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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 1solowng on September 03, 2009, 09:49:53 PM
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How about a g.v carier plane that'll air drop g.v's in places were there is no spawn points....maybe about 2-3 gv's in whatever plane suitable for the task
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waiting on waystin....
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How about a g.v carier plane that'll air drop g.v's in places were there is no spawn points....maybe about 2-3 gv's in whatever plane suitable for the task
That's an awesome idea... Unfortunately, that didn't happen in WW2. The most they could drop on a glider was a jeep, half-loaded. Sorry buddy... :(
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waiting on waystin....
Or Kazaa, Sir JPEG Jr!
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How about a g.v carier plane that'll air drop g.v's in places were there is no spawn points....maybe about 2-3 gv's in whatever plane suitable for the task
zomg best idea evar!!!!
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Well I guess an Me 323 would be interesting in a huge sort of fireball way. And if we could get a small tank destroyer with it, they could be a good use of some of them bomber perks! Not sure if this combo actually saw any combat, but a fun idea none the less.
(http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/images13/79.jpg)
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Messerschmitt%20Gigant.htm (http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Messerschmitt%20Gigant.htm)
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Well I guess an Me 323 would be interesting in a huge sort of fireball way. And if we could get a small tank destroyer with it, they could be a good use of some of them bomber perks! Not sure if this combo actually saw any combat, but a fun idea none the less.
(http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/images13/79.jpg)
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Messerschmitt%20Gigant.htm (http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Messerschmitt%20Gigant.htm)
They definitely got shot down in combat I think there is gun camera footage of it what was on board? Who knows. A possible maybe at best.
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waiting on waystin....
I am honored that you waited for my arrival! :lol However I am intrigued by this 323 behemoth...
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Well I guess an Me 323 would be interesting in a huge sort of fireball way. And if we could get a small tank destroyer with it, they could be a good use of some of them bomber perks! Not sure if this combo actually saw any combat, but a fun idea none the less.
(http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/images13/79.jpg)
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Messerschmitt%20Gigant.htm (http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Messerschmitt%20Gigant.htm)
The Me 323 saw combat in the MTO. During one operation, 27 Me 323's were flying supplies to the Afrika Korps when they and their escorts of Bf 109s were jumped by P-40s and Spitfires. Out of the 27 Me 323's, 21 were shot down with only 3 Allied losses.
ack-ack
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Sounds like a Rook MOM mission......
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I just seen the ME-323 in action with a light tank an sdkz, and a artillery piece, light truck and a whole lot of boxes of ammo for all the gv's that's crazy kool :aok here's the link for you non believers :salute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpQ7G0TnyU
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I just seen the ME-323 in action with a light tank an sdkz, and a artillery piece and 30+ troops inside while in flight that's crazy cool!!!
here's the link off of youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpQ7G0TnyU
Like in real life, the Me 323 would be nothing more than a very large, soon to be dead target in AH unless there was overwhelming air superiority to ensure it was able to land and drop off supplies. Like I posted earlier, in one operation 21 of the 27 Me 323s were shot down before they were able to make it to their destination in North Africa.
ack-ack
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Like in real life, the Me 323 would be nothing more than a very large, soon to be dead target in AH unless there was overwhelming air superiority to ensure it was able to land and drop off supplies. Like I posted earlier, in one operation 21 of the 27 Me 323s were shot down before they were able to make it to their destination in North Africa.
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Of course there's no other way to fly it.
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Awww come on Ack-Ack, just because most of them wound up looking like this, doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to try! ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Me323D_wreck_TunisMay1943.jpg)
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Rook MOM mission......
you calling us rook's mommy mission maker's
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Awww come on Ack-Ack, just because most of them wound up looking like this, doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to try! ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Me323D_wreck_TunisMay1943.jpg)
hehe...I think the Me 323 was the only Luftwhiner plane to be destroyed out of operational service instead of being withdrawn.
ack-ack
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waiting on waystin....
Makin' popcorn and fillin' the cooler.
(http://www.beerutopia.com/wp-content/remotecooler.jpg)
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Why just not LVT? :lol
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Well Ack-Ack after a few drinks and thinking about the photo I posted, I think I discovered a new "Secret" Luftwaffe plot.
The Me 323 was not a transport plane, it was an attempt to infiltrate American schoolyards with..... flying German monkey bar's!
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Well Ack-Ack after a few drinks and thinking about the photo I posted, I think I discovered a new "Secret" Luftwaffe plot.
The Me 323 was not a transport plane, it was an attempt to infiltrate American schoolyards with..... flying German monkey bar's!
:rofl
Would be nice to have a giant german cargo plane though.
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How about a g.v carier plane that'll air drop g.v's in places were there is no spawn points....maybe about 2-3 gv's in whatever plane suitable for the task
In lu of the Me 323, we could get the hammilcar glider. It could carry jeeps, and the cruiser ram tank. But I vote in favor of the 323, as it would probably be better at delivering the gv's, AND it could deliver larger ones. I think a nice addition to the idea, would be to have it so the gv's have to pull up inside of the plane, where upon a button simmilar to the resupply button we have now, would appear, and, once pressed, would attache the gv to the plane. Once the plane landed and the pilot oppened the doors, a button saying "detach" would appear, allowing the GV to pull out. It would be use full for extracting GV's you or someone else dropped. We could have it so you earn a high ammount of perks.
Like I posted earlier, in one operation 21 of the 27 Me 323s were shot down before they were able to make it to their destination in North Africa.
How'd you know I shot some of those down :noid?
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I like lider's especially ones that pack some heat in their bellies :devil but i vote for the me323.
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it could probley add a little more diversity to attacking a field
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it could probley add a little more diversity to attacking a field
The only thing it would add is a very large target to shoot down for the defenders unless the attackers have total local air superiority over the base.
ack-ack
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it could probley add a little more diversity to attacking a field
Ack Ack: OH F**K!!!! We have no aircover. Aw damn, here comes some 323's. Well, we lost the base.
*the 323 has a turret in the belly that hits ack ack* System: Nemesis killed you.
Ack Ack: Aw, COME ON!!!!!
Nemisis: hehehe :devil
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Awww come on Ack-Ack, just because most of them wound up looking like this, doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to try! ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Me323D_wreck_TunisMay1943.jpg)
FAIL lol
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Ack Ack: OH F**K!!!! We have no aircover. Aw damn, here comes some 323's. Well, we lost the base.
*the 323 has a turret in the belly that hits ack ack* System: Nemesis killed you.
Ack Ack: Aw, COME ON!!!!!
Nemisis: hehehe :devil
I seriously doubt that this "story" would happen. Rather it would be more like, "Ack-Ack landed 3 kills in a P-38G of 323 Hunters"
Have you SEEN Ack-Ack fly, even when not in the P-38?
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I seriously doubt that this "story" would happen. Rather it would be more like, "Ack-Ack landed 3 kills in a P-38G of 323 Hunters"
Have you SEEN Ack-Ack fly, even when not in the P-38?
Well our team of uber awesome bomber crews knocked out the AC hangers. The GV's are swarming the bailed pilots, but Ack Ack is running supps in a jeep.
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Since when is the relative ease or difficulty of shooting something down a deciding factor in whether or not to put it in the game? Goons are easy to shoot down but there's still a place for them. Lots of planes are easy to shoot down but they're still in there. It's the variety of planes with different capabilities that makes it interesting...otherwise why have more than one type of plane at all?
I've always thought some type of gv-hauling aircraft would be a nice addition. It's historically realistic to add one, and more importantly it adds a tactical element that is currently lacking on some maps. Ndisles for example is an all-island map in which you can't attack most of the fields except by air. It would add something to gameplay to have the possibility of gv's landing on the island somewhere and rolling toward a field.
That being said, it would be difficult to add to the game because you have to transition the pilot from the cockpit of the plane to the driver's seat of the gv somehow after the plane lands. You'd have to figure out how to count the sortie (make it two sorties, one bomber and one gv?), you'd need some reason to land a jeep-sized vehicle somewhere which might mean adding light artillery, etc, etc. In other words I think this is a can of worms which has merit in theory but for practical purposes probably isn't going to happen any time soon.
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M22 Locust. :D
(http://www.robertsarmory.com/m22.jpg)
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Except that in online execution things seldom happen like they did in real life. The way NOE missions happen online these things could be very useful for covering a vbase while the hangars rebuild after a smash and grab NOE mission. Of course I think it should take very heavy bomber perks for the glider equipped with a tank but thats just my desire to burn up some bomber perks on things I would never fly anyway. It might be fun though.
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Since when is the relative ease or difficulty of shooting something down a deciding factor in whether or not to put it in the game? Goons are easy to shoot down but there's still a place for them. Lots of planes are easy to shoot down but they're still in there. It's the variety of planes with different capabilities that makes it interesting...otherwise why have more than one type of plane at all?
Was about to say "why do you care if it's easy to kill? Isn't that a good thing for the peope who don't fly it?"
I've always thought some type of gv-hauling aircraft would be a nice addition. It's historically realistic to add one, and more importantly it adds a tactical element that is currently lacking on some maps. Ndisles for example is an all-island map in which you can't attack most of the fields except by air. It would add something to gameplay to have the possibility of gv's landing on the island somewhere and rolling toward a field.
Been asking for one, but mostly in others threads. Agreed. The only problem I can see is you would need a clear spot to land. Like on the beach, and currently its kinda hard to tell where the water starts. So this probably won't happen untill we get a realistic eniornment with fields, farms, forests, lakes, meadows, etc.
That being said, it would be difficult to add to the game because you have to transition the pilot from the cockpit of the plane to the driver's seat of the gv somehow after the plane lands. You'd have to figure out how to count the sortie (make it two sorties, one bomber and one gv?), you'd need some reason to land a jeep-sized vehicle somewhere which might mean adding light artillery, etc, etc.
Well I've suggested having it so you land and pick up GV's. When you open doors, and when they roll in, a button apears "attaching" them to you. They are in your cargo bay, but to keep them from getting bored, i say we have it so they can move around the plane. This meaning they get to see what is happening instead of being stuck in a dark hole but can't gun or anything (there would be another position which would be their GV's). Another possibility would be to have it so when you start on the runway, the gv's up and then can pull up inside your cargo bay; this would eliminate the need of landing after take off.
And I belive they could carry tanks. Not anything uber heavy like the tigerII, but like a panzer or the MABY the tiger I.
I've suggested we add field guns and artty that you can carry in a goon, land, and then it sets it's self up, but only after like 5-10 minutes.
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Except that in online execution things seldom happen like they did in real life. The way NOE missions happen online these things could be very useful for covering a vbase while the hangars rebuild after a smash and grab NOE mission. Of course I think it should take very heavy bomber perks for the glider equipped with a tank but thats just my desire to burn up some bomber perks on things I would never fly anyway. It might be fun though.
Of course it would be perked heavily. But you are right, many things get used in ways they weren't intended, or histicaly used for. So It's still a valid argument, but you can't really cut off many planes with the argument "they weren't used like that" or "they almost never did that", because as long as it could have carried what you asked for then its a valid and realistic wish.
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Ive used 262's to take ord out NOE...
Ive also flown every aircraft in the game NOE and been successfully
why not i say...
big fat target? ya sure... but so is a goon or a d3a or a P40b
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Hell, atleast the P-40B has guns.....
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P-40B is deadly in the right hands.
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P-40B is deadly in the right hands.
It's deadly to me in MY hands :D
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Depends on who your talking to :devil...
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The logical addition would be the Ju52, slower than the goon and not much armament, but it would fill gaps in the scenario planesets.
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True, but it would pretty much be used for scenarios only.
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Those crazy marines landed and tookoff from the USS Forest Fire, but well after
the war :D
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x69f02_c130-takes-off-and-lands-on-a-carri_tech (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x69f02_c130-takes-off-and-lands-on-a-carri_tech)
There was also scuttlebutt that a B-29 made a practice approach on an Essex
class at the end of the war, but it was meant as a joke :rofl
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Kinda like how I make "firing runs" at my squadies flying bombers and say,
"bang bang, bang, bang bang bang. Ha Ace, I shot you" over the squad channel?
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Awww come on Ack-Ack, just because most of them wound up looking like this, doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to try! ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Me323D_wreck_TunisMay1943.jpg)
They even look better in colour.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/1edb78d67f.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/84db7883c3.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
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True, but it would pretty much be used for scenarios only.
no If the ju 52 were available I would fly it instead of the gooney bird anytime
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moin
im for the "gigant". imagine what one squad can do with this ability. you can start a gv fight anywere you want.
ok, we need a litel gamey change, we need the ability to transport Panzer IV, t34, and sherman. than it would be realy fun and it would made the game more intestenig.
cu chris3
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I belive this plane could carry the tiger as well, correct? We would be able to transport any GV in the game with the possible exception of PT boats (you might be ABLE to if you flew at 3ft, at just above stall alt, and let the boats fall into the water, but it will NEVER happen).
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Biggest panzer I've ever seen loaded into a Gigant <actually I believe it
was a 321 glider> was a Panzer 38T, rather smaller than even the Pz IV.
(http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/830/3rdReich_pz38_Panzer_38_t_moving_along_a_Russian_road_in_1942.jpg)
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Biggest panzer I've ever seen loaded into a Gigant <actually I believe it
was a 321 glider> was a Panzer 38T, rather smaller than even the Pz IV.
(http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/830/3rdReich_pz38_Panzer_38_t_moving_along_a_Russian_road_in_1942.jpg)
the 323 could carry bigger vehicles than that. I'm pretty sure it could carry a tiger, and like 99% sure it could carry at LEAST a panther.
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the 323 could carry bigger vehicles than that. I'm pretty sure it could carry a tiger, and like 99% sure it could carry at LEAST a panther.
If you had taken the time to read up at least just the basic stats of the 323, you would know it wasn't even remotely able to carry a Panther... ;)
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If you had taken the time to read up at least just the basic stats of the 323, you would know it wasn't even remotely able to carry a Panther... ;)
Damn... then I deserve a.....
(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0803/epic-fail-sports-fail-epic-forehead-weak-retard-demotivational-poster-1206344902.jpg)
Take that you dirty shade.... :noid
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According to Wiki, the payload was 10-12 tons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_323 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_323)
The Panther weighed in at almost 45 tons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank)
The Gigant isn't carrying a Panther unless it taxies to the dropzone :D
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According to Wiki, the payload was 10-12 tons.
The Panther weighed in at almost 45 tons.
The Gigant isn't carrying a Panther unless it taxies to the dropzone :D
How the hell did you discover my plan?
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That's an awesome idea... Unfortunately, that didn't happen in WW2. The most they could drop on a glider was a jeep, half-loaded. Sorry buddy... :(
Light Tank Mk.VII Tetrarches would be fun to have can be deployed from gliders
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How about a g.v carier plane that'll air drop g.v's in places were there is no spawn points....maybe about 2-3 gv's in whatever plane suitable for the task
WTF?????? TWO OR THREE? like earlier posted, the most they could manage was 1 light, half loaded vehicle....and that couldnt be dropped, the plane had to land, then unload the vehicle.....
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WTF?????? TWO OR THREE? like earlier posted, the most they could manage was 1 light, half loaded vehicle....and that couldnt be dropped, the plane had to land, then unload the vehicle.....
Then we need the hammilcar glider. It could carry the cruiser ram tank (I think). It was even specially designed to carry the specially designed airborne tank.