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Title: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on July 31, 2009, 10:03:34 AM
I'm getting a cyclic stutter. Every 1.8 seconds, there is a frame freeze that lasts, perhaps, 100 milliseconds. It is extremely annoying. I didn't have this the first night of the new release. It appeared the second night, prior to the latest patch.

It does not occur offline.

I have reset my cable modem and I don't see variance in the cable connection to Optimum. I may copy all my settings folders and do a fresh install.

I was curious if anyone else has encountered this type of stutter.


Thanks,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on July 31, 2009, 10:27:33 AM
A fresh install did not cure the problem....   :(



My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: -sudz- on July 31, 2009, 10:29:59 AM
Hang on, WW, we're on it.
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on July 31, 2009, 04:29:36 PM
Hang on, WW, we're on it.

The problem was on my end....

I did my standard troubleshooting. Run directly from the modem... No cyclic stutter. That isolated the issue to the router. So, I switched to an unused port and reloaded the game. No cyclic stutter. Flakey router port... I will invest in a replacement Linksys should it happen again.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Sloehand on August 01, 2009, 09:58:04 PM
I have exactly the same, consistant stutter, but I run straight through a Qwest DSL modem.  Game is unplayable as is.  Any guidance on solution?  And I mean, if the fix is on my side, I'll need step-by-step instructions.   :rolleyes:

Thanx.
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 02, 2009, 03:24:43 AM
I have exactly the same, consistant stutter, but I run straight through a Qwest DSL modem.  Game is unplayable as is.  Any guidance on solution?  And I mean, if the fix is on my side, I'll need step-by-step instructions.   :rolleyes:

Thanx.

I thought the problem was resolved...Logged on later in the day and the cyclic stutter had returned. It is unplayable. I will try swapping routers, but I don't have any confidence that it will change anything.

If it isn't game related, then I'll need a cable tech to check the line for any issue.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Speed55 on August 02, 2009, 10:10:33 AM
I thought the problem was resolved...Logged on later in the day and the cyclic stutter had returned. It is unplayable. I will try swapping routers, but I don't have any confidence that it will change anything.

If it isn't game related, then I'll need a cable tech to check the line for any issue.


My regards,

Widewing

Try the game with detailed terrain unchecked and see what happens.
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: bj229r on August 02, 2009, 11:09:17 AM
If ya look at netstat, do you see a sawtooth?
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 02, 2009, 02:24:53 PM
If ya look at netstat, do you see a sawtooth?

Not a saw tooth, but a tiny, rhythmic pattern that gains in amplitude, then dissipates. It does not seem to correspond to the stutter, but there may be a lag delay on what I see through the game.

Tomorrow, I'll call Optimum and have a Tech check out the line to the house. He should see the pattern if its a cable issue. It could be a modem problem as well. I'll have that checked out before I invest in a new router.

In the meantime, I'm down for game play.

Edit to add graphic:
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/noise-cycle.jpg)


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Waffle on August 02, 2009, 03:37:19 PM
for grins could you try this test out? http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270598.0.html
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Sloehand on August 03, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
Last night, after trying some different settings, I reset textures from 256 back up to 512.  Strange, but the rythmic stuttering seemed to stop.  I stil got random or intermittent stutters every 10 to 20 secs.

Then I went to a base with other people around.  Got thoroughly hosed on screen.  Like trying to fly in a slow-motion strobe light sequence of a B-flick movie.  Delay and lag and visual head ache.  Squadmate was exactly the same problem.  This was over TT with only a half dozen in the air and maybe 2 dozen on the ground.

Went in and dropped all terrain effects, all skins, turned down graphic detail, anything and everything that might ease the data transfer load.  Then spent 10 minutes to see if it would improve and still hosed.

It's not longer cyclic stuttering, it's stuttering and freezing and lagging with any and every input.

Need real help.
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: doc1kelley on August 03, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
The problem was on my end....

I did my standard troubleshooting. Run directly from the modem... No cyclic stutter. That isolated the issue to the router. So, I switched to an unused port and reloaded the game. No cyclic stutter. Flakey router port... I will invest in a replacement Linksys should it happen again.


My regards,

Widewing

Speaking of ports... have they changed in any matter with the new version from the old port numbers?

All the Best...

    Jay
 awDoc1
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: FireDrgn on August 03, 2009, 11:20:27 AM
1. I have had no noticeable problems until the 3 patch....Now i am getting the stutter/mini screen freeze..... The only time i notice is right when i pull the trigger in a tank. screen freezes longenough for the other tank to be right in the middle of the explosion when it comes back.........

2. OH ya i got the white screen of death for the first time. went to hit a key on key board and poof...
 
3.The radio text box completely disappeared. I was able to type hit enter and it would post on channel 200, but i could not see the text as I was typing it in the radio txt box.

<S> other than that haveing a blast and the graphics are sharper and clearer than the old AH :aok :salute
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: InspGadgt on August 03, 2009, 02:22:24 PM
A friend of mine is having the same problem and I've been working with him to try and resolve it.  It does not seem to be network related as the problem happens in both on-line and off-line arenas.
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 03, 2009, 06:27:05 PM
I called the cable company and they recommended the usual silliness. "Replace the splitter". It wasn't the splitter as I ran the cable directly to the modem. I asked him to reprogram the modem through the cable. He didn't know how to do that, but found someone who did.

As of 10 minutes ago, the spurious signal is gone. Now we'll see if it lasts.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 03, 2009, 08:13:26 PM
It crapped out already.... Modem is likely source. Now, I have to get the dumb bastages to get in here with a replacement.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 03, 2009, 08:14:11 PM
Double post....
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 04, 2009, 10:07:39 PM
Okay, problem is gone.... Why? Beats me, I didn't change any hardware whatsoever.

There may be an explanation, but it's extremely unlikely.

I cleaned up my registry, there was a lot of AH2 junk remaining after I uninstalled the old game and installed the new one. 137 registry items, and several critical ones relating to the old film viewer.

Immediately after the clean-up, I logged onto the game... No more cyclic stutter. I logged into several arenas. No issues. Finally, I was able to spend some time in the TA and then in the MA. Once again, not stutters at all.

Is there a connection? I don't have the expertise to say. What I do know is that my problem is gone, at least as of right now.



My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 05, 2009, 05:15:30 PM
This evening the cyclic stutter is still absent.

It seems that cleaning out all of the AH2 registry garbage cured the problem.

Gents, I highly recommend cleaning out your registry of unwanted and unneeded junk. I have Registry Mechanic, but this is not freeware.

CCleaner is free and has earned pretty good reviews. It will remove unused and old entries, including File Extensions, ActiveX Controls, ClassIDs, ProgIDs, Uninstallers, Shared DLLs, and a bunch of other junk you don't want or need.

http://www.ccleaner.com/ (http://www.ccleaner.com/)

You may find that simply cleaning the registry will help. It certainly is a good thing for your computer.



My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: hitech on August 05, 2009, 08:29:01 PM
Widewing: from you description I have no doubt your cyclical stutters is from outside AH. This is very different from the other ones we are looking fore.

HiTech
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: Widewing on August 07, 2009, 08:16:19 AM
Widewing: from you description I have no doubt your cyclical stutters is from outside AH. This is very different from the other ones we are looking fore.

HiTech


Yes, no question the stutter was external to the game.


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 07, 2009, 08:34:37 AM

There may be an explanation, but it's extremely unlikely.

I cleaned up my registry, there was a lot of AH2 junk remaining after I uninstalled the old game and installed the new one. 137 registry items, and several critical ones relating to the old film viewer.


Is there a connection? I don't have the expertise to say. What I do know is that my problem is gone, at least as of right now.



My regards,

Widewing

Good Morning Widewing,
if my memory serves me right, all those AH & AH2 registry enterys probably stem from the fact that you (at lest it was my impression ) would keep several different versions loaded up for access to cross reference changes in the flight modeling between updates & patches..... on the many different plane types.... that is unless you was using more than one computer or hard drive.......

just a thought........

Also to HTC,
I have not went and reinstalled my game from the C:\HTC\Aces High II installation directory..... on either of my OS's ( Windows XP Pro  & Windows 7 RC1 64 bit )...... I have not had any problems with anything or with any updates.........is it a "must do" or am I ok with the way I left it ( the old way )

and when I go to remove both of my beta versions on each OS..I know they should not have any effect on the regular updated game should they?



Title: Re: Cyclic stutter
Post by: hitech on August 07, 2009, 12:03:30 PM
Widewing, AH does not really use any registry entries. The one path entry it makes is simply so the updater can find AH.

The other ones are simply for explorer to be able to find ah when a film is double clicked. Also when run both the game and flim viewer update there reg entries so that if the game is moved everything still works correctly.

HiTech