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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Latrobe on June 20, 2009, 11:11:28 PM
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What do you recommened as a good Flight pedal? I got a CH Pedal in Janurary, but they no longer work correctly anymore. I'm looking for a Flight Pedal that will not break in just 5 months, easy to use, and possibly cheap (but if they're expensive, then I'll buy them).
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If they just broke in January, call CH and they will fix them for nothing.
I've never heard of CH pedals breaking, except for the toe brake wire. Either way, no point in buying a new set when they will fix it.
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I got the pedals in Janurary, the no longer work today (June). Nothing is broken off of it, it just dosen't work in-game anymore. I'd be flying around normal, and then I'd notice I'm starting to slid right. I look back and I'm flying with full right rudder, and I'm not even touching the pedals (in fact my feet aren't even on the pedals). I figure it needs calibrating, so I do a quick calibrate. Fine for about 2 minutes before the problem occurs again, but this time it's full left rudder. This goes on through each sortie, rudder left, rudder right, and even sometimes I get no rudder responce whatsoever. Just today I got into a fight with Mensa (maybe Shuffler or Fringe, they were flying around causing chaos too ;) ). I knew I had more E, so I went vertical and waited for him to stall. About 1000 off me he stalled, so I tried to kicked my rudder left so I could come down on him to try and get a shot in. However, my rudder seems to have stopped working, and no matter which way I turn my rudder pedals I get no response. So I had to wait till I stalled out, and by that time my window of opportunity was gone. He ended up shooting me down, but I may have gotten a lucky shot if my rudder worked for me.
Anyways. I've re-calibrated it many times over (ingame and desktop), tried unplugging it then plugging it back in then calibrate, tried other USB ports, etc etc. Anything that could possibly be wrong, I've checked. I think that the pedals are just worn out too much. I kinda do beat on them a bit more than I should (but who doesn't jam full rudder when they notice a niki 800 off their six? :D )
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What Delirium said. You just can't beat CH, MADE IN THE USA, peddles.
I have had the fighter stick, pro throttle, & peddles for almost 2 1/2 years and I have had no problems.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u7/rattfink31/CH-ub.jpg)
^ I made this in photoshop when these things were popular :)
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In the meantime, you can set one of your toggle switches or any HOTAS to a rudder.
I used the ""mouse button"" on my CH throttle for this when I was saving money for the peddles. :D
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Latrobe,
I had the same problem with CH pedals. CH had me send them in, they replaced the power cord. They said that everything else was working properly. Well, after a short period of time, I had the same problem again. Threw em away, ordered another set of CH ped's.......SAME darn problem. I could calibrate them, and they would work great for a few sorties, then one side or the other would go out of calibration. Called CH again, advised them of the problem and was told to send them in. UGH....forget it, threw em in a box and promptly ordered a set of Saitek pedals. The Saitek's have performed flawlessly for me. They also feel alot more comfortable, they are adjustable and are solid. I am more than happy with the Saitek's.
On the other hand, my CH stick has been flawless for many years...........
Rob
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CH peds here, have been faultless for nearly 2 years of usage. Haven't had to re-calibrate once.
Guess you boys got unlucky.
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Do you have the CM Control Manager installed. That is what you need to calibrate all CH products with. If you just use the windows calibrator you will probably have issues.
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Saitek Pedals. I like them better than both sets of CH that I own.
Infidelz
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I've had this set of CH pedals for over 3 years, and the ones before that for over 7, never any trouble with either of them. The only reason I bought the second pair was to switch to USB.
I don't KNOW that the CH software could be an issue as I've always used it for mine. I do KNOW that a powered USB is very important. If you have more than a couple of things plugged into your USB ports you could be starving them of power and you are seeing the trouble in the pedals. The other thing I would check is in the "device manager" in windows, be sure the USB ports are NOT set up for power saving. right click on the USB HUB headings, select properties, then power management. Un-check "allow computer to turn this off to save power"
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I have Saitek's and they've worked group for over two years. As Fugitive says though, a powered USB hub is pretty much essential to preclude problems. As a second note, the Saitek's are wider and heavier than the CH versions and are adjustable.
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Been using Saitek pedals for a little over a year. Only problem I have ever had was when my oldest dayghter was on the computer and thought the pedals would make a good foot rest. Apparently she stepped on the right toe brake hard enough to cause a gear to pop 1 tooth forward.
It would cause right braking all the time. Drove me crazy until I finally broke down and took the right pedal apart and fixed it. Took about ten minutes.
Other then that, my Saitek pedals have worked great.
On a side note, when I bought my pedals, I chose the Saitek over the CH simply because they use a wider "stance" and feel more natural to me.
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Latrobe,
I had the same problem with CH pedals. CH had me send them in, they replaced the power cord. They said that everything else was working properly. Well, after a short period of time, I had the same problem again. Threw em away, ordered another set of CH ped's.......SAME darn problem. I could calibrate them, and they would work great for a few sorties, then one side or the other would go out of calibration. Called CH again, advised them of the problem and was told to send them in. UGH....forget it, threw em in a box and promptly ordered a set of Saitek pedals. The Saitek's have performed flawlessly for me. They also feel alot more comfortable, they are adjustable and are solid. I am more than happy with the Saitek's.
On the other hand, my CH stick has been flawless for many years...........
Rob
I had the same sort of problems with mine. Sent them in a couple of times to get fixed, but they kept doing it. I bought a set of Saitek pedals, and liked them because they were wider and had adjustable tension compared to the CH ones. The only problems with the Saiteks were that I got an early set , and they had a problem with jumping out of the tracks, but after Saitek sent the "do it yourself" fix-it kit, they have problem free for the least few years.
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What Delirium said. You just can't beat CH, MADE IN THE USA, peddles.
Yes you can. SIMPED pedals, made in Germany :)
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Yes you can. SIMPED pedals, made in Germany :)
LOL! :)
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One of the guys in my squad rigged a set out of an old joystick. :D
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Sounds like Saitek is the way to go. Would be a good match too for my Saitek X52 controller. :)
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The Saitek peds are way cheaper than the CH peds as well. Saving for a set myself.
Good luck Latrobe. :salute
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Roo-peds
Up past 5 yrs now and still working..
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A twisty stick provides much better fine control of the rudder than any set of pedal ever could. I wish real airplanes had twisty sticks now.
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A twisty stick provides much better fine control of the rudder than any set of pedal ever could. I wish real airplanes had twisty sticks now.
Not even close.
Pedals give much better control than does a twisty stick. With pedals you don't get any inadvertent input of the rudder when moving the stick like you do with a twisty. There is greater travel in a set of pedals compared to a twisty stick so a more finite control with the peds.
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A twisty stick provides much better fine control of the rudder than any set of pedal ever could. I wish real airplanes had twisty sticks now.
:O
You're kidding... Right?
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No...I'm not kidding.
I've got over 10,000 in real airplanes including aerobatics.
And I've got about the same amount flying virtual airplanes using both rudder pedals and twisty sticks.
The twisty stick far exceeds the rudder pedal for fine control. Of course, I fly with everything at 100% sensitivity and only need my fingertips.
A bit of pressure gives me full rudder versus moving my foot and trying to achieve precision. No contest.
If you fly with a death grip, white knuckles glowing then a twisty stick isn't going to work well.
I wish real airplanes had twisty sticks. What would be even better (Both real world and virtual) is a rotating axis on the throttle that worked the rudder but I haven't seen anything like that available.
Your feet are for walking and kicking stuff.
I realize folks like the immersion of rudder pedals. I do to but it really isn't a contest when it comes to precise control.
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And there are players that prefer a mouse over any joystick ;)
But for 99% of all people, pedals will allow for much more precise control and much less unwanted cross-controlling.
When I went from twisty to pedals after almost a decade, it was like opening the door to a new level...
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When I went from twisty to pedals after almost a decade, it was like opening the door to a new level...
Same here.
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Yes you can. SIMPED pedals, made in Germany :)
I tried to find a pair of those a year or two ago. As I recall the maker of those had died and the whole production process was on hold. I have not checked since to see if they finally started up production again. They were definitely a top notch product.