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Title: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: BillyD on August 12, 2009, 04:34:13 PM
You guys did it, patch 5 looks fantastic ( a 10000000% difference) on my totally shi@ty computer. I knew y'all would take care of us low end hardware guys...


thanks

birry :salute
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: gyrene81 on August 12, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
Ok it's not even 5 oclock...did I miss something?  :huh  :confused:
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: texastc316 on August 12, 2009, 04:50:21 PM

I like patches can't wait to try it out
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Post by: ImADot on August 12, 2009, 04:50:55 PM
Ok it's not even 5 oclock...did I miss something?  :huh  :confused:

Yep

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,271503.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,271503.0.html)
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Post by: grizz441 on August 12, 2009, 04:51:14 PM
I was pretty vocal when the patch first came out with the terrain looking pretty bad in low detail mode.  It looked like nintendo 64, well that was the joke anyways.  I must say, it looks A LOT nicer now with this patch and my hat is off to you guys for putting in the effort to appease the low end players with this update.   :salute
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: grizz441 on August 12, 2009, 04:55:01 PM
Whoops, missed your thread billy, made my own hehe.  Looks great though!
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Post by: moot on August 12, 2009, 05:05:42 PM
Attempting to locate whine... unable to locate whine.. :D

Before/after screens for the rest of us?
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Post by: DREDIOCK on August 12, 2009, 07:33:21 PM
Now.
To all those folks who were stomping feet throwing temper tantrums when the new version came out.

How would you like your crow cooked? Or do you prefer to eat it raw?
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: gyrene81 on August 12, 2009, 07:36:17 PM
Now.
To all those folks who were stomping feet throwing temper tantrums when the new version came out.

How would you like your crow cooked? Or do you prefer to eat it raw?
I'll bring the salt and pepper for them...  :aok

With this latest patch I'm now able to run 1024 textures with the hi res pack and still get 74-75 fps...  :x

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Post by: texastc316 on August 12, 2009, 07:40:13 PM
Anxious to see how the lores guys like it. Hope it helps. I absolutely love the update.
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Post by: TwinBoom on August 12, 2009, 08:28:40 PM
no change same mini pauses next...................
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Post by: Spikes on August 12, 2009, 08:35:44 PM
My comp seems to like patch 5 better.
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Post by: OddCAF on August 12, 2009, 10:59:22 PM
  New patch has now after investing 100 bucks in a video card, once again
made the game unplayable. My new HD4650 was running it fine for the past
few days. But, since the new patch download, initial loadup of graphics when
in the tower takes several seconds, the sun becomes a large rectangle of
white for a second or two, then ten minutes into flying, the screen just freezes,
requiring an alt-F4.
   
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Post by: BiPoLaR on August 13, 2009, 12:27:44 AM
i think the water looks like a blue counter top.
i feel like im flying around in a kitchen
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Post by: Lazerr on August 13, 2009, 12:37:18 AM
i think the water looks like a blue counter top.
i feel like im flying around in a kitchen

bake me a cake...
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Post by: BiPoLaR on August 13, 2009, 12:58:47 AM
bake me a cake...
Look at it, looks like a blue counter top.
i keep looking for koolaid stains
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 02:34:13 AM
<- deeply frustrated after 5 patches...  :(
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Post by: stephen on August 13, 2009, 03:39:22 AM
At-least the game is flyable again... looks like ill be pumping funds into it again, thx HT and crew :aok
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Post by: dhyran on August 13, 2009, 04:37:18 AM
<- deeply frustrated after 5 patches...  :(

nooooooooooooo, lusche, just get a GTX 260 here http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=JBXWP7&articleId=359142&baseId=555022

for just 132 € and you will have steady 60 fps, what ever big puffy ack and furballs might be.
bet this will solve your issues
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 06:13:41 AM
My issues are not a result of not enough vid power, and it's not exactly a FR problem

AMD64 X2 4200 + GF 9600 GT should be able to run the game without stutters ;)

BTW "just" 132€ is an enormous sum of money for me (just spent 80€ on this GF 9600GT upgrade, that's all I can afford in next 10 months). And I would have to get a new PSU as well to run this card. And  CPU  :lol



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Post by: MotleyCH on August 13, 2009, 06:28:13 AM
Using a low end computer myself here and the update looks sweet...

Thanks HTC  :rock
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Post by: BoilerDown on August 13, 2009, 07:35:17 AM
I have a Nvidia 260, and last night I went about 13k higher than I usually do in a Yak9U, to 20k, to kill a bomber.  Coming back to base, I still had half my ammo, so I dove to 12k and screamed overhead doing a good 450.  Sure enough there was a co-alt Corsair that tried to dive away, I was following him to the deck, 1000 back when...

... Aces High locked up and I had to alt tab to the desktop and end task.  Can't remember the last time AH crashed on me.
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Rebel on August 13, 2009, 07:43:53 AM
My issues are not a result of not enough vid power, and it's not exactly a FR problem

AMD64 X2 4200 + GF 9600 GT should be able to run the game without stutters ;)

BTW "just" 132€ is an enormous sum of money for me (just spent 80€ on this GF 9600GT upgrade, that's all I can afford in next 10 months). And I would have to get a new PSU as well to run this card. And  CPU  :lol


How much RAM do you have? 

By the way, I have the same exact proc as you- I have 2 gigs of RAM, and a Radeon 4850, and it hammers this game out no problem. 

I think the issue you're facing is your graphics card.  I left Nvidia after my 7950 GT OC issues.  Good GOD, their drivers sucked, the card was unstable as all hell, even when underclocked. 

Well it may be bias, but I can't stand Nvidia anymore, and all I hear are problems from 'em. 
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: thndregg on August 13, 2009, 07:45:20 AM
My issues are not a result of not enough vid power, and it's not exactly a FR problem

AMD64 X2 4200 + GF 9600 GT should be able to run the game without stutters ;)

BTW "just" 132€ is an enormous sum of money for me (just spent 80€ on this GF 9600GT upgrade, that's all I can afford in next 10 months). And I would have to get a new PSU as well to run this card. And  CPU  :lol

I'm hoping it will get better for you, Lusche. I can relate. It's no fun seeing the game advance as it should, and yet income issues slow down our upgrades to compensate.
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: SkyRock on August 13, 2009, 07:47:59 AM
Now.
To all those folks who were stomping feet throwing temper tantrums when the new version came out.

How would you like your crow cooked? Or do you prefer to eat it raw?
I think I'd prefer they eat it raw!  hee hee   It is such a big difference, and it is smooth as silk....it just looks so much better with this patch.   :aok
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Noir on August 13, 2009, 08:12:14 AM
crap I hate being at work when a new patch is out....
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 08:16:40 AM

I think the issue you're facing is your graphics card.  I left Nvidia after my 7950 GT OC issues.  Good GOD, their drivers sucked, the card was unstable as all hell, even when underclocked. 


I doubt it's the graphics card alone. I think it lies somewhere in having an early dual core amd64 (2GB ram btw).
Every other game (Crysis, COD4, MS flight, Il2, video editing, whatever) runs fine, so did AHII 2.13

And without compatibility mode, I don't get any stutter - but sooner or later a spinning clipboard or a almost certain lockup when minimzing AH (which I absolutely HAVE to)
And before someone asks: Yes, I know about the optimzer, but no combination of optimizer and cpu driver versions did ever allowed me to run AH without compatibility mode. (Tried them all on a fresh XP install)

*sigh*

Currently I just could kick myself for havin invested all my money in this 9600GT in expectance of AH 2.14  :lol :cry
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Kazaa on August 13, 2009, 08:38:43 AM
The low res graphics look like marble.
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 13, 2009, 08:44:25 AM
Download link from the homepage is down.
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Rebel on August 13, 2009, 09:01:05 AM
I doubt it's the graphics card alone. I think it lies somewhere in having an early dual core amd64 (2GB ram btw).
Every other game (Crysis, COD4, MS flight, Il2, video editing, whatever) runs fine, so did AHII 2.13

And without compatibility mode, I don't get any stutter - but sooner or later a spinning clipboard or a almost certain lockup when minimzing AH (which I absolutely HAVE to)
And before someone asks: Yes, I know about the optimzer, but no combination of optimizer and cpu driver versions did ever allowed me to run AH without compatibility mode. (Tried them all on a fresh XP install)

*sigh*

Currently I just could kick myself for havin invested all my money in this 9600GT in expectance of AH 2.14  :lol :cry

I think I got it.

Do you have an antivirus program running?  I got that spinning clipboard when I left Avast running in the background. 

If I killed the services (stop on-access protection), and killed most of my systray things, it ran stable as all hell. 

Only thing I have running is TrackIR, and AH2. 
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
I think I got it.

Do you have an antivirus program running?  I got that spinning clipboard when I left Avast running in the background. 

If I killed the services (stop on-access protection), and killed most of my systray things, it ran stable as all hell. 

Only thing I have running is TrackIR, and AH2. 

Did all my tests with system as clean as possible, no firewall, no anti-vir
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Post by: Rebel on August 13, 2009, 09:34:31 AM
Did all my tests with system as clean as possible, no firewall, no anti-vir

Damn.  Sorry dude, I'm out of ideas :(
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Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 09:36:38 AM
Damn.  Sorry dude, I'm out of ideas :(



So am I.  :lol

But maybe it's just a conspiracy to get me back to the so-called "real life"  :noid
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Post by: BaldEagl on August 13, 2009, 09:39:19 AM


So am I.  :lol

But maybe it's just a conspiracy to get me back to the so-called "real life"  :noid

Did you say you've tried older drivers for the GPU?  When doing so did you make sure to delete the installed drivers before installing others?  Have you tried running a driver cleaner before installing different drivers?
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 09:46:51 AM
Did you say you've tried older drivers for the GPU?  When doing so did you make sure to delete the installed drivers before installing others?  Have you tried running a driver cleaner before installing different drivers?

I used the stock drivers first that came with the card, then removed them, ran driver cleaner, installed newest.

I think everyone can understand, that I'm getting a bit tired of all this stuff.

If the just the game wouldn't lock-up would compatibility mode - everything would be fine, because apart form that, it runs like charm ;)
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Post by: Shuffler on August 13, 2009, 10:10:06 AM
Sorry to hear that lusche... hope you get that sorted out soon. Those little programs that optimize your ram and all seem to work well. Might try one of them.


My machine has no stutters on the new patch. Everything smooth as silk now and great visuals. Radeon HD4850 512
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: BaldEagl on August 13, 2009, 10:33:35 AM
<- deeply frustrated after 5 patches...  :(

I forgot to ask... just how "deeply frustrated" can a snail be?  I'd think at their slow rate of movement they'd be pretty adept at patience.   ;)
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Post by: Hajo on August 13, 2009, 10:36:49 AM
Shuffler and Lusche.
First i have dual 4850s, can only run one of them...but game looks great and I never had stutters.
SO maybe it's not a gpu issue.  If I run crossfire my frame rate is cut by two thirds.

But when I run a single 4850 the game looks and plays great.  So Shuffler since I have had no stutters
and we both have the same vidcard the problem just might be outside the Vid Card.

How about sound?  Drivers?  what card?  If not are you like me running no sound card and using a USB headset?

Have you tried turning down sound acceleration in Dxdiag?

I can't have CCC in the toolbar.  In other words the only thing I can do to maximize FR is insure that CCC isn't running.
ATI Tray tools I can't use.  I get the Blue Screen of death with a windows error message.

Just some random thoughts.  I randomly think......or is it rarely?
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 10:37:12 AM
I forgot to ask... just how "deeply frustrated" can a snail be?  I'd think at their slow rate of movement they'd be pretty adept at patience.   ;)

(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Tongue/making-fun-054.GIF)
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 10:40:01 AM
How about sound?  Drivers?  what card?  If not are you like me running no sound card and using a USB headset?

I had the same thoughts. SB Live! here.
So I used AH stock sounds to avoid any sound pack issues. Used old drivers first, then removed them and used newest ones. The I tried different acceleration settings.
Made no difference. Still the same stutters in compatibility mode
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lazerr on August 13, 2009, 11:21:05 AM
Im getting lock-ups like crazy since Ive had the game installed too. Runs better than 2.13 but when it locks, it locks hard.  Usually once every other sortie.
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: BaldEagl on August 13, 2009, 11:36:02 AM
I had the same thoughts. SB Live! here.
So I used AH stock sounds to avoid any sound pack issues. Used old drivers first, then removed them and used newest ones. The I tried different acceleration settings.
Made no difference. Still the same stutters in compatibility mode

Do you have onboard sound?  You might want to try that out just to eliminate your sound card as a potential issue.

Are you using a headset?  Is it plugged into the soundcard or is it USB?
Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
Do you have onboard sound?  You might want to try that out just to eliminate your sound card as a potential issue.

Are you using a headset?  Is it plugged into the soundcard or is it USB?

Ordinary headset, no usb. I have onboard, but didnt used it, as it worked fine in 2.13, and 2.14 when not in compatibility mode.

I'm just waiting right now. I think HiTech is on the problem again :)
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Post by: Shuffler on August 13, 2009, 12:14:29 PM
Ordinary headset, no usb. I have onboard, but didnt used it, as it worked fine in 2.13, and 2.14 when not in compatibility mode.

I'm just waiting right now. I think HiTech is on the problem again :)

Gee Lusche I just passed HiTech and he was heading to the golf course....  :huh
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Post by: Lusche on August 13, 2009, 12:22:52 PM
Gee Lusche I just passed HiTech and he was heading to the golf course....  :huh

Oh... Pyro just told me HiTech was working on a problem. I assumed he was talking about Aces High. Didn't know he meant his handicap  :furious
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Post by: Noir on August 13, 2009, 12:58:42 PM
I wish me crossfire worked too  :cry
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Post by: OOZ662 on August 13, 2009, 01:01:17 PM
With my luck, my clunker that has run the last four patches smooth as silk will be crippled by this new one. :D
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Post by: Anaxogoras on August 13, 2009, 01:06:35 PM
Download link works now.
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Post by: save on August 13, 2009, 01:09:10 PM
Test this if it helps :

Go to first sceen - and select video settings - select another texture size from what you have . select back to what you had before in max texture size
go into AH arenas and try if its gone.

I had to do this with my "old" 8800gts  320 meg for it to work.
I also reloaded directX  and my network card drivers.



When I changed my card to a new ati 4890 vapor-X problems where gone.
I use latest ati dual core optimizer and do not use compability mode.

opteron 185
dfi ultra
2 gig ram
xp-professional


Title: Re: PATCH 5! Thanks HTC
Post by: shppr01 on August 13, 2009, 01:33:06 PM
crap I hate being at work when a new patch is out....
I have the exact same problem!! can we work from home ?
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Post by: BaldEagl on August 13, 2009, 05:15:42 PM
I found out today I can turn on local water reflections again without a frame hit or stuttering.   :aok
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Post by: Reaper90 on August 14, 2009, 01:41:34 PM
 :rock

:beer: to HiTech and the crowd for the last patch.... my old POS computer seemed to run the update well, until I got around more than 5 or 6 other planes. Then my FR would go from around 30 to anywhere from 9-12. Titanic Tuesday was the worst - one big furball saw the FR drop to 3!!!
I was depressed Wednesday morning thinking I was going to somehow go without my AHII fixes til I could scrape together enough $$ to go ahead and buy a new computer.  :frown:

Install patch Wednesday and WOW, smooth as silk. Lowest FR I've seen is around 25, even in a furball. Averages in the near 40 range. Textures are better, too - less augering, and when I do it'm more stupidity than lack of depth perception.

 :aok :aok :aok three thumbs up on a job well done, guy!
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Post by: Pudgie on August 14, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Just for grins:

I loaded up GPU-Z & had it running in the background & went up w/ the newest patch 6.

My GTX 260 65nm Vanilla clocked at 625/1350/1200 w/o a hitch at 100 FPS.

Vid card running at 67*C at 87% fan speed drawing 42.5 amps!

I think AHII is using the shader capabilities quite well!

 :D