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Title: for the newbs
Post by: Dastrdly on June 24, 2009, 02:57:26 PM
used to have better diagrams but this will give guys an idea of how to fly deffensively..... other than pulling around for a ho shot 

any one else have diagrams / directions on this & the merge you are welcome to add.

lets educate rather than get mad at pathetic moves  :rock

http://library.thinkquest.org/3142/manuv.htm
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Bruv119 on June 24, 2009, 02:58:39 PM
I fully support your quest to educate the unwashed masses Dast.    :aok

Good luck   :salute
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Nemisis on June 24, 2009, 03:35:24 PM
You have my support, they need to be educated. Just don't make them feel bad; most of them have the right spirit and their heart in the right place, they just need expirence.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Shuffler on June 24, 2009, 03:39:10 PM
Not all..... but most do not even read the basic directions to play the game. Good luck.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Nemisis on June 24, 2009, 03:57:42 PM
All I said was that they had the right spirit and that they had their hearts in the right place (on the bish side, it is clearly best). I never said they were doing everything they should to help them play.

Tip to the newbs since most won't read the instructions or training corps help info: Don't pick a plane because of it's gun package, that will get you killed if you are not ready for the plane. Try the P51D on your first flight and keep the plane light, don't load up with the biggest bombs and the drop tanks; that got me killed a lot :) (reminiscent smile).
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: shreck on June 24, 2009, 04:05:45 PM
used to have better diagrams but this will give guys an idea of how to fly deffensively..... other than pulling around for a ho shot 

any one else have diagrams / directions on this & the merge you are welcome to add.

lets educate rather than get mad at pathetic moves  :rock

http://library.thinkquest.org/3142/manuv.htm

The HOing from noobs is not an issue! Noob HOing is easily avoided, it is the HOing from experienced AH players that truely is pathetic and unnecessary  :aok
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Becinhu on June 24, 2009, 04:13:16 PM
All I said was that they had the right spirit and that they had their hearts in the right place (on the bish side, it is clearly best). I never said they were doing everything they should to help them play.

Tip to the newbs since most won't read the instructions or training corps help info: Don't pick a plane because of it's gun package, that will get you killed if you are not ready for the plane. Try the P51D on your first flight and keep the plane light, don't load up with the biggest bombs and the drop tanks; that got me killed a lot :) (reminiscent smile).

The p-51 is not the best "first flight" plane by any stretch. Spits and zeros are much more newb friendly. A 51 flown by a 2-weeker is one of the easiest planes to kill.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Nemisis on June 24, 2009, 04:25:14 PM
I said first flight, meaning in the offline practice arena, because it dosen't realy have any quirks that I could find when I first flew it. And the A6M tends to stall easier and maby climb slower was the feeling I first got when I first flew it. Then I panicked and sent it into a stall. For me, the P51 gave a better illusion of control even if it was only an illusion and that kept me from panicking. For online, I agree, about the only reason I got shot down as few times as I did was I loved alt and the P51 is fast.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: kilz on June 24, 2009, 04:32:27 PM
The p-51 is not the best "first flight" plane by any stretch. Spits and zeros are much more newb friendly. A 51 flown by a 2-weeker is one of the easiest planes to kill.

i am a 2 weeker come kill my pony :O
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: kilz on June 24, 2009, 04:34:34 PM
used to have better diagrams but this will give guys an idea of how to fly deffensively..... other than pulling around for a ho shot 

any one else have diagrams / directions on this & the merge you are welcome to add.

lets educate rather than get mad at pathetic moves  :rock

http://library.thinkquest.org/3142/manuv.htm

good post bro  :aok
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Lligaf on June 24, 2009, 05:19:29 PM
Nice post will always take the help.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: ACE on June 24, 2009, 05:33:55 PM
lol nice post  :aok
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: moot on June 24, 2009, 06:17:22 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Basic_Fighter_Maneuvers
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Basic_Fighter_Maneuvers
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Masherbrum on June 24, 2009, 10:04:29 PM
All I said was that they had the right spirit and that they had their hearts in the right place (on the bish side, it is clearly best). I never said they were doing everything they should to help them play.

Tip to the newbs since most won't read the instructions or training corps help info: Don't pick a plane because of it's gun package, that will get you killed if you are not ready for the plane. Try the P51D on your first flight and keep the plane light, don't load up with the biggest bombs and the drop tanks; that got me killed a lot :) (reminiscent smile).

A 51D?    If any person new to the game follows this advice, you're gonna regret it.    Lay the Foundation of Skills in a Spit 8, not a Pony.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: B4Buster on June 24, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
I agree Shuffler. I never read a thing or went into the TA. I used to go for the HO on any occasion I got, as it was the only way I knew to get a gun solution. One time I remember I made a few HO passes at a guy. He didn't fire back until the third pass. He quickly blew me up and about a minute later PMed me explaining that Head Ons were somewhat looked down upon, and also not a very smart move. That is when I started to film sorties and really watch people when they fought, so I could learn and get better. I'm happy I did, the game is more enjoyable when you can hold your own (against many opponents sometime  :P) rather than taking a Head On pass and extending.

I think what you're doing is good Dast, thanks!
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: TonyJoey on June 24, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
A 51D?    If any person new to the game follows this advice, you're gonna regret it.    Lay the Foundation of Skills in a Spit 8, not a Pony.

 :aok 9 might even be a tad better due to slighty better turn rate, which in my opinion is essential for newer players. ENY of 9 also rewards newer playes a bit more in the perk department.  :salute
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: LYNX on June 24, 2009, 10:59:16 PM
There ya go Dick  some more for you to read

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/acm-merge/acm-merge.htm

http://www.combataircraft.com/tactics/index.aspx


http://books.google.com/books?id=hBxBdKr0beYC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=snapshot+in+fighter+combat&source=bl&ots=9qbj1HdRJe&sig=JWjb34KrqBeQ1pegZGcKd3THcdc&hl=en&ei=NVbvScy2Mo-UMqiT7AM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPA164,M1


http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/models.htm
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: gpwurzel on June 24, 2009, 11:38:15 PM
Something that really helped me a lot:-


In Pursuit Johan Kylander
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf (http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf)

Wurzel
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: usvi on June 25, 2009, 01:42:27 AM
Useful information,paint it on the front of your plane.
The only place those who need it most will ever be.
Screaming in with guns blazing,heading for a collision.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: Nemisis on June 25, 2009, 10:34:58 AM
A 51D?    If any person new to the game follows this advice, you're gonna regret it.    Lay the Foundation of Skills in a Spit 8, not a Pony.

I never really flew that, it it really better? I flew the spit 1 or whatever is the lowest one, if forget, and the spixteen.
Title: Re: for the newbs
Post by: BnZs on June 25, 2009, 03:03:45 PM
other than pulling around for a HO shot 

The *right* way to shoot that bandit...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&oi=video_result&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DubjIc3qLPds&ei=u9dDStD_AYj-tAPuprHODQ&rct=j&q=%22Judge+Roy+Bean%22+%22Bad+Bob%22&usg=AFQjCNGjp2tUzUVvXy4U9MsagP-zeqm_2A (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&oi=video_result&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DubjIc3qLPds&ei=u9dDStD_AYj-tAPuprHODQ&rct=j&q=%22Judge+Roy+Bean%22+%22Bad+Bob%22&usg=AFQjCNGjp2tUzUVvXy4U9MsagP-zeqm_2A)