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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Roundeye on June 14, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
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...way before it got that close. :O
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed6_1244954465 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed6_1244954465)
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ouch... bad call
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Wow...how lucky are they. Pilot is ok I'm assuming.
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I hope everyone is okay but that pilot should have his license yanked.
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Great gogely mogely.
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Deer in the headlights! :O
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I'm sure the peolple dead in front of his plane made his takeoff attempt even easier....morons.
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i think the person with the camera got it right, holy !@#$, well thats a shame, those are nice planes
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Apparently some people missed this, "My father and I were videotaping planes at Lake Hood taking off and landing when the wind kicked up and sent the Beaver taking off right at us."
The wind caused the plane to shift course. At those high speeds trying to get back on-track in the water is nearly impossible. The pilot did what he could to avoid a nasty situation.
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To me it appears as if the pilot saw the idiots who just stood there filming away as the plane was approaching and yanked the plane off the water and over them, probably knowing it would stall out, but did it to purposely avoid the guys on the ground.
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To me it appears as if the pilot saw the idiots who just stood there filming away as the plane was approaching and yanked the plane off the water and over them, probably knowing it would stall out, but did it to purposely avoid the guys on the ground.
That's what it looks like to me, looks like he still had ~10-15 ft. of water which mighta been enough to get speed up just a bit more...
That's a shame, those are really nice birds... :salute
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Apparently some people missed this, "My father and I were videotaping planes at Lake Hood taking off and landing when the wind kicked up and sent the Beaver taking off right at us."
The wind caused the plane to shift course. At those high speeds trying to get back on-track in the water is nearly impossible. The pilot did what he could to avoid a nasty situation.
I respectfully disagree. I feel the pilot allowed the situation to control him. The second he got shifted off the course he could have cut throttle, came to a stop, and taxi around for another try. He had tons of time to abort. He chose to push a bad situation. He chose wrong.
Those people standing dead in the way? In self interest I would have gotten out of the way sooner, but its not like they were strolling across an active runway. That looks like one of those observation parks set up especially for people to watch the aircraft.
In my opinion the pilot made some very bad decisions. Fault can be placed no where else.
Regards,
Wab
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To me it appears as if the pilot saw the idiots who just stood there filming away as the plane was approaching and yanked the plane off the water and over them, probably knowing it would stall out, but did it to purposely avoid the guys on the ground.
I'm not sure I follow you on this one. I read this first then watch the video. I thought from what you said the the guy filming the plane was in a boat on the water shooting. But he was on land behind a fench. The plane kept coming to him. He was not in the planes way at all.
I'm not going to second guess the pilot. He could of been fighting winds or something triing to get the plane stright. But he could of pulled back the throttle sooner before it got away from him. Who knows but the pilot what was going on at the controls Just have to wait for the invesiagtion results.
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I hope everyone is okay but that pilot should have his license yanked.
It looks like the plane was dragging. Experienced float plane pilots might want to comment, but it did not look like the plane got up on the float step very well, too much elevator early?
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I respectfully disagree. I feel the pilot allowed the situation to control him. The second he got shifted off the course he could have cut throttle, came to a stop, and taxi around for another try. He had tons of time to abort. He chose to push a bad situation. He chose wrong...
I can't comment there since I don't know how quickly a plane decelerates in water.
...Those people standing dead in the way? In self interest I would have gotten out of the way sooner, but its not like they were strolling across an active runway. That looks like one of those observation parks set up especially for people to watch the aircraft...
This is something I was trying to point out earlier yet failed to mention. The people filming the takeoff were not in the way of the plane. They were in a safe location that just happened to become part of a nasty event.
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Dont yell at the pilot .. IOf you have seen me in the game you would know i took my flying lessons from him !!! :x
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I'm sure the peolple dead in front of his plane made his takeoff attempt even easier....morons.
they had nothing to do with it. he should've pulled the throttle long before it got to the point where he felt he had to "yank" it off the water.
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I respectfully disagree. I feel the pilot allowed the situation to control him. The second he got shifted off the course he could have cut throttle, came to a stop, and taxi around for another try. He had tons of time to abort. He chose to push a bad situation. He chose wrong.
Those people standing dead in the way? In self interest I would have gotten out of the way sooner, but its not like they were strolling across an active runway. That looks like one of those observation parks set up especially for people to watch the aircraft.
In my opinion the pilot made some very bad decisions. Fault can be placed no where else.
Regards,
Wab
Wab nailed it if you notice they were standing right next to the wind sock........... should have aborted that one 1/2 way acrossed the lake
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It looks like the plane was dragging. Experienced float plane pilots might want to comment, but it did not look like the plane got up on the float step very well, too much elevator early?
Yep, looks like he couldn't get up on the step. Could have been overloaded but that TO should have been aborted well before there was any danger to the people on the ground.
You have to remember that this is in Alaska where common sense and safety aren't always paramount.
Three times I was in similar situations where the pilot took on passengers and gear without even asking the weight of either. One time we cleared a fuel barge/dock by less that 10 feet after a very long TO run where the pilot tried multiple times to get up on the step.
Still, my favorite way to travel in AK is in an old piston powered Beaver. Every time I have gotten in one I feel like I've stepped into a wayback machine.
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Pilot error, way too much time to abort and he/she did not.