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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: PFactorDave on August 26, 2009, 07:50:24 PM
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Was looking for something different to pass the time when I am away from AH2... Was thinking about giving Eve Online a try. Any thoughts anyone?
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I enjoyed it for awhile. Got bored and left. Then came back and joined a pirate/griefer corp. Now THAT was fun.
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Hyperion is addicted to it.
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I still play on and off. I have two characters...one in a corp with some RL friends the other in MM.
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I play daily. I would say its not for everyone, but if you're looking for a mature game (or at least one that only mature folks have the patience for), you'll love it. Good news is that it has a two week trial for free. I love the game, at least as far as its potential. I'm happily established in a pretty good stretch of null sec that allows me to PvP almost every night I want.
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Any advice for somebody wanting to start out?
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Was thinking about giving Eve Online a try. Any thoughts anyone?
what is this?
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Any advice for somebody wanting to start out?
Get yourself into a solid starting corp (and i don't mean those corps that are BEGGING for members). The difference between playing with a group of people or just by yourself is large in terms of enjoyment (imho). Mining/Missioning by yourself could be great, yeah, but doing it with the other people that have the same enjoyment as yourself can be a large boost.
Some good starter tips:
-Start with the race you feel you'll have the most enjoyment playing as:
Gallante (think USA), Ammar (think Egyptians, religous based), Minmatar (young republic), and Caldari (state composed of mega corporations).
- Gallante are short range fighters and largely use blasters and drones, small bots that attack your enemies.
- Ammar use lasers that hit for normally high damage and good accuracy.
- Caldari primarily are long range fighters, using railguns and missiles.
- Minmatar have Projectile weapons, which are currently the short end of the stick in terms of weapons, but have some of the best cruisers and frigates.
- Do missions in the beginning of your career to make yourself cash and get experience with weapons. Do some offhand mining if you'd like to see the industrial side of the game as well.
- Until you feel you have a good hand on your combat skills and could fight back if need be, don't venture into low sec.
- Always keep your clone up to date.
and thats all I can think of for now. The rest you'd learn on your own.
I currently live in 0.0 in Outer Ring (like 25 jumps of so of Gallante space) and fight in the "mythical" 0.0 battles between alliances fighting for control of space.
Good luck, hope to see you flying in the skies. If you need any help, contact my character "Rant Calmante" via chat or mail, i'll do what I can.
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find a good corp and people that wont screw you. to start with then move to 0.0 and have fun and make loads of isk :rock
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Eve is a decent game if it hooks you. However, it's learning curve is rather steep and it has some quarks that I don't like. I used to play it alot but right now I just check on my skill levels once a month.
Here is good description of the game:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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I never tried Eve. (it's a shame, the game is Icelandic like myself!!!). Here's one you can try without subscribing:
http://www.taleworlds.com/
Got me hooked.
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Any advice for somebody wanting to start out?
I would encourage you to use the two week trial to make a couple of different characters--one that's heavily industrial, a combat focused one, etc. See what you like most. I wouldn't even go shopping for a corporation until you decide you want to subscribe. Run missions or mine to make your initial money, get some ships, and then train. Lots of stuff to learn--just stay away from lowsec until you know what you're doing.
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I never tried Eve. (it's a shame, the game is Icelandic like myself!!!). Here's one you can try without subscribing:
http://www.taleworlds.com/
Got me hooked.
Looks like a decent game. Can you tell me anything extra about it?
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I never tried Eve. (it's a shame, the game is Icelandic like myself!!!). Here's one you can try without subscribing:
http://www.taleworlds.com/
Got me hooked.
Mount and Blade is a pretty neat game. It has been around for years. The folks who created it have been financing it by selling Beta copies for quite awhile. The combat is a lot of fun, but the campaign gets a little boring. But they may have changed, been quite awhile since I played it. I'm sure a lot has changed.
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I'm downloading Mount & Blade now. Gonna give it a go and see how it is.
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My brother, Flayed1, plays Eve Online quite a bit.
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Here's a question for those of you who play Eve.... Is it the kind of game that I can just jump right into? Or should I spend a bit of time reading up on it before starting the two week trial?
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The tutorial AI agents will quickly provide u with the basics plusw some cash/ships/skill books. Make it a point to go thru the 3 initial tutorial agents, then u'll know enought to navigate ur way around.Then go to Sister something out of the Sister of Eve corporation in Arnon, she'll provide u with missions that can be made with what u have, a Frigate/Destroyer. By the time u are done with that, u'll havesome money in the bank to start what u want.
As frustrating as it may seem, spend your first 1.6 mil character points on "learning skills", it will make a load of difference in the long run, like 3 weeks to learn a skill level rather than 5 weeks.
Personaly I find EVE plenty borring, with the occasional satisfaction to ruin some's else day that meant u wrong.
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I play EVE and Aces High.. Those are the only two games I play these days.. xNOVAx in EVE if anyone's interested in saying hello in game..
-NOVA
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Here's a question for those of you who play Eve.... Is it the kind of game that I can just jump right into? Or should I spend a bit of time reading up on it before starting the two week trial?
I'd say spend some time reading up on it before you start your trial.. That way you know what you're getting into and can get started making money right away however you decide you'd have most fun.. I personally like shooting stuff, so I went the military route running missions etc when i first started, but there are people who like the mining/industrial or the trade/business career paths..
I have 2 characters.. My main character does fighting (PVP), the other makes all my money by trading materials and items (buy low sell high tactic).
If you have any questions when you're reading about stuff feel free to ask.. :)
-NOVA
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I'd say spend some time reading up on it before you start your trial.. That way you know what you're getting into and can get started making money right away however you decide you'd have most fun.. I personally like shooting stuff, so I went the military route running missions etc when i first started, but there are people who like the mining/industrial or the trade/business career paths..
I have 2 characters.. My main character does fighting (PVP), the other makes all my money by trading materials and items (buy low sell high tactic).
If you have any questions when you're reading about stuff feel free to ask.. :)
-NOVA
Thanks Nova... Let me ask you this... Is there a particular Race/Faction that is better suited for a new player who knows very little?
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Thanks Nova... Let me ask you this... Is there a particular Race/Faction that is better suited for a new player who knows very little?
Not really.. You can customize yourself to do whatever you want to do when you first create your character. If you're going the business or industrial route, I think most ships are pretty much the same so you dont have to worry too much about that, but if you're going the military route do your research on each race's ships and what they do and how they work during missions and within fleets (PVP).. That will save you from wanting to do something else if/when you get to that point. My advice though is stay away from heavy missle ships if you're doing PVP.. There are missle countermeasures that can keep you from doing any damage to someone, but there's nothing thats going to stop a bullet or laser.. :) Stealth Bombers however are the exception to that rule.. They do massive damage when they hit so those are really the only missle ships I fly.. :rock
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AMARR ftw(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii390/JAMM83/TODAY.jpg)
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Not really.. You can customize yourself to do whatever you want to do when you first create your character. If you're going the business or industrial route, I think most ships are pretty much the same so you dont have to worry too much about that, but if you're going the military route do your research on each race's ships and what they do and how they work during missions and within fleets (PVP).. That will save you from wanting to do something else if/when you get to that point. My advice though is stay away from heavy missle ships if you're doing PVP.. There are missle countermeasures that can keep you from doing any damage to someone, but there's nothing thats going to stop a bullet or laser.. :) Stealth Bombers however are the exception to that rule.. They do massive damage when they hit so those are really the only missle ships I fly.. :rock
I'm a Caldari player, and have a lot of missile skills. Missile use in PvP is one of the most hotly debated topics in the game, and I won't go into that. But, missiles are the supreme mission running weapon system (mission being against NPC enemies). So, if you're going to be a Caldari player with a combat focus, use the early missile skills you get for running missions, just don't marry them long-term. Once you get your feet under you and want to do some serious PvP, you can start training a lot of gun skills. My favorite solo PvP ship is a missile boat, but solo PvP is very niche. For fleet PvP (which can number hundreds of ships per side), guns are a better weapon. Caldari and Minmatar races have some very unique ships and capabilities, but they are very skill intensive, whereas Gallente and Amarr are a little more straightforward to train (at least IMO).
Good luck though. I really enjoy the game and hope you do as well.
Nova, what corp/alliance are you in? I'm in Paxton Industries/Paxton Federation myself.
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Nova, what corp/alliance are you in? I'm in Paxton Industries/Paxton Federation myself.
Corp - Hull Miners Union
Alliance - Gentleman's Club
xNOVAx in game.. Look me up! :)
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You can also fly other races ships anyway.
One of my characters flies Caldari and Minmatar, the other Amarr and Gallente. This way I can pretty much fly whatever I want in the game. One day I will train for capital ships, but I want everything maxed pretty much before I do it.
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Well, I took the plunge today... First character is Gallente, for better or worse. Haven't fiddled with it much, should have more time to look into it tomorrow.
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Well I rejoined EVE last month. So far its only a two man Corp. but Grumpy Old Guys (GOG), is in Caldari space. Working out of Funtanian.
I agree with the Run the Tutorial Missions. I didn't, I migrated from Gallente to Caldari space before I completed all the missions. So I had to learn some things the hard way. Ouch!
Don't jump into a Corp right away. Look around for a couple of weeks. Some Corps are as bad as the players. Will rip you off. I have seen as much as 100% Corp taxes. So for cash you get nothing.
If you make it to Caldari Space look up the Grumpy Old Guys. Yrogerg Nord, CEO
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Am I correct to assume that I should start a second character, if nothing else, just to get the training started? Does it matter if the second character is a different Race/Faction?
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Am I correct to assume that I should start a second character, if nothing else, just to get the training started? Does it matter if the second character is a different Race/Faction?
Yeah two characters are pretty standard, I used to have three (but couldn't justify keeping all of them). It does not matter what the other race is, you can always just fly him/her to where you are. In my corp of RL friends we have a mix of gallente, amarr, and caldari. Race does not mean much in this game. Any character can train any other ship types.
Gallente was a good choice, good for PvP and PvE. They are a very well rounded race IMO, strong ships in all classes.
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Well, I took the plunge today... First character is Gallente, for better or worse. Haven't fiddled with it much, should have more time to look into it tomorrow.
Cool dave! What's your name in game?
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Cool dave! What's your name in game?
Factorlan P :D
I've had a chance to run a few of the tutorial missions so far... Still figuring things out. So far so good though!
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Once you get your feet under you and want to do some serious PvP, you can start training a lot of gun skills. My favorite solo PvP ship is a missile boat, but solo PvP is very niche. For fleet PvP (which can number hundreds of ships per side), guns are a better weapon.
To expand on what Stoney is saying... missiles suck in large fleet PvP because of their travel time. So many ships and even the most heavily tanked up ride will pop almost immediately. You lock, shoot, and the guy is dead before it gets there. No kill mails, no glory for you! Guns hit pretty much instantly.
I've spent more time in 0.0 than empire, and most of my friends are goons. Fleet PVP became a lot more fun when I switched from Ravens and logistics to a sniper fitted Rokh.
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Factorlan P :D
I've had a chance to run a few of the tutorial missions so far... Still figuring things out. So far so good though!
Nice.. I'll add you to my buddy list.. If you have any questions feel free to ask when im online.. :) I have a few money making tips for ya that will help out quite a bit when you're first getting started..
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Nice.. I'll add you to my buddy list.. If you have any questions feel free to ask when im online.. :) I have a few money making tips for ya that will help out quite a bit when you're first getting started..
Much appreciated! And I'll take all the tips you want to throw my way. Thanks!
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I play as well. Have two characters. Bodhi83 and Sulora.
Send me a message and I'll help any other noobs out as well.
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It's a shame these games are P2P. I enjoyed playing Mount&Blade up till Level 7, and then it told me I needed to subscribe. :mad:
I'll only be paying for AH at this point in time, especially with school nearly here.
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my in game name is JAM83. bhodi83 is in my corp if any noobs :t need help i would love to help out any way i can
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if anyone is interested:
Name: Rant Calmante
Corp: Easter Corp
Alliance: Vanguard.
and hope you have fun Pfactor! :aok
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How are things going so far Dave?
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How are things going so far Dave?
Not too badly, I don't think. Still trying to get acclimated. I've been doing some mining to generate some extra ISK when I'm not doing the missions. I was wondering how I should best set up my combat Frigate for these early missions? (Done with all 30 career tutorial missions, on the Sister Alitura (sp?) Epic mission line right now. Thought I was doing ok, but finally lost a ship.
Any advice?
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Not too badly, I don't think. Still trying to get acclimated. I've been doing some mining to generate some extra ISK when I'm not doing the missions. I was wondering how I should best set up my combat Frigate for these early missions? (Done with all 30 career tutorial missions, on the Sister Alitura (sp?) Epic mission line right now. Thought I was doing ok, but finally lost a ship.
Any advice?
When i ran missions, i always liked to have range weapons fitted so i could stay as far away from the npc's as possible.. Personal preference i suppose, but I liked picking them off before they could touch me.. Get some rail guns on there or something.. Also, one thing you might want to train (after your learning skills of course) is salvaging.. You can make quite a bit of money by taking all the loot and salvaging the wrecks of the ships you kill. Have 2 ships.. One combat, and one to salvage/grab loot (faster ships with big cargo bays are best for this).. Makes things much easier. :)
-NOVA
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Hyperion is addicted to it.
Negative on that. Lol. I did away with that game during the last few days of my trial. To top that off, I finished my trial by going on an EPIC FAIL run by taking out my most expensive ship and PvPing some random enemies from another faction.
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As a Gallente mission runner, you want to maximize drone skills. In general, take skills to level 3 for competency (minimum level before using the skill) and level 4 for proficiency. For example, get your frigate skill to at least 3 before you run the more serious missions. Get your drone support skills up to level 3. Blasters are PvP weapons so direct any gunnery training towards rails like Nova said. Finally, train some navigation skills so you can use afterburners efficiently. Afterburners will allow you to "kite" enemies, which is a useful technique when at lower skill levels. Basically, kiting is running away from the rats and killing them at range while they chase you.
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Ingame: Viperius
Former Alliances:
Lotka Volterra
Huzzah Federation
Cult of War
3 years of 0.0 pvp experience and fleet command.
Give me a shout ingame if you need help or have some questions.
I got bored with the 0.0 endgame(aka capital online and pos spamming) and doing some solo stuff at the moment.
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PFactordave check evemail! <S>
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I'm 'Sir Nuke' in EVE, playing with TCF Alliance. Account is deactivated right now tho.