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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: medic341 on July 05, 2009, 02:01:16 PM
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I am one of those guys that just loves :D to search out an enemy cv and kill it, as you know this takes time and skill.
Would it be possible to have PLAYER ??? landed CV184 kill come up in the text buffer?
Salute and thank you,
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So you want to be awarded for using a newbie tactic never implemented in WWII?
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I'm not sure if it was used in WWII, but it sure is in this game.
And it's no newbie tactic bro. Killing a enemy cv parked on one of your bases can and will save your country a base capture.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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I'm not sure if it was used in WWII, but it sure is in this game.
And it's no newbie tactic bro. Killing a enemy cv parked on one of your bases can and will save your country a base capture.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Most people I know will dump all 14x1000lb x3 bombs on one carrier, most likely dive bombing it...that's pretty noobish to me.
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And die doing it,your right.
I come in at a minimum of 10K drop the cv and do my best to kill any upping cons omw to land, bro.
:salute
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It'd be nice to get SB/gun scores... This wish is kinda along those lines. Don't think it will happen, but a good thought Medic.
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So you want to be awarded for using a newbie tactic never implemented in WWII?
Level bombing carriers was in fact implemented in WWII, i.e. Battle of Midway, during one of the first strikes midway launched all of its B-17 force it had just received against the Jap. fleet. None hit their targets but it was in fact used a number of times.
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Thank you Ace good to know :aok
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Level bombing carriers was in fact implemented in WWII, i.e. Battle of Midway, during one of the first strikes midway launched all of its B-17 force it had just received against the Jap. fleet. None hit their targets but it was in fact used a number of times.
If it was used a number of times than maybe you could give more examples than just Midway.
If a dive bomber or torpedo bomber does not get a player killed CV message why should a level bomber get a kill message? If you're as skilled as you say you are and kill the opposing fighters as you say you do then isn't player landed however many air to air kills in his B-whatever enough accolades?
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So you want to be awarded for using a newbie tactic never implemented in WWII?
Battle of midway there were 9 B-17's used on the initial attack on the Japanese fleet!
B-25's were used through out the war to hit shipping and the British used heavy bombers to hit ships!
Check your facts before you answer a post!
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This thread is going the wrong way.
The wish is about being credited for sinking a CV.
How the CV is being sunk has nothing to do with this subject. If you menage to kill a CV, by any means, your kill will be highlighted in the textbuffer.
Lancstuka'd or torped makes no difference.
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Long overdue IMO that Bombers get recognition for being bombers, not killing other planes.
Be it killing task force, dropping hangers, killing town. Landing message needs to be changed please!
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If it was used a number of times than maybe you could give more examples than just Midway.
If a dive bomber or torpedo bomber does not get a player killed CV message why should a level bomber get a kill message? If you're as skilled as you say you are and kill the opposing fighters as you say you do then isn't player landed however many air to air kills in his B-whatever enough accolades?
Pearl Harbor.
Not all of the US Naval ships that were damaged/destroyed were hit by the Japanese Zeros. If you knew your history, the Japanese assault force that hit the harbor was a mix of bombers and fighters.
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Pearl Harbor.
Not all of the US Naval ships that were damaged/destroyed were hit by the Japanese Zeros. If you knew your history, the Japanese assault force that hit the harbor was a mix of bombers and fighters.
yes it was a mix of DIVEbombers and fighters, NOT level bombers.... read your history :D
I think bombing a CV is dweebish too, but only because I like the fights that happen when the planes up that close together. I'm not there to kill the CV or take the base.
Seeing its a game, and getting your name in lights is one of the rewards I think the OP has a good suggestion. The only thing that really would need to be added is an alt limit. As long as you killed the target from OVER 10k you get the "name in lights", if under, you get nothing, not even point/perks :devil I hate dive bombing bombers!
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As long as you killed the target from OVER 10k you get the "name in lights", if under, you get nothing, not even point/perks :devil
Why not? A kill is a kill right?
Besides, the D3A, Ju-87 and SBD ingame are bombers aswell, and usually trigger their bombs well under 10k. Wouldn't they deserve a highlight either?
Stuka'ing a Lancaster or B-24 is dweebish, but still gets the job done.
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It does take skill to drop bombs on a moving target! I think they should reward in lights the sinking of a CV. But I also think HTC should make it that heavy bombers can not dive bomb and that they can not drop bombs under 5,000 feet either. But I do not think it will change because this is an arcade game along with a flight Sim. So HTC is trying to keep both worlds happy! But it would be nice to see your name in lights for sinking a carrier. Even during the war sinking a carrier was a big deal. But it is just one mans feelings on the subject.
Have a great day playing AH however you like to play it. It is all in fun.
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Long overdue IMO that Bombers get recognition for being bombers, not killing other planes.
Be it killing task force, dropping hangers, killing town. Landing message needs to be changed please!
Let's examine this a little closer. If you kill part of a town or strat what's the message going to be? What if you kill parts of several?
Then there's the whole issue of attack planes. Shouldn't they get similar credit for the damage they cause. What if they get damage and kills? The text buffer is only so big... which takes priority?
I'm all for the idea of giving bombers credit but I think it's a pretty complex issue and not one that's easily addressed. I know this thread is about crediting CV kills but why just CV kills and why just by bombers?
I think you need to think this one through a little further.
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It may be neat if we could get kudos for landing successfully after destroying certain objects.
CV's and Map rooms are unique to every "field" so could be identified thru COAD fairly easily.
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Let's examine this a little closer. ........................
I think you need to think this one through a little further.
Good points also consider how the text buffer is going to fill up.................
I think there should be a Perks earned thresshold before anyone gets an attaboy. This would also put some pressure on the choice of uber ac (guilty as charged m'lud)
Then split perks earned agin objects against perks earned against kills.
then lets look at the perk threshold
for objects its say 4 perks and 1 object (call them targets)
for kills say its 3 perks and 2 kills
two additional categories to the object list are Carriers and map rooms.
This then provides the following options the player has to have qualified for them each separately to achieve the attaboy.
1. Goober landed 2 kills in a {ac} of {squad}
2. Goober landed 15 targets in a {ac} of {squad}
3. Goober landed 1 capture in a {ac} of {squad}
4. Goober landed 1 CV target in a {ac} of {squad}
edit infact looking at the above I wonder if the CV deserves a mention...............
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I just had to look, 50 high level buffs
Sunday, December 7, 1941 - Islands of Hawaii, near Oahu - The Japanese attack force under the command of Admiral Nagumo, consisting of six carriers with 423 planes, is about to attack. At 6 a.m., the first attack wave of 183 Japanese planes takes off from the carriers located 230 miles north of Oahu and heads for the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor - At 7:02 a.m., two Army operators at Oahu's northern shore radar station detect the Japanese air attack approaching and contact a junior officer who disregards their reports, thinking they are American B-17 planes which are expected in from the U.S. west coast.
Near Oahu - At 7:15 a.m., a second attack wave of 167 planes takes off from the Japanese carriers and heads for Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor is not on a state on high alert. Senior commanders have concluded, based on available intelligence, there is no reason to believe an attack is imminent. Aircraft are therefore left parked wingtip to wingtip on airfields, anti-aircraft guns are unmanned with many ammunition boxes kept locked in accordance with peacetime regulations. There are also no torpedo nets protecting the fleet anchorage. And since it is Sunday morning, many officers and crewmen are leisurely ashore.
At 7:53 a.m., the first Japanese assault wave, with 51 'Val' dive bombers, 40 'Kate' torpedo bombers, 50 high level bombers and 43 'Zero' fighters, commences the attack with flight commander, Mitsuo Fuchida, sounding the battle cry: "Tora! Tora! Tora!" (Tiger! Tiger! Tiger!).
The Americans are taken completely by surprise. The first attack wave targets airfields and battleships. The second wave targets other ships and shipyard facilities. The air raid lasts until 9:45 a.m. Eight battleships are damaged, with five sunk. Three light cruisers, three destroyers and three smaller vessels are lost along with 188 aircraft. The Japanese lose 27 planes and five midget submarines which attempted to penetrate the inner harbor and launch torpedoes.
Escaping damage from the attack are the prime targets, the three U.S. Pacific Fleet aircraft carriers, Lexington, Enterprise and Saratoga, which were not in the port. Also escaping damage are the base fuel tanks.
The casualty list includes 2,335 servicemen and 68 civilians killed, with 1,178 wounded. Included are 1,104 men aboard the Battleship USS Arizona killed after a 1,760-pound air bomb penetrated into the forward magazine causing catastrophic explosions.
In Washington, various delays prevent the Japanese diplomats from presenting their war message to Secretary of State, Cordell Hull, until 2:30 p.m. (Washington time) just as the first reports of the air raid at Pearl Harbor are being read by Hull.
News of the "sneak attack" is broadcast to the American public via radio bulletins, with many popular Sunday afternoon entertainment programs being interrupted. The news sends a shockwave across the nation and results in a tremendous influx of young volunteers into the U.S. armed forces. The attack also unites the nation behind the President and effectively ends isolationist sentiment in the country.
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Many good points here gents,
Yes a kill is a kill as long is it isn't a ho and ramming your AC into your opponents AC, if you land after a hoeing you still get the credit. Stuka Lancing a V base isn't easy or taking a CV with a SB. Ranging a CV at 10 K out takes practice and skill as well.
Basically, what I wish for is recognition for all players who have and use an honorable skill.
And yes this is a game unlike all those men and women coming home in caskets. God be on watch for them.
Many gamers develop one or two skills and are deadly at them. I prefer to continue to work on any weaknesses in this awesome game until I can say I'm proficient at any given task. Lots of work ahead of me still,lol.
Medic341
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So, you want the entire arena to know you killed the CV?
Be careful what you wish for... ;)
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Only if you sink 2 or more CVs in one sorti, at least that takes a tiny bit of skill.
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So, you want the entire arena to know you killed the CV?
Be careful what you wish for... ;)
Good point Vudak,
It would be an excellent challenge having a bunch of pissed off cons looking for me,lol.
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SYSTEM: Goober landed 1 CV, 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyer in ShoreBattery of KeepOffMyDoorstep
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3. Goober landed 1 capture in a {ac} of {squad}
I've done lots of captures in C47s and M3s. It takes almost no skill at all (except hiding). And the capture is almost entirely the work of the various people who took down the town, ack, and defenders. I don't think the M3 or C47 drivers deserve their name in lights.
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<S> Gentlemen,
This is my wish and reply.....I want the kills on the guys aboard the ship that are in the guns. I ask you, Why do you get to land kills in a field gun when you just got taken out by a bomber, a gun battery on a Cruiser, or a round by any other means? I mean really, if a 5" gunner takes out a unmanned drone from your flight of Bombers, he gets a kill for it. Why cant the bomber get the kills for the manned guns on a ship when he sinks the ship or ships? I think any kills landed should be done by "Ending the Sortie", rather than getting Killed in Action while in a Field Gun. Just my opinion, I thought I would express it.
<S> Gentlemen,
1DOGFITE/CO
The *V* DEVILS REJECTS
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1. Goober landed 2 kills in a {ac} of {squad}
2. Goober landed 15 targets in a {ac} of {squad}
3. Goober landed 1 capture in a {ac} of {squad}
4. Goober landed 1 CV target in a {ac} of {squad}
This guy is a maniac! I like the way you think though, get rid of the capture one and that would be a perfect way to display what you did!
Also I think that instead of saying "Goober has sunk C47" it should just say "C47 has sunk".
<S> Gentlemen,
This is my wish and reply.....I want the kills on the guys aboard the ship that are in the guns. I ask you, Why do you get to land kills in a field gun when you just got taken out by a bomber, a gun battery on a Cruiser, or a round by any other means? I mean really, if a 5" gunner takes out a unmanned drone from your flight of Bombers, he gets a kill for it. Why cant the bomber get the kills for the manned guns on a ship when he sinks the ship or ships? I think any kills landed should be done by "Ending the Sortie", rather than getting Killed in Action while in a Field Gun. Just my opinion, I thought I would express it.
<S> Gentlemen,
1DOGFITE/CO
The *V* DEVILS REJECTS
Agreed
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Correct me if I’m mistaken… But If I’m in a buff, and I sink a ship that has gunners with multiple kills… The gunners get credit for their kills even though they didn’t ‘land successfully’.
Am I right?
So why not give credit to the buff pilot who got them? Give them credit for sinking the ship… Or kill credits for the number of gunned positions on the ship they sunk. (Assuming the buff ‘lands successfully’ after sinking the ship.
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Yeah I think the gunning needs to be tweaked...should count as a death if you get killed in one.
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Pearl Harbor.
Not all of the US Naval ships that were damaged/destroyed were hit by the Japanese Zeros. If you knew your history, the Japanese assault force that hit the harbor was a mix of bombers and fighters.
I do know my history. I never said a word about Zeros at attacking ships in Pearl Harbor, you did. That shows how little you know about history. Lay off the movies and pick a book up and do some research on what the mission of the Zeros that attacked military installations in Hawaii on Dec 7Th. :lol The ships at anchor in Pearl on December 7Th were destroyed by a combination of torpedo bombing B5Ns, dive bombing D3As and yes level bombing B5Ns. The level bombing was successful only because the ships were at anchor.
What does Pearl Harbor have to do about heavy bombers anyway attacking a CV at sea anyway?
Name me one Aircraft Carrier sunk by heavy bombers doing level bombing... I don't want to hear about B-25s skip bombing Japanese shipping , or Lancasters bombing the Tirpitz at anchor. While you're at it I'd really be interested to hear of any ship sunk at Pearl Harbor by a Zero. I can't wait for an answer from such an intelligent Fokker as yourself.
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As long as you killed the target from OVER 10k you get the "name in lights", if under, you get nothing, not even point/perks :devil I hate dive bombing bombers!
I realize you meant this for dive-bombers, but I level-bomb CV's routinely at 8K because that is the magic alt where the auto-ack doesn't quite reach, but the 5" does. As for recognition for sinking a carrier... ehh. Whatever. I get enough as is.
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Yeah I think the gunning needs to be tweaked...should count as a death if you get killed in one.
Gunner positions are not scored though. You get a kill count, but not for ranking/score. It's a bragging right that you Killed 5 in a Gunship/field gunner.
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What about killing the CA and DDs? Don't want to forget them. :D
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Show me one example of a 4 engine bomber hitting a carrier from altitude and then we'll talk.
At Midway the B-17 crews claimed they had bombed 7 carriers, 7 battleships or cruisers, one destroyer and two transports. They claimed 22 direct hits, 6 probable hits and 46 near misses out of 314 bombs dropped.
In reality they had two near misses, one on a Battleship and one on a transport and one possible hit on a destroyer. They also forced one US Submarine to crash dive to avoid bombs dropped.
At Coral Sea the B17s out of Townsville, Australia managed to bomb a task force that included the HMS Australia. Thankfully they missed.
In the end, 4 engine bombers were not cut out to bomb moving ships.
Of course Navy SBDs sank all 4 of the Japanese carriers at Midway, and got three of them in 5 minutes right after the B17s all missed completely.
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Show me one example of a 4 engine bomber hitting a carrier from altitude and then we'll talk.
http://bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/history/tiropercatechism.html
or does it really have to be a carrier to qualify? :rolleyes: I guess all the RAF hits to sink German pocket battle ships were agin non moving targets.
They did hit some during the channel dash but sunk none on that occasion.
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http://bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/history/tiropercatechism.html
or does it really have to be acarrier to qualify :rolleyes:
How about at sea under power. Level bombing a ship at anchor is no different from level bombing a building.
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By the way how are things in Brackely? I still hope to get there again one day. :aok
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How about at sea under power. By the way how are things in Brackely? I still hope to get there again one day. :aok
Point taken I was probably guilty of some rule infringement.
All is well here we even have a new giant golf ball on the Horizon. Were you in Brackley or closer to Croughton?
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I was stationed at Upper Heyford from 1980-1983.
I lived in Towceister for about for a year, then Hook Norton for a year, and then moved on base.
While in Hook Norton I visted Bandbury regularly. While in Towceister, I visted Brackley regularly. In fact I bought a car in Brackley.
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Only if you sink 2 or more CVs in one sorti, at least that takes a tiny bit of skill.
How do you know this isn't implemented already?
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I've done lots of captures in C47s and M3s. It takes almost no skill at all (except hiding). And the capture is almost entirely the work of the various people who took down the town, ack, and defenders. I don't think the M3 or C47 drivers deserve their name in lights.
Good for you. Because, they don't get their names in lights as it is now.
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wrongway
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Good for you. Because, they don't get their names in lights as it is now.
wrongway
I know. I was replying to Tilts post that suggested they should.