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Title: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 04, 2009, 08:56:37 AM
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/04/content_11488667.htm

Hated to hearing this.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Eagler on June 04, 2009, 09:12:20 AM
Time for you to go grasshopper

Kung Fu in the 70's was one of my favorite shows
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: bcadoo on June 04, 2009, 09:20:16 AM
suicide???  wow.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 04, 2009, 09:37:48 AM
Sad end for the man that MADE me buy a Trans Am. :cry
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Nefarious on June 04, 2009, 09:42:28 AM
Shocking, tragic ending.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: ODBAL on June 04, 2009, 10:05:22 AM
Shocking, tragic ending.

Great way to describe it.  RIP Grasshopper. 
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: MotleyCH on June 04, 2009, 01:24:26 PM
RIP

 :salute
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 04, 2009, 01:34:16 PM
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/04/content_11488667.htm

Hated to hearing this.
Double post, this was already posted about on here.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: thrila on June 04, 2009, 01:54:19 PM
He was found hanged naked in his hotel room- sounds like it could very well be autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm)
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 04, 2009, 02:01:41 PM
He was found hanged naked in his hotel room- sounds like it could very well be autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm)
Yeah, they edited the article, it originally said what body part he had the rope around besides his neck, I'm sure you can figure it out, like you said, sounds like he was doing autoerotic asphyxiation and it went wrong.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Dux on June 04, 2009, 02:09:44 PM
sounds like he was doing autoerotic asphyxiation and it went wrong.

...and what is the best case scenario when it goes right...?  :huh

Sad way to end a life.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Maverick on June 04, 2009, 04:28:54 PM
Grasshopper, when you have learned to get your rocks off without expiring, then you will have learned.......
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: DYNAMITE on June 04, 2009, 04:32:23 PM
Grasshopper, when you have learned to get your rocks off without expiring, then you will have learned.......

OMG I'm laughing my *** off  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: crazyivan on June 04, 2009, 05:59:25 PM
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sad055.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 04, 2009, 07:33:47 PM


Death by Kung Fu Grip???

 :huh
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: SKJohn on June 04, 2009, 08:50:21 PM
The article linked in the first post said that he was "hung".  Can't people keep personal details private?  Not bad for a white guy, though . . .
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 04, 2009, 10:01:38 PM
The article linked in the first post said that he was "hung".  Can't people keep personal details private?  Not bad for a white guy, though . . .
Well he didn't really hang himself, it looks like he was into autoerotic asphyxiation that just went to far.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Vulcan on June 04, 2009, 10:29:07 PM
Suddenly the reason for the funky eyes becomes clear....

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Kung_Fu-From_Dark_Angel.png)
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 05, 2009, 04:49:39 AM
...and what is the best case scenario when it goes right...?  :huh

Sad way to end a life.

Umm my best bet is that he was enjoying himself immensely as the last thought that passed his mind.. well before he passed away.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Helm on June 05, 2009, 11:55:45 AM
My local news reported it was keith Carradine that had died? ....I guess they were wrong?


Helm ...out
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: WilldCrd on June 05, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
RIP sir  :salute

Another article I read here : http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ipVUX_BySIOm7FCTgbyATYx9NrywD98KJDBO0 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ipVUX_BySIOm7FCTgbyATYx9NrywD98KJDBO0)

states a little more info however police say that there doesn't appear to have been anyone else in the room  :huh


Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 05, 2009, 02:26:40 PM
I don't see how some of you find any humor in his death.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: SEraider on June 05, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
BREAKING NEWS:  His death is now not considered a suicide.

It is now beig considered an accident through a fatal attempt of an erotic excersise. 

Take about a humiliating way to go.

We'll miss you David.  :pray
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 05, 2009, 05:25:23 PM
I don't see how some of you find any humor in his death.

Ghoulish, I know.  But I guess for the same reason I chuckle at Darwin Award candidates.

Most peoples death are a tragic thing they have no control over.  I would never joke over someone contracting an illness or suffering an accident beyond their control.  But when you die doing something really stupid, I just don't have the same sympathy.

Kinda like I don't have the same sympathy for some bozo who is getting foreclosed on a 300k house they bought while making 40k. Versus a family who had a modest house and simply had the bad luck of both spoused getting layed-off at the same time without warning.

I'm not glad he's dead.  But, he can't expect me to be crying a river over his misfortune.  Your mileage may vary.


Wab

Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Chalenge on June 05, 2009, 05:31:47 PM
Pretty much what I was thinking.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: SEraider on June 05, 2009, 07:18:51 PM
Ghoulish, I know.  But I guess for the same reason I chuckle at Darwin Award candidates.

Most peoples death are a tragic thing they have no control over.  I would never joke over someone contracting an illness or suffering an accident beyond their control.  But when you die doing something really stupid, I just don't have the same sympathy.

Kinda like I don't have the same sympathy for some bozo who is getting foreclosed on a 300k house they bought while making 40k. Versus a family who had a modest house and simply had the bad luck of both spoused getting layed-off at the same time without warning.

I'm not glad he's dead.  But, he can't expect me to be crying a river over his misfortune.  Your mileage may vary.


Wab




I am not sure you can equate your foreclosure example or something similar to a tragic death.  It was not like he was playing russian rullet where the threat of death is 50%.  There, you know you are taking a chance of dying.

His death, not that I am into bondage, I would guess is low mortality rate.  I doubt going into it he would of thought I might die from this.  It was an accident from a low-rate of risk.

IMO
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 05, 2009, 10:15:54 PM


I am not sure you can equate your foreclosure example or something similar to a tragic death.  It was not like he was playing russian rullet where the threat of death is 50%.  There, you know you are taking a chance of dying.

His death, not that I am into bondage, I would guess is low mortality rate.  I doubt going into it he would of thought I might die from this.  It was an accident from a low-rate of risk.

IMO



<Shrug> 

You describe it as a tragic death.  I would describe it as a stupid and pointless death.

You assert he probably didn't think he would die from that activity. I assert that is the whole point of the Darwin Awards.  Up until the last moments, I'm sure none of those candidates thought they would probably die from their award winning stunts.  If this doesn't qualify for a Darwin nomination, then I don't know what would.

You say it was an accident from a low risk activity.  I assert that any time you voluntarily wrap a cord around you neck and hang yourself from the hotel draparies, you are engaging in really, really stupid behavior.

If you die while engaging in really, really stupid behavior, then it is perfectly fair for us to make fun of you on the internet.  It's almost our obligation.  It's like a rule or something.  ;)


Wab
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Maverick on June 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
In actuality he was engaging in unnecessary risky behavior. Plain English. he was applying for a Darwin Award. Other than the fact he has already procreated, he did qualify for it. All he lacked was the requisite, "hold my beer" or "you ain't never seen this before" to make it official.

He died doing something totally unnecessary and stupid. That qualifies for commenting.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 05, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
Have to agree with Wab there, it's not like the guy died of a heart attack in his sleep, that would be something that you wouldn't find humor in, but when you die with a cord tied around your neck & your neither regions you've opened yourself up to it, but don't get me wrong, I think it's sad that he's dead, and I feel very sorry for his friends & family.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 05, 2009, 10:37:47 PM
Now I don't know what to think, I was just reading on TMZ that his death may have been foul play, there saying that his hands may have been immobilized behind his back.  So either he was just really good at tieing his hands behind his back, or there was someone else with him that took it to far.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 05, 2009, 11:27:35 PM
If you die while engaging in really, really stupid behavior, then it is perfectly fair for us to make fun of you on the internet.  It's almost our obligation.  It's like a rule or something.  ;)


Wab

So IF you die while speeding down the highway doing 75 in a 55 when you lose control of your car, that would qualify as well? Its "really, really stupid behavior", so I guess that would qualify you for it. However I wouldn't say anything about it out of respect to your family or friends that may come in here. Perhaps you should do the same in case he does have any in here.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 06, 2009, 12:23:09 AM
So IF you die while speeding down the highway doing 75 in a 55 when you lose control of your car, that would qualify as well? Its "really, really stupid behavior", so I guess that would qualify you for it. However I wouldn't say anything about it out of respect to your family or friends that may come in here. Perhaps you should do the same in case he does have any in here.

Thats a strawman comparison.  Let make it a little closer to the case. 

Lets say I'm hauling down the highway doing 75 in a 55...blindfolded, shaking hands with the Bishop.  Then yes, if I lose control of the car and kill myself, I give you all permission to make fun of me on the internet. 

But don't hold your breath.  I haven't done that sort of thing in years.

Wab
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Larry on June 06, 2009, 04:49:08 AM
Its very sad to hear about this and I feel for his friend and family, but as others say if he was spanking the monkey with something around his neck he knew what he was doing and knew the risk of it. I cant tell you how many times Iv seen news specials about people doing that or kids choking each other because they get off on it or it gets them high. IMO if he was doing the no no its just like skydiving or bungee jumping. You know what you are getting yourself into and know there is a chance something could go wrong. Again very sad to hear about it but he brought it upon himself if it turns out there was no foul play.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 06, 2009, 09:47:53 AM
Compassion is fast becoming a rare thing.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 06, 2009, 09:58:39 AM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Sikboy on June 06, 2009, 10:10:21 AM
One of the locals here in Dallas pointed out that if you're going to engage in this behavior, you should probably go ahead and write a suicide note just in case something goes wrong.

-Sik
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Shuffler on June 06, 2009, 10:14:09 AM
Thats a strawman comparison.  Let make it a little closer to the case. 

Lets say I'm hauling down the highway doing 75 in a 55...blindfolded, shaking hands with the Bishop.  Then yes, if I lose control of the car and kill myself, I give you all permission to make fun of me on the internet. 

But don't hold your breath.  I haven't done that sort of thing in years.

Wab


No difference going down the highway 75 in a 55 or 75 in an 95. Your still doing 75. Both can be deadly and both you can get a ticket.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 06, 2009, 10:58:03 AM
I really don't think that's a fair comparison, dieing while your speeding down the highway, and dieing while masturbating with a rope around your neck & balls are completely different.

Its stupidity to do either one but is it right to make fun of someones death?
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: redwing7 on June 06, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
One of the locals here in Dallas pointed out that if you're going to engage in this behavior, you should probably go ahead and write a suicide note just in case something goes wrong.

-Sik

Really doesn't matter, once the details were released the person would be brunt of many jokes.

Compassion is fast becoming a rare thing.

+1

 :salute
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: moot on June 06, 2009, 12:47:06 PM
Compassion for a stupid decision?
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Sikboy on June 06, 2009, 01:28:18 PM
Compassion for a stupid decision?

I shudder to think about how much compassion "The Greatest Generation" would have in this situation.

-Sik
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 06, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
Compassion is fast becoming a rare thing.

I don't have compassion?  You're saying I don't have compassion???

You do realize the the movie he was in Thailand filming was titled "Stretch"?  I didn't EVEN go there.  I put my hands up and took two steps back.

Do you realize how much self control that took?

I don't have compassion.  Feh!

Wab
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 06, 2009, 03:25:35 PM
I don't have compassion?  You're saying I don't have compassion???

You do realize the the movie he was in Thailand filming was titled "Stretch"?  I didn't EVEN go there.  I put my hands up and took two steps back.

Do you realize how much self control that took?

I don't have compassion.  Feh!

Wab

Ever heard the saying "the bit dog barks first"?
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 06, 2009, 03:39:36 PM
Ever heard the saying "the bit dog barks first"?

Hmmm, no.  But thats very folksy.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Vulcan on June 07, 2009, 03:00:39 AM
He's not the first celeb to kick the bucket this way either.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: moot on June 07, 2009, 06:02:27 AM
He's not the first celeb to kick the bucket this way either.
:lol
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: antivortex on June 07, 2009, 08:33:04 AM
The pictures are already on the intardnet...
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: AApache on June 07, 2009, 08:38:31 AM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: eagl on June 07, 2009, 09:15:54 AM
Not sure where you guys get your info, but everything I've read says he was found partially clothed hanging from his neck in a closet with his hands tied.

Doesn't sound like suicide or erotic asphixia to me.  Some of you guys sure seem to have active imaginations, and some of you guys jumping to say he had it coming sure are quick to condemn someone based on rumors spread by people who make money making up rumors about celebrities.


Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Chalenge on June 07, 2009, 11:11:47 AM
Quote
Police later said the actor may have died from accidental suffocation or heart failure after revealing that he was found with a rope tied around his wrist, neck and genitals — leading to speculation that Carradine may have engaged in a dangerous form of sex play known as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

The 'pictures' that may or may not be him have a body suspended from above but the feet are on the floor.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: RumbleB on June 07, 2009, 12:28:44 PM
At least he died being young at heart... well not that I'd ever try that chit.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Delirium on June 07, 2009, 12:46:27 PM
Not sure where you guys get your info, but everything I've read says he was found partially clothed hanging from his neck in a closet with his hands tied.

Quite a few news agencies stated he had the homemade noose wrapped around his neck and his genitals. Suddenly, they stopped reporting that... his publicist denied the suicide allegation, but said nothing to refute the strange method.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: SEraider on June 07, 2009, 12:56:53 PM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: sluggish on June 07, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
Anybody ever see that movie he was in?  Kind of a mix between "Cannonball Run" and "Mad Max"?  Totally weird and disturbing.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: CptTrips on June 07, 2009, 02:34:59 PM

I have plenty of compassion.  I have compassion for guys getting dead in hot, sandy places serving their country.  I have compassion for cops getting shot out on the streets protecting the public.  I have compassion for someone like Tony Snow who get whacked by some illness out of their control while at the top of the personal and professional game.

I don't have much sypathy for self-endulgent celeberty types who piss away a life thru carelessness or stupidity. Do I have to list them all?

If it helps you any, think of it as making fun more of the stupid act than the person.

You say tragic, I say stupid.  Perhaps we can compromise?  

Stupid tradegy?  Hmmmm no.

How about tragically stupid?

Wab
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Tango on June 07, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Police and military doing thier job rounding up or killing to defend people is one thing. IF he was doing what they originally said [there are some conflicting reports], who was he hurting but himself. Its tragic that he lost his life and it is also tragic that he MAY have lost it doing what they said he was doing. YOU however make it sound as if he was a criminal that deserved what he got.

Perhaps you should look up the meaning of compassion.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 07, 2009, 08:44:43 PM
Not sure where you guys get your info, but everything I've read says he was found partially clothed hanging from his neck in a closet with his hands tied.

Doesn't sound like suicide or erotic asphixia to me.  Some of you guys sure seem to have active imaginations, and some of you guys jumping to say he had it coming sure are quick to condemn someone based on rumors spread by people who make money making up rumors about celebrities.



Maybe there censoring the news now, but it was widely publicized in the day after he died by the AP that he was found dead with the rope around his neck and genitals, so I don't think it was just rumors by people trying to make money.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: eagl on June 07, 2009, 08:59:23 PM
Sounds more like a whacko murder to me.  MAYBE suicide or some hooker or pimp turned on him and killed him, but that's still a pretty weird stretch of an out of control imagination.
 
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Delirium on June 07, 2009, 09:43:30 PM
http://www.comcast.net/video/carradine-family-takes-action-on-probe-photos/1144784811/Comcast/1143522048/

http://www.comcast.net/video/Carradine-Family-Takes-Action-on-Probe-Photos/1144784811/AP/newest/

One of those should work, both AP supported.

Wacko murder? Perhaps, but if someone else was involved it is safe to say (with available information) that he volunteered for the event.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: DMBEAR on June 07, 2009, 11:24:13 PM
You're one of my kind...

(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/images-7.jpg)
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 08, 2009, 12:23:09 AM
"...hands bound above the head...."

Nothing fishy there.  Kind of difficult to, uhhhh..., with your hands tied above your head.  Kind of difficult to tie one's own hand at any rate.


wrongway
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: JB88 on June 08, 2009, 03:17:19 AM
Grasshopper, when you have learned to get your rocks off without expiring, then you will have learned.......
...
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: JB88 on June 08, 2009, 03:19:42 AM
You're one of my kind...

(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/images-7.jpg)

 :noid

Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 08, 2009, 04:06:47 AM
To the people who are saying you have no compassion if you see even a little humor in what happen, just because you think it's kinda funny the way he died doesn't mean you have no compassion, I'm sure we all feel bad for his family & friends, but this is the internet & were just posting on a BBS, it's not like we know him, or his family will be reading this, so it's not like were going up to his family and laughing in front of them about it.  You can still see a little humor in it, and feel bad about a great actor & guy dieing.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: sluggish on June 08, 2009, 08:12:50 AM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: RumbleB on June 08, 2009, 08:24:31 AM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 08, 2009, 08:54:20 AM
See Rule #6

Having his hands tied above his head and hanging from a closet does seem a bit odd for self pleasuring though. How did he tie his own hands? How did he hook himself up to the closet with hands tied above his head? Seems fishy.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 08, 2009, 08:59:17 AM
Having his hands tied above his head and hanging from a closet does seem a bit odd for self pleasuring though. How did he tie his own hands? How did he hook himself up to the closet with hands tied above his head? Seems fishy.
Well you gotta remember, we don't know the whole story, or exactly how he was positioned and tied up too.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 08, 2009, 09:03:28 AM
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/459/horatio.jpg)
Curval already posted that in the other DC is dead thread thats on here.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: WilldCrd on June 08, 2009, 09:44:08 AM
Anybody ever see that movie he was in?  Kind of a mix between "Cannonball Run" and "Mad Max"?  Totally weird and disturbing.

You mean Death Race 2000? Classic low budget flick. Its one of those old movies that people <atleast my generation> loved from the 70's that he did.
Another one he did about martial arts ...I cant think of the name atm. he played multiple roles, about some guy questing to be the greatest fighter in the world or something to that effect. I'm at work but, ill look it up later if someone else doesn't beat me to it
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: trax1 on June 08, 2009, 09:57:48 AM
Another one he did about martial arts ...I cant think of the name atm. he played multiple roles, about some guy questing to be the greatest fighter in the world or something to that effect. I'm at work but, ill look it up later if someone else doesn't beat me to it
I believe the movie your thinking of was called "Circle of Iron", I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: David Carradine dead
Post by: Skuzzy on June 08, 2009, 10:02:30 AM
This topic has gotten into areas which are not appropriate for a family oriented bulletin board.