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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Lazerr on September 08, 2009, 01:43:30 AM
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The p38 dominates, in general.
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I guess for those few who know how to fly it. Myself not being one of them. :(
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If by dominate you mean look good in hundreds of pieces , then i would have to agree. ;)
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(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/venom2.jpg)
cute vert moves
(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/hillbilly.jpg)
pretty good pilot protection....
she'll make a great bomber
:D
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The p38 dominates, in general.
Won't argue with that. You kicked my butt a few times this morning. :salute
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Yup, there's a few moves only a 38 can pull off with style.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/Twin_Fires.jpg)
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I seen a guy in a B38 last nite, take out a VH, deack AND get his vulch on all by himself :rock. I did manage to steal a kill from him though :D :aok
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(http://guadalcanal.homestead.com/2008photos/1942PICS/crashed_P38.jpg)
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The p38 dominates, in general.
Do you have the stats on that? I assume if it did, the ENY value for the plane would be the lowest.
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I concur with you Lazer.
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(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/venom2.jpg)
cute vert moves
(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/hillbilly.jpg)
pretty good pilot protection....
she'll make a great bomber
:D
Quiet now BillyD or I'll have to get out the films :)
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KI84 is the best.........come on now its a K4 with F4U flaps........
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Quiet now BillyD or I'll have to get out the films :)
are they good fights? would like to see them :salute
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P-38 dose have its advantage, but if you really want to know what is the best. It all depends on a lot of factors.
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P-38 is sort of a US version of the Mosquito.
Except that it has shorter range, less firepower, can't carry AI radar or a 57mm cannon and no starboard seat for your b****. It is also not made of wood so it costs more and does not come with the "speaker on the ceiling" add-on. But other than that, they are exactly the same and they dominate in general.
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On second thought, P-38s do not have flame dumpers installed, so they are inferior until this upgrade is available to them.
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<snicker>
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38 all the way baby!!
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/beardawg.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/jephro2.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/beardawg2.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/jeager.jpg)
:aok
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I like seeing the 38 vulchtards and gangtards auger
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8805/graveyard.jpg)
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What an absolutlely horrible picture. :cry Breaks my heart to see these or any other aircraft just tossed aside. Its like watching 12:00 high and see the mighty B-17 wrecked in order to film a movie. It disgusts me to see the lack of vision of the importance of these historic birds.
A p-51 sold for $600 (roughly the price of a new car in todays standards)at wars end? I woulda been all over that.
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I like seeing the 38 vulchtards and gangtards auger
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8805/graveyard.jpg)
<<<<<<<< doesn't vulch, or gang. :aok
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(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/OReally.gif)
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(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/OReally.gif)
yep....really.
i can usually be found in a small pond of red guys, most often shedding my skin, and throwing it at them, in an attempt to break their plane as they shoot at me. :rofl :aok
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Oh yeah,
My bike is better than your bike....... :D
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The 38's structural integrity is second to none.
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/B4B/382radhits.png)
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/B4B/38skiddingintoindestructible.png)
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/B4B/ouch.png)
My 38 has advanced systems in place to auto-right itself after a successful landing
(http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/B4B/38rightsitself.png)
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
you got one IN the hangar!! WTG dude!!
i managed to bounce off the side of as hangar once...... :noid :D :rofl
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you got one IN the hangar!! WTG dude!!
i managed to bounce off the side of as hangar once...... :noid :D :rofl
:rofl
yeah, I came in a bit too fast and both engines had a radiator hit/seized up. I only had one chance so I put it into the hangar :)
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The p38 dominates, in general.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/bf109main.jpg)
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I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/bf109main.jpg)
look at that scrap metal :cool:
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I reject your reality and substitute my own.
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/bf109main.jpg)
Off to become more german lawn furniture. :aok
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Not that anyone wants my opinion... But... I am gonna have to go with the Yak 9T. Have you ever had a 37mm up your tail. It appears unpleasant from my perspective. lol
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Have you ever had a 37mm up your tail.
It appears we need a "don't ask, don't tell" policy here!
:rofl
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P-38 is sort of a US version of the Mosquito.
Except that it has shorter range, less firepower, can't carry AI radar or a 57mm cannon and no starboard seat for your b****. It is also not made of wood so it costs more and does not come with the "speaker on the ceiling" add-on. But other than that, they are exactly the same and they dominate in general.
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On second thought, P-38s do not have flame dumpers installed, so they are inferior until this upgrade is available to them.
cough fowlers cough contraprops cough
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I agree... I could see 10 planes in a furball and I will always go dominate the 38's :t
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Do you have the stats on that? I assume if it did, the ENY value for the plane would be the lowest.
ENY is not based on a plane's lethality.
ack-ack
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Quiet now BillyD or I'll have to get out the films :)
BillyD was just getting going in the K4 and I started running into him a lot. He had at that point a very recognizable first move and I got him a few times in the old 38G as I could anticipate where he'd be and get there first :)
I'm guessing he's a bit better now, but it would make some nice rebuttle screenshots :)
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ENY is not based on a plane's lethality.
ack-ack
Then what is the Planes ENY Value based on? I am not asking about the ENY when it concerns the number of Men in each country. I am asking about the ENY point value of each plane and what determines that. Also, the ENY value of vehicles. I know the T34/85 is more lethal than the T34/76. The 85 is more lethal than the 76.
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ENY is whacked, it means nothing.
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BillyD was just getting going in the K4 and I started running into him a lot. He had at that point a very recognizable first move and I got him a few times in the old 38G as I could anticipate where he'd be and get there first :)
I'm guessing he's a bit better now, but it would make some nice rebuttle screenshots :)
LOL Corky you guys know I hold y'all in the 80th in the highest regard ( except Venom ;), and aunt Silat ) I've been flying the G14 now alot more....seems to be a better match up to the B38 so if I find a lone B38G get ready to be Ho/Rammed. :P
That night was alot of fun...the screenie you gotta find is you, shuffler, and another 80th 38 rising up and just totally unloading on my hapless 109, I laughed for 10 minutes straight
...almost as funny as when I saw you on the other day taking off while I was landing...
"hey Billy bet I'll beat you back to base"
"yup...I beat ya back"
Good times, good times
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cough fowlers cough contraprops cough
And then they were sent to fight the Japs.
This Haiku sticker was on the wall of every P-38 cockpit:
"Fowlers and contraprops
The wise will not use
Stay fast"
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ENY is not based on a plane's lethality.
Saying what it is NOT based on is half an answer ACK.
I think I've read that it IS based on it's kill to death ratio in the MA. If pilots have a lot of success with it, it gets a low ENY. If anyone has the correct answer for ENY value assignments, please post. If I'm correct than ENY would be determined by which planes rule.
If I'm wrong, I offer my apologies in advance.
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Saying what it is NOT based on is half an answer ACK.
I think I've read that it IS based on it's kill to death ratio in the MA. If pilots have a lot of success with it, it gets a low ENY. If anyone has the correct answer for ENY value assignments, please post. If I'm correct than ENY would be determined by which planes rule.
If I'm wrong, I offer my apologies in advance.
Right or wrong..... I accept your apology :D
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And then they were sent to fight the Japs.
This Haiku sticker was on the wall of every P-38 cockpit:
"Fowlers and contraprops
The wise will not use
Stay fast"
:lol
Vinkman, ENY is roughly lethality. It's not k/d.. It's a pretty good (meaning reliable) ballpark figure made for the perk points and country balancing system. So lethality isnt perfectly accurate but that's close to it.
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And then they were sent to fight the Japs.
This Haiku sticker was on the wall of every P-38 cockpit:
"Fowlers and contraprops
The wise will not use
Stay fast"
:x
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Then what is the Planes ENY Value based on? I am not asking about the ENY when it concerns the number of Men in each country. I am asking about the ENY point value of each plane and what determines that. Also, the ENY value of vehicles. I know the T34/85 is more lethal than the T34/76. The 85 is more lethal than the 76.
The less Bases you capture, the less the ENY is.
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LOL Corky you guys know I hold y'all in the 80th in the highest regard ( except Venom ;), and aunt Silat ) I've been flying the G14 now alot more....seems to be a better match up to the B38 so if I find a lone B38G get ready to be Ho/Rammed. :P
That night was alot of fun...the screenie you gotta find is you, shuffler, and another 80th 38 rising up and just totally unloading on my hapless 109, I laughed for 10 minutes straight
...almost as funny as when I saw you on the other day taking off while I was landing...
"hey Billy bet I'll beat you back to base"
"yup...I beat ya back"
Good times, good times
LIES!
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:lol
Vinkman, ENY is roughly lethality. It's not k/d.. It's a pretty good (meaning reliable) ballpark figure made for the perk points and country balancing system. So lethality isnt perfectly accurate but that's close to it.
I guess it depends on how we wish to define "lethality". To me, I define "lethality" as a plane's killing power and not combat effectiveness. For example, the P-38G has the same lethality as the P-38J (carries the same gun and ordnance package) but has a lower ENY value than the J. However, the G is not as combat effective as the J because of the lack of WEP and shorter range.
ack-ack
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38s r the seksie
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I guess it depends on how we wish to define "lethality". To me, I define "lethality" as a plane's killing power and not combat effectiveness.
It is based on the lethality of the plane to the game. If it kills the game, the eny is lower.
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It is based on the lethality of the plane to the game. If it kills the game, the eny is lower.
Then explain how a plane like the P-38G which is just as lethal as the P-38J (same gun and ordnance package) has a higher ENY value? The only difference is the combat effectiveness between the two for the stated reasons I posted earlier. The G has no WEP and shorter fuel capacity and range which reduces its combat effectiveness compared to the J but still retains the same lethality level.
ack-ack
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It's like you said, depends on what's meant by lethality. The G's lethality is lesser than the J's because its gun package is multiplied by a smaller amount of mobility. It's the whole package that counts.
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(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1517/aaao.jpg) (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/aaao.jpg/)
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It's like you said, depends on what's meant by lethality. The G's lethality is lesser than the J's because its gun package is multiplied by a smaller amount of mobility. It's the whole package that counts.
The gun package is the same, 4x .50s and 20 mm on the G has the same lethality levels as the J. The 6x bazooka rockets and 2x 1,000 pound bombs has the same lethality as the J's ordnance package. Lethality wise, there is no difference, the only difference is combat effectiveness which is hampered by the lack of WEP and short range of the G. As for killing power, it's exactly the same as the J.
If you look up how the ENY system works, it's states its based on combat effectiveness and not lethality.
ack-ack
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I have no idea... I find them all less effective when i am in any of them than when yall are.
Could this be a grass is greener point?
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AKAK if a general looks down on his battle plans, the lethality of an element will vary in any given situation. A squad of pyros may be more lethal than a giant railway gun. Put head to head. the pyros will kill the railway gun everytime. In AH the given situation varies relatively little: almost everything happens in A2A. So the general looking down on his AH battle plans can say that a B25H isn't as lethal in A2A as typically found in the MA as you might think looking only at its guns.
So no, ENY isn't firepower.. ENY is the whole package, and the whole package's lethality is the product of package's firepower and mobility. A B25H in MA A2A isn't particularily lethal because its ability to kill is very handicapped by its lack of mobility -- to make the guns' lethality useful. The american bald eagle isn't lethal to mosquitoes. Semantics like you said :)
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photochopper.. that is definately a zeke flame!
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Corky doesn't fly a white nose 38 either...or else it would be accurate
:noid
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Corky doesn't fly a white nose 38 either...or else it would be accurate
:noid
Green man... they gotta be green.
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So no, ENY isn't firepower.. ENY is the whole package, and the whole package's lethality is the product of package's firepower and mobility. A B25H in MA A2A isn't particularily lethal because its ability to kill is very handicapped by its lack of mobility -- to make the guns' lethality useful. The american bald eagle isn't lethal to mosquitoes. Semantics like you said :)
So what your saying Moot, is that the AH team adds up some kind of point value that combines Speed, range, firepower, manueverability, etc and that determines ENY {plane to plane}, But compiled MA data such as K/D etc, might support or contradict the AH point system, but is not used to calculate it.
I agree with ACK that 'effectiveness' sounds like it should be results based, and NOT spec-sheet based.
Which brings us to whether the data from arena's supports the ENY model.
Can anyone from HTC set the record straight?
My appologies for not knowing who here works for HTC. ;)
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It'll say Admin under their name.
There's been a lot of debate over ENY values, and over how they're determined..
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,257115.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,193629.0.html
Search for eny + some key word like "determined".
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I thought we decided this long ago and put the proper plane on the home page "A HOG" :rock :lol
:salute
BigRat
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I thought we decided this long ago and put the proper plane on the home page "A HOG" :rock :lol
:salute
BigRat
no climb..... cant be the best :devil
I thought eny was based on when the aircraft entered the war and how many were made plus something going with the "Lethality" of the plane in the MA :salute
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There is no more lethal 38 then the 38G. Sucker kills tanks in ground combat!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/peekaboo.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DeadPanzer.jpg)
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no climb..... cant be the best :devil
I thought eny was based on when the aircraft entered the war and how many were made plus something going with the "Lethality" of the plane in the MA :salute
I think 'ENY' is a term from statistics in defining/deriving the properties of a density matrix or in the case of AH the population results of aircraft usage versus arena success or failure... but thats just a theory on my part. :D
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So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?
Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html
Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html
Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw. :O
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/P-38-2.jpg)
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So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?
Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html
Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html
Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw. :O
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/P-38-2.jpg)
Thats crap everyone knows that whoever wins the war gets to put their own twist on it, what you didnt know it that on that same flight against Yamamoto 2 KI84s were defending the buffs and both got ganged by turdy8 dweebs :D
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So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?
Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html
Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html
Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw. :O
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/P-38-2.jpg)
Yup Yamamoto said... ooOOooo wook candid camewa
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Thats crap everyone knows that whoever wins the war gets to put their own twist on it, what you didnt know it that on that same flight against Yamamoto 2 KI84s were defending the buffs and both got ganged by turdy8 dweebs :D
Actually the escorts were six Zeros and not Ki-84s.
ack-ack
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Actually the escorts were six Zeros and not Ki-84s.
The ENY limit kicked in?
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The ENY limit kicked in?
heh
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So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?
Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html
Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html
Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw. :O
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/P-38-2.jpg)
Great Photo!! CVA
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So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?
Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html
Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html
Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw. :O
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/P-38-2.jpg)
The last thing he saw was a P38G not a J :)
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The 38G is by far the SEXIEST warbird. BUt...looks don't kill :t
CHICKS DIG GULLWINGS
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TO PHOTO-RECON JOE
By Tom McGuire
Of all the Air Force pilots that I most deeply admire,
I give my top-notch vote to Photo-Recon Joe
Who goes it alone, unarmed, and braves the enemy's fire
By taking crucial photos which spell doom to the Axis foe.
Ahead of his Lightning's sound, his F-5 zips in at tree-top level;
Too late they hear him coming, now he's already gone past
A flashing form, a blast of wind, the Fork-Tail Devil,
His photos taken, speeds home, no higher than a mast.
On lists of fighter aces, his name is never placed,
And sadly, he's soon forgotten after the war has ended,
But war historians know that priceless F-5 photos based
The Normandy invasion so air, sea, and land attacks all blended.
"Unescorted, unarmed, and unafraid" Joe wings his gutsy way
Into the lethal Axis Reich, where death waits in that murky air.
But he presses on, he shoots his films, and dearly earns his pay
By these "dicing," flack-filled missions that only he would dare.
So now I raise a grateful toast to Photo-Recon Joe,
And, Joe, I also bow to you-and believe me, I bow low.
AN ODE TO THE AXIS FROM LOCKHEED WORKERS
(Author unknown. Wichita Beacon, circa 1940s)
When you hear a whistle in the sky
And see those twin tails streaking by,
You know that you have one less chance
Of ever making an advance.
When you started this war in thirty-nine,
There was no P-38 assembly line.
When you bombed Pearl Harbor in forty-one
That assembly had just begun.
When that line really began to move
You knew that we were in the groove.
When they first hit Africa in forty-two,
You began to think that you were through.
Now we are turning them out faster and faster
The sooner to bring you disaster.
Every one that leaves the assembly line
Helps to shorten your allotted time.
We use them for the camera ship
Because their speed gives you the slip,
And when the photographs they take,
Our bombers follow in their wake.
They escort bombers far and wide,
And on every mission tan your hide.
From the rooftops to the stratosphere,
Of all your planes they are the peer.
The Zero, it was sure well named,
For when the Lightnings' guns are aimed,
The pilot gives them one quick burst,
There's nothing there, the Zeros cursed.
Over in Europe it's just the same,
Focke-Wulfs and Messerschmitts are fair game.
Our pilots chase them from the sky
And make of Goebbels' boasts a lie.
For every time their five guns roar,
The Axis rats die by the score.
Fork'tailed terrors of the air,
They make our enemies despair.
(http://p38assn.org/images/mary-poem.jpg)
Hades Squadron
By Harry Brown
The world seemed covered with dripping mist
With walls of dismal gray.
Even the plane seemed to resist
When pulled from the hangar that day.
But everything was soon on board
And my walk-around begun.
Then I fired it up and taxied toward
My rendezvous with fun.
The mags were checked, prop in low pitch
My full run-up was done.
Controls were free-the mixture rich.
I began my take-off run.
I lifted the nose and became airborne
Into the overcast.
When that eerie mist was suddenly torn
And I found myself in the past.
And I was flying a P-38
Stacked in an echelon right.
Hades Squadron was tempting fate
And looking for a fight.
We were at angels twenty and my Blue Flight
Was lined-up covering the rear.
So I knew that things would be alright
And I had no sense of fear.
I saw some faces I hadn't seen
For forty years or so.
Including some that departed this scene
A long, long time ago.
There was old Nick to lead the way
And then Houseworth appeared.
Then Hedrick and Allen and Wenige
With his blonde mustache and red beard.
And then Kirby, Willie Haning and Johnny Hood
Each man a real hero
Who fought with all the strength he could
Against a vicious foe.
Those wondrous warriors that I knew
Like Harris and Tom McGuire
Champlin and Monk-Czarnecki too
Verle Jeff and Gronemeyer.
And those who lead my element
Each one a friend of mine
Red Herman and Mankin and Francis Lent
And Lewis and Pappy Cline.
But the mist soon began to thin
And my friends to fade away
And I found out that I had been
But an instant along the way.
And then I broke completely clear.
In the brilliance of the dawn
All those scenes of yesteryear
And all my friends were gone.
And so I felt a moment's pain
When returned to reality.
And I hoped I'd see them all again
And that they'd fly with me.
For the bonds of friendship that were wrought
On an anvil of adversity
Were forged forever as we fought
In the skies so valiantly.
Hark! Do you hear it? The thundering roar
of engines in the sky?
Someday I want forevermore
To be where those brave men fly.
WE ALSO LOVED THE LADY
by Fred L. Montgomery, S/Sgt-Crew Chief
Those of us who filled her ever-thirsty tanks with ""Fightin' Blue,"
Who cleaned and oiled her arsenal and hung her deadly bombs,
Who kept her ""ears" and ""voice" always loud and clear,
Who patched the combat wounds in her sleek skin.
Who checked and tuned her after every flight,
Who guarded her through torrid desert days and bitter, frigid nights,
Who pulled her preflight before each dawn to make sure that she was fit
To take you into combat and bring you safely home again.
Who strapped you into cockpit nest and squeezed your shoulder for good luck,
And who waited through the endless hours for the thrill of seeing
You and our Lightning lady do the Victory Roll one more time!
Sure, there were times when you took her-and us-for granted,
But we understood.
In fact, we were proud to think that you trusted us both with your life.
Believe me, we were with you every second, monitoring her heartbeat,
The steady scream of her superchargers, the instant response of her controls.
And when you brought her back to us, weary and sometimes wounded,
We gladly worked into the night to heal and make her fit to thunder
Once again into tomorrow's dawn with you.
These things we did because we, too, loved and were proud to share with you
Our incomparable Lady Lightning!
ack-ack
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is it just me or is that 38 missing its 20mm and has a fifth .50 in its place...
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is it just me or is that 38 missing its 20mm and has a fifth .50 in its place...
Fake gun barrels. Not the real deal.
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Fake gun barrels. Not the real deal.
here is closer photo, I think of same plane I took last year in Chino, I was thinkin the same thing when I saw it. but as 50's are ~12.7mm i wondered if I could detect 7mm of diameter with my eye from 15 feet away.. maybe they're all wrong, but there is a bigger hole in ONE of them. :)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6111/dsc00675l.jpg) (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/dsc00675l.jpg/)
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The 38G is by far the SEXIEST warbird.
Shame it doesn't come in black. :(
Oh hang on maybe it does. :O
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3910d6e0e1.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/496fe337dd.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5e9878ec1c.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
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:uhoh
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Actually the escorts were six Zeros and not Ki-84s.
ack-ack
I was joking, but nice info never knew :salute
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A good 38 is a dead 38 :aok
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A good 38 is a dead 38 :aok
blasphemy. :furious
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The p38 dominates, in general.
God, using this .jpg never gets old!
(http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/l/lol_cat-12926.jpg)
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God, using this .jpg never gets old!
(http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/l/lol_cat-12926.jpg)
I hate Kat PeePle :rofl
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/bayoubeach/dead_cat.jpg)