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Title: Getting weird out there
Post by: RufusLeaking on June 18, 2009, 02:40:02 PM
From Reuters news service:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE55H4Z220090618

These people (PETA) need a hobby. 

So one should not use penicillin to 'execute' an infection?
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: akusher on June 18, 2009, 02:48:54 PM
For a group of people who shamelessly slaughter tons of helpless plants on a daily basis, then murder billions upon billions of dust mite during their semi-weekly showing rituals, I think that these statements are the definition of hypocrisy.

I mean just last year i saw a PETA rally outside of a Nordstroms. They were carrying signs made of wood and paper! And they were walking on the ground without the least bit of concern for the insects and microorganisms that they were without a doubt stomping under their feet. At one point, a frightened squirrel, spooked by the miniature-stampede, made a bee-line for a nearby...

God only knows the psychological trauma the little rodent must have felt, and how this affected his home, family and friends.

Somebody needs to speak up for the rights of all these victims, and it's high time that PETA face the music in their rampant disregard for life, nature and the ecosystem.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Denholm on June 18, 2009, 02:53:32 PM
Place members of PETA in the same cage with a Gorilla and they're bound to understand that animals are not as important as humans.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: OOZ662 on June 18, 2009, 03:00:20 PM
Reminds of a certain raid...
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 03:09:13 PM
Denholm, they would use their apposable thumbs to free the gorillas, you would have to weld the cage shut, and that in and of itself would raise a stink with the media. As long as PETA dosent do anything illegal no one can do anything about them. Oh sure you could complain and crap like that but that won't do much if anything. The real problem is that PETA has no perspective of how rediculsouly far they are taking this whole "protect the animals" crap. I am not saying we should look the other way to pochers or over hunting or anything. But the fact remains that if there are to many animals in a habitat they will exaust it's resorces and starve to death.
Now PETA, you tell me, would you rather see animals killed quick and painlessly or suffer weeks of starvation. AND tell me wether you would choose between a bear and a human heck, tell me what your choice would be between yourselvs or an animal.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: sluggish on June 18, 2009, 03:16:47 PM
Denholm, they would use their apposable thumbs to free the gorillas, you would have to weld the cage shut, and that in and of itself would raise a stink with the media. As long as PETA dosent do anything illegal no one can do anything about them. Oh sure you could complain and crap like that but that won't do much if anything. The real problem is that PETA has no perspective of how rediculsouly far they are taking this whole "protect the animals" crap. I am not saying we should look the other way to pochers or over hunting or anything. But the fact remains that if there are to many animals in a habitat they will exaust it's resorces and starve to death.
Now PETA, you tell me, would you rather see animals killed quick and painlessly or suffer weeks of starvation. AND tell me wether you would choose between a bear and a human heck, tell me what your choice would be between yourselvs or an animal.

All good points but PETA would retort with the fact that the reason the animals would starve to death is because of man's encroachment and destruction of their natural habitat.  The ONLY way to right this horrible wrong is to reduce man's footprint by about 9/10.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 18, 2009, 04:10:22 PM
9/10ths!!!! those guys would say we should live like monkeys or crap like that. I'm sorry but PETA is an IDIOT!!! PETA, if you guys really belive the things you say then you care not at all for self preservation. And bases on how much land we have taken from animals we should only reduce our foot print by 3/10ths at best. Or would you propose we put a limit on how many children you can have like China? As soon as you can find a solution that wont cause undue inconviniences, increaces in mortality rate due to dangers that come from living in the wild and a way for us to get protien from things that actually tast good then I will hop on board.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 18, 2009, 07:52:52 PM
What is their position on wolves eating bunnies?

What I haven't heard from PETA in years is about how they oppose pet ownership of any sort.  All those animal loving pet owners who support PETA.... Hmmmmm.


wrongway
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: allaire on June 19, 2009, 09:10:24 AM
Hell they support groups like ALF and ELF which are declared Eco terrorist groups by the FBI.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Saxman on June 19, 2009, 10:08:44 AM
What is their position on wolves eating bunnies?

wrongway

Considering the fit PETA raised with PetCo about feeding live mice to pythons, I'm convinced they'd sue a lion for taking down a wildebeast.

Anyone else see where they're exploiting Che Guevara's image by having his granddaughter pose semi-nude for one of their ads, complete with beret and bandoliers stuffed with carrots? Yeah, nothing says "SAVE THE ANIMALS!" like a Marxist revolutionary. :p
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 11:25:05 AM
If you ask me, groups like PETA, ALF, and ELF are just hurting their cause everytime they do something stupid like the whole Obama-fly thing. Oh, have any of you seen that show Whale Wars? It actually films people preforming acts of piracy. Oh my god, I forgot until now, in one episode, the captain of the ship pretended to get shot; he was on the deck of a ship wearing a bullet proof vest, and when he went inside his ship he said "woh, I've been shot" or words to that effect. If you have ever been inside a bullet proof vest and been shot then you will know about it. It still leaves bruises every time you take a bullet. And it couldn't have been more than 75 yds, 100 MAX unless the angle the camera had kinda gives a false impression.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: akusher on June 19, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
PETA may hurt the credibility of the animal rights lobby, but they also bring enough attention to the topic to justify their existence. That's the problem, because as stupid as they are, they've mastered the art of drawing media coverage.

As long as regular people keep responding, commenting and shaking their heads at how ridiculous PETA is, their efforts are not wasted.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 12:03:41 PM
Akusher, you are right. But I doubt 10 or 12 more people commenting on them in an online forum for a video game will hurt anything. But still, if you ask me someones navy should wait for that whale wars boat and arrest them or whatever they do, for piracy. They even have recordings of it, hell, they broadcast them engaging in acts of piracy on T.V.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: akusher on June 19, 2009, 12:13:29 PM
Akusher, you are right. But I doubt 10 or 12 more people commenting on them in an online forum for a video game will hurt anything. But still, if you ask me someones navy should wait for that whale wars boat and arrest them or whatever they do, for piracy. They even have recordings of it, hell, they broadcast them engaging in acts of piracy on T.V.

No, I wasn't referring to this thread... Although it is a symptom of the grander problem. 10 or 12 guys poking fun at them doesn't account for much, but when their outlandish brand of attention-whoring hits the news, and thousands of people start doing the same thing, I can guarantee you that their website hit-counter spikes that day.

You can arrest them, and it'll create an even bigger media circus. Remember some years back when the French Navy sank a ship owned by Greenpeace? It was a victory for Greenpeace and a public-relations fiasco for the French.

The media is today's most powerful weapon. It's the only way that a terrorist organization can capture the attention of the world, and even a good deal of its sympathy. It's the reason why as good as our intentions may be, the fanatics will always make us look bad.

Don't get me wrong... I don't know of a counterattack to this. Asking regular folks to ignore the things they see and hear is pointless, and erasing the fanatic elements of society so that they no longer have a voice is downright tyrannical. All we can do is stand our ground, stand up for our rights, try to be civil and intelligent and hope for the best.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 12:23:10 PM
I agree, but what the whole Whale Wars people are doing is ILLEGAL. Ya, ILLEGAL. I'm sorry, but we shouldn't tolerate organizations who break the law any more than we should tolerate armed robbery or assult. The ALF group was declared an Eco terrorist group, I don't think we should tolerate that kinda crap. If you want to protest, film "inhumane things" that are being "done" to animals then fine by me, but once you board a ship and start throwing things at them then you have just made yourself a criminal in my eyes. I have nothing against PETA, well other than I think they are idiots, but ALF is pretty much a criminal organization.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: akusher on June 19, 2009, 12:38:44 PM
I agree, but what the whole Whale Wars people are doing is ILLEGAL. Ya, ILLEGAL. I'm sorry, but we shouldn't tolerate organizations who break the law any more than we should tolerate armed robbery or assult. The ALF group was declared an Eco terrorist group, I don't think we should tolerate that kinda crap. If you want to protest, film "inhumane things" that are being "done" to animals then fine by me, but once you board a ship and start throwing things at them then you have just made yourself a criminal in my eyes. I have nothing against PETA, well other than I think they are idiots, but ALF is pretty much a criminal organization.

I just had a look at their website... Looks like Hamas posing with a bunch of puppies and bunny rabbits.

If they break the law, they should always be prosecuted. Fairly, within the constraints of constitutional due process, but prosecuted nonetheless. Lawyers like Bill Kunstler (thankfully dead now) will come out of the woodwork, but if it's done within the system, the media will not be able to play up the oppression aspect to a degree that will sway anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence..

I honestly think that deep down inside, these people have too little to do and too few real problems to deal with. Otherwise they wouldn't be dressing up in costumes and petting bunny rabbits for the camera.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: sluggish on June 19, 2009, 01:23:32 PM
Anyone have a link to that letter they wrote to Ben and Jerry's telling them they should use mother's milk rather than torture cows for their milk?  That was hilarious.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: BoilerDown on June 19, 2009, 01:32:34 PM
If you ask me, groups like PETA, ALF, and ELF are just hurting their cause everytime they do something stupid like the whole Obama-fly thing. Oh, have any of you seen that show Whale Wars? It actually films people preforming acts of piracy. Oh my god, I forgot until now, in one episode, the captain of the ship pretended to get shot; he was on the deck of a ship wearing a bullet proof vest, and when he went inside his ship he said "woh, I've been shot" or words to that effect. If you have ever been inside a bullet proof vest and been shot then you will know about it. It still leaves bruises every time you take a bullet. And it couldn't have been more than 75 yds, 100 MAX unless the angle the camera had kinda gives a false impression.

Whale Wars is some great entertainment.  I'm surprised they haven't gotten anyone killed yet.  Watching them trying to launch their kodiaks, the frat boy mentality of throwing crap at whale boats, their "away teams" that don't check in so everyone else thinks they're dead until an hour later when they come back and wonder why everyone is so upset.  The unprofessionalism of everyone other than the helicopter pilot and the second mate is so astounding that its a wonder they've survived this long.

In the last episode, they've gotten themselves trapped by antarctic sea ice... its so bad an Animal Planet camera man shooting the ice deforming the hull in the bottom hold said "screw it I'm out of here" and left his camera rolling on the floor to capture the water rushing in if the hull breaks.  He thought he was going to die there.  I've watched enough Deadliest Catch to know how much toejam they're in, and how stupid the captain of their boat was for putting them in the mess.

I'm just afraid the boat is going to go down one of these seasons, and due to the remoteness, a perfectly good Animal Planet camera crew will be lost at sea.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 19, 2009, 03:30:54 PM
I respect the animal planet film crews on that boat. If the whale wars people piss off the Japanese enough they might start bringing guns or something, or ram the whale wars boat or something. And a testament to how stupid the whole thing is, is that (if I have watched enought even thought it is only like 30 shows for me) it appears that the crew looses a few members eveytime the go to port :lol! I serisouly think that if they stir up the Japs (not ment to be abusive or anything, just making sure you all know, just tired of writing Japanese all the time) enough then something bad will happen. But at least do some reasearch first; if you are shot with a bullet proof jacket on, you will know about it and will be bruised.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: MORAY37 on June 20, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
I agree, but what the whole Whale Wars people are doing is ILLEGAL. Ya, ILLEGAL. I'm sorry, but we shouldn't tolerate organizations who break the law any more than we should tolerate armed robbery or assult. The ALF group was declared an Eco terrorist group, I don't think we should tolerate that kinda crap. If you want to protest, film "inhumane things" that are being "done" to animals then fine by me, but once you board a ship and start throwing things at them then you have just made yourself a criminal in my eyes. I have nothing against PETA, well other than I think they are idiots, but ALF is pretty much a criminal organization.

The "Whale Wars" will not end well.  I've said this many times.  Complete ineptitude.  Complete disregard for shipping law.  Complete disregard for crew safety. There will be a ship sinking, and people will die.... either them or a Japanese whaler.  I detest the taking of marine mammals for commercial reasons.  But I can't even close to support those idiots.  Steve Irwin is rolling in his grave, with his name on that ship.
 
Who goes to Antarctica in a ship with an ice rating of 0 (zero)?  Morons without a clear idea or a plan.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: moot on June 20, 2009, 03:48:21 AM
Ratings schmatings.  :rolleyes:  It's just ice, aka water.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Selino631 on June 20, 2009, 06:53:09 AM
PETA makes me sick. I went on there site once to rant, so i started posting stuff about beef and i immideitly got angry replys. I also mentioned that the human race are in a form, Animals. and a Lion will eat a gazell, yet they said a animal eating another animal is ok, but a human should know better and we can live without meat! I tryed to explain them the Food Pyrimad and that meat is very healthy, but they said its blasphemy.  :huh
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: RipChord929 on June 20, 2009, 07:04:41 AM
I LOVE animals!!!
So much so, that I eat them, wear their skins, and display their magnificent countenance on the walls of my gameroom!!!

I wouldn't place PETA members at that high a value...
They're just fertilizer!!!   :huh

Here's a thought, Why don't the Nipponese whalers hire some Somalian pirates
To deal with the "Irwin".... Now THAT would be comical!!!
Would make for some great TV... LOL!


RC
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 20, 2009, 06:35:19 PM
I still say that someones navy or something shoud intevien, they are engaging in criminol acts (they boreded one of the Jap ships and were taken "hostage" by the Jap crew. At least that is the whoopee sea shepards spin on things. If I had been incharge of that Japanese ship, I would  have headed strait for Japan just to scare them :t. And the Somalians wouldn't "deal" with it, they would steal it and leave the crew in a life raft :D. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch a guys!!!
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Wingnutt on June 21, 2009, 11:46:56 AM
Hell they support groups like ALF and ELF which are declared Eco terrorist groups by the FBI.

what the hell did ALF ever do?

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070816/aliens/alf_l.jpg)


finally eat someone's cat?
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: allaire on June 21, 2009, 01:43:30 PM
Animal Liberation Front just another of your everyday eco-terror groups. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: AApache on June 21, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
yes they need a life indeed
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: xbrit on June 21, 2009, 10:45:25 PM
Anyone got a link to the famous PETA raid?
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: TonyJoey on June 21, 2009, 11:43:23 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl

Such a violent fly execution. They gonna send those millions of kids who have burned ants w/a magnifying glass to prison now? :rofl
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: TonyJoey on June 21, 2009, 11:48:01 PM
what the hell did ALF ever do?

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070816/aliens/alf_l.jpg)


finally eat someone's cat?

 :rofl :rofl I love that show. :rofl
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 22, 2009, 11:16:14 AM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

Such a violent fly execution. They gonna send those millions of kids who have burned ants w/a magnifying glass to prison now? :rofl

That would be hilarious!!!   Of course then about half of us....wait, probably all of us, would go to jail for killing some sort of insect or arachnid in AT LEAST one point of our lives.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: xbrit on June 22, 2009, 11:49:05 AM
ok this was the last time fun was had with the PETA folks.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,138115.0.html
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 22, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
I vote we pull another one of those raids. It sounds like fun. And you get to annoy eco terrorist sympathizers unless they have a system symilar to ours where they can lock your profile.

Whose with me. Lets get a head count then decide on a date and time.


OMG!!! It would be funny if those idiots found where we are from and all join the AH2 forum and try to trash us!!! :rofl
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: akusher on June 22, 2009, 12:31:13 PM
I vote we pull another one of those raids. It sounds like fun. And you get to annoy eco terrorist sympathizers unless they have a system symilar to ours where they can lock your profile.

Whose with me. Lets get a head count then decide on a date and time.


OMG!!! It would be funny if those idiots found where we are from and all join the AH2 forum and try to trash us!!! :rofl

I'm in. PETA's worth their weight in Tofu just for their sheer entertainment value.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: allaire on June 22, 2009, 12:42:56 PM
If you are going to get people together for another raid start a separate thread.  To make it even funnier and detrimental to the poor Peta kids let it drop that you are all from the Flame Warrior BBS. :rofl
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 22, 2009, 12:57:43 PM
Great idea allaire, I will. But letting it slip that we are all the flame warrior might cause some trouble for that guy.
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Shuffler on June 22, 2009, 05:51:23 PM
Don't bring them here either............
Title: Re: Getting weird out there
Post by: Nemisis on June 24, 2009, 02:09:52 PM
That was just a joke Shuff, don't worry, I'm not stupid.