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Title: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: BaldEagl on August 02, 2009, 09:46:09 AM
There have been numerous posts over the past few days trying to help those with issues but I'm afraid they are getting lost so I've compiled a few of them.  Please add any others you've seen.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270583.0.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270010.0.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270181.0.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270131.0.html

And on a slightly different note:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270112.0.html

If you have questions ask here.  Someone will try to help.

[EDIT]  Oh... and someone keep this thread bumped to the first page please.   :)
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: JunkyII on August 02, 2009, 10:11:42 AM
One question from me.....is it possible to add a better graphics card to your labtop? :salute
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: BaldEagl on August 02, 2009, 10:59:57 AM
One question from me.....is it possible to add a better graphics card to your labtop? :salute

In very rare instances you might be able but for 99.8% of laptops the answer is no.  Typically the graphics chip is built into the motherboard to optimize weight and power requirements.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: SPKmes on August 02, 2009, 01:38:20 PM
to the top with you....
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 02, 2009, 01:45:22 PM
One question from me.....is it possible to add a better graphics card to your labtop? :salute

As has already been said, very rarely will you be able to do this unless you bought a laptop specifically with upgradable features.

However, you can add memory to your Laptop. On the bottom of your Laptop there will be a door that you can open (normally with a philips head) inside there should be no less then 2 memory slots. One or both should be in use. Normally Laptop memory goes in at an angle and then lays down for a more compact design, ensure you read your manual or grab it offline if you do not still have it before you try and add/replace your memory on the LapTop.

Unlike your PC that can carry memory on the Motherboard, Video Card, and Sound Card. Your laptop uses all that memory in the door on the bottom for everything. A small upgrade makes a large difference. Memory is pretty cheap right now so it is a good time to upgrade. One suggestion I would make however is to stick with a good brand of memory for your laptop. Corsair, Kingston are some of the best. I say this simply because your laptop does not have the air flow your PC will. Good memory will last you a very long time. Cheap-O generic memory could last you several years or several months.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: smokey23 on August 02, 2009, 04:03:34 PM
I posted this on a seperate thread however this seems like as good a place as any to post it.

This may help some it may not i dont know. I scrood around installing my sound pack in the new release and managed to delete a crucial file to run the game. Not sure which one however since it was all boogered up i went to C drive and deleted the entire HTC folder off my harddrive restarted my computer then re- downloaded the game. Even though i had to reset everything to my likeing views, sounds, and the like i did notice alot of the problems i was haveing after originally installing the new release useing the auto-downloader went away. There are still minor glitches here and there but not as many as i had previously.

If you have downloaded all the latest drivers for youre gear and are still haveing problems this worked well for me youre experience may differ. But if all else fail give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: AirFlyer on August 02, 2009, 11:22:21 PM
[EDIT]  Oh... and someone keep this thread bumped to the first page please.   :)

What about keeping this near the top? :D

On an other note I vote for sticky, at least till a lot of these issues clear up.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Qrsu on August 03, 2009, 12:11:20 AM
 :salute BaldEagl.

Your ongoing contributions to the community during this teething period is greatly appreciated. Here's a bump!
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Wizer on August 03, 2009, 08:12:36 AM
This post should be stickied.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: wrongwayric on August 03, 2009, 08:40:02 AM
If you have an AMD based laptop there is an external video card system offered to hook up to your laptop, can not remember who makes it. I've read some reviews on them and the jury is still out on if it's helpful or not.

I'm split over the whole upgrade/patch so far. I like some of it, and some of it suxs. Hmmm i think i felt that way before the patch?! It's same ole same ole then. ;)
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 03, 2009, 09:21:42 AM
If you have an AMD based laptop there is an external video card system offered to hook up to your laptop, can not remember who makes it. I've read some reviews on them and the jury is still out on if it's helpful or not.

I'm split over the whole upgrade/patch so far. I like some of it, and some of it suxs. Hmmm i think i felt that way before the patch?! It's same ole same ole then. ;)

What are you looking to upgrade Wrongway?

I have caught wind of some new-in box discounts on Mid-HighMid video/Sound cards and MB/CPU combo's.

Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: BaldEagl on August 03, 2009, 10:51:33 AM
I'm taking the liberty of adding this one:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270720.0.html
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: macdp51 on August 03, 2009, 11:11:41 AM
Airflyer,Baldeagl, you guys have helped out alot - oops forgot Skuzzy -if I miss him, I could be on the "S" list. This thread " Re: Making a 300$ computer run AHII 2.14"- helped me the most, plus a little digging on my own. I don't know if the patches have helped but this weekend with no setting changes(on my part) hit detailed water "on" and  it worked without substantial frame rate loss hanging between 42 (big fight) to 59 (smaller fight). Salute to all who have thrown their two cents in, I forgot who posted the link to newegg.com for vid cards - thank you also - its nice to see folks getting their "s" together and helping out. :salute :salute 
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 03, 2009, 02:46:31 PM
Bald if you dont mind me adding a few links to your thread I would like to put these up.

http://www.newegg.com/
While you can find cheaper sites, this is one of the best computer dealers on the net. Great customer service and prices are hard to beat on most things.

http://www.pricewatch.com/
For those that would like to find some of the less sold items for older computers and the price deal watchers. This is a good reliable site that has been around for over 10 years.

http://www.tomshardware.com/us/
This is a great 3rd party (meaning they are not paid by hardware companies to say "This product is the best!!!") site to compare hardware to get the best bang for your buck.



Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: BaldEagl on August 03, 2009, 11:05:24 PM
Sorry.  Giving this a bump.  Punish me if you must.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 04, 2009, 02:05:00 AM
Back to the top of the page!
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: captain1ma on August 04, 2009, 07:30:02 AM
also try www.gpureview.com (http://www.gpureview.com). i have a theory, if your video card is somewhere near the bottom of the list, you probably need to upgrade your card, or your machine.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Slate on August 04, 2009, 10:17:47 AM
also try www.gpureview.com (http://www.gpureview.com). i have a theory, if your video card is somewhere near the bottom of the list, you probably need to upgrade your card, or your machine.


Good site I also found this:
Do you qualify for a free HD 4650?Posted By: Steve McBarnes - 12:27:58 Thu, June 11, 2009 - 6 Comments
ATI is settling a lawsuit related to their false claims of HDCP compatibility, which means that many people could be eligible for some free video cards. If you purchased a video card that was made by ATI (not Sapphire, VisionTek, Asus etc.) between January 1, 2003 to March 31, 2006 you should totally submit your authorized claim.



 
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Shuffler on August 04, 2009, 01:38:35 PM
ahhh lahk chocolet alaht.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: stephen on August 04, 2009, 04:12:11 PM
Hey BaldEagl..... kiss my Grits!
Its not a whine when you,ve bought a computer within the last year, and the game suddenly becomes unplayable.

Loved playing, but I am NOT buying another PC, or shelling out another couple hundred dollars for more hardware.

You sure seem in love with that "whine" word, but im sure if your new pc suddenly wouldnt hack it anymore you'd be "whining" too.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Shuffler on August 04, 2009, 04:16:44 PM
Hey BaldEagl..... kiss my Grits!
Its not a whine when you,ve bought a computer within the last year, and the game suddenly becomes unplayable.

Loved playing, but I am NOT buying another PC, or shelling out another couple hundred dollars for more hardware.

You sure seem in love with that "whine" word, but im sure if your new pc suddenly wouldnt hack it anymore you'd be "whining" too.

Stephen.....

Read what Bald said. He titled it like that to get your attention. Bald has been all over the place trying to help folks. You might want to step back and take a look a what this fella is doing before attacking him.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: BaldEagl on August 04, 2009, 06:03:09 PM
Hey BaldEagl..... kiss my Grits!
Its not a whine when you,ve bought a computer within the last year, and the game suddenly becomes unplayable.

Loved playing, but I am NOT buying another PC, or shelling out another couple hundred dollars for more hardware.

You sure seem in love with that "whine" word, but im sure if your new pc suddenly wouldnt hack it anymore you'd be "whining" too.

I've used the word whine in precisely 34 threads since 2002.  That's 4.8 times per year.  Hardly a love affair.  In over half of those instances it was to qualify something as not being a whine.  If you'd like to peruse the detailed specifics just do a forum search for whine with my BBs name for all forums.

I've said in numerous threads that I sympathise with those who can't currently run the game and have been providing help and advice to get people back up and running.  Furthermore most of the advice I've been giving has nothing to do with buying any new hardware.  Had you bothered to read this post and those linked to it, you would have found that I said if I were in the same boat I'd probably be whining too.

If you are so immature that you can't take the time to read this advice, or even the OP in this thread for that matter, but instead come in here ranting then you can kiss something too but I'm not going to say what in this public forum.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: truss51 on August 04, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
 :salute  BaldEagl
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 05, 2009, 07:47:04 AM
I've used the word whine in precisely 34 threads since 2002.  That's 4.8 times per year.  Hardly a love affair.  In over half of those instances it was to qualify something as not being a whine.  If you'd like to peruse the detailed specifics just do a forum search for whine with my BBs name for all forums.

I've said in numerous threads that I sympathise with those who can't currently run the game and have been providing help and advice to get people back up and running.  Furthermore most of the advice I've been giving has nothing to do with buying any new hardware.  Had you bothered to read this post and those linked to it, you would have found that I said if I were in the same boat I'd probably be whining too.

If you are so immature that you can't take the time to read this advice, or even the OP in this thread for that matter, but instead come in here ranting then you can kiss something too but I'm not going to say what in this public forum.


Well said, most of us that are trying to help have not suggested new parts or computer to anyone but those that asked about possible upgrade options. I think that some people need to recall what the first 3 letters of assumption is.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 05, 2009, 07:53:57 AM
Hey BaldEagl..... kiss my Grits!
Its not a whine when you,ve bought a computer within the last year, and the game suddenly becomes unplayable.

Loved playing, but I am NOT buying another PC, or shelling out another couple hundred dollars for more hardware.

You sure seem in love with that "whine" word, but im sure if your new pc suddenly wouldnt hack it anymore you'd be "whining" too.

Stephen, if you indeed have bought a computer in the last year (or even 2) Then you really should have little problem running this game (out side of obvious bugs that HTC is working to fix). So, please list your comp specs/model so that those of us here might actually have the ability to see why you may not be able to run the game.

1 last thing to note on this subject. If you bought a computer that was not designed to game, that has only on-board Video and Sound, then you may very well have some issues that might require you picking up a single video card. While there are easily many Motherboards with on-board Video that can run this game, there are infact some that may not be able to. SO if you failed to do any research whatsoever or asked anyone prior to spending your money. This is not HTC's fault, in the future Due Diligence should be in order.

So do us a favor. Make a new thread asking for some info. List your Computer Specs (use the DXdiag) . List off all Anti-Virus/Internet security programs you are currently running. List the problems you are seeing in game. Are you plugged straight into the cable/DSL modem or are you plugged into a router?
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Slate on August 05, 2009, 08:02:24 AM
Hey BaldEagl..... kiss my Grits!
Its not a whine when you,ve bought a computer within the last year, and the game suddenly becomes unplayable.

Loved playing, but I am NOT buying another PC, or shelling out another couple hundred dollars for more hardware.

You sure seem in love with that "whine" word, but im sure if your new pc suddenly wouldnt hack it anymore you'd be "whining" too.

 If you evaluated the new version on it's first day it was unplayable. It was for me also but since that time many new patches were released to address the many issues. For me with my old graphics card and 5yr old machine it has gotten better every day. Baldeagl's advice for me was invaluable in improving my system. I suggest you look at your system to see what you can do to Improve it's performance. Most systems (mine included) don't come with as much memory as they can handle due to price.
  
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: A8Jaraxl on August 05, 2009, 01:37:17 PM
Back to the Top. The links Eagl posted are worth sticky sticky

Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: BaldEagl on August 05, 2009, 01:41:51 PM
I don't think we need to keep bumping this anymore.  I mostly wanted to get it up there over the weekend when the BBs seemed to be in chaos over the update.  Now that HT, Skuzzy, Pyro, etc. have returned from their weekend stupers  :D we can let them take back over.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: Shuffler on August 05, 2009, 02:00:47 PM
OK I won't bump it....


OOOPS
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: stephen on August 05, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
AMD athalon 64X2 Duel Core Processor 4400 +
Memory: 2.00GB

OS 149 GB free of 222

Nvidia Gforce 6150SE  nForce430.

On broadband through knowledgy, frame rate issue....pulling only 20fps......which wouldnt be a problem accept that anytime I approach more than one aircraft, {or a cloud} my game begins to stutter even more than normal.
I had an old computer 6 years ago that was equaly as crappy to play on, which resulted in my flying bombers....somthing else im not prepared to go back to.

I tried lowballing all the graphics, and turning off a major portion of programs in task manager, and running the game in very low resolutions, though its a little better I cant read the cockpit instruments at those low settings, and im not prepared to fly like that.... 
The only thing that helps slightly is turning the ground detail off, and that looks like crap, and results in my not being able to judge distance...., which also results in my slamming into the ground at hi speed.
I cant fire at enemy GV's if my view includes smoke/fire as my fps drops dramaticly resulting in even more stuttering...

Basicly guys, what it comes down to is this,... yeah your gonna help me, Yeh I was helped before..., and the game was somwhat playable.
NOW after purchasing a new PC, these guys throw another "upgrade" at me resulting in my taking several steps back, and I end up losing detail AGAIN, and thats not why I bought this PC.
Im pretty angry, and i've bit my tounge pretty hard since this update... But yeh... plz help me sort this out, but I really doubt ill be running the graphics at anything near the old settings, and I think myself and alot of other players have been alienated by what has transpired for a couple of folks who can afford better PC's.

Oh, and I really dont care how many times the word "whine" has been used, its rude... and assumes that anyone with an issue with this game is indeed "whining" and should shut the hell up.
Im a paying member to, and simply dumping the ground detail IS NOT A SOLUTION... There is no way to judge distance, and the quality of gameplay has taken a nose dive for water with a couple ripples in it, and a couple shadows under trees. :furious

A8Popy made alot of friends, and had alot of good times... but doesnt have money rolling in, and I know its going to take a graphics card to get this thing back where I need it to be... Oh, and AMD just sux.

Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: stephen on August 05, 2009, 05:07:24 PM
Forget it, im not paying to play this game looking at playdough ground because I have to turn terrains off...

Good work HT and crew, Later :cry
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: texastc316 on August 05, 2009, 05:36:00 PM

Wtg! Way to hang in there!
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: AirFlyer on August 06, 2009, 05:00:56 AM
Looks like you just need a new videocard stephen. If you can find out if your motherboard has a PCI-e x16 or a AGP slot, you should be able to sink 50ish into a new card and get way more out of the game.
Title: Re: Before whining or quitting please read and try:
Post by: lazydog on August 06, 2009, 09:33:18 AM
looks like ole shephen shoulda done a little reseach on what computer to buy.buying 1 with onboard video makes no sense when that info is all over this forum.now he blames the game for his ignorance