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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Strip on August 18, 2009, 01:53:22 AM
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Some interest was given to this in the Special Events forum so figured it was worth a shot
here. I consider this one of the last true frontiers in Aces High so it would be a fun event. Great
bombers are capable of hitting any target at any alt in the main arenas. With some practice its
not hard and many find it gets boringly easy, in the main arena who could blame them. However,
when is the last time you had to use a manual sight and fight wind. Go high enough and suddenly
that hanger looks like moving target. If your one who things bombing is easy, well, here is your
shot at glory. If you think bombing is boring, come watch everyone try not to miss.
The format could go something like this....
Plane: Every pilot gets his or her choice of formation, fuel, plane, and ordnance load out.
Wind: Ten to twenty mph winds with realistic layers. Direction and strength will be unknown
to the players beforehand. Wind shear will be present so that bombing direction will not
effect precision.
Takeoff: Players will air spawn at 20,000 feet, fifty to one hundred miles away from target.
Target: Will be any town, strategic, or civilian target set for instant respawn.
Score: This is were the competition will get interesting...
The score to be determined by damage divided by dropped bomb weight time altitude in
thousands of feet. The winner would be determined from film, logs, and bomb damage.
The formula written out would look like this...
(Damage/Dropped Weight) * Altitude= Score
So someone can drop three 250 kg bombs from a single Ki-67 at 30,000 feet and have a
equal footing with a formation of Lancasters dropping 2,000lb bombs at 10,000 feet. A
combination of logs and film will verify drop altitude, bomb quantity and weight.
The event should last about an hour to an hour and a half. So how about it.....who would you be
up to the challenge? The rules can be adjusted/finalized later but for now would you be interested?
Strip (Secret Bomber Dweeb)
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Can I just take a 234 up, get a few A2A kills and win? :D
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You can take a AR-234 and bomb for the win....
;)
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Great idea strip! :aok
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sounds good. i'll try it. :salute
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Yup, I like it! :aok
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Hmmm.... :aok :cool:
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SAPP has bomber competitions. :)
Actually some time back the 80th met up with another squad off one of the MA maps and had a dogfight in B-24s. Was a lot of fun.
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I'm in
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I'm in
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Sounds interesting. :cool:
Just trying to figure out how I can approximate an Intervelometer in AHII.
I am assuming that practice sessions will be available for periods of time prior to competition?
Later,
KayBay :cool:
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now how many people do you think remembers or even knows how to bomb with wind. wind has not played affect with bombers since AHI
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Where are the 4-5 Me109's doing a coordinated attack on you at the same time? 99900 <S>
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The interest so far has been promising so I will move forward with this. It will require a CM so I
will have to find a slot that works for them. Hopefully I can get something for a Saturday or Sunday
from 3pm to 9pm. At least this way some of the Euro players have a chance to attend. Those who
wish to attend are encouraged to practice with wind at some point. Online practice will more than
likely not be available but I will try. Most likely it would be available the day of or the day before the
event. I will post something showing how to adjust wind in the offline arena, along with a sample wind
layer setup. When I get confirmation from a CM I will post specifics and the wind writeup. I am looking
forward to this event and I hope to get a strong showing.
:salute
Strip
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Where are the 4-5 Me109's doing a coordinated attack on you at the same time? 99900 <S>
Thats about a fair fight for you 999!
:D
I had hoped you would chime in with some interest, would you be able to make it?
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Sign me up!!! And 999000, most of us are not capable of bombing AND gunning at the same time. We can do one or the other, not both.
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Sign me up!!! And 999000, most of us are not capable of bombing AND gunning at the same time. We can do one or the other, not both.
I hear 999000 is not very experienced with bombing/gunning, you should give him some help in that area.
:lol :lol :lol
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Let me use a Stuka and I can do both...any chance of Stukas at 10k with a single 1000 pounder?
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Cool Idea, would love to participate! :aok
:salute Strip for your hard work!
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Instant respawn might mean some buildings are blown up twice or more when dropping salvos of 1k bombs, would a 10 second respawn be more accurate for scoring methods?
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:aok :rock :salute
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I hear 999000 is not very experienced with bombing/gunning, you should give him some help in that area.
:lol :lol :lol
Good God, not me. I can only be described as average unless you call a ktd ratio of 5 or6 :1 good.
I wound plenty of planes, but I don't usually kill them unless I, for some reason known only to god, make it for longer than 5 minutes. I usually loose track of which plane comes in close enough for me to hurt them bad enough to make the shot worth it.
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Only planes with bomb sights will be enabled and bombs will be dropped from F6 view.'
Planeset....
Ar-234
B-17
B-24
B-25C
B-26
Boston MkIII
Ju-88A-4
Ki-67
Lancaster
TBM-3
That was just remind people of the various choices we have.
Mechanic, point taken and I will definitely move that out to a few seconds. (For the curious, the idea behind re-spawn is to allow targets to be attacked by multiple players .)
TonyJoey, thanks mate! :salute
<S> Strip
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Oh he__ YES! :aok
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Sounds good however how will we know what the wind direction and speed is if its not posted to the pilots/bombedier if we dont know wind direction and speed we wont be able to compensate for the drop? If were just gonna have to drop all the sticks into the wind and hope we hit something that doesnt sound like much fun to me. Also will the wind speed change by altitude or be the same wether youre 20k or 10k?? Higher the altitudes meen higher wind speeds IRL.The idea sounds good but theres alot of details that need to be worked out before hand.IMHO
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now how many people do you think remembers or even knows how to bomb with wind. wind has not played affect with bombers since AHI
i've never bombed with the manual calibration........would like if that could be added.,.....and the wind thing.....would be awsome!
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Sounds good however how will we know what the wind direction and speed is if its not posted
to the pilots/bombedier if we dont know wind direction and speed we wont be able to compensate
for the drop? If were just gonna have to drop all the sticks into the wind and hope we hit
something that doesnt sound like much fun to me. Also will the wind speed change by altitude
or be the same wether youre 20k or 10k?? Higher the altitudes meen higher wind speeds IRL.
The idea sounds good but theres alot of details that need to be worked out before hand.IMHO
The official speed and direction will be posted on the MOTD right before start. The wind is
also on your clipboard map if you right click and select wind. I am still researching the wind layers
typically found in real life situations. Practice will have a similar wind setup but it will not be the
same during competition. Not revealing the exact direction until competition will insure everyone
is on a fair playing field. If you know the exact wind you can practice the drop over and over until
you perfect it. This would make hitting a target a lot easier if you know the exact windage required
come competition day.
Strip
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i've never bombed with the manual calibration........would like if that could be added.,.....
and the wind thing.....would be awsome!
Bomb sight will be set to manual mode...
BTW.....
I want to point out this challenge also requires you to tulips your own skills and abilities.
Bombing from a lower altitude may insure your odds on hitting your target. Going in at lower
altitude while getting descent hits is far better than going high and getting no hits. Couple
that with the infinite choice of ordnance, target and plane choices and its going to take real
skill to win.
Strip
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Only planes with bomb sights will be enabled and bombs will be dropped from F6 view.'
Planeset....
Ar-234
B-17
B-24
B-25C
B-26
Boston MkIII
Ju-88A-4
Ki-67
Lancaster
TBM-3
That was just remind people of the various choices we have.
<S> Strip
You forgot the B5N, love that plane for killing shore batteries.
BOSTON II POWER! :rock
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Bomb sight will be set to manual mode...
BTW.....
I want to point out this challenge also requires you to tulips your own skills and abilities.
Strip
he said tulips lol
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Enker,
Its appears I did, my mistake, for some reason I did not think it had a level bomb sight.
B5N2 is also available.
<S>
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he said tulips lol
:lol
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Oka children....
:lol
I meant assess...
:D
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Bump for new info...
Most of the major hurdles, finding a cm, clearing issues with the logs, rules, stuff like that, have been cleared. I am shooting to get the event off in about a month or so, perhaps on the FSO off week. The exact date is up to the hosting CM but I still hope to have a Saturday or Sunday slot. Barring any eureka moments the event will follow the previous rules and general outline. As far as I know this will be the first competition of this type in AH, its shaping up to be an absolute blast! See you there....
:aok
I will post specifics (date, time, etc) when the event has been finalized, stay tuned!
<S> Strip
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I am staring at a ... well Trophy/Bust from a Bombing Competition from War Birds at a Convention back in... 99 maybee?
Actually it was the A/G competition.
Accuracy is simple for HTC to figure, they get the plot point of impact from the target, mine happened to be 0/0, IE Dead on target. From a P38 no less.
But yes, it should be possible and I am sure that a member of HTC can return results of accuracy and the GM's can ensure that all the variables/rules are followed for a score to be counted.
Should be a good time. i am not much of a bomber tho, I prefer the Fighter/Bomber.
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HatTrick,
Accuracy is will not be a apart of the scoring criteria per say. I considered that type of format but decided it lacked any creativity. Figuring out the scoring verses drop altitude would be a nightmare. If you set a specific altitude your basically back to a one dimensional competition. Having this open format will bring a lot of different styles to the table. Flying this would be a lot of fun for me but I am going to be running it. Given the opportunity I would probably take a B-26 or Ki-67 up to 30,000 feet and pray. As it is I think your going to see a bunch of B-17s and B-24s anywhere from 15,000 to 25,000 feet. I want every plane to have an equal shot and get some of the hanger queens involved.
:rock
Strip