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Title: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 16, 2009, 04:35:39 PM
I would purpose that if you are AFK and logged in sitting in the tower somewhere that your count against ENY for your country should be dropped after some period of time, maybe a hour with no activity or something along those lines. The other option would be after a perdetermined amount of time you were sent back to the lobby.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Wingnutt on June 16, 2009, 04:42:25 PM
but, I have to sit in the tower... to watch for the NOE...


 :t
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: vonKrimm on June 16, 2009, 04:56:50 PM
I would purpose that if you are AFK and logged in sitting in the tower somewhere that your count against ENY for your country should be dropped after some period of time, maybe a hour with no activity or something along those lines. The other option would be after a perdetermined amount of time you were sent back to the lobby.

I refer you to:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,266829.0.html

(in an effort to "green-up" the BBs & save our natural electronic resources)
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Ghosth on June 17, 2009, 05:03:14 AM
Guess again.

I very very much doubt HTC is going to boot off paying customers, simply because it changes the ENY slightly.
Inactive or not, just not smart for them to do so. Opens up whole new Category's of whines & complaints.


Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Masherbrum on June 17, 2009, 07:07:01 AM
If you rely on "high ENY rides", you pay the price eventually.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: waystin2 on June 17, 2009, 08:35:17 AM
Sorry but...
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/nope_logo2.gif)
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: VonMessa on June 17, 2009, 08:53:56 AM
Sorry but...
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/nope_logo2.gif)

What he said.

Where else am I supposed to sit while I roll my pre-flight doobies, in the cockpit?

Talk about a big mess if I need to go evasive!
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: morfiend on June 17, 2009, 09:07:50 AM
Von,cant you read the signs"no smoking while refueling"

 Ya and I believed you when you said those red eyes were cuz you had the canope open!! :devil
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: waystin2 on June 17, 2009, 10:19:11 AM
Rare Pic of Von and another pilot in some sort of two seat craft!

(http://boxothoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cc_upinsmoke_ms_5.jpg)

Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: VonMessa on June 17, 2009, 10:23:40 AM
Rare Pic of Von and another pilot in some sort of two seat craft!

(http://boxothoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cc_upinsmoke_ms_5.jpg)



My werknummer?

Isn't it back dere on da vertical stab, meng?
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: 1Boner on June 17, 2009, 11:09:13 AM
but, I have to sit in the tower... to watch for the NOE...


 :t


Nah!.

Just watch the map while on auto-climb to 15k+ to find a fight.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 17, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
Guess again.

I very very much doubt HTC is going to boot off paying customers, simply because it changes the ENY slightly.
Inactive or not, just not smart for them to do so. Opens up whole new Category's of whines & complaints.







Ok I would agree with you on sending people back to the lobby, but if someone is sitting in the tower and not in the air why would it be a problem to not count them until they return and start some activity within the game. I think this would help all countries wouldn't it.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: grizz441 on June 17, 2009, 12:27:19 PM
How about just autoboot someone who is logged on for an hour with no activity? 
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: waystin2 on June 17, 2009, 01:49:51 PM
How about just autoboot someone who is logged on for an hour with no activity? 

HTC has stated that this will never happen.  Simply bad for business.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: dunnrite on June 17, 2009, 02:03:53 PM
I thought the "In Flight" was what affected the eny?
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: grizz441 on June 17, 2009, 02:09:36 PM
HTC has stated that this will never happen.  Simply bad for business.

Bad for business, how so?  It's a little insecure if HTC really thinks that it would cost them customers or that they don't even want to mess with it because of the chance of losing customers.  I don't understand in the least bit, I need somebody to enlighten me.  I can only speak for myself but if I went afk and left my game running and came back an hour later and I was booted, I would simply log back on.  Kind of like, when you leave a room you turn the light off?
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: waystin2 on June 17, 2009, 02:18:32 PM
Bad for business, how so?  It's a little insecure if HTC really thinks that it would cost them customers or that they don't even want to mess with it because of the chance of losing customers.  I don't understand in the least bit, I need somebody to enlighten me.  I can only speak for myself but if I went afk and left my game running and came back an hour later and I was booted, I would simply log back on.  Kind of like, when you leave a room you turn the light off?

i will be honest with you here.  I am not completely sure that I grasp all of HTC's policies and th ethought processes that go into said policies.  That being said, I do recall him responding to a silimilar request a few months ago with a "It's not going to happen".  Something about giving the customer what works, not what they want.  He is almost like the great and powerful OZ, he is not meant to be understood only obeyed!   :lol

(http://students.ou.edu/M/Kathleen.W.Mc-Kinney-1/wizard.jpg)
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Wingnutt on June 17, 2009, 03:01:39 PM
I thought the "In Flight" was what affected the eny?

that has been the topic of debate and speculation many times over..

some believe if your in the tower, you do not effect the ENY, others believe if you effect just by being present, regardless of if you are doing anything or not..  I actually have no idea.


a good way to test it though would be to log into EW when there is nobody on in one of the countries, sit in the tower and check the ENY, then jump in a plane and check the ENY and see if it has changed.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 17, 2009, 07:45:03 PM
that has been the topic of debate and speculation many times over..

some believe if your in the tower, you do not effect the ENY, others believe if you effect just by being present, regardless of if you are doing anything or not..  I actually have no idea.


a good way to test it though would be to log into EW when there is nobody on in one of the countries, sit in the tower and check the ENY, then jump in a plane and check the ENY and see if it has changed.

Compare the difference in numbers flying and total versus the ENY and you will discover it is based on the Total numbers of a country. 

It's logical.  Numbers flying are often much closer than total numbers, hence the reason the OP posted this topic to begin with.  Also, numbers flying vary much more quickly over a wider range than total numbers in the arena.  Six or more people on the same side may all get shot down, auger, or end sortie at the same time versus the same number suddenly logging off.


Bad for business?  Kicking people out of your place of business that have paid to be there just because they aren't doing anything while they are there.  How could that be bad for business?

Just randomly disconnect people from the side with the numbers instead.

 :rofl


wrongway
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: vonKrimm on June 17, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
In order to be a Tower Queen, does one need to dress for the part?  Are stilletos required?  How about feather boas, are they allowed or do HTC rules preclued them?
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: stroker71 on June 17, 2009, 08:06:58 PM
Rare Pic of Von and another pilot in some sort of two seat craft!

(http://boxothoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cc_upinsmoke_ms_5.jpg)



Must be a bomber like the P-38  :noid
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Wingnutt on June 17, 2009, 08:15:55 PM
In order to be a Tower Queen, does one need to dress for the part?  Are stilletos required?  How about feather boas, are they allowed or do HTC rules preclued them?

I typically wear nothing but a smile, and a 16oz bud light bottle to cover my cash and prizes.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: vonKrimm on June 17, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Must be a bomber like the P-38  :noid

Attention, Attention!  Stroker71Heavy now arriving at LW Orange Gate 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/txkimberly/3112543058/
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Wingnutt on June 17, 2009, 08:19:10 PM
Attention, Attention!  Stroker71Heavy now arriving at LW Orange Gate 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/txkimberly/3112543058/

I dunno what that is, shoot it.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Enker on June 17, 2009, 09:57:18 PM
Attention, Attention!  Stroker71Heavy now arriving at LW Orange Gate 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/txkimberly/3112543058/
(http://membres.lycos.fr/fredrichung/forum/kill%20it%20with%20fire.jpeg)
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 18, 2009, 10:02:31 AM
Compare the difference in numbers flying and total versus the ENY and you will discover it is based on the Total numbers of a country. 

It's logical.  Numbers flying are often much closer than total numbers, hence the reason the OP posted this topic to begin with.  Also, numbers flying vary much more quickly over a wider range than total numbers in the arena.  Six or more people on the same side may all get shot down, auger, or end sortie at the same time versus the same number suddenly logging off.


Bad for business?  Kicking people out of your place of business that have paid to be there just because they aren't doing anything while they are there.  How could that be bad for business?

Just randomly disconnect people from the side with the numbers instead.

 :rofl


wrongway



Lets not get off on a tangent this would only affect someone who has left and is logged in for a extended period of time, this amount of time would be whatever that HTC would deem a appropriate, 1-hour two-hours whatever. I have logged in many mornings only to find people that were playing the knight before still logged in but have been away for many hours, I have done this myself  :uhoh I'm not proud of this but I would have no issue with timing out and having to relog because of my extended absence.

The other approach would be to only count active people using the same criteria, if someone is in the tower and hasn't had any activity for a extended period of time, as far as I know if your logged into the game you are counted too your sides numbers flying or not.

The way I see this it would make the ENY value counter a more real time number, kind of a fine tuner.
 
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Masherbrum on June 18, 2009, 10:09:31 AM


Lets not get off on a tangent this would only affect someone who has left and is logged in for a extended period of time, this amount of time would be whatever that HTC would deem a appropriate, 1-hour two-hours whatever. I have logged in many mornings only to find people that were playing the knight before still logged in but have been away for many hours, I have done this myself  :uhoh I'm not proud of this but I would have no issue with timing out and having to relog because of my extended absence.

The other approach would be to only count active people using the same criteria, if someone is in the tower and hasn't had any activity for a extended period of time, as far as I know if your logged into the game you are counted too your sides numbers flying or not.

The way I see this it would make the ENY value counter a more real time number, kind of a fine tuner.

Two things, but it's simple.   If you fly the La7 and depend on it for kills, either switch arenas or countries.   Booting people to accommodate a person "depending" on the availability is ludicrous.   That person made a CHOICE to fly the plane.  To make up another excuse and deny the simple choice in the first place, is nothing less than ignorant.   
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: VonMessa on June 18, 2009, 12:45:26 PM
Must be a bomber like the P-38  :noid

You must be mistaken.  You see, in our geschwader, if it doesn't have balkenkreuz, we do not fly it. (except the occasional Stromboli)
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 18, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
Two things, but it's simple.   If you fly the La7 and depend on it for kills, either switch arenas or countries.   Booting people to accommodate a person "depending" on the availability is ludicrous.   That person made a CHOICE to fly the plane.  To make up another excuse and deny the simple choice in the first place, is nothing less than ignorant.   


This has nothing to do with what I want to fly this has to do with people staying logged in and causing a false ENY value for actual people that are active.
To not read what I'm writing is nothing less than ignorant.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 18, 2009, 06:11:35 PM

This has nothing to do with what I want to fly this has to do with people staying logged in and causing a false ENY value for actual people that are active.


...Which makes a difference why?

Enlighten us.


wrongway
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 19, 2009, 09:46:48 AM
...Which makes a difference why?

Enlighten us.


wrongway

It makes a difference when HTC says it is always looking for the best way to balance the arena's, eventhough ENY does work, it would be prudent to be able to fine tune it a bit, which this would do by discounting the people that are what HTC would consider excessive inactivity or AFK and wouldn't this also be easier on the servers as a added benefit.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: VonMessa on June 19, 2009, 10:58:22 AM
To be totally honest, ENY doesn't effect me that much.

There are not too many times that ENY won't let fly a 109 or a 190A-8.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 19, 2009, 11:35:32 AM
To be totally honest, ENY doesn't effect me that much.

There are not too many times that ENY won't let fly a 109 or a 190A-8.



Not the point, ENY is based on the amount of people logged into the arena, not on how many are inactive or active.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: Enker on June 19, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
Yesterday, in Blue (Orange?) ENY was at 22.something, with the Rooks having 66 people as opposed to the bishops having 45 and knights having 41. However, the inflight #'s for Rook was 39, the bishops having 41 and knights having 40. This is why we should have ENY based on the number of those in flight.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: StokesAk on June 19, 2009, 01:28:30 PM
No, if you care so much about ENY dont fly on the country.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 20, 2009, 07:45:34 AM
No, if you care so much about ENY dont fly on the country.


You are missing the point, it is not about switching counties it is about a more accurate accounting of logged in and active verses logged in and inactive, that's it.
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: wsveum on June 20, 2009, 10:58:04 AM
Well I'm new to the game, only been playing for about 8 months. I have notices that AH is played more like an arcade game and a little like a Sims game.  A lot of players after getting 2 kills run back to a base to land them to get credit for the kills, so that is where the arcade play comes in. High score to get top player for the tour. Bombing tanks and camping spawns to help score all are things in arcade type play.  But it does take practice to dive bomb GV's. It all has to do with arcade type play. Plus sometime bombing tanks and camping a spawn has to be done to defend a base. That could be called military strategy.  It is a little off talking about Tower Queens but it is all part of playing with many different types of people from all around the globe. HTC is just putting and arcade type game out there that has a little sims to it for all types of people to play and have fun doing and playing your way.  I love playing the game with all the things that make me a little mad, like being bombed in a GV or being shot down in a bomber will after I have drop my bombs and I'm just going to land. Being kill at a spawn camper. I just have to keep telling that is how that person has fun playing the game too. So each person has is own style of play and that what makes this so much fun to play. You never know what will be around the next corner. There are things I would like to see changed too. But I just try to adapted to the way the game is being played at the time I'm on. The game is not prefect for in everyone's eyes But it sure keeps me coming back to try and get better in the way I play the game.   
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: DCCBOSS on June 20, 2009, 11:38:33 AM
Well I'm new to the game, only been playing for about 8 months. I have notices that AH is played more like an arcade game and a little like a Sims game.  A lot of players after getting 2 kills run back to a base to land them to get credit for the kills, so that is where the arcade play comes in. High score to get top player for the tour. Bombing tanks and camping spawns to help score all are things in arcade type play.  But it does take practice to dive bomb GV's. It all has to do with arcade type play. Plus sometime bombing tanks and camping a spawn has to be done to defend a base. That could be called military strategy.  It is a little off talking about Tower Queens but it is all part of playing with many different types of people from all around the globe. HTC is just putting and arcade type game out there that has a little sims to it for all types of people to play and have fun doing and playing your way.  I love playing the game with all the things that make me a little mad, like being bombed in a GV or being shot down in a bomber will after I have drop my bombs and I'm just going to land. Being kill at a spawn camper. I just have to keep telling that is how that person has fun playing the game too. So each person has is own style of play and that what makes this so much fun to play. You never know what will be around the next corner. There are things I would like to see changed too. But I just try to adapted to the way the game is being played at the time I'm on. The game is not prefect for in everyone's eyes But it sure keeps me coming back to try and get better in the way I play the game. 




And what does this statment have to with this post?  :huh  
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: VonMessa on June 22, 2009, 09:03:19 AM


Not the point, ENY is based on the amount of people logged into the arena, not on how many are inactive or active.

As I pay very little attention to what the state of the ENY is, I don't really know too much about it.  Please pardon my ignorance.

What else does it affect, besides the type of plane you can fly (dependent upon the ENY at the time) ?
Title: Re: Tower queens
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 22, 2009, 07:41:32 PM
As I pay very little attention to what the state of the ENY is, I don't really know too much about it.  Please pardon my ignorance.

What else does it affect, besides the type of plane you can fly (dependent upon the ENY at the time) ?

How many poinst you get fer killun the other guys.

(that "multiplyer" thingy)

 :x


wrongway