Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nemisis on April 24, 2009, 05:42:47 PM
-
I was reading that duce and a half post and that got me thinking about armored cars but since we already have one, I thought about jeeps and how we don't have a manverable amphibious vehicle. We should get the schwimshawagon, not sure how it's spelled but it is the German amphibious scout car, it could carry carry four people if I remember right, a drive, a machine gunner, and two pasangers. It would be more manuverable then any of those already in the game, it would be faster on land, and more manuverable. It would be good for river crossings as they can reach a base much faster then the LVT. or we could add the duck, not sure how it's spelled or what is't model number is. If you could, check it out and correct any of my mistakes plz.
-
It's called the Fahrvergnugen. :D
-
It's called the Fahrvergnugen. :D
i cant even sound either of them out
-
Someone has been playing Battlefield 1942 Secret Weapons :D
It's indeed the schwimwagen (swim-car), basically an ordinary kubelwagen with an propeller attached to the engine.
I'm not sure if they were ever used or how many there were produced. But it was a neat little invention :aok
-
kubelwagen would be a good addition as an axis jeep. schwimwagens werent used off carriers so wouldnt be appropriate for that usage, I suppose there might be some maps where a river crossing jeep might be useful?
the DUKW was like a wheeled version of an LVT, iirc less armour and armament, but faster over land.
-
of course they weren't used from carriers, the Germans had none, but still, you never know, they might have used them on carriers if they had any. And the DUKW would be a good idea too, thanks you guys. :salute
-
kubelwagen would be a good addition as an axis jeep. schwimwagens werent used off carriers so wouldnt be appropriate for that usage, I suppose there might be some maps where a river crossing jeep might be useful?
the DUKW was like a wheeled version of an LVT, iirc less armour and armament, but faster over land.
I always thought the DUKW was a 2.5 ton truck with a boat hull/gear
welded on it. The same way a GPA did with the 3/4 ton truck. The ironic
thing is that the NJ State Troopers used a DUKW on Lake Hopatcong about
2 miles from my house before I moved to Charlotte this March. Like a dope,
I never took a close look at it.
-
I always thought the DUKW was a 2.5 ton truck with a boat hull/gear
welded on it. The same way a GPA did with the 3/4 ton truck. The ironic
thing is that the NJ State Troopers used a DUKW on Lake Hopatcong about
2 miles from my house before I moved to Charlotte this March. Like a dope,
I never took a close look at it.
Want a good look at a DUK? Take a weekend trip to the Wisconsin Dells... They have DUK tours departing every couple of hours. Very scenic and all that, but even more interesting if you know what the DUKs really were...
http://www.wisconsinducktours.com/
-
Want a good look at a DUK? Take a weekend trip to the Wisconsin Dells... They have DUK tours departing every couple of hours. Very scenic and all that, but even more interesting if you know what the DUKs really were...
http://www.wisconsinducktours.com/
We have them too... I think... I see them driving around the road all the time, but I have never seen on in the water, and never seen any form of advertisement for them... it's kinda weird...
-
Friendly banter aside, what do you think of my idea, if we get it on carriers it will likely mean a lot more people have dry feet before the base is captured, and I have seen a suprising number of occasions in a map I forget the name of, where an amphibious jeep would have saved a lot of time in capturing bases, it's that one that looks a lot what you would think N. Germany might be in early fall, you know, the one with the greyish ground and small spread out lakes. Also I forgot for any one who has never heard of the schwimwagen, it is armed with a pasanger mounted mg42, so you got that thing goin at 1200 rounds a minute and you put enough lead in the air to kill someone even if you are a bad shot.
-
We have them too... I think... I see them driving around the road all the time, but I have never seen on in the water, and never seen any form of advertisement for them... it's kinda weird...
Did you see this photo from that site I linked? That's an entire flock!
http://www.wisconsinducktours.com/photo1.html
-
LOL, duckies!!! they are so cute, did you name them PFactor? But the duckie picture aside what do you think of using them off carriers, using the schwimwagen in the game, and my idea overall?
-
LOL, duckies!!! they are so cute, did you name them PFactor? But the duckie picture aside what do you think of using them off carriers, using the schwimwagen in the game, and my idea overall?
I'd like to see DUKs in the game... The Schwimminwagon seems somewhat less useful, and I can't see one coming off of a carrier.... But I'm all for new things being added to the game.
-
Friendly banter aside, what do you think of my idea, if we get it on carriers it will likely mean a lot more people have dry feet before the base is captured
if they werent used off carriers they wont get in, besides I seriously doubt they were rated for offshore work - what size swell would you want to tackle in one? plus they would only carry 3 troops and would surely be even slower than an lvt, and more vulnerable...
-
Did you see this photo from that site I linked? That's an entire flock!
http://www.wisconsinducktours.com/photo1.html
There's a company doing those duck tours in Boston as well. I've been on it, and it's pretty darn cool. It's very satisfying to see these old WWII workhorses being used and enjoyed by people in 2009.
As far as the schwimwagen goes, yeah it's too bad they were never used off carriers, but it would be kind of fun. They would still have to carry only 3 troops though, and be exceedingly weak and easy to kill, and maybe have at most an MG-34 or whatever for defense. Would be kind of fun though once you got ashore to go flying up toward the town at Kubelwagen speeds.
-
They can carry 3 troops, had an MG42, not a 34, and were actually faster in water than any vehicles but the pt boat. and yes it would be fun
-
It's called the Fahrvergnugen. :D
Sounds like the german version of the Oscar Mayer weinermobile
-
They can carry 3 troops, had an MG42, not a 34, and were actually faster in water than any vehicles but the pt boat. and yes it would be fun
I really doubt that they were ever used for beach landings, but I could be wrong. I always thought they were just like a Kunelwagon that didn't care if there was a bridge over the river, not a landing craft that could handle big ocean swells.
-
Sounds like the german version of the Oscar Mayer weinermobile
I remember that thing parked out in front of the Oscar Meyer factory in the '70s. Passed it when we went to see the Phillies play.
-
PFactor, you are right, they weren't used off carriers, THE GERMANS HAD NO CARRIERS IN THEIR NAVY. They could be used on land and the DUWK's could be used off the carriers, if they were faster in water then the LVT's or at least just as fast then it won't matter if they had less armor because their turret had a .50 similar to a tanks in the fact that it could rotate 360 degrees and so could defend against planes better. And the thret from shore wouldn't matter that much as the higher caliber guns could destroy an LVT to, so it would be like 1.5 times the amount of fire you have to worry about. And DUWK's could be used from land too, like an amphibious duce and a half. :salute
-
PFactor, you are right, they weren't used off carriers, THE GERMANS HAD NO CARRIERS IN THEIR NAVY. They could be used on land and the DUWK's could be used off the carriers, if they were faster in water then the LVT's or at least just as fast then it won't matter if they had less armor because their turret had a .50 similar to a tanks in the fact that it could rotate 360 degrees and so could defend against planes better. And the thret from shore wouldn't matter that much as the higher caliber guns could destroy an LVT to, so it would be like 1.5 times the amount of fire you have to worry about. And DUWK's could be used from land too, like an amphibious duce and a half. :salute
Well to be honest, as far as I know, Aircraft Carriers have never been used to launch landing craft in ANY navy.
-
What ever, I think you know what we are talking about, and the Italians did once I think, either that or it is some other country that is never in the news anymore. But serious, if you think it is a bad idea all around then say so, don't get stuck on this one thing that I hadn't thought of. So tell me what you think about the DUWK's and the schwimwagen being used on land and launched from a task group. Ok you know what, if we are talking about launching gv's to hit a beach just say they were launched from a tg.
-
What ever, I think you know what we are talking about, and the Italians did once I think, either that or it is some other country that is never in the news anymore. But serious, if you think it is a bad idea all around then say so, don't get stuck on this one thing that I hadn't thought of. So tell me what you think about the DUWK's and the schwimwagen being used on land and launched from a task group. Ok you know what, if we are talking about launching gv's to hit a beach just say they were launched from a tg.
Personally, I would love to have DUKWs in the game. I'm all for it! The Schwimminwagons are cool too. I'd love to see them in the game also, but like Jeeps, I expect they would get minimal use.
-
I agree, the jeep is under used, it is fast light, but is under armored. I think it would be used more if it were able to be used with a formation of 3 or 4 preferably 4 so you can take a base even if 2 get killed or injured and you won't need two drivers, it can only carry 3 troops, I think that is the main reason.
-
http://www.bostontours.us/tours/tourDetail.cfm?tour_id=334 (http://www.bostontours.us/tours/tourDetail.cfm?tour_id=334) the boston ducks are better scrool to bottom to see pics
-
http://www.bostontours.us/tours/tourDetail.cfm?tour_id=334 (http://www.bostontours.us/tours/tourDetail.cfm?tour_id=334) the boston ducks are better scrool to bottom to see pics
I got to drive one of those in the water for a few minutes as a little kid. I don't remember it, lol, but apparently there are pictures somewhere.
-
ill be honest i went in 6th grade with my school im in 8th it was 2 years ago i didnt wanna drive, i might have hit something!