 28, 2009, 12:16:57 AM
Holy Crap 7,600% thats retarded score in general sucks I just like to know how some things are done, you aint even gonna tell us?


P.S. Dont look at my GV rank and laugh about my last comment I only did it so FLK4 wouldn't be #1 lol
Ok second clue then. He never fired a shot in said GV.  :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 28, 2009, 12:30:43 AM
Ok now i'm really confused its like he never fired a shot and somehow got that hit%.  Just like I pulled out and thats why there was almost a Belial Jr? :lol
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 28, 2009, 12:35:17 AM
Kositc is a easy kill in the DA, all he does is a lame E merge, once you get co E he's done.

We know how to solve that dont we! Im ready whenever you are son.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 28, 2009, 12:39:25 AM
OK now I'm really confused its like he never fired a shot and somehow got that hit%.  Just like I pulled out and that's why there was almost a Belial Jr? :lol
3RD Clue. Do you know how to do a bomber capture using a GV? Same principle.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 28, 2009, 12:43:11 AM
No actually i do not know how to do that, and people call me gamey! I need a 4th clue. :cry
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 28, 2009, 12:53:06 AM
Well... m00t is better than me and I beat you 8-0 or something even odds but you did kill my 152 vs F4u4 like you did m00t. 

Well, I die all the time. Somedays i win others it doesnt matter what i do..i die. Funny, I was just going to say how honorable you where in the DA. I remember when the DA was a Gentlemens game. No trash talk. Just two guys having fun. I've DA'd quite a few of your squad members, SkyRock, Mazz, Scotch, You, and others. I won some, and lost some. No need to point out here who one and lost. We all know what happend, and I film most of my DA matches. Truth be told it doesnt matter to me all that much, I just like the 1v1 matchup. But, lately its become a grudge match which i dislike. Thats why I only gave m00t 1 flight because he was more worried about trash talkin then having fun.

If m00t wants to be civil and have another go at it I'm ready. If SunsFan wants another go and he can be civil, I'm ready. If you feel like you need to give me another spanking, I'm ready. :salute
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Steve on April 28, 2009, 12:57:33 AM

Just making sure. Its all good.

Well you've outfoxed me because I'm confused.    :salute
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 28, 2009, 01:07:34 AM
SHawk the last two times you and I have run into each other you ran home to momma. :aok I dont blame you though because I do the same thing when I am wounded except that one time I was wounded and decided to keep on fighting you anyway but you still ran and ditched at your fleet. You were not low on fuel or ammo but your fleet was about to spawn away. Really gutsy move.  :aok

You are misrepresenting the facts and since I had killed all five of your squaddies that you were using as bait you knew full well who you were fighting and still you persist on your smack talk. So now I am withdrawing my offer and you can keep on playing with your 'skills' just the way they are and you better hope next time we meet you have that ever present altitude advantage and five friends as bait. You need it.


Well, guess what, I was bingo fuel and had like 60 50 cals left after killing your squaddie you left to die several times. You in FACT ran to ack on several occasions,  and when I did land "with no fuel" after watching you run for over 15 minutes, you were indeed smoking from my guns running away. You only turned around when I headed to my fleet.
Also I in FACT had "0" squaddies anywhere near me. So AGAIN your just twisting the truth.
Now, if we really wanna talk FACT's here...I'll post the entire film for everyone to see. Because I do in FACT have it. :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 28, 2009, 01:14:50 AM
No actually i do not know how to do that, and people call me gamey! I need a 4Th clue. :cry
De-ack a v-base/port/destroy town first then come in gv with troops. Let troops run tower(make sure you have time to select bomber) out then select bomber sit in plane & now you have a capture in a bomber. You don't think the guys with 20 or more bomber captures per month are using goons do you?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 28, 2009, 01:17:30 AM
De-ack a v-base/port/destroy town first then come in gv with troops. Let troops run tower(make sure you have time to select bomber) out then select bomber sit in plane & now you have a capture in a bomber. You don't think the guys with 20 or more bomber captures per month are using goons do you?

Lyric..your talking about base captures. Belial is talking about Hit% in a GV. Your confusing his drunken brain :lol
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: lyric1 on April 28, 2009, 01:54:38 AM
Lyric..your talking about base captures. Belial is talking about Hit% in a GV. Your confusing his drunken brain :lol
Yes I know what he means I was hoping he would figure it out. OK last clue. Same principle as I explained for a capture but some what reversed & add a target that pays the most divedends with the next to the biggest Punch a plane can carry. I don't think I can make it any easier short of step by step instructions.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Belial on April 28, 2009, 01:55:28 AM
Yes yes what Shawk said.  Oh yeah and Shawk next time your in the DA ask them if they want 1 finger, 2 fingers, SHawkem, or the crowd pleaser. :rofl







P.S. you will have to answer my question eventually.



Wait a second after reading lyrics post, do you drop the JU bomb, tower, then up a gv?
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: grizz441 on April 28, 2009, 02:04:35 AM
Well, I die all the time. Somedays i win others it doesnt matter what i do..i die. Funny, I was just going to say how honorable you where in the DA. I remember when the DA was a Gentlemens game. No trash talk. Just two guys having fun. I've DA'd quite a few of your squad members, SkyRock, Mazz, Scotch, You, and others. I won some, and lost some. No need to point out here who one and lost. We all know what happend, and I film most of my DA matches. Truth be told it doesnt matter to me all that much, I just like the 1v1 matchup. But, lately its become a grudge match which i dislike. Thats why I only gave m00t 1 flight because he was more worried about trash talkin then having fun.

If m00t wants to be civil and have another go at it I'm ready. If SunsFan wants another go and he can be civil, I'm ready. If you feel like you need to give me another spanking, I'm ready. :salute

My mistake for pointing anything out(was mistake on stats anyways, I know you won a couple), but I was trying to clue you in that m00t kills most in even duels.  Seems like you think you have something over his head and are the one fueling the fire.  But in this cartoon game, good fights heal all wounds and it's good to hear you are enjoying and wanting that more and more.  
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: uptown on April 28, 2009, 06:44:16 AM
nevermind  :lol
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Banshee7 on April 28, 2009, 03:40:37 PM
Every time I've fought BPARKER in the DA I've won  :D (more useless knowledge)


Chalenge, you, sir, are the one that is no challenge at all  :aok

SHawk....you own a weedeater so you're ok  :devil
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Kostic on April 28, 2009, 06:52:29 PM
De-ack a v-base/port/destroy town first then come in gv with troops. Let troops run tower(make sure you have time to select bomber) out then select bomber sit in plane & now you have a capture in a bomber. You don't think the guys with 20 or more bomber captures per month are using goons do you?
Theres another way to get a bomber capture :huh
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Scotch on April 28, 2009, 07:13:56 PM
Since I saw my name posted...Our 'duel' only went 3 rounds before Parker left. A hog, and two crappy planes that I don't remember.
He had me 2-1, and they were okay fights, but I don't consider it a duel. That's best of 5. Anytime you're up for it, let me know.  :salute
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Bucky73 on April 29, 2009, 09:20:42 AM
I have spent many hours chasing "chalenge" around these maps. :furious


Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 29, 2009, 09:35:55 AM
SHawk the last two times you and I have run into each other you ran home to momma. :aok I dont blame you though because I do the same thing when I am wounded except that one time I was wounded and decided to keep on fighting you anyway but you still ran and ditched at your fleet. You were not low on fuel or ammo but your fleet was about to spawn away. Really gutsy move.  :aok

You are misrepresenting the facts and since I had killed all five of your squaddies that you were using as bait you knew full well who you were fighting and still you persist on your smack talk. So now I am withdrawing my offer and you can keep on playing with your 'skills' just the way they are and you better hope next time we meet you have that ever present altitude advantage and five friends as bait. You need it.

Well, guess what, I was bingo fuel and had like 60 50 cals left after killing your squaddie you left to die several times. You in FACT ran to ack on several occasions,  and when I did land "with no fuel" after watching you run for over 15 minutes, you were indeed smoking from my guns running away. You only turned around when I headed to my fleet.
Also I in FACT had "0" squaddies anywhere near me. So AGAIN your just twisting the truth.
Now, if we really wanna talk FACT's here...I'll post the entire film for everyone to see. Because I do in FACT have it. :aok

http://www.boutiquecomputers.com/shawk/chalengeleavessquaddietodie.ahf

You Decide who's full of crap, Note the duration of time he sits in the tower because he's afraid to up. :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: LLogann on April 29, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
All of you people need to stop this craziness!!!  STOP giving away delicate information.  Half the group wouldn't even be able to know what to do with secret game info.

Theres another way to get a bomber capture :huh
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Masherbrum on April 29, 2009, 10:09:02 AM
SHawk the last two times you and I have run into each other you ran home to momma. :aok I dont blame you though because I do the same thing when I am wounded except that one time I was wounded and decided to keep on fighting you anyway but you still ran and ditched at your fleet. You were not low on fuel or ammo but your fleet was about to spawn away. Really gutsy move.  :aok

You are misrepresenting the facts and since I had killed all five of your squaddies that you were using as bait you knew full well who you were fighting and still you persist on your smack talk. So now I am withdrawing my offer and you can keep on playing with your 'skills' just the way they are and you better hope next time we meet you have that ever present altitude advantage and five friends as bait. You need it.

And Banshee is right you are =No Chalenge=  :rofl

 :huh   You aren't even remotely close to SHawk in terms of "skill". 

http://www.boutiquecomputers.com/shawk/chalengeleavessquaddietodie.ahf

You Decide who's full of crap, Note the duration of time he sits in the tower because he's afraid to up. :rofl

I watched it all.   Like the Tripl5 film, this one "delivers". 

 :rock
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 29, 2009, 10:32:04 AM
:huh   You aren't even remotely close to SHawk in terms of "skill". 

Get a clue.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 29, 2009, 11:40:17 AM
Get a clue.  :rolleyes:

He doesn't need a clue, he's got film footage :aok
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Becinhu on April 29, 2009, 12:04:38 PM
subscription to AHII $14.95
claiming someone is lame in game $0.02
having video proof...priceless
 :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: JB11 on April 29, 2009, 12:12:04 PM
He doesn't need a clue, he's got film footage :aok
<cricket> <cricket>
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: LLogann on April 29, 2009, 12:54:08 PM
I'm not taking the side of my countryman here, but...........

SHawk, you layed into him real nice, yet you couldn't score the kill.  PERIOD, that is that.  THis thread is cause you're mad.  BTW......  Was there an invisible cv out there?  Or were you dead stick?  Couldn't tell.

Chalenge had 4 kills and maybe a radiator or pilot wound.  SHawk would land too!  He didn't do anything SHawk wouldn't do.


And as for his squaddie's death....  That squadie did the same thing all those NO NAME WOT guys do.......... Protect #1 guy's score.  Yet, knowing popapup, I know he said "go land you fool" instead of what a WOT says....  "I'll protect your rank bro, go land"

And that was a pretty boring 16 minutes.... 1 ace and 2 clowns trying to capture a base......  Was that what I just watched?

Or was it 1 ace being abusive to a newb, putting him in an LVT and having him float along for 20 minutes......  45 minutes after you guys took town down.  Good leadership. 
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Chalenge on April 29, 2009, 01:44:13 PM
And here you get to see shawk in a similar shape but Co-E after (by his choice as I said before) he decided he needed help and tried to take the fight 2v2 and though I would leave too (since there is a wound involved) he does leave the 152 to die. By the way notice the bish that neither shawk or the 152 can kill is also heavy with ord.

http://www.4shared.com/file/102472054/ada3c3ab/SHawkBlooded.html

Keep backing your achilles and you will only find his heel.  :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: LLogann on April 29, 2009, 05:09:17 PM
I must apologize here......  In the previous reply, which is too late to modify, I implied that I'm poking fun at the sticks of the top 20-25.... Maybe 50.  (Maybe it's really just 2...... :lol)  I'm not.  2 days ago I was forty something for some unknown anomaly.   :D    I also poked fun at the squad formerly known as WingsOfTerror, a fine group of killers..... Good for you BParker, currently #1 fighter rank.  That also, sadly, was caused by the silly rumblings of annoying clients up and around and all about.  I'm sorry for that WOT.   :salute   

I'm just saying, it's a silly verbal(typed really) attack to throw out something like this when the same thing happens in EVERY squad, with every stick in it, from time to time.  And if you all just sit back for a second and dwell, you'll realize I'm right.  popapup is a fresh plane.  Put me in his spot, I'd do the same thing.  And so would you! (You All)  With a squaddie close to death, damaged to all heck and gone (SHawk caught him Real good), any of you tell me that you wouldn't try and get him/her out of there?  See what I mean? 

Anybody is going to go land a super damaged, probably PW'd plane when they have 4 kills, while flying at a friendly base.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 29, 2009, 08:00:31 PM
I'm not taking the side of my countryman here, but...........

SHawk, you layed into him real nice, yet you couldn't score the kill.  PERIOD, that is that.  THis thread is cause you're mad.  BTW......  Was there an invisible cv out there?  Or were you dead stick?  Couldn't tell.

Chalenge had 4 kills and maybe a radiator or pilot wound.  SHawk would land too!  He didn't do anything SHawk wouldn't do.


And as for his squaddie's death....  That squadie did the same thing all those NO NAME WOT guys do.......... Protect #1 guy's score.  Yet, knowing popapup, I know he said "go land you fool" instead of what a WOT says....  "I'll protect your rank bro, go land"

And that was a pretty boring 16 minutes.... 1 ace and 2 clowns trying to capture a base......  Was that what I just watched?

Or was it 1 ace being abusive to a newb, putting him in an LVT and having him float along for 20 minutes......  45 minutes after you guys took town down.  Good leadership. 

LLogan, Your clueless once again. This thread is about squad Rankings. The film was simply a response to Chalenges Lies. He Claims he sent me running home to momma. When in fact it was the other way around. And notice how he sits in the tower for 7-8 minutes after landing those 4 kills, waiting for me to go bingo. And Yes, I'll agree it's a very boring 16 mins of film. Note my fuel as I'm landing.
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: SHawk on April 29, 2009, 08:07:56 PM
And here you get to see shawk in a similar shape but Co-E after (by his choice as I said before) he decided he needed help and tried to take the fight 2v2 and though I would leave too (since there is a wound involved) he does leave the 152 to die. By the way notice the bish that neither shawk or the 152 can kill is also heavy with ord.

http://www.4shared.com/file/102472054/ada3c3ab/SHawkBlooded.html

Keep backing your achilles and you will only find his heel.  :rofl


LMAO, 9 secs of film footage? Why not show the whole thing? There is a Reason! :rofl
Title: Re: Squad Rankings
Post by: Masherbrum on April 29, 2009, 09:54:19 PM
LLogan, Your clueless once again. This thread is about squad Rankings. The film was simply a response to Chalenges Lies. He Claims he sent me running home to momma. When in fact it was the other way around. And notice how he sits in the tower for 7-8 minutes after landing those 4 kills, waiting for me to go bingo. And Yes, I'll agree it's a very boring 16 mins of film. Note my fuel as I'm landing.

I found the ack hugging he left out of his AAR more funny than anything else.