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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Anodizer on August 14, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
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I connected them via a USB to Gameport adapter since I don't have a gameport.. They are not recognized by Windows XP SP3 when I plug them in.. I'm also using a Saitek X-52 along with them and they are connected via USB as well(duh)..
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Game port to USB? Have you looked through the CH support site to see if those pedals don't need any extra drivers or something silly like that?
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Game port to USB? Have you looked through the CH support site to see if those pedals don't need any extra drivers or something silly like that?
CH no longer supports any of their gameport products.... I've been waiting for them to answer their techsupport phone-line for an hour...
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CH no longer supports any of their gameport products.... I've been waiting for them to answer their techsupport phone-line for an hour...
the adaptor you use, there is usually a switch to allow setups for 2 axis, 3 axis and 4 axis (stick and pedals) sticks. Select the 4 axis option (if the adaptor allows it) and then is should appear in XP as a 4 axis controller. You'll then need to use the Saitek software to program your stick.
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the adaptor you use, there is usually a switch to allow setups for 2 axis, 3 axis and 4 axis (stick and pedals) sticks. Select the 4 axis option (if the adaptor allows it) and then is should appear in XP as a 4 axis controller. You'll then need to use the Saitek software to program your stick.
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The adapter I have is simple and has no switch or anything.. It's from my old Sidewinder..
Are you saying that I need one of these? http://sewelldirect.com/USB-to-Gameport-Adapter-for-Joysticks-Controllers-and-Gamepads.asp (http://sewelldirect.com/USB-to-Gameport-Adapter-for-Joysticks-Controllers-and-Gamepads.asp)
Also, why will I have to use the Saitek software to set up my stick if it's already working? Does it have something to do with having both pedals and stick connected??
I know your the CH expert here and was totally counting on you to respond... :rock Thanks!
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The adapter I have is simple and has no switch or anything.. It's from my old Sidewinder..
Are you saying that I need one of these? http://sewelldirect.com/USB-to-Gameport-Adapter-for-Joysticks-Controllers-and-Gamepads.asp (http://sewelldirect.com/USB-to-Gameport-Adapter-for-Joysticks-Controllers-and-Gamepads.asp)
Also, why will I have to use the Saitek software to set up my stick if it's already working? Does it have something to do with having both pedals and stick connected??
I know your the CH expert here and was totally counting on you to respond... :rock Thanks!
This is the one. The one you linked to only supports two axis and won't work. This is the one you want.
http://sewelldirect.com/Manhattan-Joystick-Adapter-DB15-USB.asp (http://sewelldirect.com/Manhattan-Joystick-Adapter-DB15-USB.asp)
It will allow you to connect your joystick and pedals and windows will recognized them as a 4 axis, 4 button controller, then all you would need to do is run the Saitek programming software and program the buttons on your joystick. If you don't use the Saitek software to program your buttons, you'll be limited to only 4 buttons by default.
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Your Saitek is connected USB already..... it is only your CH Pedals that need to be attached as they are gameport?
I'm asking as I think there may be a misunderstanding of your setup.
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Your Saitek is connected USB already..... it is only your CH Pedals that need to be attached as they are gameport?
I'm asking as I think there may be a misunderstanding of your setup.
If that is the case and the Saitek is a USB stick, then the adaptor will only work if you use a basic analog joystick. Connect the basic joystick with the pedals into the USB game port and the Saitek in another USB game port. In Windows, the pedals and the basic stick connected to the adaptor should read 4 axis, 4 buttons. Calibrate them. In AH, when you assign which axis to use with your stick, select the Saitek for elevator, roll and (I'm assuming its got a build in throttle) throttle and the pedals for Yaw. That's the only real way you'll be able to get it to work.
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I had the older analog CH pedals working with the Manhattan USB/Gameport Adapter. Windows saw them no problem.
This was using a CH USB Stick and and USB Throttle, before I got the USB pedals.
The pedals Ano is trying to hook up are from me -- I forgot I bid on them on Ebay while I went and purchased USB pedals online. So then I had two sets of pedals.
Shouldn't Windows be able to see these Analog pedals with the X,Y, and Z axis with the Manhattan switch? And then be able to program those in AH2 for left brake, right brake, and rudder.
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:furious :furious :furious
I already ordered the wrong the thing that Ack-Ack said not to... Dammit!!
They have the proper one you mention for $21.99..
Proceeding to repeatedly kick myself in the nutts now.... :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Ok, I had Katanaso send me his Manhattan, but I also hooked up the thing I ordered and they both work!! :x :x
Now, the only issues I have is that I can't get it to recognize the toe breaks, which isn't really necessary, but would be nice to have....
Anyway to get the toe breaks to work?
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Does windows see the three axis? Brakes are X,Y.
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Ano,
I was typing this last night, but not sure if you saw it:
When initially configuring it in Windows, did you select a 3 axis joystick, or rudder pedals?
I think you might need to select a 3 axis joystick (or a device with 3 or more axis) so that the toe brakes (X and Y axis) are recognized.
Just a thought.
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Ok, I had Katanaso send me his Manhattan, but I also hooked up the thing I ordered and they both work!! :x :x
Now, the only issues I have is that I can't get it to recognize the toe breaks, which isn't really necessary, but would be nice to have....
Anyway to get the toe breaks to work?
It depends on how you have the pedals set up in Windows using the USB game port. I believe the max limitations for USB gamports is 4 axis, and if that's the case you won't get the toe brakes to work because they are two seperate axis.
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It depends on how you have the pedals set up in Windows using the USB game port. I believe the max limitations for USB gamports is 4 axis, and if that's the case you won't get the toe brakes to work because they are two seperate axis.
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Do you mean a max limitation per USB device? Not a total of 4 axis for all devices combined.
I keep thinking the pedals should be able to register as a 3 or 4 axis device, with X, Y, and Z axis' that can be calibrated in Windows. Two for the toe brakes, one for the rudder.
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Do you mean a max limitation per USB device? Not a total of 4 axis for all devices combined.
I keep thinking the pedals should be able to register as a 3 or 4 axis device, with X, Y, and Z axis' that can be calibrated in Windows. Two for the toe brakes, one for the rudder.
If the pedals are connected alone to the USB adaptor you can try and see if you can set it up as a 4 axis controller but if there is another device connected to the adaptor along with the pedals, you won't get the toe brakes to work since the max axis recognized by most adaptors is 4 axis.
A problem that cropped up many years ago when I was at CH and testing the Rockfire USB game port adaptor with a set of analog Pro Pedals was the calibration process of the toe brakes. I had to jerry rig a button to the pedals to allow me to calibrate properly since for Windows calibration, a button press was needed to save the calibration (pressing Next when calibrating in Windows does not save the calibration, it just skips that calibration step) when I was testing the adaptor with just the pedals and no joystick connected.
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Yeah, I believe that's the only device connected to the adapter. His stick and throttle are both USB devices. That's why I'm hoping (really hoping) that the 4-axis controller would work.
I know it's not high on Ano's priority list, but I'd really like to get them to work for him.
Thanks for the input. :)
mir
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Yeah, I believe that's the only device connected to the adapter. His stick and throttle are both USB devices. That's why I'm hoping (really hoping) that the 4-axis controller would work.
I know it's not high on Ano's priority list, but I'd really like to get them to work for him.
Thanks for the input. :)
mir
In theory he should get them to work with the adaptor. The only potential problem I see is the calibration process since a button press is needed during calibration to save the calibration step. However, there are programs out there that resolve this, but it's been so long that I can't recall which site has those programs. Think one program was called JTest or something like that. I know Logitech has a site called Wingman Gadgets that have some joystick utilities that work with any DirectX compliant joystick but not sure if they have a calibration program that would help you. If you're able to code in C++ or Visual Basic, there are a few sites that have instructions on how to make your own joystick routine that you could use to make a custom calibration program for your pedals.
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