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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: thrila on July 29, 2009, 06:45:22 AM
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Wooowooo!
I just took it for a spin offline and it's nasty stall characteristics are gone. The correction of the fuel tanks has dnoe the trick. :)
I'm going to be flying the spit14 as my main ride from now on, it is much more of a beast of a plane than it used to be.
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Wooowooo!
I just took it for a spin offline and it's nasty stall characteristics are gone. The correction of the fuel tanks has dnoe the trick. :)
I'm going to be flying the spit14 as my main ride from now on.
So would I but ive already spanked (no u to avoid obscenity) all my perkies on it and now it can fly straight and true I cant afford it :cry
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outstanding! :x
probably my fav ride in the game (certainly most effective) but with a few handling quirks which didnt seem consistent with the other spits, cant wait to try it out (was going to fly spits next tour anyway.)
big, big thanks to Krusty for spotting and diagnosing the bug :aok
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big, big thanks to Krusty for spotting and diagnosing the bug :aok
A man fires an automatic rifle into the sky at a flock of birds. After about a thousand rounds he finally hits one and it falls dead. "Success!" he says.
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spits are for kids :aok
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<< fortysomething kid :D
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A man fires an automatic rifle into the sky at a flock of birds. After about a thousand rounds he finally hits one and it falls dead. "Success!" he says.
And I say, "Good job."
Never knock a guy for trying ;)
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spits are for kids :aok
Kinda slow, aren't you? Try reading some history.
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All is right with the world. The Spit 14 is fixed.
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Kinda slow, aren't you? Try reading some history.
Actually, what made the Spitfire such an amazing plane was that it was aerodynamically stable enough for KIDS to fly them in defense of their country... so, Spitfires really WERE for kids, as were most American planes...
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Actually, what made the Spitfire such an amazing plane was that it was aerodynamically stable enough for KIDS to fly them in defense of their country... so, Spitfires really WERE for kids, as were most American planes...
wasn't the raf putting 18 year old kids in them with less than 40 hours training?
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Actually, what made the Spitfire such an amazing plane was that it was aerodynamically stable enough for KIDS to fly them in defense of their country... so, Spitfires really WERE for kids, as were most American planes...
Right, hence the appellation "ensign eliminator." Moreover, from what I've read, the P-51 had a nasty tendency to stall without warning until you accrued some time in it.
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1940s 18yo = 2009 40 yo
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wasn't the raf putting 18 year old kids in them with less than 40 hours training?
By the end of the war, that's all they had left.
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wasn't the raf putting 18 year old kids in them with less than 40 hours training?
Exactly! It was a kid's plane! lol.
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Right, hence the appellation "ensign eliminator." Moreover, from what I've read, the P-51 had a nasty tendency to stall without warning until you accrued some time in it.
one of the guys at our rc club flew ponys in the war. one of the things he used to say, was that they burned off the fuel in the aft fuselage tank first, as it was difficult to fight if it was full.
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1940s 18yo = 2009 40 yo
cool!!!!!!!
so 2009 47 = 25????
YES!!!!! I'M REALLY ONLY 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By the end of the war, that's all they had left.
You need to read some history.
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You need to read some history.
And you need to get off your horse, it's no higher than anyone elses. I was making a joke to cap1's statement. But toward the end of the war in the pacific, the japanese were very low on experienced pilots.
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wasn't the raf putting 18 year old kids in them with less than 40 hours training?
By the end of the war, that's all they had left.
Confusing stuff, all that European countries.
Great Britain or Germany, who can tell them apart... :noid
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Confusing stuff, all that European countries.
Great Britain or Germany, who can tell them apart... :noid
Nevermind I'm an idiot
Apologies Karnak :salute
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Exactly! It was a kid's plane! lol.
:aok
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Nevermind I'm an idiot
Apologies Karnak :salute
probably my fault...i should've capatlized it..........RAF
:D
i just thought i read that somewhere.......putting 18 ear olds with less time than it took me to earn my ppl(60 hours) in high powered fighters. :aok
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probably my fault...i should've capatlized it..........RAF
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i just thought i read that somewhere.......putting 18 ear olds with less time than it took me to earn my ppl(60 hours) in high powered fighters. :aok
And you need to get off your horse, it's no higher than anyone elses. I was making a joke to cap1's statement. But toward the end of the war in the pacific, the japanese were very low on experienced pilots.
No, I stupidly characterized spitfires with the Japanese. Been a long week already.
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No, I stupidly characterized spitfires with the Japanese. Been a long week already.
lol....tell me about it......i'm only just now done work. the one single big job i sold today.....and frakkin napa sends me ALL wrong parts........ :mad: :mad: :furious :furious
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Tell me more about it? How do you fly it effectively?
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Actually, what made the Spitfire such an amazing plane was that it was aerodynamically stable enough for KIDS to fly them in defense of their country... so, Spitfires really WERE for kids, as were most American planes...
They did not apply to the Spit XIV. We're talking about the very much different Spitfire I/II, and yes guys were going operational with 20 or less hours in them, mainly out of desperation during the tail end of the B of B. Johnnie Johnson, who ended up high scoring RAF ace had roughly 20 when he went to his first squadron.
Spit XIV was not that kind of bird.
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lol....tell me about it......i'm only just now done work. the one single big job i sold today.....and frakkin napa sends me ALL wrong parts........ :mad: :mad: :furious :furious
My shop was robbed monday night, cleaned me out on carpenter tools ~3 grand :mad:
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My shop was robbed monday night, cleaned me out on carpenter tools ~3 grand :mad:
ooooo..crap!!!!
sorry to hear that dude!!
i'm a paranoid person. i ALWAYS leave cars in the bays overnight. i figure that the average time from the alarm company to the police ariving is about 20 minutes....so i figure with all that stuff in the way, they;ll only get out ith little stuff......
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<---looking forward to killing the "new" spit14 (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/345.gif)
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They did not apply to the Spit XIV. We're talking about the very much different Spitfire I/II, and yes guys were going operational with 20 or less hours in them, mainly out of desperation during the tail end of the B of B. Johnnie Johnson, who ended up high scoring RAF ace had roughly 20 when he went to his first squadron.
Spit XIV was not that kind of bird.
Yessir. If Tuck's statements are accurate (And I would bet my life they are) She was one hell of a bird to learn. A true ensign eliminator at first. I was simply making a statement on the Spitfire family as a whole.
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Great Britain or Germany, who can tell them apart... :noid
about as different as an anglo-saxon :huh
well done for noticing it Thrila! :aok
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I gave it a try tonight, and didn't notice much difference. Maybe the nose bounces a little less.
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The yaw stability seems to be fixed, but otherwise, she's the same ol' nasty gal :)
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I gave it a try tonight, and didn't notice much difference. Maybe the nose bounces a little less.
flew it again last night and the nose bounce was dreadful, way worse than I remember it. :( could barely hit a thing with it, anyone else have this?
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flew it again last night and the nose bounce was dreadful, way worse than I remember it. :( could barely hit a thing with it, anyone else have this?
Main difference for me is it is allot less inclined to do one of those nasty snap roles close to the stall. As for aiming I have swithched from twisty stick to pedals and it seems allot better but that might be the pedals.
I spend literally all my perks on it and its undoubtedly the worst spit for me on K/D ratio. Yesterday I fought an f6 stick stirrer from 25k down to the ground in it and held his 6 on and off all the way down. The old one would undoutedly of made a nasty stall. Took half his wing off and then I augered and he got the kill.
I love it :x
F knows why :frown:
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flew it again last night and the nose bounce was dreadful, way worse than I remember it. :( could barely hit a thing with it, anyone else have this?
Same here, but I did stick with a Spit 8 in a series of vertical moves with no trouble at all. Previously, throttling off on the ascent would have meant a snap roll.
I'm with Yarbles though. I tend to get "stuck in" aggressively in the XIV.
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I keep hearing people saying there are problems with this plane. My view is it will never handle like the other Spits especailly as the speeds dimminish. The new version for me is much closer to what it should be.
If you look at a 14 alongside a 9 and a Griffin engine next to a Merlin you can see why. Basically the 14 was a 9 (probably closer ot an 8 infact) but with more weight and further forward. I think anyone who has flown a 9 especially would say how well balanced it felt. The Griffin will have changed that.Maybe a post war Spit 21 or especially a 24 may have cured some of the inherent instabilities but at the end of the Day Israli spit 9's shot down British later Griffin spits and probably because they got slow with them.
Johnie Johnson said it was a great plane but no longer a Spit. Soda writes it up wrong when he says it can be flown like any other Spit. It is more akin to a 51. Use speed and the vertical, its less inclined to stall down low now but it is at best an average turner and stall fighter unlike the other Spits. Its also not a very stable gun platform and the tail got much bigger on the later models to stabilise it.
I think if you are a Spit pilot who wants a real challenge this is a good progression.