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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nemisis on June 05, 2009, 04:57:17 PM
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I think it would be a really cool thing to have rain, snow, thunder, wind that apears with storms, etc. Even if they can not make everthing then they could make it so the regular arenas have day, night, dawn, dusk, and maby even wind that changes with the time of day. At least where I live the wind comes in from the North (I think) and changes to come in frome the S.E (again I think) at around 11:30 and picks up speed as the day wears on as the ground and air, and what not warms up through out the day. The wind speed peaks out at around 2 PM or so. I think it would be I cool idea to be able to plan when you sortie, from where, what you will hit, etc., around the wind and time of day. Just somehting to concider, I personaly would enjoy it a lot. And even the storms wouldn't be THAT hard; AH2 could plan out for the month when the storms will be and insert that into the arenas, or maby if they really want to they could pre-develope multiple types of storms and insert them as the wheather is where they are. :salute
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Weather grounds aircraft. Bad weather = no flying.
Yippiee!!
wrongway
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Ya, but if bad weather grounds aircraft then that means the enemy will not bomb us and if we can assemble a large enough force then we can just SHATTER their front line and surround a large portion of their forces in around 6 or so airfields, and we can do it with ground forces alone if we move fast enough and jump off from more than one airfield. And another reason weather would be nice would be it would make it MUCH more realisic. I would think that would be the top focus of a game that prides itself on being realistic even to the point of zealous with the blocking the fighters and bombers. I mean it would give the gp's a chance to exploit the weather where some tanks and even JEEPS could take a base where normaly they would get smashed by airpower. ANOTHER reason it would be nice is it would give the ground pounders the spotlight sometimes. And besides BAD weather grounds aircraft, "not oh no it's sprincleing on our heads we might get our hair moist, not even damp but just moist, but still it MIGHT ruin our perms" weather.
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This isnt really a strategy game...it's a fly and die, kill a little type game.
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And besides BAD weather grounds aircraft, "not oh no it's sprincleing on our heads we might get our hair moist, not even damp but just moist, but still it MIGHT ruin our perms" weather.
In fact,
rain, snow, thunder, wind that apears with storms, etc.
grounds aircraft.
It would be nice, though, to have variable shifting cloud cover and light winds.
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What you all got against some bad weather? Are you afraid you won't have the spotlight shining on you 24/7 because you can't fly AND drive? That is just one reason I practice with gv's and aircraft; If I keep getting shot down by fighters then I could carry out ground operations against the enemy and I will never have my teeth pulled because of in-ability to out fly some enemy pilots in the area. Besides the guys that only use gv's almost never have any actually glory, and I mean we won a breakthrough because of them and not because of paratroopers.
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I play this game because I like to fly. I don't like to GV. Period. HTC isn't going to do anything that will limit people's ability to fly in a flight game.
It would be nice to have variable shifting cloud cover and light winds.
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It would be nice to have variable shifting cloud cover and light winds.
Agree. But herein, I believe, lies the problem. It is the "variable" part. The thing that would make weather realistic.
A constant wind at a constant altitude and vector is easy. I would like to see shifts and up and down drafts and the like. Is it possible to coad that economically?
wrongway
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I'd like the variable clouds and winds. wether fronts. snow on the ground, mud, fog, but nothing that grounds the planes. its Aces High not Tank Battle 2.1
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I know but still, I think we should give the tankies a turn to run with the ball without interference from the the flyboys. Besides I don't want anything bad enough to ground fighters all that often, maby a couple times a month, or something in that range. It was mostly for a change of scenery, speaking of which it would be cool to have the seasons change along with the weather....wait a sec, switch those. Masherbrum if you read this please know that tankies and sec AND the four periods were also used intentionaly. See, I can use correct grammar :P.
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planes et grounded a lot already. ORDS
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While that is true I am talking about getting grounded untill the storm blows over. And if having to stay on the ground or move to a different base for a while (oh yes, you didn't really think I would want bad weather everywhere? A zone at the most, maby even around 6-8 bases per storm and around 3 storms total.) will cheese you off then AH2 could make it so rain and snow will cause the ground to soften and get muddy, etc. and cause the tankies to get bogged down. Boy, aren't I full of cheery ideas today :devil?
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Here is shocker! ...if there is weather? ...you could dog fight above the clouds? .....shocking is it not??
Helm ...out
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Except for the wind and cloud layers (I fly FSO. Wind and ugly cloud cover is a fact of life) I'm going to say this is a TERRIBLE idea, with ONE asterisk:
IF it's set up so that the weather fronts move and it does NOT impact the entire map. In other words, one part of the map may see heavy rains limiting flight operations, but in other areas the skies are clear. This way those who want to fly don't have to sit in the tower until the rains clear (unless they REALLY want to fly in one specific corner of the map) and GVers get that break from having to watch for 1000lbers falling on their heads. Have the storms move using the same accelerated time as the day/night cycle so they don't sit over one area for too long.
Being able to hide behind rain squalls could also make CV ops more interesting....
However if it significantly impairs the air-combat aspects, then a resounding "No."
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Like I said, a weather front or storm shoud impact or cover around a zone at the most. maby even 6-10 bases. Second of course the weather would move or HTC would have to designe a swamp terrain for the rainy areas. And Helm, thank you. People could fly above the clouds, or at least bombers could; they would fly out from bases NOT being rained on. :confused: :huh
(guy afraid of getting rained on, also ex-groundcrew man, and ex-tanker) omg, did he just say that!?!? oh no, that would involve waiting and climbing :cry.
This is for you fighter guys especially, and for light-medium bomber pilots to a lesser extent: guys it dosen't take that long to climb to 20K so just fly a little higher.
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I believe there would have to be a way to code variable wind direction and speed into the maps. If HTC can make day and night shift, one should be able to make a very educated guess that HTC could make the wind speed direction and speed shift as well.
I'd like to see SOME type of weather variation. If we cant have rain, then a bit of wind would be nice. Vary it from 5 to 10 mph and rotate it clockwise 45 degrees every 30min.
Obviously, some are going to complain that the wind gives the "other side" X benefits (X = speed). But what many foget to grasp as that while a head wind may slow you down slightly, it offer a whole new realm of menouverability most have yet to experience (head winds = more lift = quicker turns, longer stall turns, taller loops, etc). ;)
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If there was weather, there should also be weather forecasts ;) It might actually be quite nice to sit in tower planning a bomber mission to an overcast target which would (possibly) clear by the time the planes got over it.
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There ya go BlauK, thats what I'm talking about. So far almost no one has been able to see past the whol "oh no, I can't fly my fighter from that base" or "I can't fly any lower then (alt of storm)k" thing. They might be digging in their heels even because they don't want the ground pounders to have a turn, I just don't know. I think weather would make the game more fun as it will be more realistic. I think we should atleast have day and night in the regular arenas, It would allow the addition of specialised night fighters that would be out of place anywhere else.
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im tired of green grass and blue skys i would like to see some more clouds maybe some snow on the ground it would be cool if it got dark in th MA too but i guess they took that out cause nobody liked it probably
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I'm sorry for this but, who ever wants absolutely no change in weather and wether or not it is day or night is a......... well let's just say they are un intelegent
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I'm all for wind, at the same time can someone let me know where the windshield wiper controls are on my p51 for when it rains?
Seriously, darker clouds that make seeing each other at dot distance harder would be great. Up and down drafts are a great idea. I usually go high when on the way to a fight so that doesn't bother me. It gives me time to get a drink and get out of the chair for a few minutes. Precipitation back then meant it was time to play cards, catch a nap, and talk with the wingman a bit no?
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Yes.....below the clouds. Once you get above the clouds then you can still fly, just start in an area where it isn't raining. Bombers did it and had escorts sometimes. But hey, I still say we shoud give the gv guys at least a chance to opperate without getting slaughtered from the air. Besides it would probably be pretty easy to remove if everyone hatted it.
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I'm sorry for this but, who ever wants absolutely no change in weather and wether or not it is day or night is a......... well let's just say they are un intelegent
Quiet write!
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Did you mean quite right? If you didn't I don't get it.......or understand you :confused:. Could you please verify?
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I'm all for wind, at the same time can someone let me know where the windshield wiper controls are on my p51 for when it rains?
Airspeed keeps the rain from collecting on the canopy too much. Reason why you don't see too many aircraft with windshield wipers.
Did you mean quite right? If you didn't I don't get it.......or understand you :confused:. Could you please verify?
He was making fun of your spelling.
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Aw, crap. I thought my bad luck was over. Aw MAN, that sucks!!! Well, any way I know my spelling can be horrendous, but as long as people can understand me then it doesn't REALLY matter all that much.
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Obviously, some are going to complain that the wind gives the "other side" X benefits (X = speed). But what many foget to grasp as that while a head wind may slow you down slightly, it offer a whole new realm of menouverability most have yet to experience (head winds = more lift = quicker turns, longer stall turns, taller loops, etc). ;)
thats not how wind works... relative to the moving airmass, everything is the same.
the only thing affected is ground speed
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thats not how wind works... relative to the moving airmass, everything is the same.
the only thing affected is ground speed
Ground speed = Energy...
Those aircraft coming into a fight with a tailwind will end up having more energy at the same altitude due to having a higher ground speed. However, if it shifts around from time-to-time, I see no issue with it, and I'd welcome it.
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Ground speed = Energy...
Those aircraft coming into a fight with a tailwind will end up having more energy at the same altitude due to having a higher ground speed. However, if it shifts around from time-to-time, I see no issue with it, and I'd welcome it.
more energy relative to the ground.. not relative to the air, or other airplanes in the same air.. the airplane does not know or care it is flying in wind. it is a different frame of reference.
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I would definitely enjoy seasons and weather coming to Aces High.
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ever gone in the offline and set ur wind as high as it will go and fly against it :lol its like a helicopter
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I did that in H2H, got boring real fast.
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The only thing rain/thunder storms would do for me is ground me. I would bail out of the game until good weather, or at least decent weather returned.
Also, put me down as one of the people that does NOT enjoy flying AH during twilight times (when the sun has set).
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would add A LOT of lag :O
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The only thing rain/thunder storms would do for me is ground me. I would bail out of the game until good weather, or at least decent weather returned.
Also, put me down as one of the people that does NOT enjoy flying AH during twilight times (when the sun has set).
As large as most of the maps are, weather would only effect certain areas, at a certain time...there would still be thousands of miles of clear sky to fly in.
Also put me on the list of people who ENJOY flying at night and twilight
Helm ...out
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WELL FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHEN ACESHIGH WAS AIRWORRIER OR ACES HIGH,BACK IN THE DAY.THEY DID HAVE REAL WEATHER.AND EVERY BODY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT .THAT THEY CANT GET A REAL GOOD DOG FIGHTING IN,CANT BOMB BASES DO TO MUCH
CLOUDS ESETRA ESETRA ESETRA...SO BE HAPPY WITH THE FOG AND THE CLOUD COVER....
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WELL FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHEN ACESHIGH WAS AIRWORRIER OR ACES HIGH,BACK IN THE DAY.THEY DID HAVE REAL WEATHER.AND EVERY BODY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT .THAT THEY CANT GET A REAL GOOD DOG FIGHTING IN,CANT BOMB BASES DO TO MUCH
CLOUDS ESETRA ESETRA ESETRA...SO BE HAPPY WITH THE FOG AND THE CLOUD COVER....
This game has no connection with Air Warrior. Hitech did work on "Warbirds" which was a competitor to Air Warrior.
The notion the "everybody" complained about night and weather is simply not true. A very vocal minority beat the drum to have it taken away from us. Most of this "Minority" continues to demand that we play this game in a test tube, under perfect laboratory conditions. Sadly most of these folks are real fine pilots, why they cant handle a few rain drops, and a brief period of darkness is beyond me. I'm not very good, and I could handle it with ease. In fact I enjoyed it. Let's keep in mind that it was only dark for 5min. The overall cycle from sunset... to darkness.... to sunup ....took less then 2hrs. There was only maybe 15min where it was really dark. There was a full moon out so there was plenty of light. I think its sad that so many talented players could not deal with it. When their WW 2 counter parts dealt with it everyday.
Environment is a major component to armed conflict in any endever. Why we are forced to fly in a "test tube" is beyond me. Night and weather don't scare me. It sure seems to frighten others. I could see fine. Heck I was playing on 15 inch monitor and i could see fine.
Helm ...out
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This game has no connection with Air Warrior. Hi tech did work on "Warbirds" which was a competitor to Air Warrior.
The notion the "everybody" complained about night and weather is simply not true. A very vocal minority beat the drum to have it taken away from us. Most of this "Minority" continues to demand that we play this game in a test tube, under perfect laboratory conditions. Sadly most of these folks are real fine pilots, why they cant handle a few rain drops, and a brief period of darkness is beyond me. I'm not very good, and I could handle it with ease. In fact I enjoyed it. Let's keep in mind that it was only dark for 5min. The overall cycle from sunset... to darkness.... to sunup ....took less then 2hrs. There was only maybe 15min where it was really dark. There was a full moon out so there was plenty of light. I think its sad that so many talented players could not deal with it. When their WW 2 counter parts dealt with it everyday.
Environment is a major component to armed conflict in any endever. Why we are forced to fly in a "test tube" is beyond me. Night and weather don't scare me. It sure seems to frighten others. I could see fine. Heck I was playing on 15 inch monitor and i could see fine.
Helm ...out
Actually I believe a majority of the minority would log out when dark came leaving a minority of the majority actually flying and being unable to find a fight due to the fact that a majority of the minority was no longer on line and the minority of the majority couldn't find the other majority of the minority to fight because they couldn't see.
Besides, what's the point of having "darkness" if you merely adjust your gamma so it's not really dark anymore? Fighting at "night" in the "light"?
Pointless.
wrongway
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The only part of this I don't get is "Why can't I fly from a rainy base?" It is possible to take off in rain. The rain just makes it harder to see.
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Storms bring with them wind, and usually strong shifting winds, as well as a low cloud deck... low visibility... These are generally very dangerous conditions for aircraft to fly in, which is why large storms grounded aircraft in real life.
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Actually I believe a majority of the minority would log out when dark came leaving a minority of the majority actually flying and being unable to find a fight due to the fact that a majority of the minority was no longer on line and the minority of the majority couldn't find the other majority of the minority to fight because they couldn't see.
Besides, what's the point of having "darkness" if you merely adjust your gamma so it's not really dark anymore? Fighting at "night" in the "light"?
Pointless.
wrongway
I had no problem seeing.
I rarely ....if ever.... adjusted my gamma. If i did i might have bumped it up maybe .2 ...but I rarely did that.
I am sorry you have trouble with your sight. I had no problem what so ever seeing. The full moon provided plenty of light.
Helm ...out
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why is it every time someone brings up "weather" everyone immdiatly thinks they are asking for thunderstorms and 0 visibility?
some light wind, moving clouds, a little rain now and then.... weather.. not monsoon season, not Noa's flood.. just a little weather.
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why is it every time someone brings up "weather" everyone immdiatly thinks they are asking for thunderstorms and 0 visibility?
some light wind, moving clouds, a little rain now and then.... weather.. not monsoon season, not Noa's flood.. just a little weather.
And even the storms wouldn't be THAT hard; AH2 could plan out for the month when the storms will be and insert that into the arenas, or maby if they really want to they could pre-develope multiple types of storms and insert them as the wheather is where they are.
I would love light variable wind, clouds etc. to break up the monotony a bit.
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I would love light variable wind, clouds etc. to break up the monotony a bit.
I agree, other than I like flying in the calm. The key, which I keep saying, is variable. Like real wind or weather that shifts around, maybe only a few degrees, or uyp and down a bit vesus 10knts from the SE at 2005 feet, continuosly.
Why do people assume "monsoon season"? Because the wish is always for rain, snow, zero visibility. Not VFR stuff. Seems this wish is even rooted in a "I don't want others to drop bombs on my gv" type theme.
Not so much a "how can we enhance the game" as "how can I not die" wish.
wrongway
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I agree, other than I like flying in the calm. The key, which I keep saying, is variable. Like real wind or weather that shifts around, maybe only a few degrees, or uyp and down a bit vesus 10knts from the SE at 2005 feet, continuosly.
wrongway
hell, I dont even care if its just "static" weather.. I.E. constant wind direction and speed.. its still better than nothing at all.. but yea ideally there would be like a weather "cycle" that perhaps rotates through every 4 hours or so.
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I know, it kinda gets boring after a while. Maby even change the winds as the day wears on or just have winds pick up at around noon, thats what happens where I live. We could just have a cloudy day, it wouldn't even have to rain or anything, just change up the color a little, know what I'm saying?
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a REAL cloud layer would be pretty cool IMO, kinda like what we have now but MUCH thicker (cant level bomb through it accurately) with actual clouds, not the thin "haze layer" kinda thing that is there now. obviously it wouldn't be everywhere all the time or even at the same alt.
I love it when there are lots of clouds, makes it more immersion and gives a better sense of "flight"
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It does. But I think some people would probably be annoyed at not being able to levle bomb EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME, and at EVERY ALT. And I bet you 100 grand that some of them are to ones that say boo to a plane just because it didn't have QUITE a long enough service record. It is kind, wrong, I mean you can't say "Nope sorry, that plane wasn't used enough; it wouldn't be real enough" in one thread and say "Oh no, we can't have clouds that would make it impossible to levle bomb accurately, it would get kind annoying it I couldn't bomb that place 24/7 even if I don't want to. Besides this game is about flying and if you put in rain and storms then you can't fly." I'm sorry guys but if you want this game to be realistic and are requesting "real shadows in the cocpit" then you can't say no to a change of scenery.
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Looks like someone got blown off. Psst... we have shadows in cockpits.
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I'm just saying, you shouldn't go asking for something as miniscule as shadows and then say boo to something as big as weather change just because you migh have to attack a different base.
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I'm just saying, you shouldn't go asking for something as miniscule as shadows and then say boo to something as big as weather change just because you migh have to attack a different base.
We have weather all the time in special events. Clouds obscuring targets, wind, nighttime, fog, etc.
The game can do it (other than precip).. It's just not very useful for the main arena, I don't think..
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Question???
So with the addition of WX. Would there be Windsheer, Vertigo, Thermals, Down drafts and other associated weather related events found in real aviation weather?
Of coarse the Vertigo would come only if a pilot absolutely refused to read his instruments. :lol
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hell, I dont even care if its just "static" weather.. I.E. constant wind direction and speed.. its still better than nothing at all.. but yea ideally there would be like a weather "cycle" that perhaps rotates through every 4 hours or so.
This is why I say no, besides the historical "scrubbed due to...", to the weather thing.
Constant velocity from a constant direction at a constant altitude isn't weather. It's just an annoying force vector.
wrongway
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This is why I say no, besides the historical "scrubbed due to...", to the weather thing.
Constant velocity from a constant direction at a constant altitude isn't weather. It's just an annoying force vector.
wrongway
yea, wind sure is annoying, stupid, blowing my air all around, who needs it.
and perhaps wind that didn't change wouldn't be "weather" but it would be a step in the direction towards weather.. and one must walk before one can crawl, my young wrongway.
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Wingnout, you trying to soud like a jedi or a monk? It could have been either, however, it kinda leans toward monk. Well anyway, I just watched the vidieo in the 'eye candy' thread and there was snow an the ground, it was cloudy, but not snowing. I think this would be a great thing to have in the game; you could just make it so changes at midnight or noon. Noon is probably not the BEST time as it will change when a lot of people are playing, wheras midnight most people are in bed sleeping with a tedybear, I know I am :D (just kiding).
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Just found a new reason to change the weather or atleast the seasons. Panzers stickout like a sore thum in our all green terrain. If we can't get snow then at least make it so the season changes (summer-green, spring-brownish at first then goes to green but not summer green, fall-green at first but turns brown, winter-since you all seem oposed to snow then how abount brown grass?).
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Just found a new reason to change the weather or atleast the seasons. Panzers stickout like a sore thum in our all green terrain. If we can't get snow then at least make it so the season changes (summer-green, spring-brownish at first then goes to green but not summer green, fall-green at first but turns brown, winter-since you all seem oposed to snow then how abount brown grass?).
My grass is brown right now. Winter's right around the corner!!
:O
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I scanned through the thread and didn't see anyone mention that HTC already implemented a dynamic weather system. It created moving cloud fronts and all sorts of things. Then when the arena reset at 1-2 A.M. Pacific Time and the server hung trying to deal with the new system, Skuzzy killed it and it seems the project was shelved.