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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nemisis on August 13, 2009, 01:02:27 PM
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Which do you guys think is better, apple or dell. For me Dell is better. Apple says it is better for gaming, and all that stuff, but I am in doubt, and that price tag is kinda disturbing. Also apple is kind confusing, and almost none of my stuff works with it. Have any of you noticed that ipod's don't really like any computers but mac's? Some people say mac's don't get viruses, and my theory is that no one bothers to create a virus for apple computers. I bet some of apple's workers use Dell computers, and paid for them.
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. Apple says it is better for gaming, and all that stuff, but I am in doubt, and that price tag is kinda disturbing.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Apple has never claimed this in a million years. Find me a quote where they say they are better for gaming than PC. Most high end games cannot even run on a Mac, although that is because they have not been designed for them.
I have a Macbook, and wouldn't even dream of playing any form of top end game. Certainly if you want to play AH, you need to get a PC. HTC hasn't designed AH for OS X, although you can get around this by using Bootcamp to run Windows on Mac.
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I know there are people who play AH on their macs, maybe they'll speak up.
I have an iPod and I've never had any issues with syncing it to my pc. Maybe explain a little about why you think iPods don't work with pc's?
So far as I know, a big reason why there isn't much of a virus problem with apple is because they have Stalinist authority over who can publish software for their platforms. Gaining access to what goes on behind the scenes in osX is no easy task.
Lastly, Apple support is the best. Really. My wife had an issue with the camera on her macbook, and after apple support helped us fix the issue, they contacted us again the next day to make sure everything was still working smoothly. :O
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I know there are people who play AH on their macs, maybe they'll speak up.
I have an iPod and I've never had any issues with syncing it to my pc. Maybe explain a little about why you think iPods don't work with pc's?
So far as I know, a big reason why there isn't much of a virus problem with apple is because they have Stalinist authority over who can publish software for their platforms. Gaining access to what goes on behind the scenes in osX is no easy task.
Lastly, Apple support is the best. Really. My wife had an issue with the camera on her macbook, and after apple support helped us fix the issue, they contacted us again the next day to make sure everything was still working smoothly. :O
He clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.
iPod's work just as well with PCs as they do with Macs, although I find it a bit easier to use iTunes and Sync on OS X. (That is because I always have iTunes running.) The read time for the iPod to iTunes on a Mac could be a little faster than a PC as well, but that might just be in my head.
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Apple says it is better for gaming,
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Really, the decision is simple-
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Seriously though, I've never had issues syncing my iPod to my PC, and I don't even use iTunes.
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I never said, ipods don't work with pc's. You guys love to twist my words don't you? I got one, had trouble setting it up, had a bit of trouble syncing, just didn't want to recognized being hooked up. Some of the mac store people I have talked with say that mac is good for gaming. I don't know this is true, and some of you say it isn't. But anyway, thanks guys.
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Some of the mac store people I have talked with say that mac is good for gaming. I don't know this is true, and some of you say it isn't. But anyway, thanks guys.
That's not just untrue, it's an out right lie (unless you LOOOOOOVE you some brick), as unless you install a whole other operating system (Windows) on the machine you can't even run games on a Mac. I wouldn't call that a good setup for gaming.
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So far as I know, a big reason why there isn't much of a virus problem with apple is because they have Stalinist authority over who can publish software for their platforms. Gaining access to what goes on behind the scenes in osX is no easy task.
Last I heard the big reason there's not much of a virus problem on Macs is because there's not enough market share to make it worthwhile. Otherwise Macs are every bit as susceptible to viruses and spyware as a PC (at least as of several years ago, EVERY security flaw present in Windows XP was also in OS X). In fact, there's been several incidents of people writing viruses JUST to remind the world that it CAN be done. Literally, that's all the viruses did was tell you, "I could have REALLY hosed your machine if I wanted to."
As to the OP, your best option is to forget the off-the-shelf rigs and just build your own. Cheaper, easier to get exactly what you want, and better quality control.
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HA!!! Even Saxman agreed with me that no one really bothers to create viruses for macs.
And Sax, I already built a new dell. Should arrive tomarow if it arrives when it says. This is just a general thread with no porpouse other than to let me see other peoples's opinions.
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You didn't build it. Dell built it based on the limited options they provide you to pick from.
Big difference.
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Well lucky for me, dell had the stuff I was looking at in some other computers. I'm not really a graphics junky. As long as the picture isn't blurry, I don't care if I can't see the edges on the metal flying off of you shot up fighter. And I actually got a pretty good deal. N wireless card, 500gb memory, blueray, OLED screen, 48whr battery. Graphics card leaves something to be desired, but it is better than the one I have now, and that can play AH2 on the 800x600 setting, or whatever it is.
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Well lucky for me, dell had the stuff I was looking at in some other computers. I'm not really a graphics junky. As long as the picture isn't blurry, I don't care if I can't see the edges on the metal flying off of you shot up fighter. And I actually got a pretty good deal. N wireless card, 500gb memory, blueray, OLED screen, 48whr battery. Graphics card leaves something to be desired, but it is better than the one I have now, and that can play AH2 on the 800x600 setting, or whatever it is.
If you got integrated graphics again you most likely won't see much of a performance boost.
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Purchased a graphics card along with it. It says it's compatible, and if it's not then I will return it.
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Last I heard the big reason there's not much of a virus problem on Macs is because there's not enough market share to make it worthwhile. Otherwise Macs are every bit as susceptible to viruses and spyware as a PC (at least as of several years ago, EVERY security flaw present in Windows XP was also in OS X). In fact, there's been several incidents of people writing viruses JUST to remind the world that it CAN be done. Literally, that's all the viruses did was tell you, "I could have REALLY hosed your machine if I wanted to."
As to the OP, your best option is to forget the off-the-shelf rigs and just build your own. Cheaper, easier to get exactly what you want, and better quality control.
True 100%. One of my best friends ran Mac and he swore up, down, left, right, front and center that it beat my computer at pretty much everything, plus he, "didn't need an anti-virus!" So, with his permission, wrote a "virus" that would change his desktop to a crappily done picture (done in paint ;) ) saying that until he told me that I won, he wouldn't be able to change his background. Sent an e-mail to him with a picture (the "virus" was attached), and he called me that night saying that I won and to tell him how to get the dang thing off his computer. All he had to do was delete the files for it, but it can be done, and quite easily I must say...
And for building your own, www.newegg.com is your best friend. :)
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OK, thanks. I will go with "newegg" next time I buy.
<S> trigger2
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My commodore 64 will run new patch! :(
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Why the sad face? Did you mean ":D"?
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:lol :lol :lol :lol
Apple has never claimed this in a million years. Find me a quote where they say they are better for gaming than PC. Most high end games cannot even run on a Mac, although that is because they have not been designed for them.
I have a Macbook, and wouldn't even dream of playing any form of top end game. Certainly if you want to play AH, you need to get a PC. HTC hasn't designed AH for OS X, although you can get around this by using Bootcamp to run Windows on Mac.
How does receiving flies with a Microsoft attachment work out for you? I'm thinking about getting an Apple laptop and I'm concerned about this. I do a lot of reports, ratio sheets , and presentations. Does apple have the equivalent to a Microsoft office application?
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How does receiving flies with a Microsoft attachment work out for you? I'm thinking about getting an Apple laptop and I'm concerned about this. I do a lot of reports, ratio sheets , and presentations. Does apple have the equivalent to a Microsoft office application?
Yup, it's called Microsoft Office. ;)
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Yes, I have Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac (the actual name) , and it works perfectly for me with every program (Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc).
Used my Macbook last year at an all PC college, and had no problems whatsoever opening any Microsoft Office document/file.
You can buy it relatively inexpensively online. Would highly recommend it to you.
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Which do you guys think is better, apple or dell. For me Dell is better. Apple says it is better for gaming, and all that stuff, but I am in doubt, and that price tag is kinda disturbing. Also apple is kind confusing, and almost none of my stuff works with it. Have any of you noticed that ipod's don't really like any computers but mac's? Some people say mac's don't get viruses, and my theory is that no one bothers to create a virus for apple computers. I bet some of apple's workers use Dell computers, and paid for them.
I've run AHII on both - indeed, recently transitioned over to a Mac for game play. I'd say go Mac. My Mini - which was only about $900 sans accessories, handled the update with no issues. Generally, I've found it to be a rocking little machine with fabulous graphics capabilities.
The only downside: You need to run Bootcamp with AHII. This enables you to set up a windows partition on the Mac. You then have to load windows (your choice what level) to that partition and it will have all the problems Windows normally has. As for compatibility issues with Windows SW, there are none, provided you run a Windows partition. I also run a Virtual Machine partition with windows because that's a way to run windows in the Mac environment itself. However, you DO NOT want to run AHII on VMWare.
I've had at least 1 Mac (right now 2) and typically anywhere from 1 to 5 PCs in the house (differing brands, desktops & laptops) at any given time over the last two decades and have always found that Macs to be better (more reliable, more friendly), though at a cost.
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IMHO - Mac is the eye candy OS, also good for designing (Adobe products)
PC is the workhorse.
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IMHO - Mac is the eye candy OS, also good for designing (Adobe products)
PC is the workhorse.
Yup, Adobe products aren't available for Windows :)
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I run AH on this iMac Corduo that has bootcamp installed. Never had any issues, frame rate is always relatively solid (recent patch screwed with it a lil, but patches have sinced fixed that). Macs are very reliable in terms of anti-spyware/anti-virus. I have a Mac desktop in my room as well (Corduo, but does not have bootcamp installed), and I never have any issues with it. It runs Eve online very well.
Its just another option.
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IMHO - Mac is the eye candy OS, also good for designing (Adobe products)
PC is the workhorse.
I agree. My friend got an apple said he hated it, then got a windows computer and he said it was a nice little machine.
Does anyone here use linux (probably murdered the spelling)?
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Linux is ok...there are a few commercial games ported for it...but most games require wine or another emulator...doesn't work as well as a Mac with bootcamp or parallels installed.
The one thing you have to watch for by using a Mac for Windows games is hardware acceleration for the video card...doesn't always happen the right way.
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Does anyone here use linux (probably murdered the spelling)?
I used to dual boot Ubuntu (a Linux Distribution). It's a bit more... eh, complicated I guess? Than Windows, but I'd much rather use that than a Mac.
Do Mac's have right click yet, btw?
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(shrugs) I duknow. I'd guess not. So is Linux better than windows or just different, and can it run AH2?
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My brother-in-law is a Mac Genius who thinks all PCs are trash. He's very proud of the Apple products he supports. But, hehe... Every day he goes to work where there is a line of people reaching all the way through the store. These people are waiting to get tech support on their Macs.
So.. to me that means, computers are computers, the same types of things go wrong on any machine. But with Apple, there is a single source for service and products. For PCs there is an open and competitive market.
At to iTunes... On my PC it's a resource hog, as is QuickTime.
I can run AcesHigh II on my $200 Dell with a $70 graphics card. Why spend the $$$ for a piece of fruit?
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Rotten fruit that tastes like silicon.
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Do Mac's have right click yet, btw?
Mac's have always had a right click. You can enable a two-finger track pad touch on the laptops, and the mice on desktops are pressure sensitive to the right side for that click.
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Which do you guys think is better, apple or dell.
Neither.
(shrugs) I duknow. I'd guess not. So is Linux better than windows or just different, and can it run AH2?
An AH pilot managed to get it running with RedHat (or something similar) Linux. From what I read, it was a difficult process.
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Linux is a hella faster, I put it on my older laptop as an aux computer and it boots up nearly instantly.
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An AH pilot managed to get it running with RedHat (or something similar) Linux. From what I read, it was a difficult process.
I'm pretty sure pervert got AH 2.14 running on Ubuntu through Wine with no trouble.
Mac's have always had a right click. You can enable a two-finger track pad touch on the laptops, and the mice on desktops are pressure sensitive to the right side for that click.
The Mac Desktops & Laptops that my school district bought don't have the ability to right click on the mouse/button, you have to press ctrl+button. The two-finger track pad on the laptops is nice in comparison to most laptops I've used, though.
(shrugs) I duknow. I'd guess not. So is Linux better than windows or just different, and can it run AH2?
From what I understand, Linux is actually more similar to Mac OS's from a technical standpoint (both being Unix based), however... I don't know how to explain it... you have to have a fair knowledge of commands in terminal to get anything out of it. Nothing complicated, but it's something else you have to learn.
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My brother-in-law is a Mac Genius who thinks all PCs are trash.
Heh I share an office with a bunch of mac people (enterprise level mac engineers). Trust me for every issue in windows you can find the same thing on a mac... BSOD... mac has the Brown Screen of Death (aka Kernel panic), "it just works on the mac" ... except when you have to go fishing for Mopier drivers or 3G device drivers.
The funniest thing is the malware aspect, you point out that mac malware and now botnets exist in the wild - they'll point out that you need to click on the malware to get infected (hullo mac people how do you think pc malware works).
Mac's are nice, but they are overhyped and there is a huge amount of mis-education and plain old marketing bollocks surrounding them.