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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1pLUs44 on August 19, 2009, 01:45:35 PM
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and started doodling around.
I finally found out what I wanted to draw, and I got this:
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/img001.jpg)
I plan to hopefully put on some markings on the P-40.
I honestly think it's the best thing that I've ever drawn. :lol And it's not even all that good.
Only thing I'm having real trouble with is the propeller placements, looks a little out of place.
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Prop placement is fine, it's just bent from me trying to land.
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Not bad 1plus!
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dont know if anyone else is having a problem with seeing it but I cant, its too light.
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Well, it's better than the P-40s I would draw freshman year in Bio. They looked more like F-86s, with a propeller and a air scoop. I really like the way you did the canopy.
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Yea, I tried to have it going over a smoking betty... but I don't think I did too good on the G4M itself.
right now, I'm just thinking of how to make good stars for the wings and what not.
And in reply to you Ink, it was really a sketch, I draw light so when I mess up, I can erase and leave not as much of a trace. Of course, there's some spots where you can openly see where I tried to erase. It will be big on the betty.
My next 2 planes I'm gonna try are gonna be Me-109 and the P-47. Probably just flying in on their own, since it's hard to make realistic smoke, with a pencil and pretty much no artwork experience (if that makes sense).
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Yea, I tried to have it going over a smoking betty... but I don't think I did too good on the G4M itself.
right now, I'm just thinking of how to make good stars for the wings and what not.
And in reply to you Ink, it was really a sketch, I draw light so when I mess up, I can erase and leave not as much of a trace. Of course, there's some spots where you can openly see where I tried to erase. It will be big on the betty.
My next 2 planes I'm gonna try are gonna be Me-109 and the P-47. Probably just flying in on their own, since it's hard to make realistic smoke, with a pencil and pretty much no artwork experience (if that makes sense).
When making smoke, lay down some lead on a separate piece of paper, a palette if you will, get some of that lead on your finger, and then rub it onto the paper in looping motions. Make sure to only get a little lead, and do it very lightly so that you can have various values. Of course, you could just ask one of the local art teachers if you could have a tortellon, as they are usually very cheap and help immensely when trying to get lead onto the paper in small increments (Knows from the shading unit in Design and Drawing. Doing those flowers was a pain!). Use the tortellon as if it were your finger when getting the lead onto the paper. Also, you can use the tortellon to smooth out the textures in the shaded areas so you cannot see the various pencil strokes.
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Here's how I finished it:
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/img002.jpg)
I found out that the opposite wing of the betty never seemed to look right. Gave me a LOT of trouble. Same with the cockpit alignment. I somehow got it right, but it doesn't look how it should.
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We'll put it on the refridgerator tomorrow son... :rofl
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#1 rule of art:
Reference.
Gotta have it.
Ideally a photo of the plane yer doing at the attitude you want to portray.
I built a decent plastic model, painted in generic silver, and took a pix of them at the angle I wanted to paint.
Awesome reference.
Markings on the plane model help, but .. not real hard to layout on a sketch.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/sketches/Spit9_KK_1_93.jpg)
Then .. once yer sketch looks good enough, ink it.. and erase pencil after ink is well dry, using a soft eraser.
-GE aka Frank
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stunning!
and 1plus yours is alot better than i can draw
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Looks good 1+......I'll have to dig around and scan some of my pencil drawings
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Currently working on F4U, having a LOT of trouble with the bent wing. Just can't seem to make it right...
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I can get the cockpit and everything right, the damn wing is really hard, because I have to make it thinner, so it looks just like a thinner wing
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Currently working on F4U, having a LOT of trouble with the bent wing. Just can't seem to make it right...
Edit:
I can get the cockpit and everything right, the damn wing is really hard, because I have to make it thinner, so it looks just like a thinner wing
I'm working on a Corsair right now too, they're just tough. The Hellcat is much easier, but I'm not too far into that one yet. Keep plugging away at it and you'll get there. The trick is to know when it's as good as it's going to get and any more work will just screw it up.
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+1000, betr than anything i could do :P
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Only thing I'm having real trouble with is the propeller placements, looks a little out of place.
I'm no artist (can't even draw a straight line, much less a perfect circle) so I might be wrong. it does look a little off to me.
the prop placement seems to be fine, the smudge showing motion should be arcing in a circular radius <not sure if I'm saying it right, hope you know what I mean>. the actual prop lines should be straight, maybe.
maybe someone who is an artist can post an example sketch of a prop in motion for you to look at.
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Currently working on F4U, having a LOT of trouble with the bent wing. Just can't seem to make it right...
Edit:
I can get the cockpit and everything right, the damn wing is really hard, because I have to make it thinner, so it looks just like a thinner wing
I gave up on drawing a Corsair in Bio in my Freshman year. :frown: All because of those wings. After that, I finished up the year trying to make biplanes and Gloster Gladiators.
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been an artist my whole life, takes lots a practice to get where you want, but when you do, you will find that you can go further.
my best advise is don't give up.
I did this about 5 years ago in pencil.
you should get a set of drawing pencils 2-H,3-H,6-H those are for outlining,2-B,4-B,6-B,are for shading,and thick smooth paper "strathmore" is a good brand.100 weight
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/sunkenP-40.jpg)
Practice,Practice,Practice.
should I say that one more time Practice.
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i got problems with shadows it doesnt look dimensional its flat
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/N22/img011-1.jpg)
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its not so much shadows as texture. look at how the P40 in Ink's pic has depth back to the tail due to combination of shadow and texture, getting darker and less detailed the further away you look. Much harder to envoke depth with a line drawing even with some rough shadows. You got the shape really well, the two wings looking equal is the hardest for me. If you want that to look more real without filling it all in you would have to make the shadows 100% perfect to convey the 3d shape.
Your 109 and 1Plus' P40 would look good fighting each other. Scrap that Betty it sucks (sorry 1 plus :D)
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I didn't think it was too bad, especially for an afternoon's work. I say that at least he's putting a pencil to paper, and that's a lot more than most people do. It's a very good start if you ask me.
Ink, I really dig that pic man, great job! Outstanding light reflections from the water's surface, nice touch.
KgB, really good stuff too!
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been an artist my whole life, takes lots a practice to get where you want, but when you do, you will find that you can go further.
my best advise is don't give up.
I did this about 5 years ago in pencil.
you should get a set of drawing pencils 2-H,3-H,6-H those are for outlining,2-B,4-B,6-B,are for shading,and thick smooth paper "strathmore" is a good brand.100 weight
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/sunkenP-40.jpg)
Practice,Practice,Practice.
should I say that one more time Practice.
P-51 with shark's mouth on the bottom of the ocean? Or am I missing something?
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I'm taking a whack at the P-63 right now, still gotta adjust some stuff on the fuselage and what not.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/P-63KingCobra003.jpg)
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that is a good one, the cockpit looks 3D.
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P-51 with shark's mouth on the bottom of the ocean? Or am I missing something?
p-40
it was a painting that I saw and liked greatly so instead of painting it I drew it.
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been an artist my whole life, takes lots a practice to get where you want, but when you do, you will find that you can go further.
my best advise is don't give up.
I did this about 5 years ago in pencil.
you should get a set of drawing pencils 2-H,3-H,6-H those are for outlining,2-B,4-B,6-B,are for shading,and thick smooth paper "strathmore" is a good brand.100 weight
Practice,Practice,Practice.
should I say that one more time Practice.
Nicely done. Another addition to that list - shading stick. To me it helps with shading...a bit cheating, but still.
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Nicely done. Another addition to that list - shading stick. To me it helps with shading...a bit cheating, but still.
not cheating at all. works real nice on human bodies.
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If anyone would like to sample my art, I got some posted here: http://xbrooklynx.deviantart.com/ (http://xbrooklynx.deviantart.com/)
Here's a couple of my aircraft drawings:
"Spitfire of 417"
I actually got this one signed by Charlie Fox himself. I had crap pencil crayons, using mostly Crayola but some good Laurentiens. Pencil crayon, 8x11" white office paper
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/AaronJamesDS/Drawings/spit80012.jpg)
"Under Death's Shadow...
I drew this representation of a photo I once saw in a national geographic for a gr 11 art project. I used mostly 2B for this, but had some 6B as well. Graphite, 8x11" white office paper.
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/AaronJamesDS/Drawings/b170102.jpg)
EDIT: Edited links.
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I'm taking a whack at the P-63 right now, still gotta adjust some stuff on the fuselage and what not.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/P-63KingCobra003.jpg)
Nice work, a couple things stand out to me though. The elevators should be horizontal, as they are now they appear a bit tilted, the prop is a bit short, and the air intake's angle is a bit off. It should flow from the fuselage itself.
Ex) (http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot/modernplanes/modern-ba-bn/bell-p-63c-kingcobra.gif)
Keep it up though!
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p-40
it was a painting that I saw and liked greatly so instead of painting it I drew it.
I didn't know that a P-40 had a bubble canopy and a four bladed prop :P
Jokes aside that is what I call ART! I would definitely hang it in my room :aok
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Giving the P-63 a little more work. I'm gonna try some shadowing on the fuselage itself, and see how that turns out
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If anyone would like to sample my art, I got some posted here: http://xbrooklynx.deviantart.com/ (http://xbrooklynx.deviantart.com/)
Here's a couple of my aircraft drawings:
"Spitfire of 417"
I actually got this one signed by Charlie Fox himself. I had crap pencil crayons, using mostly Crayola but some good Laurentiens. Pencil crayon, 8x11" white office paper
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/AaronJamesDS/Drawings/spit80012.jpg)
"Under Death's Shadow...
I drew this representation of a photo I once saw in a national geographic for a gr 11 art project. I used mostly 2B for this, but had some 6B as well. Graphite, 8x11" white office paper.
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/AaronJamesDS/Drawings/b170102.jpg)
EDIT: Edited links.
very nice work!!!
I didn't know that a P-40 had a bubble canopy and a four bladed prop :P
Jokes aside that is what I call ART! I would definitely hang it in my room :aok
now i feel like an idiot, all this time never caught on to that :rofl and thanx
on a side note, this is the type of art I very much enjoy doing. took me around 50 hrs, drawn in pencil first then painted with acrylic, on board 22by28
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/monitorfull.JPG1.jpg)
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Very Nice
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Some awesome work posted, thanks for sharing :)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/sketches/F4U_1D.jpg)
Pencil sketch on posterboard, then inked, then acrylic painted .. corsair is very much a challenge because there is so much going on in that shape ..easy to get 'off' .. tuff to make it look right.
A good detail photo helps, a good model helps even more.
-GE aka Frank
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that's great, you got the shape of those wings just perfectly. :O
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awesome Grayeagle :aok
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This is an oil painting that my nephew did when he was a senior in High School. It's a very large painting, about 4' x 5' or so (maybe larger)... Kid has some talent.
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/2647.jpg)
Personally, I don't have an artistic bone in my body...
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Kid has some talent.
And good taste in aircraft :aok
now i feel like an idiot, all this time never caught on to that :rofl and thanx
You're welcome. Still a nice piece :aok
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The sundown F-14 is very well done :)
Nice detail on the ejection seats an such.
Be willin to bet he had a good reference to work from :)
Oil on canvas is amazing stuff ..
I love the color density, no see-thru at all like acrylics so its all about mixing to get the shade you want.
I use a trick I learned from readin about Boris Vallejo to get bright colors on a canvas.
I prep the canvas using Gesso ..it's kinda like spackle, fills in the weave and dries to a bright white base.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/GEart/FPASS.jpg)
(the stang just smoked a 262 in the approach, and now has to deal with the CAP Wulf ..he's fast but ..the Wulf is too)
I have only done a few oil on canvas paintings .. every one of them has sold, some before I even laid brush to canvas.
I have a tendency to bury myself in them, it's just such an awesome medium to work in.
The photo's dont do them justice unfortunately .. color density and dynamic range just doesnt come thru in a photo.
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hiya GE, check your PM's
:)
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I didn't know that a P-40 had a bubble canopy and a four bladed prop :P
Jokes aside that is what I call ART! I would definitely hang it in my room :aok
Actually... it looks more like a 51 with a sharks mouth. Look at the shape of the tail. Combine that with the bubble canopy, and the prop... thats a 51.
Oh... and lots of GREAT art in this thread :aok Love it!
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This has turned into an excellent thread! It's one of my favorites so far, I hope people keep posting stuff!
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(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/GEart/GMAN.jpg)
The last oil painting I have done to date . . finished just after starting to work at Kesmai.
Took a long time due to movin to C'ville, whole career starting, Kesmai crunch day was every day in the early years there.
He wanted somethin Big an Bloo . and ..Big.
And Bloo.
So it had to be a Corsair, natch :)
I didn't want background distracting from the moment .. so yer about 12k just into the clouds as you blow by your latest victim, poor zeke saw ya comin about a beat late.
Sayonara.
Big an Bloo alla way :)
G-man .. Rolf .. got me into Air Warrior ..all his fault.
I had never heard of it.
Just blew me away when I first fired it up on my Amiga 500.
I was so there.