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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Banshee7 on May 20, 2009, 08:46:08 PM
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Ok, I know there are lots of X52 owners out there. As some of you said owners might know, the X52 tends to lose calibration...a lot (some have never had problems, some are like me..feels like every 10 minutes I'm recalibrating.) Usually it happens when the stick is being used a lot (lots of input like during a fights, etc.) My question is: How come whenever you tell someone that your stick lost calibration after a fight or something they always assume you are lying and making excuses? I personally take offense to being called a liar, others probably wouldn't care. But what inclines them to think that you are?
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Banshee7
POS X52 owner
NOTE: Flaming will not be tolerated in this thread..the rules say so :)
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Where'd you get your X52? I got mine at Best Buy, and when it started acting up they gave me a new one, no questions asked.
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I don't have many calibration problems with my x52. I do have issues with the cord going into the throttle coming loose thus making the stick turn off (normally in the middle of a white-knuckle fight). And if your stick really lost calibration then the pileit who shot you down would have no claim to pwning you... :noid
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As an X52 owner, I will take you at your word that it loses calibration. Mine usually acts up about once a week.
Coogan
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Ok, I know there are lots of X52 owners out there. As some of you said owners might know, the X52 tends to lose calibration...a lot (some have never had problems, some are like me..feels like every 10 minutes I'm recalibrating.) Usually it happens when the stick is being used a lot (lots of input like during a fights, etc.) My question is: How come whenever you tell someone that your stick lost calibration after a fight or something they always assume you are lying and making excuses? I personally take offense to being called a liar, others probably wouldn't care. But what inclines them to think that you are?
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Banshee7
POS X52 owner
NOTE: Flaming will not be tolerated in this thread..the rules say so :)
LOL get over it, it's a game :)
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I stopped using mine because it would go off calibration every day.
Also I had to calibrate it everytime I started Aces high. It would spike horribly even when calibrated. I hear you need a powered USB hub for it... but right now I have a saitek cyborg X which .. surprisingly is very smooth and never goes off calibration. id use it with the x52 throttle but I forgot it in Sweden.
LOL get over it, it's a game :)
says the biggest whiner in the whole game.
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My question is: How come whenever you tell someone that your stick lost calibration after a fight or something they always assume you are lying and making excuses? I personally take offense to being called a liar, others probably wouldn't care. But what inclines them to think that you are?
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Banshee7
POS X52 owner
Human Nature. If you lost at something, the first act is to make an excuse, normally. Even if the 'excuse' is legit they will take it as "Oh it was because of so and so" and think you are a sore loser, thus make up excuses.
I know how sticks can lose calibration mid-flight, it's rare but I normally get a "I understand" back. Presentation is also one reason they may accuse you. If you die and instantly state "Oh i lost calibration" it looks bad. If "good fight" and any <S>'s are put out first they may take it better.
Blame the Human Brain. :)
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I stopped using mine because it would go off calibration every day.
Also I had to calibrate it everytime I started Aces high. It would spike horribly even when calibrated. I hear you need a powered USB hub for it... but right now I have a saitek cyborg X which .. surprisingly is very smooth and never goes off calibration. id use it with the x52 throttle but I forgot it in Sweden.
I'm using one, but it's not helping. I think my problem comes from the chord that plugs into the back of the stick from the throttle (which is where I unplug it and plug it back in when i lose cal).
Human Nature. If you lost at something, the first act is to make an excuse, normally. Even if the 'excuse' is legit they will take it as "Oh it was because of so and so" and think you are a sore loser, thus make up excuses.
I know how sticks can lose calibration mid-flight, it's rare but I normally get a "I understand" back. Presentation is also one reason they may accuse you. If you die and instantly state "Oh i lost calibration" it looks bad. If "good fight" and any <S>'s are put out first they may take it better.
Blame the Human Brain. :)
I can see what you mean now. Presentation is usually the key in every thing you do. I have no problem with dying as it happens a lot :lol, but I get frustrated over something I paid a decent amount of money for screwin up..which further leads to me getting frustrated in-game and so on.
Where'd you get your X52? I got mine at Best Buy, and when it started acting up they gave me a new one, no questions asked.
I ordered mine on-line from Best-Buy over a year ago, as it takes about an hour drive to get to the nearest best-buy
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1. Just got an X52 from for $25.00 from garage sale two weeks ago.. No issues.. Had some driver issues but figured those out easily... Keeping my fingers crossed..
But I really like this A LOT better than my old X-45... :rock
2. Like fellow Star Trek fan up there said (I swear dude, I'm not following you :noid). People are just looking for a reason to make themselves feel as
though they accomplished some grand feat of ingenuity/talent/etc. To try and prove something like your stick going wacky or some other
mishap is pointless and there's really no use in even telling someone that something happened to your setup that did not allow you to finish
the fight to the same degree as you were flying when your set up was A-ok (all connect, calibrated, etc.) Really man... It just ain't worth it...
90% of the time, if you ask them to DA after such an incident, you will find that they really need to hold on to that minor victory by avoiding a rematch..
Says a lot about people not just in game, but in general.... :frown:
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I've got the Pro and never have the calibration issue... But it does require a reset by unplugging once or twice a month....... But I digress, that is not your question....
Answer...... Because all of the sticks in-game, me included, have an ego. Some larger then others. And some of us playing longer then others. So... You saying it was your stick is the same as saying they (the dude that just killed you) aren't actually any good and it was your problems that caused your death, not his skill. Hence the pants on fire retort. That's the way I see it at least.
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My question is: How come whenever you tell someone that your stick lost calibration after a fight or something they always assume you are lying and making excuses? I personally take offense to being called a liar, others probably wouldn't care. But what inclines them to think that you are?
NOTE: Flaming will not be tolerated in this thread..the rules say so :)
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Answer...... Because all of the sticks in-game, me included, have an ego. Some larger then others. And some of us playing longer then others. So... You saying it was your stick is the same as saying they (the dude that just killed you) aren't actually any good and it was your problems that caused your death, not his skill. Hence the pants on fire retort. That's the way I see it at least.
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Very understandable as well. Some people can take it as an insult. I have gotten some really good replies in this thread. #S# all for participating. My question has been answered.
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Banshee7
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1. Just got an X52 from for $25.00 from garage sale two weeks ago.. No issues.. Had some driver issues but figured those out easily... Keeping my fingers crossed..
But I really like this A LOT better than my old X-45... :rock
2. Like fellow Star Trek fan up there said (I swear dude, I'm not following you :noid). People are just looking for a reason to make themselves feel as
though they accomplished some grand feat of ingenuity/talent/etc. To try and prove something like your stick going wacky or some other
mishap is pointless and there's really no use in even telling someone that something happened to your setup that did not allow you to finish
the fight to the same degree as you were flying when your set up was A-ok (all connect, calibrated, etc.) Really man... It just ain't worth it...
90% of the time, if you ask them to DA after such an incident, you will find that they really need to hold on to that minor victory by avoiding a rematch..
Says a lot about people not just in game, but in general.... :frown:
Well you coulda fooled me! :P
Glad you got your answer Banshee, a thread actually stayed on course for once. :)
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I find that if I turn my comp on before hooking up my x52 that I have to recalibrate it. I don't usually have problems with the cord going from the throttle to the joystick.
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I used got glue on the cord from throttle to stick. Just a small bead making sure the lights were on as I did it. I also use a powered hub. I've not lost calibration this tour yet.
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People think you're lying for exactly the same reason why you feel compelled to tell them your stick went kerflewy... Ego. You feel such a need to protect your own reputation/ego that after having this happen and getting shot down you feel it is necessary to let the other guy know that he only got you because you lost calibration. If you didn't have the ego issue, you'd have just recalibrated and re-upped to get back in the fight.
You're offended by the guy who calls you a liar, well... I would say that your behavior is pretty much on the exact same level as his. It's just a game, don't make a big deal (or any deal) about somebody shooting you down. You'll be a happier and more balanced person.
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powered usb hub :aok
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About once every other week, someone posts a complaint in one of the various forums about a Saitek (enter model name here:__________) stick losing calibration.
Four words:
Get a CH HOTAS
/rant off
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powered usb hub :aok
Seconded
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powered usb hub :aok
yep use to have that problem all the time, got a power USB Hub and I have no more problems with my stick at all it solved all the issues I was having with them. I think Wal-mart has them for about $15 bucks!
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powered usb hub :aok
using one..doesn't help at all.
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Uninstall all the drivers. And dont re install them. Serious. It will work. I promise. Got my entire squad to uninstall them because they had constant problems, and didnt have use of all the buttons. They uninstalled the software, and are problem free. I plugged my 52 in, when I bought it, and immediately went to aces high, never even took cd out of wrapper. Calibrate in AH, set i up in AH, bingo. Aces High recognizes it.
now find you a better excuse.
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<------solves problem with xtream 3d pro ....24 bucks :aok
hat switch and buttons fail in a few months so it gets dumped in the round file
and i just go get another one :D
its kinda like my chopper.....not real pretty but runs nice.
i spent my coin on a good computer
>S< froger
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powered usb hub :aok
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I don't have many calibration problems with my x52. I do have issues with the cord going into the throttle coming loose thus making the stick turn off (normally in the middle of a white-knuckle fight). And if your stick really lost calibration then the pileit who shot you down would have no claim to pwning you... :noid
Same here from time to time & if you have ord on board say good bye to it.
Other wise I have no issues I do find it is calibrated very nicely for Spit 1's when I am in the manned ack. :D
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I stopped using mine because it would go off calibration every day.
Also I had to calibrate it everytime I started Aces high. It would spike horribly even when calibrated. I hear you need a powered USB hub for it... but right now I have a saitek cyborg X which .. surprisingly is very smooth and never goes off calibration. id use it with the x52 throttle but I forgot it in Sweden.
says the biggest whiner in the whole game.
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Ahhh I was about to ask that: >I love X52's throttle but get fed up with the X52 stick... Is that possible to use the X52throttle with Cyborg FFB stick?
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I have to recalibrate it every day. If I leave an arena, and enter a new one, I have to recalibrate again. Eventually Im going to have to buy a new one. I already have problems getting my rear views with hat 1, which sticks all the time.
As for exuses? I just stay off of 200. I dont give any and dont ask for any, nor do I care if somebody has one. Its really not that big a deal.
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Had same Problems...had to recalibrate every time I started AH....until I got the POWERED USB HUB :rock
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yup bought mine had trouble with it took it back to best buy got another 1 now that 1 sits in the box now i'm using the thottle and the 290
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there is one more thing that will cause a joystick to act up among other things, It could be you PC's power supply not being strong enough to handle all that your asking of it.
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powered hub is almost a must with all the USB stuff we stick on our machines. I have a 600 watt PS in my game machine and still use a powered hub.
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I don't have many calibration problems with my x52. I do have issues with the cord going into the throttle coming loose thus making the stick turn off (normally in the middle of a white-knuckle fight).
+1! :furious
The first time this happened was right after take-off, my plane suddenly started to veer left into the ground and immediately I assumed I lost calibration. Then I noticed all the LEDs were out on the stick and just plugged it back in as the trees filled my windscreen. :D
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I have tried all the ideas to stop it from happening...powered usb hub, use x52 software for calibration, calibrate in Windows control panel, calibrate in game, and it still happens at least once a session. As far as telling someone you lost cal after losing a fight, I never would have said anything to them in the first place. Take the lumps when they come along and just enjoy the game. :aok
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I stopped using mine because it would go off calibration every day.
Also I had to calibrate it everytime I started Aces high. It would spike horribly even when calibrated. I hear you need a powered USB hub for it... but right now I have a saitek cyborg X which .. surprisingly is very smooth and never goes off calibration. id use it with the x52 throttle but I forgot it in Sweden.
says the biggest whiner in the whole game.
Awe, rumbleb get outa the vulch-horde and the truth won't sting soooo much :aok
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There isn't that much a cost difference........ Why does anybody still buy the regular x52 nowadays?
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There isn't that much a cost difference........ Why does anybody still buy the regular x52 nowadays?
My birthday is only a month away!!! hint hint hint :D
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I have tried all the ideas to stop it from happening...powered usb hub, use x52 software for calibration, calibrate in Windows control panel, calibrate in game, and it still happens at least once a session. :aok
Try these:
Iorbit will clean up your system and the Game booster will close most background processes that you don't need to play the game down, while increasing frames and performance.
Black Viper will help you identify back ground programs running that you can disable, especially useful if your using Vista (BLAHHH) Just follow the instructions.
Free program but the full prog is better. There is a way to get it for 10.00 by accepting one of it's offers.
http://www.iobit.com/
http://www.blackviper.com/
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Try these:
Iorbit will clean up your system and the Game booster will close most background processes that you don't need to play the game down, while increasing frames and performance.
Black Viper will help you identify back ground programs running that you can disable, especially useful if your using Vista (BLAHHH) Just follow the instructions.
Free program but the full prog is better. There is a way to get it for 10.00 by accepting one of it's offers.
http://www.iobit.com/
http://www.blackviper.com/
Thanks Tool, I will check them out Sir!
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never had x52, but I have had other saitek sticks, and this is the exact reason I refuse to buy anything Saitek makes. Regardless whether it was the EVO or anything else, I had to recal every few missions.
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Who's ego is it that actually causes the problem. :)
I was AFK once refilling my margarita. I came back to find I was in the tower. I typed lol on 200 and said i deserved that as I was afk. The kid who shot my plane down came back saying BS that I had started turning. hehehe some folks can't live with just fun.
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Never had an issue with my X52... I'd buy another in a heartbeat if mine died.
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psssst.... CH
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Don't have too many problems with my X52. I do have to recalibrate it everytime I log into AHII, otherwise autopilot won't work but that's no big problem. The only other trouble I had was with the deadzones for the stick for pitch up and down. It seemed to want to go back to center very slowly, which made gv gunning VERY hard! I found out the cord was a little loose though.
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From all I've heard on the X-52 here on these boards and a few others visited...It's A a POS with some nice lighting effects.
The old X-45 seems to be superior in many ways and fairly problem free.
The X-45 also had a tension adjustment screw that helped many where as if you wanted to relieve some pressure off the X-52 you'd need to use zip ties to compress the spring.
The biggest problems I've read on the 52 are software and loose cord issues. Nice ideas but poorly made IMO.
I bought a hardly used X-45 off Ebay for $36.00 for a squadie. You can find many of them like this since many only used them for games like ms flight simulator for a month or two and in the closet they went.
Glad I got all CH stuff
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I used to buy the Saitek X42 but also bought the 10.00 USD in store warranty from CompUSA. I did that for many years, and every six months to a year I used the warranty to get a new X-42 set-up...so for 20.00 USD per year I'd get new gear! However, I did tire of Saitek's quality control, and when CompUSA went belly-up in my area I turned to CH Products and have never looked back.
If you cannot afford CH gear, then by all means, buy Saitek...but seek out an in-store warranty as well.
Just some thoughts...
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Third
I already mentioned and we talked about it on page 1.
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I already mentioned and we talked about it on page 1.
Sorry....I'm used to passing over your posts...Thanks for correcting me ;)
How's this:
Fourth... or is it fith now?