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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CptTrips on May 19, 2009, 11:33:08 AM
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WTF? Is there some kind of ammo shortage?
I cruized by the local Bass Pro to pickup some .45 cal to plick this weekend and the shelves were freakin empty. Local Wallyworld was out too. Not just .45 but looks like most of the popular handgun flavors.
Does somebody know something I don't? Should I pack a bug-out bag???? :huh
(Guess I'll be shooting my .22 at least),
Wab
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Yep, I was at the Academy Outdoor shop in McKinney on Sunday and all they had was .22 short and .44 mag. Nothing in between. I used to squeak about the price of .357 sig ammo. Now I'd be happy to over pay for it lol. I hear that they've been able to keep up down at Carbella's, but I don't feel hiking all the way out to Ft. Worth.
-Sik
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you guys are seriously wondering why people have been soaking up all the available shelf ammo for the past 5 months?
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you guys are seriously wondering why people have been soaking up all the available shelf ammo for the past 5 months?
Well, I knew gun sales were up, but I didn't realize you'd not be able to get ammo! I mean the election was 7 months ago, I would have thought the supply chain would have caught up by now. Jeeze.
Wab
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you guys are seriously wondering why people have been soaking up all the available shelf ammo for the past 5 months?
No, like Wab said, I figured supply would catch up to demand.
-Sik
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Forget about 7.62x39...
It went from cheap and plenty to expensive and non-existent. I received a case on election day last year for 200 Shipped. Now its approaching 300 or more! When you can find it of course.
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I'm happy that there is such a demand, it means people are spending money.
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This is ooollllldd. Something about troops using it somewhere....
Like trying to buy plywood in Pittsburg when there's a hurricane approaching Florida.
wrongway
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This is ooollllldd. Something about troops using it somewhere....
Like trying to buy plywood in Pittsburg when there's a hurricane approaching Florida.
wrongway
If you are refering to the 7.62, you are correct.
I do not believe that is the cause of the .45/.357/9mm cal shortage. I think people are hording those only since the election. I have been buying .45 before the election just fine, and we've been at war since 2003.
Regards,
Wab
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Super 1050?
Can you say a 1000 rounds an hour?
What ammo shortage?
(http://www.eguns.com/sPearCat/1-4.woa/1/sd/eguns/Catalog/item-DL1050//English/Image/Super1050.jpg)
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Military is soaking up a lot of the better Ar15s in 308 along with the shells. If you put your name on the list you can still get one eventually with shells. As for shortages of other guns and ammo it is all because of the poor state of our government and the direction it is heading at this point.
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You'd think so, but there is actually quite a bit of celebration over this sad fact in certain quarters. And its not "yippee, we're disarming drug dealers!" either. It is more like "yipee, we're sticking it to those G&g clinging rednecks".
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What is happening is this, the gov't is buying so much ammo due to the wars, that ammo manufacturers are switching over production to military ammo manufacturing as the profit margin is great filling gov't contracts than it is selling in the retail market. So, they are going for the profit, understandably as they are a profit seeking industry.
By the way, if this ammo shortage is new to you, all I can say is "welcome to March, 2009 when most people were discovering it. If you really want ammo, you can get it on gunbroker. Most online ammo sales companies are sold out of the popular pistol cartridges.
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I just wish everyone would stop freaking out like the damn zombies are coming so I could buy some cheap ammo!
:rolleyes:
And maybe that's next... Once the guys freaking out are well supplied, I shouldn't have much trouble finding the basic stuff I want on the shelves again. And, since everyone's well supplied, demand will be lower than normal, which should make prices fall...
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What is happening is this, the gov't is buying so much ammo due to the wars, that ammo manufacturers are switching over production to military ammo manufacturing as the profit margin is great filling gov't contracts than it is selling in the retail market. So, they are going for the profit, understandably as they are a profit seeking industry.
By the way, if this ammo shortage is new to you, all I can say is "welcome to March, 2009 when most people were discovering it. If you really want ammo, you can get it on gunbroker. Most online ammo sales companies are sold out of the popular pistol cartridges.
Ah. That makes more sense. I didn't think about them switching over the production lines.
Yeah, I guess I'm out of the loop. I had enough stashed and I've been so busy with work (no time for shooting) that I'm just now running low and needing resupply.
:salute,
Wab
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By the way, if this ammo shortage is new to you, all I can say is "welcome to March, 2009 when most people were discovering it. If you really want ammo, you can get it on gunbroker. Most online ammo sales companies are sold out of the popular pistol cartridges.
The war and the military ammo demand has been going on for several years. We have only recently in the last year seen an dramatic increase in civilian costs of both guns and ammo.
I still think the number one driving force is plain old supply and demand. There are simply a lot of people out there thinking the government is going to take away their guns or something and are just stocking up on everything they can get their hands on.
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The war and the military ammo demand has been going on for several years. We have only recently in the last year seen an dramatic increase in civilian costs of both guns and ammo.
I still think the number one driving force is plain old supply and demand. There are simply a lot of people out there thinking the government is going to take away their guns or something and are just stocking up on everything they can get their hands on.
I am sure supply/demand is playing a part, since now, when ammo does come in at a supplier, people will horde what arrives rather than just buying the one or two boxes they normally would buy. On top of that, gun sales have gone out of sight since January, and with all the new guns, and for that matter gun owners out there, demand was sure to increase. But, industry experts have explained the military/gov't sales profit situation on many gun boards. Old stocks drying up, new ammo needed to restock. It will of course also effect the world wide availability of mil surp ammo.
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Super 1050?
Can you say a 1000 rounds an hour?
What ammo shortage?
(http://www.eguns.com/sPearCat/1-4.woa/1/sd/eguns/Catalog/item-DL1050//English/Image/Super1050.jpg)
What are you using for Primers? Hopes and dreams?
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Maybe they should hint at possible efforts to ban American made cars. :D
Winner!
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Maybe they should hint at possible efforts to ban American made cars. :D
Hehe! I like it!
I'm actually kind of glad the ammo thing doesn't affect the guns I shoot the most, or at least won't for quite some time. I don't use primers, I have enough powder for quite some time (and could make more if I had to, but hope I never need to...) and have enough lead to cast my own projectiles for ten or more years. And if I figure in my current supply of cotton canvas, and my 20lb of flint, I'm pretty well set.
I guess I could buy a bag of shot. But then again, there is a guy down the road who makes his own...
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Yep, I was at the Academy Outdoor shop in McKinney on Sunday and all they had was .22 short and .44 mag. Nothing in between. I used to squeak about the price of .357 sig ammo. Now I'd be happy to over pay for it lol. I hear that they've been able to keep up down at Carbella's, but I don't feel hiking all the way out to Ft. Worth.
-Sik
theres a cabellas in buda
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Maybe they should hint at possible efforts to ban American made cars. :D
Umm... "They" just did, yesterday. 35.5 average MPG with the original "impossible" deadline moved up an additional few years.
On a related note, Ford recently discovered the secret to making fuel efficient engines - turbocharge a lower displacement engine and give it a snazzy marketing name. No kidding. They're bragging about how V8s are so ancient technology, their new high tech 4 and 6 cylinders will make the "same" horsepower with half the displacement because they're using this newfangled gadget called a turbocharger.
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Umm... "They" just did, yesterday. 35.5 average MPG with the original "impossible" deadline moved up an additional few years.
On a related note, Ford recently discovered the secret to making fuel efficient engines - turbocharge a lower displacement engine and give it a snazzy marketing name. No kidding. They're bragging about how V8s are so ancient technology, their new high tech 4 and 6 cylinders will make the "same" horsepower with half the displacement because they're using this newfangled gadget called a turbocharger.
That's just a hoot! lol
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On a related note, Ford recently discovered the secret to making fuel efficient engines - turbocharge a lower displacement engine and give it a snazzy marketing name. No kidding. They're bragging about how V8s are so ancient technology, their new high tech 4 and 6 cylinders will make the "same" horsepower with half the displacement because they're using this newfangled gadget called a turbocharger.
And there is absolutely no downside to using a turbocharger in terms of complexity/reliability? :huh
Hint: Those of us who like Ford trucks, it isn't about being the most fuel efficient or having the most power...it is about turning the key on and having the thing run, day after day, through all sorts of abuse, for hundreds of thousands of miles.
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If you are refering to the 7.62, you are correct.
I do not believe that is the cause of the .45/.357/9mm cal shortage. I think people are hording those only since the election. I have been buying .45 before the election just fine, and we've been at war since 2003.
Regards,
Wab
I bought all the 7.62x39, 9mm, and .45 cal I could find months ago. The shelves have been bare for a few months Wab. I stopped plinking to make sure I kept a healthy reserve until availability picks up.
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I read a neat little forum for SKS rifles called Survivors SKS Forums. A couple people there seem to think there will be a huge wave of MilSurp 7.62x39 coming soon, which should drive the prices back down to $150/1000.
Hopefully it will come down soon.
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Big5 and sportsman warehouse were i am are almost completely sold out of ammo
-BigBOBCH
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As strange as it is all local Wal-Mart's, Bass Pro and Academy in the Norman/OKC area are out of almost all pistol ammo for 9mm, .40, and .45. I went to buy some .45 rounds today and couldn't find squat.
I knew that .223 was getting scarce due to the military demand but pistol ammo? :uhoh
Yikes!
Good thing I have plenty of everything else.....
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Hmm...
Maybe i should start a factory in mexico to feed the us market. Sounds like feeding the ammo addiction may be better business than drugs soon :D
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As strange as it is all local Wal-Mart's, Bass Pro and Academy in the Norman/OKC area are out of almost all pistol ammo for 9mm, .40, and .45. I went to buy some .45 rounds today and couldn't find squat.
I knew that .223 was getting scarce due to the military demand but pistol ammo? :uhoh
Yikes!
Good thing I have plenty of everything else.....
Same here, Sooner. Another anecdotal example: a friend went on-line looking for 38 Special ammo a couple weeks back. A Google search turned up over a dozen on-line ammo sources. Every single one was out of stock; the expected in-stock date, for those that listed one, were several two to three months out.