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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: l0newolf on June 20, 2009, 11:22:59 PM
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another idea to for a medieum bomber reply please :salute
Heinkel HE111 H6
type: bomber
crew: 5
weight when empty: 19,199 lbs
max weight on takeoff:30,837 lbs
length:57 ft
wingspan:75 ft
height:11 ft
engines: two junkers jumo 211F-2 hanging vee 12 engines with 1,350hp each
max. speed: 270-300 mph at 20,000 ft
service ceiling: 22,300 ft
range: 1,800 miles on full tank
weaponry:
1X 20mm MG/FF cannon in nose 1X MG 151(50. cal) on top
2X MG81(30.cal) in ventral gondola(1 gun facing forward and down other facing backward and down
2X MG81(30.cal) in both waist positions
AND 4 500KG bombs/ 2 1000KG bombs/ 1 2000KG bomb/ 2 800KG torpedos
thank you for veiwing hop you like the idea correct me on any part if im wrong
thanks again :salute :salute :salute
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Why so much of this BS. He is new, therefore he will make mistakes, Machfly, please do not post this kind of stuff, although it is quite funny. Especially if the player is new and trying to help out with his "new" ideas.
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I agree FYB. The "Use search" junkies and others like them really irk me. You've got to realize that some of the newer guys are kids. Kids are not dumb, but they sometimes don't quite understand things.
l0newolf, I think the He-111 would be an excellent addition to Aces High.
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I agree FYB. The "Use search" junkies and others like them really irk me. You've got to realize that some of the newer guys are kids. Kids are not dumb, but they sometimes don't quite understand things.
l0newolf, I think the He-111 would be an excellent addition to Aces High.
+1 to his idea, and a special thanks Banshee.
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And another thing we have to look at: presentation. "l0newolf" didn't post "We relly needz teh He111 n Aces High. it wuld b relly cool." He actually posted some specifications, etc... of the aircraft, unlike 75% or more of the other new guys.
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And another thing we have to look at: presentation. "l0newolf" didn't post "We relly needz teh He111 n Aces High. it wuld b relly cool." He actually posted some specifications, etc... of the aircraft, unlike 75% or more of the other new guys.
:lol Quite true, and also agreed.
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I'm sorry if it offended anyone, but it was a joke and meant to be funny
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No Machfly, you did not offend, and don't worry, it is quite funny. But you have to admit its not very fair to make fun of him if he is new.
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But you have to admit its not very fair to make fun of him if he is new.
no, no, i'm not making fun of him, just saying "use search" in a nice & funny way
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no, no, i'm not making fun of him, just saying "use search" in a nice & funny way
From his point of view, it might not be so nice, just remember to try and give the new guys a break, even they have done something wrong.
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From his point of view, it might not be so nice, just remember to try and give the new guys a break, even they have done something wrong.
I was thinking of just ignoring the repost as I always do to people who repost, but I did not want someone else to come in and say something a lot worth.
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Personally, I don't see a real problem with a plane that would be useful to fill holes in the plane set being re-requested once in awhile. Especially if it is done in an intelligent and respectful manner, such as this one.
+1 :aok
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Your right
Personally, I don't see a real problem with a plane that would be useful to fill holes in the plane set being re-requested once in awhile. Especially if it is done in an intelligent and respectful manner, such as this one.
+1 :aok
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I thought it was funny. :D
:aok on 111.
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I quote:
All I see are statistics. Why should it be included in the game?
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Wow, this is the nicest and most peaceful thread I have ever seen on these boards. With things like "Your right" And "Give the new guys a break". I like it, wtg.
I also support the Idea.
+1 :aok
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It's a beautiful plane and I'd love to fly it and escort it and attack it.
There are many many wonderful skins for that AC and the AvA and scenario guys who cry and laugh in joy if that one was modeled. It's been requested so much and it's such a famous plane, I'd not be surprised to see it in the next few releases (no matter how long those take).
While there are more capable (faster) German Med/Heavy bombers like the Do-217, the He-111 had an excellent reliability and toughness reputation.
It's slow, would be fodder for the Quad Hizooka and 8 gun .50 crowds, but it's a beautiful plane.
Sakai
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+1
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Wow, this is the nicest and most peaceful thread I have ever seen on these boards. With things like "Your right" And "Give the new guys a break". I like it, wtg.
Quoted for truth, this is one friendly thread :)
+1 to the thread
+1 to the wish
+1 to the presentation
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At least we know who made it friendly and peaceful! :D
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:noid
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Would love to see the He-111.
:aok
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+1 :aok
111 would be awesome..
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:noid
You don't count, just kidding, you count! :P
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+1
Need this so it can be shot down by 303's. ;)
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An overdue aircraft imho
+1 :aok
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Wow, this is the nicest and most peaceful thread I have ever seen on these boards. With things like "Your right" And "Give the new guys a break". I like it, wtg.
I know, these guys never cut me that big of a break, I guess they were just sick of B29 threads...for like 3 weeks and should have been able to vent in that amount of time.
Oh, and +100 on the plane, I was a little disappointed when we got the B25 instead of the He111, if those really were the aircraft being chosen from. That's how I remember it anyway. But now I have consoled myself and fly the B25 regularly
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I don't know if anyone in here has been following my "give the people what they want" thread but the 111 is actually the #1 requested plane thus far so you're not alone. Sadly the B-29, only #3 along with the beaufighter but its getting up there. :lol
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+1
Need this so it can be shot down by 303's. ;)
You can barely shoot it down with 8 303's in IL-2. The 303s make more holes in the wing. The craft falls out of the air because it loses lift rather than sawing through the wings. :frown:
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IL2 ballistics vary repeatedly at the whim of the developer, who has swapped lethality values around so much they have no credibility anymore.
There was a period where 50cals did little damage, and the community started screaming for more, so IL2 punched the lethality through the roof, and any hit would bring a target down, then folks started screaming the other way, and so they nerfed them back down again. They've done this with other calibers of weapons as well.
The game is totally arbitrary IMO, and the damage model is kinda messed up as a result. You can unload 1000 30 cal rounds into a target and not do anything but "put holes" in it. -- May disrupt lift, but frankly that's a poor substitute for a decent damage model.
Just to point out I'm not some HTC fanboi, I don't think HTC's is perfect, but Oleg's is as screwy as they come.
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You can barely shoot it down with 8 303's in IL-2. The 303s make more holes in the wing. The craft falls out of the air because it loses lift rather than sawing through the wings. :frown:
I saw an interview with some surviving 111 crewmen who said it was a tough plane, said it always brought us home no matter how shot up. I reckon if you made it home you loved it, if you didn't you went down cursing its design and engineering.
I suppose .303s were not adequate for it except at 200 yards, but 6-8 .50s and cannon would be.
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We most certainly do need an He-111 for the historical realm of this game. As has been mentioned before, the He-111 would also help fill a few gaps preventing some scenarios from being played or being played accurately.
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If I recall correctly the HE-111 was the most produced German bomber of the war. I am surprised it was not in the game years ago. I would like to see it in here some day soon.
R-105
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I'm suprised that the Ar.234 got in the game before it.
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I don't believe it was the most produced. While it was more elegant than the later bombers, it took a MUCH larger number of parts, manhours, rivets, etc, to build than the Ju88 and other models that replaced it.
It was inefficient to build, I mean. That's why I don't think it was the most produced. I think the Ju88 and sub-variants might hold that for "most bombers made by Germany"
EDIT: If you don't quite understand what I mean, look at the curves. It took a lot more parts to make up a smooth curve, a lot more time to fashion/shape them, and a lot more folks to make them and get them onto the plane properly, whereas the Ju88 has a straight-walled (almost square) cross section along the tail and could be created with much less bending, folding, and less parts overall.
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The JU-88 had just over 15000 produced. While 7300 HE-111s were built from 1935 to the end of the war by Germany. Spain built another 300 or so until the HE-111 was pulled out of Spanish service in 1965. At over 7600 HE-111s built it should have been in AH long ago.
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picture picture!! all i need to know is how it look!!!
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Sexiest bomber ever :)
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