Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: P1Tiger on June 06, 2009, 08:51:47 PM

Title: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: P1Tiger on June 06, 2009, 08:51:47 PM
i fly corsair a lot being that its my squad plane, and flaps are a pain to keep pressing two buttons to raise/lower flaps and for people with two throttle controls, could possibly use the throttle that isn't in use when your flying a single engine plane to use one throttle analog to control flaps? 
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Delirium on June 06, 2009, 10:30:30 PM
+1

That would help immersion in the 38 as well.  :aok
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: trigger2 on June 06, 2009, 11:17:28 PM
+1

Lovely idea. I use my slider for FSx, and I'll tell you, it makes flight alot more fun. I don't see why it can't be done, just have it set so that after a certain point, lower flaps x%, and so on...

~Trig
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Saxman on June 07, 2009, 12:32:32 AM
I'd love to be able to "set" two notches of flaps on an analog control in a way so that my Hog automatically deploys them when the airspeed is sufficient, which is something Corsair pilots during the war ACTUALLY did (F4U and F6F flaps were controlled by springs. If the pilot left the handle down airflow would blow them back up at high enough speeds, and they'd drop again on their own when airspeed fell sufficiently).
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: P1Tiger on June 07, 2009, 02:02:20 AM
wow, i posted something people actually like, ive had this idea for a very long time, but never got to the wishlist.
i hope HTC Approves of this, and if you really want his attention maybe you guys should start other threads about it.

    :salute to all you hog pilots and to all you flap monster pilots :salute
             lets keep this thread alive
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: stephen on June 07, 2009, 07:55:59 AM
You would be surprised at the shear number of good ideas that slide by in here.

Couple good ones made it in though...
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: DEEC0NX on June 07, 2009, 01:22:07 PM
AS XO of VMF-214 I approve this thread  :salute
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Kazaa on June 07, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
+1

Would this work on Spits, I doubt it.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Enker on June 07, 2009, 10:09:12 PM
I'd love to be able to "set" two notches of flaps on an analog control in a way so that my Hog automatically deploys them when the airspeed is sufficient, which is something Corsair pilots during the war ACTUALLY did (F4U and F6F flaps were controlled by springs. If the pilot left the handle down airflow would blow them back up at high enough speeds, and they'd drop again on their own when airspeed fell sufficiently).
Same idea as in the F4F with its vacuum-controlled flaps. Pilots would drop the handle all the way to the bottom for when they got in a fight.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: LLogann on June 08, 2009, 09:08:30 AM
It's a great idea BUT.........


Maybe Q & W to a HAT switch?  It'll do the same thing without having to update the software. 

Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Enker on June 08, 2009, 12:22:32 PM
It's a great idea BUT.........


Maybe Q & W to a HAT switch?  It'll do the same thing without having to update the software. 


Not analog...as in a slider.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: LLogann on June 08, 2009, 12:41:44 PM
Yes but, FLAP's do not work that way.  In essence, we're asking for something for something that doesn't need an analog input.  These aircraft, their RL counterparts, and most modern aircraft DO NOT have "anywhere you want them flaps"  Flaperon's being an exception, however not even they have "free" flaps.  I can think of 1 French modern plane that does, but the name escapes me.

Not analog...as in a slider.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: cactuskooler on June 08, 2009, 01:14:48 PM
+1

This is something that I have been wanting as well.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Delirium on June 08, 2009, 03:44:03 PM
Yes but, FLAP's do not work that way.  In essence, we're asking for something for something that doesn't need an analog input.  These aircraft, their RL counterparts, and most modern aircraft DO NOT have "anywhere you want them flaps" 

I understand what you're saying, but AH would have to come to each of our homes and install detents in our analog controllers for each bird we fly. Then again, they would also have to install some kind of device to administer G, give us wounds when our pilot is hit, and a device to kill us when we crash.

I'd imagine if this wish is enacted, even if the analog controller is at 35% the flaps would only drop to the notch nearest to that position. It isn't a big request, I'm surprised anyone would have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: kvuo75 on June 08, 2009, 04:08:57 PM
Yes but, FLAP's do not work that way.  In essence, we're asking for something for something that doesn't need an analog input.  These aircraft, their RL counterparts, and most modern aircraft DO NOT have "anywhere you want them flaps"  Flaperon's being an exception, however not even they have "free" flaps.  I can think of 1 French modern plane that does, but the name escapes me.


cessna 172 = put flaps anywhere you want..
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: phatzo on June 09, 2009, 01:48:44 AM
I understand what you're saying, but AH would have to come to each of our homes and install detents in our analog controllers for each bird we fly. Then again, they would also have to install some kind of device to administer G, give us wounds when our pilot is hit, and a device to kill us when we crash.

I'd imagine if this wish is enacted, even if the analog controller is at 35% the flaps would only drop to the notch nearest to that position. It isn't a big request, I'm surprised anyone would have a problem with it.
a HTC staff member stands behind you with a collection of different sized hammers to hit you with depending on the severity of the situation.
But seriously the anologue flap idea for aircraft that it applies to would be great.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: SectorNine50 on June 09, 2009, 02:57:27 AM
cessna 172 = put flaps anywhere you want..
I thought they only had 10, 20, and 30 degree settings...?
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: Denholm on June 09, 2009, 09:00:08 AM
Yes but, FLAP's do not work that way.  In essence, we're asking for something for something that doesn't need an analog input.  These aircraft, their RL counterparts, and most modern aircraft DO NOT have "anywhere you want them flaps"  Flaperon's being an exception, however not even they have "free" flaps.  I can think of 1 French modern plane that does, but the name escapes me.


From what I gathered from the original request, the flaps will be placed in a position already supported based on the position the slider (analog input) is positioned at. So, on a 100% scale for plane and analog input (100% being maximum flaps and maximum input on the control) if the slider was set at 39% and the plane had an option for 35 or even 40 percent flaps, the flaps would be lowered to 35 or 40 percent flaps. The flaps wouldn't be free to go anywhere, they would be lowered to the nearest matching position.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: LLogann on June 09, 2009, 09:05:12 AM
And that will work fine mapping a HAT switch to flaps..... So we already can do it!!!   :rock
From what I gathered from the original request, the flaps will be placed in a position already supported based on the position the slider (analog input) is positioned at. So, on a 100% scale for plane and analog input (100% being maximum flaps and maximum input on the control) if the slider was set at 39% and the plane had an option for 35 or even 40 percent flaps, the flaps would be lowered to 35 or 40 percent flaps. The flaps wouldn't be free to go anywhere, they would be lowered to the nearest matching position.

<S> Denholm
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: kvuo75 on June 09, 2009, 11:34:08 AM
I thought they only had 10, 20, and 30 degree settings...?

the lil indicator has "notches" listed, but the control is analogue. i remember my first flight with an instructor.. I push the flaps down switch, expecting a "notch", and he explains ya gotta hold it down for a few seconds each time.
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: SectorNine50 on June 10, 2009, 07:06:06 AM
the lil indicator has "notches" listed, but the control is analogue. i remember my first flight with an instructor.. I push the flaps down switch, expecting a "notch", and he explains ya gotta hold it down for a few seconds each time.

Oh very interesting, so you have to hold it for a few seconds because it wants to move back up?
Title: Re: Analog Output for Flaps
Post by: kvuo75 on June 10, 2009, 08:46:12 AM
Oh very interesting, so you have to hold it for a few seconds because it wants to move back up?


because thats how long it takes for the flaps to move, if u wanted to go from 0 to 40 degrees, it would take like 8 or 10 seconds of holding down the lever.