Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: fudgums on July 04, 2009, 10:58:52 AM
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Is card compatible for the new update and other games?
Looking to get a new computer, 4gb of Ram and that card
How does it look like it can do?
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Is card compatible for the new update and other games?
Looking to get a new computer, 4gb of Ram and that card
How does it look like it can do?
the 4870 whether you get a 512 meg or 1 gb version is well more than enough for Aces High 2 or the new beta/patch version soon to be released.......
you should make sure you have enough CPU & PSU though to support the cards abilities........
edit:
I have the ASUS Ati HD3870*TOP* 512 meg card
pc specs:
AMD M3A32-MVP Deluxe MB w/WiFi
AMD 6400+ x2 3.2 gig dualcore
4 gigs ram
HD3870 512 meg vid
Creative Xtreme Fatality Gamer Pro PCI Soundcard
antec900 case (with extra mounted sidefan 240mm size )
PC Power & cooling 750 watt PSU
3 Hitachi HD's (2 320gig SataII 1 160 gig SataII ) using WinXPpro 32 bit SP3 & Windows 7 RC 64 bit
ASUS DVD/DL/Lightscribe-RW & ASUS DVD-Rom
my setup runs both AcesHigh & the new Beta maxed out at the refresh rate of my LCD Monitor, using 1280x1024 screen res, 1024 textures & hires texture package.......no stutters or slow downs
NOTE- you have to keep whatever system you use lean & mean , meaning control the amount of prgrams & processes you have running in the background on a continous basis........some people will find they are running 40 or 50 even 60 processes on their Windows XP OS.......and then wonder why their High Dollar PC build is not working or playing a game efficiently........
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I have a 4870 512mb + Intel E8500 (overclocked to 4.0Ghz) combo on my other gaming box and it pushes 100-200 fps at 1920x1200 everything maxed with the latest patch.
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I have a 4850 512mb with an e8400 which pushes ah2 very well
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4850 seems to work fine without CCC just install drivers. :aok
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4850 seems to work fine without CCC just install drivers. :aok
Go a step further than this and download "ATi Tray Tools".
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i had the 4850 and it was great .. the 4870 should be just fine
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Thanks for the replies gents :salute
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One thing to note: If you don't already have a PCIe x16 2.0 slot, you may not be able to even run this card.
The 2.0 is important. It allows much more bandwidth to and from the card. I believe many 1.1 slots will support it electronically, but will bottleneck its performance noticably. [EDIT: I checked a webpage I had bookmarked, said 1.0/1.0a probably don't support it]
You need a new motherboard to handle the newer cards. You may already have one, but I wanted to point that out.
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ATI makes no comment about 1.0 or 2.0 requirement. In fact no card to date should require 2.0.
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd4800/requirements.html
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all cards and slots are backwards compatiable
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One thing to note: If you don't already have a PCIe x16 2.0 slot, you may not be able to even run this card.
The 2.0 is important. It allows much more bandwidth to and from the card. I believe many 1.1 slots will support it electronically, but will bottleneck its performance noticably. [EDIT: I checked a webpage I had bookmarked, said 1.0/1.0a probably don't support it]
You need a new motherboard to handle the newer cards. You may already have one, but I wanted to point that out.
I don't know if ATI is different from NVidia in this area, but a GTX 260 runs dang near flawlessly in a PCI-E x16 1.0.
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That's because current generation graphics card can't even come close to saturate x16 PCI-E 1.0.
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Ripley, that may have been the case a few years back, but in the past 5 years we've gone from the average resolution being 800x600 to being 1900x1080.
And no, not all PCI 1.0 slots will take 2.0 cards. I did some checking because I wanted to upgrade my vid card about a year ago and found I could not run it. Even those that do support 2.0 cards may run, but they run at lower bandwidths and may bottleneck or throttle back the card to take that into consideration.
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Ripley, that may have been the case a few years back, but in the past 5 years we've gone from the average resolution being 800x600 to being 1900x1080.
And no, not all PCI 1.0 slots will take 2.0 cards. I did some checking because I wanted to upgrade my vid card about a year ago and found I could not run it. Even those that do support 2.0 cards may run, but they run at lower bandwidths and may bottleneck or throttle back the card to take that into consideration.
If PCI-E 2.0 would be a requirement to run a card the manufacturer would state it clearly. I see no such comment on ATI webpage.
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Krusty.. I don't believe you.. plain and simple.
How about you cite your information... show us where you obtained this knowledge so that we can see what you're talking about?
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One should remember that PCI-E 2.0 is about twice as fast as 1.0. Therefore an x8 PCI-E 2.0 compares to an x16 1.0 bus. So only in the case of the card manufacturer saying the card requires PCI-E 2.0 x16 it will pose a problem.
Some sites have found that MS FSX shows a difference in framerate when run on different pci-e speeds but no effect was found on other games.
The culmination is this: If you install the 4870 to an older system that is built on older intel/amd cpu's and older motherboard that supports only 1.0 pci-e.. Your performance bottleneck will be the older CPU not the pci-e bus. You need a heavily overclocked core2duo or i7 to push these cards up to the limit where the bus can become a limiting factor.