Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ratpack1 on July 29, 2009, 02:23:57 PM
-
I was wondering if they are here to stay or just being tested? Map specific? Etc.........
For example the new vbases are a barren wasteland with no flora lol.
I don't mind either way just wondering what the official status is..
Once again :salute HTC I think you guys did great, I love it!
-
I like it. Only thing better would be flora that burned
-
That would be cool
-
I like it. Only thing better would be flora that burned
Burning fauna would be nice too...as long as it's not sheep...I hate mutton.
-
I like it. Only thing better would be flora that burned
even better:fly over and it says "NOOB" :P
-
Does anyone know the answer to the actual ? in this thread lol
-
Layout looks the same...just different details. Like missing forests, vehicle paths to ack batteries, etc.
-
I love the new bases. They look like they were built into the terrain rather than an overlay. More realistic.
-
I love the new bases. They look like they were built into the terrain rather than an overlay. More realistic.
definately agree jocko. That is one of the key features of the new terrain i like. The bases before stood out like a sore thumb and something tells me this wouldn't have been the case in WW2. Give it awhile and then do a before and after comparison ain't no going back.
The trees map room side on a Vbase being removed sucks a little the only salvation for landing a commando goon.
-
Yes, I like it too, But a forest of these new trees around V bases, more realistic, not like row trees from a paper mill, but scattered and thick enough to hide behind. Makes it hard as hell to shoot a fast GV from ground or air. :x
-
Well its not FRG., (Federal Republic of Germany). Any grunt worth his salt will remember walking in some of their pristine forest. As you walk along you all of a suddenly notice that they line up real purdy. Takes most of the effort out of clearing fields of fire. Shot Over. Nice job guys.
-
I would still like to see some cover on these bases of some sort.
-
I love the new bases. They look like they were built into the terrain rather than an overlay. More realistic.
I agree, they look better.
Thanks to my low end laptop, On minimum settings, (No eye candy at all!) the terrain, trees and sand has a more pacific look to it.
I guess i grew tired of the Mid-France look, the new terrains at bases look much more Wake island-ish. :D
-
I like the v bases just as they are. The point isn't supposed to be to hide. It's supposed to be to fight.
-
The point isn't supposed to be to hide. It's supposed to be to fight.
Black vs. white. There is a gray area. Otherwise, let's decamoflauge the tanks.
-
I like the v bases just as they are. The point isn't supposed to be to hide. It's supposed to be to fight.
Almost no cover is sometimes being able to prevent fights
-
I think the "look" is more Tunisia'ish North Africa... Pacific Islands have alot more brush, and Scrub trees... Until they blasted the crap out of it....
Wondering about the wide open nature too, is it that way on all the new maps? I think that I saw Jungle, and Grass Huts in the Beta Still pics?
Or am I remembering wrong?
RC
-
I think the new (old style) lay outs plus terrain lend themelves better to "rolling" Gv fights. We'll see how the regular campers get on now. :lol
-
I think the new (old style) lay outs plus terrain lend themelves better to "rolling" Gv fights. We'll see how the regular campers get on now. :lol
Much better I'd say. Unobstructed spawns, thousands of yards free field of fire for Tigers & M4's. T34's will suffer somewhat.
-
Much better I'd say. Unobstructed spawns, thousands of yards free field of fire for Tigers & M4's. T34's will suffer somewhat.
Vbase no longer have woods to hide your approach. No longer hedges to hide your passage into the indestructable. Short of no one being at the vbase to defend you'll have to fight onto it or close it down.
As for spawn points in.... the situation is pretty much the same but the camper will be quicker to spot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
-
Vbase no longer have woods to hide your approach. No longer hedges to hide your passage into the indestructable. Short of no one being at the vbase to defend you'll have to fight onto it or close it down.A
Exactly. A tiger sitting on base can just sit there, without much need to move back and forth to cove different approach routes.
Overall less maneuvering. More long-range slugfests. Much less chances for T34s to get close enough. Some of the best fights I ever had were prolonged battles with much guesswork, shoot & scoot, repositioning using hills, woods & hedges vs incoming superior numbers. By using cover as well as lots of maneuvering I was bale to hold of a hurge force for along time.
The woods are gone.
The hills are gone.
Goodbye M8 & T34, welcome back Mr Tiger. ;)
Numbers will rule again.
It's simply much less tactical options.
-
Hadn't notice the bumps and hills were missing. Those Should definitely be in there.
I think they are still tweaking the terrains some so we shall see.
-
Exactly. A tiger sitting on base can just sit there, without much need to move back and forth to cove different approach routes.
Overall less maneuvering. More long-range slugfests. Much less chances for T34s to get close enough. Some of the best fights I ever had were prolonged battles with much guesswork, shoot & scoot, repositioning using hills, woods & hedges vs incoming superior numbers. By using cover as well as lots of maneuvering I was bale to hold of a hurge force for along time.
The woods are gone.
The hills are gone.
Goodbye M8 & T34, welcome back Mr Tiger. ;)
Numbers will rule again.
It's simply much less tactical options.
I was tempted to pick apart your argument with hypothetical scenario's but your an intelligent chap and can envisage those for yourself. I feel the crook's of the matter is 2 fold. 1) fighting styles 2) Terrain.
There have always been defenders who just sit there waiting. Fewer take the initiative to push forward and engaged off the base and push the attackers back to the spawn.
The terrain isn't as sparse as you may think. Those groups of tree's especially European style, are stepping stones for any would be attacker or indeed aggressive defender. This is why I feel the new tarrains would lend themselves to a more fluid fight.
I don't doubt that in certain scenarios of defence your point is valid which in reference to my point about "would be campers" is complementary to my point. There is less of an opportunity for a VH camper to make his objective from the usual radar side group of tree's. Yes! they can camp the VH from it's 7 O'clock as they used to before the hedges were introduced but the terrain isn't as dense now. Should such a camper make this position through lack of diligence on the part of the defender, a base jumping (need I say more?) T34 fast turret crack shot should be able to deal with that.
Once again I'll state my opinion on spawn point campers. Yes it will continue but they will be easier to spot. Less mounds of earth to sit behind. Sparser tree cover. Less high ground. Classic example Baltic V3 to A4. Little to no cover at V3's spawn into A4 from the level ground with that spawn. The high hill is a good vantage point to camp from but there is no cover. It's a 16 to 24.5 distance shot but once the attacker is on the move then your work begins.
Anyways....gased on to much. Time will tell :salute
-
I like the new terrain. Certainly favors a fluid GV fighting style, which is fine with me. :aok
-
There have always been defenders who just sit there waiting. Fewer take the initiative to push forward and engaged off the base and push the attackers back to the spawn.
Once again I'll state my opinion on spawn point campers. Yes it will continue but they will be easier to spot. Less mounds of earth to sit behind. Sparser tree cover. Less high ground. Classic example Baltic V3 to A4. Little to no cover at V3's spawn into A4 from the level ground with that spawn. The high hill is a good vantage point to camp from but there is no cover. It's a 16 to 24.5 distance shot but once the attacker is on the move then your work begins.
Anyways....gased on to much. Time will tell :salute
Spot on. Also now it's even easier for Aircraft to scout for, and inform friendly GVs of NMEs in campeing positions.
-
Too me it has or will dumb down most gv battles but I am prepared to wait & see how it pans out over time.
Long range slugfests? What's the point when a pzr can kill your tiger at 3-4 k which is beyond their range capabilities.
I prefer the hunting & stalking of my enemy. Too me that is/was the real fun with gv's.
But anyway we will all adapt to the terrain & develop our tactics accordingly.
I do agree with Lynx that the days of a single gv being capable of defending against several others will be over :cry