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Title: Yak 3
Post by: waystin2 on June 19, 2009, 12:06:54 PM
I wish for the Yak-3 Preferably the P model which had about 596 built.

(http://yakassociation.nl/userfiles/Image/about_yak3_1.jpg)
Maximum speed: 646 km/h (401 mph)
Range: 650 km (405 miles)
Service ceiling: 10,700 m (35,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.5 m/s (3,645 ft/min)
Wing loading: 181 kg/m² (36.7 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.36 kW/kg (0.22 hp/lb)
Armament


1 × 20 mm ShVAK cannon,
2 × 12.7 mm Berezin UBS machine guns
(Yak-3P armament-3 × 20 mm Berezin B-20 cannons)



Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
It's a faster, smaller Yak 9U.  What would it add other than being faster and smaller?

While I'm not against adding any plane, don't really see the need for another Late War Uber plane.

Yes, I would fly it.


wrongway
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: waystin2 on June 19, 2009, 02:20:32 PM
Yes, I would fly it.

I see a reason Wrongway!  You would fly it!  What better reason do you need?  :D
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: BillyD on June 19, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
             :O  This may have been the best fighter of WW2 on any front according to alot of folks who fought with them and against them, so of course it deserves it's place here in the game. Perk it lightly like a spit XIV and let the games begin :)
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Krusty on June 19, 2009, 02:43:15 PM
What he doesn't say is that the Yak-3 is reported to turn as well as (if not better than) a spitfire. Would definitely take up 33% or more of the entire arena if ever released unperked.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Slade on June 19, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Please give us the Yak-3.

+1  :aok

Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: waystin2 on June 19, 2009, 04:35:57 PM
What he doesn't say is that the Yak-3 is reported to turn as well as (if not better than) a spitfire. Would definitely take up 33% or more of the entire arena if ever released unperked.

I have no doubt that it is going to be a perked ride.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Motherland on June 19, 2009, 05:01:40 PM
It's a faster, smaller Yak 9U.  What would it add other than being faster and smaller?
It would add another fighter to the most under-represented air force in the game? The VVS only has two domestic fighters in it's late war set.


According to wikipedia the P model only entered production in April 1945 (a month before the war ended), which lasted until mid 1946. I doubt we'd get the P, then, but we have the 3x Berezin La 7 so I wouldn't rule it out...
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: straffo on June 19, 2009, 05:30:29 PM
What he doesn't say is that the Yak-3 is reported to turn as well as (if not better than) a spitfire. Would definitely take up 33% or more of the entire arena if ever released unperked.

Even with the standard anaemic ammo count of the Russian planes ? I seriously doubt.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: straffo on June 19, 2009, 05:31:51 PM
It would add another fighter to the most under-represented air force in the game? The VVS only has two domestic fighters in it's late war set.


According to wikipedia the P model only entered production in April 1945 (a month before the war ended), which lasted until mid 1946. I doubt we'd get the P, then, but we have the 3x Berezin La 7 so I wouldn't rule it out...

April is one month before august ?
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 19, 2009, 05:32:15 PM
Even with the standard anaemic ammo count of the Russian planes ? I seriously doubt.

I was about to disagree with you  but you are probably right.  More of an ENY 5 plane probably.  Almost perked.

April is one month before august ?

Referring to the was in Yurp, I'm sure.  May....?


wrongway
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: straffo on June 19, 2009, 05:46:08 PM
In theory the Soviet also where at war with Japan but I'm nit picking as their contribution to victory was almost null  :)
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Rich46yo on June 19, 2009, 06:01:52 PM
Bring it on. :aok I prefer the "feel" of the Yaks to the LAs. Tho I dont know why you would perk the Yak-3p.

Yak-3P year-1944 engine-M-105PF2 armament-B-20M & 2 B-20S 370 20mm rounds altogether Load 0 Speed sea level-572 KMPH speed at Alt 646 at 3900 climb to 5km- 4.8 mins turn-19 seconds climb turn-1400 meters ceiling 10.05 KM range 610km weight 2708kg produced-596

LA-7 year-1945 engine M-82FN armament- 3 B-20S 450 rounds total load 2 FAB-100kg bombs speed sea level 615 KMPH speed at Alt 670kmph at 6000 climb to 5km 4.3 minutes Range 635km ceiling 10.5km turn time 10.5 seconds weight 3300

So the unperked 3 cannon LA-7 carrys more 20mm rounds, is faster both at sea level and alt, climbs better, turns better "close", carries ords while the Yak doesn't, and has more range. So why would you perk the Yak?

In fact the Yak-9U outperforms the 3P in speed and climbs/turns about the same. The only difference is, of course, the 3 cannon.

Which would earn the Yak-3P a 5 eny, or close, but certainly no perk price.
http://wio.ru/tacftr/lag.htm
http://wio.ru/tacftr/yak.htm
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Enker on June 19, 2009, 06:52:57 PM
Even with the standard anaemic ammo count of the Russian planes ? I seriously doubt.
Its not anemic, it only holds the amount of ammo needed to maneuver and take shots you know you will and can make.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Bruv119 on June 20, 2009, 12:44:19 AM
I genuinely believe this will be in the update somewhere.   As a kick bellybutton fighter hasnt been added since the Spit 16.

If the la7 and spit 16 aren't perked I dont see why this would be with such a pitiful ammo load out (the majority of AH population cant hit a barn door)  let alone a small nimble little fighter such as a yak).  It will be frickin fast and manouvreable though.  The prop equivalent of the  ME163.    :devil
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: texastc316 on June 20, 2009, 02:03:40 AM
so we ll get yakdweebs then?
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Noir on June 20, 2009, 06:17:49 AM
we've already got a few ! (no pun)
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Cajunn on June 20, 2009, 07:39:31 PM
+2 I like the Yak, and maybe a graphic update for the ones we already have.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 20, 2009, 07:51:44 PM
+2 I like the Yak, and maybe a graphic update for the ones we already have.

I keep -1 ing a graphic update.  I can see great now.  I can move my head where I want now.  Seems with every graphic update I can't get the views I had before the update.

My biggest beef with the P-39 is it seems I can't move around inside the cockpit as much as in older aircraft.  I know they fixed the "limited" head movement with one of the graphically updated planes.  F4U or F6 or something.  Don't remember ATM.

Wish they'd fix that on the P-39.

wrongway
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Cajunn on June 21, 2009, 02:20:56 PM
I keep -1 ing a graphic update.  I can see great now.  I can move my head where I want now.  Seems with every graphic update I can't get the views I had before the update.

My biggest beef with the P-39 is it seems I can't move around inside the cockpit as much as in older aircraft.  I know they fixed the "limited" head movement with one of the graphically updated planes.  F4U or F6 or something.  Don't remember ATM.

Wish they'd fix that on the P-39.

wrongway

Yea I know what you mean didn't we lose some viability in  the La5&7? But I still would like the Yak3 added.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Rich46yo on June 21, 2009, 02:49:11 PM
I'd love to see the Yak-3. I'd love to see as many Soviet air force planes as possible.

But if we got the Yak-3P and the TU-2 bomber I'd be in Hog heaven. http://wio.ru/ww2a.htm enjoy the sight.

The TU-2S was a Soviet level bomber that had a top speed of 340mph at 17,000' and a sea level speed of 300 mph. It carried 2 basic bombloads of 4 2,204 lb bombs or 8 1,102 bombs, "thats twice the amount of the B-26". It was well protected with 3 0.50 cal guns in the tail, dorsal, ventral, and 2 20mm cannon in the wings. It had a range of 1,300 miles.

THIS is a serious airplane. Frankly Im kinda surprised and dissapointed its not in the game yet.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: TonyJoey on June 21, 2009, 03:01:22 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Scrap13 on July 25, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
I have to keep this topic up.. We could use a Yak-3, P model would be prefered    :aok :aok
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Bino on July 25, 2009, 05:35:51 PM
In order to fill out the Early-War and Mid-War plane sets for events, I hope we might have the Yak-1 and Yak-7 series added...

(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/VVS1/Yak-7-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: WWhiskey on July 25, 2009, 06:10:39 PM
YAK-3and the
P-47/M have been on my list for some time
, they both represent the hotrods of the war!
  i also like the yaks better than the La just because of the visability, to me it just sems like one of the easiest planes to see out of, and it will definatly make you a better shot, simply because it has little ammo, to waste,  if the 3 turns as well as the spit, combined with its, awsome exelaration, back to speed, she might give them darn spit -tards a run for there money!
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Dantoo on July 25, 2009, 06:29:23 PM
The Yak3 that displayed at Duxford last year was simply awesome. 

On display there were Merlin and Griffon Spits, P51s and F6Fs and all manner of such planes in solid numbers.  The Yak 3 stood out remarkably.  It was seriously fast and turned like milk in the hot sun with sprightly rate of roll.  The only plane there that equalled (and possibly humbled) it was the F8F.

You can join in one of its displays it gave right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN1-5BP0xSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN1-5BP0xSU)
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: FireDrgn on July 27, 2009, 12:09:55 AM
I dont think the yak would get 33%  I would like to see it .. it was on the vote list as well as the g55 which i would like to see as well.

It does not have enough ammo for it to get 33%  Most spit 16 flyers have very little acm knowlege and less gunnery skills.   They would take it out a few times get killed and be back in the spit or runstang.
Title: Re: Yak 3
Post by: Enker on July 27, 2009, 12:59:43 AM
I dont think the yak would get 33%  I would like to see it .. it was on the vote list as well as the g55 which i would like to see as well.

It does not have enough ammo for it to get 33%  Most spit 16 flyers have very little acm knowlege and less gunnery skills.   They would take it out a few times get killed and be back in the spit or runstang.
It would be the single-engined 38 then.