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Title: ITS OFFICAL....
Post by: betty on August 06, 2009, 01:01:49 PM
yesturday i submitted my application to the Michigan Institute of Aviation and Technology...


i got a call today and......


WOOOT WOOOT! MY CLASSES START SEPT 23!!!!! apparently there are many scholarships for women in aviation and with all that along with my student loans and pell grants i will be more than able to cover my tuition!! i have an online orientation tomorrow at 2pm. i was worried about leaving my parents and relocating however they gave me their blessing to do what will make me happy. im stoked!!


here is the website if yall wanna check out this school...its in michigan located on the willow run airport. my rep said that the blue angels stop in there alot so i will be able to meet them!! yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy me!!!!


http://www.miat.edu/ (http://www.miat.edu/)
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Post by: Vudak on August 06, 2009, 01:02:41 PM
WTG Betty :aok
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Post by: Spikes on August 06, 2009, 01:04:13 PM
Very nice betty, good luck with it and keep us posted!
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Post by: usvi on August 06, 2009, 01:07:37 PM
Nice!   :salute
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Post by: Dragon on August 06, 2009, 01:08:01 PM
WTFG Betty


While your in school, please take a spelling class.

    
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Post by: betty on August 06, 2009, 01:12:45 PM
WTFG Betty


While your in school, please take a spelling class.

    
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im so stoked right now i dont care bout spelling!!!!!! now in school i will worry bout it but not here :)
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Post by: Wreked on August 06, 2009, 01:16:22 PM
Congrats!!

...oh ya - wheels "down" when landing eh!! :D
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Post by: SEraider on August 06, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
I'm proud of you Betty!!  :aok
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Post by: Lusche on August 06, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
Great!  :aok
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Post by: waystin2 on August 06, 2009, 01:23:37 PM
Sincerest Congratulations on your acceptance to this school.  Study hard and best of luck!
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Post by: shppr01 on August 06, 2009, 01:38:31 PM
Congrats!! May you fly with the eagles and always touch down with the feathers !  :salute
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Post by: Strip on August 06, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
WTG Betty!

Which program are you going in to?
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Post by: betty on August 06, 2009, 01:46:21 PM
WTG Betty!

Which program are you going in to?



aviation maintenance :)
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Post by: Strip on August 06, 2009, 01:55:42 PM
Oh lordy.....Im gonna be like this next flight.

 :eek: :uhoh

When in doubt just remember lefty lucy, righty tighty. If it does not come loose try the other direction. If that does not work keep going one direction until you hear a snap.

In all seriousness....good luck, have fun, learn a lot and reap your reward afterward.

 :salute
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Post by: Sgtlead on August 06, 2009, 02:00:04 PM
I can see it now.  The pilot looks at his plane and wonders if he can trust a chick mechanic whos thong is showing :x

Just kidding.  WTG Betty, you will do good!
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Post by: betty on August 06, 2009, 02:02:34 PM
strip, have much experience in working on cars and trucks. my ex did teach me alot while building our toys. if i can work on them and enjoy doing it, why not learn to work on planes and choppers? i dont mind getting dirty and greasy!!! bring it on!!


my ex taught me how to rebuild any SB or BB chevy motor, i've also got experience with rebuilding 350 turbo transmissions also! i really honestly enjoy doing that kind of stuff! this will be awsome for me to learn and a great job for me!!
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Post by: Slate on August 06, 2009, 02:04:54 PM
  Stay away from the Blue Angels you'll distract them and they will auger. Just kidding Good Luck!  :aok
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Post by: Maverick on August 06, 2009, 02:54:51 PM
Congrats Betty. How long is the program and do they say you'll have your A&P at the end of it? This is assuming you pass etc. to qualify for it of course.

Start looking at the tool list they give you and see what you already have on hand. FWIW for the most part Craftsman is plenty good enough for what you will be doing in school. The only time I really wanted to have something like Snapon was the flex sockets when dealing with Continental manifolds, especially when pulling a jug. Get a GOOD smaller flashlight. I like the plastic ones as when you drop them, and you will, they do not cause any shorts. I got mine from a Police Supply store and it's rechargeable, no batteries to buy.

If you can afford it, get one of the smaller rolling tool boxes. Then make sure you organize the tools. It makes it far easier to tell then that you have all of them back and didn't leave one in the wing / fuselage you just closed up all the panels on. Instructors WILL ask if you have made sure you have all of your toys and if you can point to a tool box that has slots or holders that are all filled up it will help. Mark your tools with your name before you get to school. Use an etching tool not magic marker.

They may require you to have duck billed pliers for safety wiring. Go cheap on those as you'll likely never really use them once that particular class is over. Put tape over the serations if they are serated. You do not want to nick the safety wire. If you decide to buy a set of real safety wire pliers do not buy the big ones. Get the 6" ones that are reversible. The bigger ones will just be too darn clumsy most of the time. Get a good pair of angle wire snips or cutters those will be very handy in the 4" to 6" size. You won't be cutting heavy gauge wire but if they are sharp it makes the job easier. If the tips are all chewed up replace them as that's the part you'll use the most.

Have a laptop for school. If the school has access to the A&P practice CD's you will use it a lot for studying and practicing for the written tests at the end of airframe and power plant courses. Many of the classroom tests you'll take will probably be taken from there as well.

When the FAA inspectors come to observe, use the time to ask them questions while they watch you work. They have good info and may cover something the school misses. If you make a mistake while they are watching do NOT try to cover it up. They know you are students and the time to screw up is in class, not later. If you can't fix the error, start over.

Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have. I went through an A&P program at a Junior College in 2002.
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Post by: betty on August 06, 2009, 03:05:55 PM
wow maverick! ty for the advice!!

the program is 20 month program, the school supplies us with a snap on tool kit that is of course included in the tuition charges. im cool with that. not sure what all is in the kit but im sure that it will be everything that we will need.


at the end i will be able to take the FAA test and have my certification afterwards.
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Post by: Bodhi on August 06, 2009, 03:09:49 PM
Betty,
Do not spend money on tool buys set up through the school.  They are expensive and will generally set you up with stuff that you will never touch.

Go buy a cheap roll around tool box at a pawn shop.  Use this to start with.

Here's a list of must haves:

Screw driver set ((get Snap On as there are no substitutes)  your future boss will not want you destroying hardware by using a crappy screwdriver.)
Set of wrenches from 1/4" to 1"
Three Adjustable wrenches
Assortment of Pliers from duckbills to regular
Couple of ball peen hammers
Brass Hammer
Plastic Hammer
Decent scraper
set of steel punches
set of chisels
brass punch
center punch
Socket set (1/4inch sockets to start)
used drill
cleco pliers
Vice grips (only get "vicegrip" brand)
couple of scales and a compass
used rivet gun (NOT an air hammer)
used bucking bars
Decent Ohm Meter

The above will get you started.  As you move into your career, you will see what you need later.

My tool boxes and tools are easily valued over $200k with everything I now have.  I go from everything I first bought at Sears to the welders, borescopes, electronics, and assortment of everything I have.


I have been in Aviation maintenance since I was 16 (over 20 years now).  It is a field full of adventure and can be very satisfying.  Just don't let people talk you into crap you don't need.  As Mav said, if you have any questions, feel free to PM me, as I have been there and done it, from working for airlines, fbo's and running a restoration shop.
Title: Re: ITS OFFICAL....
Post by: betty on August 06, 2009, 03:36:29 PM
see..this is why i love AH! there are people from all walks of life on here with all different jobs! ty guys for the advice, i will take it and use it the best i can. im looking forward to all of this. im totally stoked!

i have my own ryobe drill and another black n decker one also. i like my ryobe cuz its small and fits in my hand lots easier than a the big black n decker one i have. i have other misc tools but i should have well enough money after i pay my tuition for whatever else i need.

i dont have a laptop but i will get one, i have to relocate for awhile while doing this and rent my house out (which scares the hell out of me) but atleast my house payment will be made until i can sell it and atleast pay it off. i have lots of stuff to do before sept 23rd. the school has a deal worked out with a local apartment complex where most students stay at a decent price. im not looking forward to apartment living after being in my big house and havin a huge yard but its only a temp thing till i graduate. my kids are excited for me. they know i love planes and love to work on cars so they support me 100%. i was always scared to move away from home and being away from my family but im glad my parents support me on this as well. looks like it will be a lonely 20 months but it will be worth it in the long run. im sure i will make new friends when i get down there.
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Post by: VonMessa on August 06, 2009, 03:42:00 PM
Betty,
Do not spend money on tool buys set up through the school.  They are expensive and will generally set you up with stuff that you will never touch.

Go buy a cheap roll around tool box at a pawn shop.  Use this to start with.

Here's a list of must haves:

Screw driver set ((get Snap On as there are no substitutes)  your future boss will not want you destroying hardware by using a crappy screwdriver.)
Set of wrenches from 1/4" to 1"
Three Adjustable wrenches
Assortment of Pliers from duckbills to regular
Couple of ball peen hammers
Brass Hammer
Plastic Hammer
Decent scraper
set of steel punches
set of chisels
brass punch
center punch
Socket set (1/4inch sockets to start)
used drill
cleco pliers
Vice grips (only get "vicegrip" brand)
couple of scales and a compass
used rivet gun (NOT an air hammer)
used bucking bars
Decent Ohm Meter

The above will get you started.  As you move into your career, you will see what you need later.

My tool boxes and tools are easily valued over $200k with everything I now have.  I go from everything I first bought at Sears to the welders, borescopes, electronics, and assortment of everything I have.


I have been in Aviation maintenance since I was 16 (over 20 years now).  It is a field full of adventure and can be very satisfying.  Just don't let people talk you into crap you don't need.  As Mav said, if you have any questions, feel free to PM me, as I have been there and done it, from working for airlines, fbo's and running a restoration shop.

And a flashlight.  One that clips onto a hat is priceless for having your hands free.  :D
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Post by: SEraider on August 06, 2009, 04:03:56 PM

aviation maintenance :)


Wanna come maintain me??  ;)

P.S. I do have wings.....sort of.  :rofl
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Post by: Damned Goose on August 06, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
WTG Betty! Congrats!  :aok
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Post by: Reaper90 on August 06, 2009, 06:26:15 PM
WTG Betty! Awesome!
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Post by: Yenny on August 06, 2009, 06:26:21 PM
Grat !!!
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Post by: Sgtlead on August 06, 2009, 06:35:55 PM
How are you with a Ford 300 Straight 6 Betty?  Lead jr needs a rebuild in the worst way.

Sorry I cant help u with tools or advice.  I have a badge and patch collection and my old duty weapon to loan you but I dont think that will help unless it is to keep  raider from stalking you.   :lol  j/k raider  again good luck :salute :pray
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Post by: A8Thumpr on August 06, 2009, 06:57:06 PM
WTG betty,Great career to get into if you love aviation! I've been enrolled here in FL at the National Aviation Academy since April on the way to get my A&P, and loving every minute of it!!!   :aok
 
P.S Bohdi forgot the safety wire pliers....for the love of god,buy the safety wire pliers your fingers will love you!!  :lol
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Post by: Babalonian on August 06, 2009, 07:09:56 PM
Awesome news Betty, congratulations.  Glad your parents are behind ya on it too, it'll help.
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Post by: avionix on August 06, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
WTG betty,Great career to get into if you love aviation! I've been enrolled here in FL at the National Aviation Academy since April on the way to get my A&P, and loving every minute of it!!!   :aok
 
P.S Bohdi forgot the safety wire pliers....for the love of god,buy the safety wire pliers your fingers will love you!!  :lol

You down in St Pete?  Did some tours of our shop in Lakeland with some guys from the St Pete school.
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Post by: steely07 on August 06, 2009, 09:02:21 PM
Great news, good onya Betty!!

Steely
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Post by: ttflier on August 06, 2009, 09:30:26 PM
Congratulations - good luck!!

ttflier
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Post by: RTGorkle on August 06, 2009, 10:21:12 PM
WTG Betty. Congrats.
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Post by: JunkyII on August 06, 2009, 11:29:31 PM
Way to go Betty :salute
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Post by: vorticon on August 06, 2009, 11:43:16 PM
awesome. hope that works out for you.
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Post by: Flipperk on August 06, 2009, 11:58:23 PM
Its times like these, when I wish I was a women....



maybe obama can pay for that...
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Post by: texasmom on August 07, 2009, 12:03:12 AM
 :aok  That's wonderful Betty! :)
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Post by: RTR on August 07, 2009, 12:21:31 AM
Congrats Betty. How long is the program and do they say you'll have your A&P at the end of it? This is assuming you pass etc. to qualify for it of course.

Start looking at the tool list they give you and see what you already have on hand. FWIW for the most part Craftsman is plenty good enough for what you will be doing in school. The only time I really wanted to have something like Snapon was the flex sockets when dealing with Continental manifolds, especially when pulling a jug. Get a GOOD smaller flashlight. I like the plastic ones as when you drop them, and you will, they do not cause any shorts. I got mine from a Police Supply store and it's rechargeable, no batteries to buy.

If you can afford it, get one of the smaller rolling tool boxes. Then make sure you organize the tools. It makes it far easier to tell then that you have all of them back and didn't leave one in the wing / fuselage you just closed up all the panels on. Instructors WILL ask if you have made sure you have all of your toys and if you can point to a tool box that has slots or holders that are all filled up it will help. Mark your tools with your name before you get to school. Use an etching tool not magic marker.

They may require you to have duck billed pliers for safety wiring. Go cheap on those as you'll likely never really use them once that particular class is over. Put tape over the serations if they are serated. You do not want to nick the safety wire. If you decide to buy a set of real safety wire pliers do not buy the big ones. Get the 6" ones that are reversible. The bigger ones will just be too darn clumsy most of the time. Get a good pair of angle wire snips or cutters those will be very handy in the 4" to 6" size. You won't be cutting heavy gauge wire but if they are sharp it makes the job easier. If the tips are all chewed up replace them as that's the part you'll use the most.

Have a laptop for school. If the school has access to the A&P practice CD's you will use it a lot for studying and practicing for the written tests at the end of airframe and power plant courses. Many of the classroom tests you'll take will probably be taken from there as well.

When the FAA inspectors come to observe, use the time to ask them questions while they watch you work. They have good info and may cover something the school misses. If you make a mistake while they are watching do NOT try to cover it up. They know you are students and the time to screw up is in class, not later. If you can't fix the error, start over.

Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have. I went through an A&P program at a Junior College in 2002.


I echo Maverick except about the duckbills. Get yourself a good set of these (Blue Point are good) and keep them., they will come in handy more than you would believe.

I have 30 years of time behind me fixing and flying...Military and Commercial. Don't skimp on tools. Craftsman and also mastercraft are good. With torque wrenches though, I only use / own Snap-on. (expensive but worth it).

You know, when I fly..I may take off and hold 4 or 5 peoples souls (fate) in my hands. The Engineer on the ground watching me leave holds 5 or 6 souls in his / her hand. I trust my soul with that individual, and when I wrench I hold all my souls very closely.

Congrats on your endeavor, and by all means feel free to PM or email me with anything, anytime. You are about to embark on a truly wondrous journey.

cheers,

RTR
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Post by: rpm on August 07, 2009, 12:44:47 AM
Congrats Betty!  :aok
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Post by: Plawranc on August 07, 2009, 04:10:35 AM
Betty, do you know I would fly to Michigan and kill you and pose as you (that includes sacrificing my manhood) to get where you are.

WTFG I hope that you do very well  :aok  :rock

GL & GW
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Post by: gusman on August 07, 2009, 08:58:04 AM
Wtg Betty!!  :rock

Cheers,
gus
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Post by: Wolfala on August 07, 2009, 01:29:17 PM
yesturday i submitted my application to the Michigan Institute of Aviation and Technology...


i got a call today and......


WOOOT WOOOT! MY CLASSES START SEPT 23!!!!! apparently there are many scholarships for women in aviation and with all that along with my student loans and pell grants i will be more than able to cover my tuition!! i have an online orientation tomorrow at 2pm. i was worried about leaving my parents and relocating however they gave me their blessing to do what will make me happy. im stoked!!


here is the website if yall wanna check out this school...its in michigan located on the willow run airport. my rep said that the blue angels stop in there alot so i will be able to meet them!! yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy me!!!!


http://www.miat.edu/ (http://www.miat.edu/)

Sweet! So yr going to be turning wrenches or whats the plan?
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Post by: betty on August 07, 2009, 02:45:20 PM
Sweet! So yr going to be turning wrenches or whats the plan?


yep wolfy! thats the plan!!! i just completed my online orientation with my admin rep about 10 minutes ago. it was awsome and im stoked!!!! but the program i am enrolled in is aviation maintenance...so wrenchin on planes is the plan!! wooot wooot!
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Post by: thrila on August 07, 2009, 03:56:57 PM
congrats betty
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Post by: 4deck on August 07, 2009, 06:46:04 PM
CONFKNGRADULATIONS. That is awesome BETTY, Good Skill, no luck. You will do excellent. Blessings to you. :aok
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Post by: dBeav on August 07, 2009, 07:52:56 PM
WTG Betty!

If you ever want to go to the other side of the airport and check out a B-17 and B-25, I think there are a few of us on here that could give you a tour.
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Post by: moot on August 07, 2009, 07:55:30 PM
Grats Betty.   Best of luck :)
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Post by: JB88 on August 08, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
WOOT!!!!

WAY TO GO BETTAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!

 :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok

(they gonna let you ride a tempie?)

88
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Post by: Plazus on August 08, 2009, 06:34:25 PM
Congrats, Betty! College is a great place to be. Ive been in college 2 years now and I dont regret going! Hope the best for you!  :salute
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Post by: John Curnutte on August 09, 2009, 11:36:59 PM
 Congrats Betty and I could not think of someone who deserves it more . Enjoy yourself and I'd bet you'll do very well .
                       Nutte :x
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Post by: betty on August 10, 2009, 04:20:01 AM
Congrats, Betty! College is a great place to be. Ive been in college 2 years now and I dont regret going! Hope the best for you!  :salute


ty all! plazus i been finishing my BA in criminal justice but after some long thinking....i will enjoy this SOOOOOOOO much better. plus i can transfer many of my credits i have already to help get through this quicker....


Congrats Betty and I could not think of someone who deserves it more . Enjoy yourself and I'd bet you'll do very well .
                       Nutte :x

ty nutte!!! i hope i do as well as everyone says i will, i dont doubt that i wont, im just nervous but i will be ok. i plan to buckle down and put my head in the books...play time for me will be over until i get a better feel for how things will go down there. i can't get distracted at all so i can stay focused and do what i need to do :)
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Post by: Scherf on August 11, 2009, 06:46:14 AM
That rocks Betty, wtg.

 :rock and  :salute