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Title: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on June 30, 2009, 03:52:58 PM
OK, I  didn't see any examples of this any earlier then november 2008 and it was only in 1 or 2 wishlist threads, one migh have mentioned the V.C. firefly instead.


I want the Fairly Firefly. It was a British carrier born attacker, and If I remember correctly, we only have 1 british carrier born plane. I think this would give some balance to the carrier plane set, and would be a cross between a fighter and a dive bomber. It wasn't an air superiority aircraft, but it wasn't a target with wings either. I think it would get a good bit of use and could be a succesful aircraft.

It was armed with 4 20mm cannons so it packs a real punch.
It could carry 2 1000lb bombs under it's wings.
Had provisions to carry 8 60lb air to surface explosive rockets.
And if I'm reading this correctly then other options included 16 60lb rockets OR 2 1,000lb rockets
Had a 2,250 hp Rolls-Royce Griffon 74 V12 engine.
Max speed was 386 mph.
Cruise speed: 220mph
Range: 1,300miles.
Celing: 28,400.
Empty weight: 9,674lbs   Max takeoff weight: 16,096lbs.
Wingspan: 41' 2"
Length: 37' 11"
Height: 14' 4"
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: BillyD on June 30, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
the firefly is pretty cool, had some RL combat success from what I remember too....fact check? Another brit carrier piece would be welcome....sea mossie, hurricane, etc but who knows except the HTC fellas ....so many planes so little time.

Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: morfiend on June 30, 2009, 06:39:59 PM
IIRC,the sea mossie didnt see active service during WWII.

   :salute
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on July 03, 2009, 03:52:36 PM
Waaaaa (:cry).  I want my sea mossi NOW!!!
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: trigger2 on July 03, 2009, 05:28:47 PM
OK, I  didn't see any examples of this any earlier then november 2008 and it was only in 1 or 2 wishlist threads, one migh have mentioned the V.C. firefly instead.


I want the Fairly Firefly. It was a British carrier born attacker, and If I remember correctly, we only have 1 british carrier born plane. I think this would give some balance to the carrier plane set, and would be a cross between a fighter and a dive bomber. It wasn't an air superiority aircraft, but it wasn't a target with wings either. I think it would get a good bit of use and could be a succesful aircraft.

It was armed with 4 20mm cannons so it packs a real punch.
It could carry 2 1000lb bombs under it's wings.
Had provisions to carry 8 60lb air to surface explosive rockets.
And if I'm reading this correctly then other options included 16 60lb rockets OR 2 1,000lb rockets
Had a 2,250 hp Rolls-Royce Griffon 74 V12 engine.
Max speed was 386 mph.
Cruise speed: 220mph
Range: 1,300miles.
Celing: 28,400.
Empty weight: 9,674lbs   Max takeoff weight: 16,096lbs.
Wingspan: 41' 2"
Length: 37' 11"
Height: 14' 4"
Here you are...
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,251751.0.html
A couple other planes in that one, but has some pictures. :D
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on July 05, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
This is like 7 months later, if it was like 5 then OK, but not 7.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Spikes on July 05, 2009, 04:08:38 PM
This is like 7 months later, if it was like 5 then OK, but not 7.
Lol so whats the huge deal about a couple months?
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on July 05, 2009, 04:11:23 PM
Well first off, the other post is not that big, If it was like.....oh say......40 posts then I would wait longer, I say the rule of thumb is 2 pages and below 6 months is pretty safe.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Spikes on July 05, 2009, 04:13:47 PM
Personally could care less about time. If it's worthy of a bump, bump it, if not, make a new thread.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on July 05, 2009, 07:59:21 PM
Fine then.      People seem really sensitive lately :confused:.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Guppy35 on July 05, 2009, 08:10:28 PM
Only because folks keep posting the same stuff without using the search function first. ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on July 05, 2009, 08:15:21 PM
Was there a huge surge of that crap while I was gone?

And I bet if you use the search on stuff like firefly, b29,  buffalo, or Fw200, or whatever you want to post and if that is so then if you think that plane or thread is worthy of a bump then we wouldn't have 2 million threads we have now.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: moot on July 05, 2009, 08:26:18 PM
The point is that if you're going to start a thread on a topic that was already covered, it should at least add something new to the topic.  Posting a laundry list of specs that anyone can see for themselves by googling or wikiing "fairey firefly" isn't going to do much.   At the very least you could do some kind of pictorial or synthesize something from all the publicly available info on the Firefly, that really grabbed AH players' interest for the prospect of a Firefly in the game.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Guppy35 on July 05, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
The last Firefly thread, with pictures no less, was May 22, 2009
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Rich46yo on July 05, 2009, 09:28:50 PM
Well since somebody started another one let me point out that we still have exactly one CV airplane representing a country that was a huge, and cutting edge, CV and aerospace presence in the war. Far more then, say, the Japanese. At least technology wise. Even number-wise, counting escort CVs, the Royal Navy had a huge carrier presence in three different oceans.

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/uk_index.htm

You'll notice almost all the large RN CVs saw extensive action and almost all took hits. The armored decks, I think, ended up haunting them. But still they were in the teeth of it fighting it out.

I realize the RAF, and the industry it controlled, was notoriously cheap when it came to developing CV born aircraft. But with the FireFly I think we have a competative design that would fit in well in the game.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: trigger2 on July 06, 2009, 01:35:04 AM
The point is that if you're going to start a thread on a topic that was already covered, it should at least add something new to the topic.  Posting a laundry list of specs that anyone can see for themselves by googling or wikiing "fairey firefly" isn't going to do much.   At the very least you could do some kind of pictorial or synthesize something from all the publicly available info on the Firefly, that really grabbed AH players' interest for the prospect of a Firefly in the game.

Hey mate,
If you woulda skimmed the replies you woulda seen that I put a link to another thread with it on there, with some good replies and some pictures to boot. ;)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: moot on July 06, 2009, 01:52:50 AM
I meant that for Nemesis.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Rich46yo on July 06, 2009, 01:24:57 PM
Also your qouting the specs on, probably, the MK-lV, or MK-V. Which, if I remember right, wasnt built until 2 or 3 years after the war and was used extensively in Korea. Only the MK-1 saw squadron strength/operational use in WW-ll and had far more moderate performance, "tho still competative".

Anyway, all you ever wanted to know about it. http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/aircraft/Firefly.htm From my trove of WW-2 websights.

Interesting sight of all things Brit. http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Home.html

Dont forget to give a  :salute to the CV page http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/Index.html
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly
Post by: Nemisis on July 10, 2009, 04:18:27 PM
Well since somebody started another one let me point out that we still have exactly one CV airplane representing a country that was a huge, and cutting edge, CV and aerospace presence in the war. Far more then, say, the Japanese. At least technology wise.

I realize the RAF, and the industry it controlled, was notoriously cheap when it came to developing CV born aircraft. But with the FireFly I think we have a competative design that would fit in well in the game.
   That is the main reason i posted this, we NEED more british carrier planes. We have 1 plane...I think. The U.S. has 6 carrier planes, not including the A's, D's and all those modles the F4U has.

And if the last one was in May then, My search didn't show it. I typed in Fairy Firefly and Firefly. I can't see how someone would post a thread and not name the plane.