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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: soda72 on April 27, 2009, 06:36:00 PM
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Well that didn't take long. They just barely decided blu-ray is the way to go and now GE introduces new tech.
:rofl
Optical disc offers 500GB storage
GE believes it will take off because players can be built which are backwards compatible with existing DVD and Blu-ray technologies.
Blu-ray discs, which are used to store high definition movies and games, can currently hold between 25GB and 50GB.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8021012.stm
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That'd be right.... the first entertainment system I really sink some cash into and it's bloody done like Christmas dinner within 12 months.
:furious
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Not worried. The industry have spent so much on making BR the new standard so it will be.
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It's not like you need 500 gigs to store one HD movie. You don't even need the 50 that BR's got. Would be great for data storage and backups though.
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Thats great. Thanks soda, you just burst my bubble. :mad:
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It is just in the labs at this point.
However, it could take over Bluray if GE is smart and keeps the licensing costs to a minimum. Then again, it still will not solve the DRM implementation with HD content, which is a huge part of the cost involved with HD.
On the other hand, it could allow small production companies to get into the HD content market. Right now, they are shut out of the BluRay market due to the very high costs to produce the master for production.
If the small production houses forego HDCP and other DRM garbage, the media costs would drop substantially. The HDCP key alone costs $25,000.00 a year to rent.
It would not hurt my feelings to see BluRay and HDCP (yet another monopoly) fail.
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How long till this becomes a reality:
Production
Data crystals can be made from existing crystal or from synthesized material. Most common are synthesized crystals. Synthesized crystals, once finished, are harder than diamond and have extreme heat and cold resistance. Any of today's data crystals could be left in nearly any environment and recovered centuries later, working just as well as day one.
Synth data crystals can be produced in one of two ways.
Sheets of synthesized crystal can be manufactured to as small as a micron width. These sheets are very fragile and easily crushed, and therefore must be handled in Zero-G environments. The sheets are embossed by laser in molecular-level, complex patterns and then "folded" upon themselves and hardened to make a data crystal.
Another method is to synthesize a flawless crystal and use lasers and micro-gravimetric manipulators to encrypt the crystal from the outside.
The Minbari a known for having the most advanced data crystals of the younger races, in part due to their world having such an abundance of crystal.
How it Works
Crystal-ports on computers use refracted light and lasers to access the information. All information is taken off the crystal in a mathematical form, allowing it to be accessed by any well-programmed device with the proper clearances. The computer translates these formulas into images and sounds.
Capacity
Most high-end data crystals have a capacity of 500,000 terabytes and transfer-rate of 50 gigabytes per millisecond. :O Allowing for enormous files, and very quick transfer. This large capacity also allows for advanced encryption for security or holographic imaging.
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What a crazy world we live in.
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Now....if someone could cure a cold we'd be set.
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Interesting, I remember back a few years hmmm around 2001 I was working at a very high end home theater company. We created home theater systems and also integrated phone "key" systems with it (thats what i specialized in). Anywho I remember reading a industry insider magazine article about a group of scientists that started a company and had developed these "holographic" discs and equipment to read/ write.
I'll have to do a lil research and see if I can dig up the name.
They claimed at the time to be able to use a 5-7layer disc to record data. approx 500gbs and that was in 2001! The only reason i remember the year was because I remember it being just before 9/11 that i read it.
EDIT: still looking, haven't found it :mad: My OCD is acting up currently so I MUST keep searching!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHH
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How long till this becomes a reality:
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When I was looking at and researching emerging computer technologies I read some interesting information on the direction diamond synthesis is going. The technology that GE developed was further refined (through patent infringment) by the Koreans who have now figured out how to develop diamonds as crystalline 'pathways' through a seeding process and by mixing boron with the structures prior to crystalization they can in effect create superconducting pathways. Obviously the technology is just emerging but with a superconducting diamond pathway within electronic circuits the throughput gain would be astronomical if not limitless. Pure fantasy at this point and who knows if the technology is ever refined but it is fascinating to think what could happen.
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At this point, I'm guessing any system that requires physical media for delivery of content has a pretty short shelf-life.
Unless, of course, the cable companies get their way and start charging exorbitant per-usage internet rates.
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When I was looking at and researching emerging computer technologies I read some interesting information on the direction diamond synthesis is going. The technology that GE developed was further refined (through patent infringment) by the Koreans who have now figured out how to develop diamonds as crystalline 'pathways' through a seeding process and by mixing boron with the structures prior to crystalization they can in effect create superconducting pathways. Obviously the technology is just emerging but with a superconducting diamond pathway within electronic circuits the throughput gain would be astronomical if not limitless. Pure fantasy at this point and who knows if the technology is ever refined but it is fascinating to think what could happen.
Sounds similar to a few sci-fi shows, doesn't it? ;)
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This is 10 years minimum from being "mainstream", if it is at all. HD-DVD had more pluses going for it than Blu-Ray and lost out.
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This is 10 years minimum from being "mainstream", if it is at all. HD-DVD had more pluses going for it than Blu-Ray and lost out.
HD-DVD - M$ backed initiative
Blu-Ray - Sony backed initiative
Honestly which of the two is the "lesser" of two evils??? You see even though Microsoft had a better thing they got shoved away from the table because of who they are and what the perception of their "technical" ideas are...at least that is my opinion. Not because BR is a better tech but simply people chose the lesser of two evils.
GE vs Sony...who has more money in this setup? Probably GE... Now who has the ability to either manufacture or partner with someone in order to accomplish their goals at a lower cost? Probably GE... Now who will win? Who knows...we just have to wait and see. My money is on GE in the long run on this one.
I still want someone to build a holocron though so I can program it to speak to my descendants and show them how stupid we all looked with our "high tech stuff" that we watched pron with. :D
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In the end, the winner is decided by the movie industry. Bluray won because it was perceived by Hollywood to be more secure.
No matter how good a format is, if the studios do not get behind it, it will fail.
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<<<< still buys DVDs. No reason what so ever to get bluray. I was shocked that the less expensive to manufacture HD-DVDs did not win out.
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In the end, the winner is decided by the movie industry. Bluray won because it was perceived by Hollywood to be more secure.
No matter how good a format is, if the studios do not get behind it, it will fail.
Im pretty sure Playstaion played an important role as well with bringing blueray to "mainstream" before MS got their silly external drive for the xbox.
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<<<< still buys DVDs. No reason what so ever to get bluray.
Well, if you're not into HD...
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<<<<< Buys everything on BR and absolutely loves it.
Casino Royale on BR is stunning.
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Band of Brothers is also stunning. Plus if you are into the SciFi series Firefly and the Serenity movie, those were fantastic too! :aok
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Yes! Band of Brothers! Absolutely excellent.
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I'll never support Bluray. Maybe I should say, I will not support being treated like a criminal.
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Yep me neither. OTOH I don't even have time anymore to watch movies - or the desire to do so in general.
I have my projectors, home theater amps etc. collecting dust I havent opened them for 5 years. Dunno even if they work anymore.
I'm either in front of a computer (playing or reading the news) or watch Eurosport on our 10 year old SD tube tv that works perfectly for the job.
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I have my projectors, home theater amps etc. collecting dust I havent opened them for 5 years. Dunno even if they work anymore.
I'm either in front of a computer (playing or reading the news) ...
Why don't you hook up that home theater system to your computer. Playing games on a 106 inch screen with surround sound while sitting comfortably in a lazyboy is noting short of awesome.
Thrust me.
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Why don't you hook up that home theater system to your computer. Playing games on a 106 inch screen with surround sound while sitting comfortably in a lazyboy is noting short of awesome.
Thrust me.
Even though I have a 2-story house it's wooden construction so I couldn't do it without disturbing the rest of the family. So I use headphones while gaming.
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Build yourself a basement "theater" with sound insulation. Invite your wife and kids down once in a while for a movie with snacks and pizza and they'll thank you for it. ;)
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Build yourself a basement "theater" with sound insulation. Invite your wife and kids down once in a while for a movie with snacks and pizza and they'll thank you for it. ;)
I have a separate garage building with 215 sq ft vacant heated space that I'm going to build for HT and gaming use. But it's currently stripped with no walls etc..
And I have no time. Too much work.
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And I have no time. Too much work.
QFT :mad:
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I'll never support Bluray. Maybe I should say, I will not support being treated like a criminal.
Agreed
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<<<< still buys DVDs. No reason what so ever to get bluray. I was shocked that the less expensive to manufacture HD-DVDs did not win out.
One problem with HD-DVD was the hardware wasn't supported by different vendors, Toshiba didn't license the technology. If you wanted a HD-DVD player you pretty much had to buy a Toshiba, or get the add-on for the xbox.
All in all I pretty much hate how HD content is being handled, and I loathe HDMI, Skuzzy hit the nail on the head. I don't want to support a format that treats it's users like criminals.
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I'm not too familiar with the advanced disk playback devices. Could any of you elaborate on what is treating you like a criminal and how?
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I think they are talking about the Region codes which can prevent certain areas from using a blu-ray disk that is not ment for their region.
The wiki site has a section on it..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
I guess it also employs several layers of DRM
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just can not keep up with the new stuff these days :aok
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Blu-Ray never interested me for entertainment purposes. The only interesting aspect about it, to me, was its storage capacity.
Thanks for the information Soda.
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500GB? I have 5TB:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_optical_data_storage