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[JunkyII]

I thought we decided this long ago and put the proper plane on the home page "A HOG"

 
BigRat

no climb..... cant be the best

I thought eny was based on when the aircraft entered the war and how many were made plus something going with the "Lethality" of the plane in the MA

[Guppy35]

There is no more lethal 38 then the 38G.  Sucker kills tanks in ground combat!

[Chalenge]

no climb..... cant be the best

I thought eny was based on when the aircraft entered the war and how many were made plus something going with the "Lethality" of the plane in the MA

I think 'ENY' is a term from statistics in defining/deriving the properties of a density matrix or in the case of AH the population results of aircraft usage versus arena success or failure... but thats just a theory on my part. 

[Rich46yo]

So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?

Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html

Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html

Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw.

[JunkyII]

So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?

Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html

Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html

Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw.
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Thats crap everyone knows that whoever wins the war gets to put their own twist on it, what you didnt know it that on that same flight against Yamamoto 2 KI84s were defending the buffs and both got ganged by turdy8 dweebs

[Shuffler]

So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?

Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html

Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html

Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw.
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Yup Yamamoto said... ooOOooo wook candid camewa

[Ack-Ack]

Thats crap everyone knows that whoever wins the war gets to put their own twist on it, what you didnt know it that on that same flight against Yamamoto 2 KI84s were defending the buffs and both got ganged by turdy8 dweebs

Actually the escorts were six Zeros and not Ki-84s.


ack-ack

[bozon]

Actually the escorts were six Zeros and not Ki-84s.

The ENY limit kicked in?

[Shuffler]

The ENY limit kicked in?

heh

[CVA]

So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?

Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html

Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html

Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw.
(Image removed from quote.)

Great Photo!!   CVA

[Guppy35]

So this is another unofficial P-38 thread right?

Aww no. Twist my arm. http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_mitchell.html

Yknow the only thing better then an unofficial P-38 thread is a P-38 true story, like above. Or, even better then that, is a whole list of P-38 tales. http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html

Hey, heres the last thing Isoroku Yamamoto ever saw.
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The last thing he saw was a P38G not a J

[Banshee7]

The 38G is by far the SEXIEST warbird.  BUt...looks don't kill 

CHICKS DIG GULLWINGS

[Ack-Ack]

TO PHOTO-RECON JOE
By Tom McGuire

Of all the Air Force pilots that I most deeply admire,
I give my top-notch vote to Photo-Recon Joe
Who goes it alone, unarmed, and braves the enemy's fire
By taking crucial photos which spell doom to the Axis foe.

Ahead of his Lightning's sound, his F-5 zips in at tree-top level;
Too late they hear him coming, now he's already gone past
A flashing form, a blast of wind, the Fork-Tail Devil,
His photos taken, speeds home, no higher than a mast.

On lists of fighter aces, his name is never placed,
And sadly, he's soon forgotten after the war has ended,
But war historians know that priceless F-5 photos based
The Normandy invasion so air, sea, and land attacks all blended.

"Unescorted, unarmed, and unafraid" Joe wings his gutsy way
Into the lethal Axis Reich, where death waits in that murky air.
But he presses on, he shoots his films, and dearly earns his pay
By these "dicing," flack-filled missions that only he would dare.

So now I raise a grateful toast to Photo-Recon Joe,
And, Joe, I also bow to you-and believe me, I bow low.

AN ODE TO THE AXIS FROM LOCKHEED WORKERS
(Author unknown. Wichita Beacon, circa 1940s)

When you hear a whistle in the sky
And see those twin tails streaking by,
You know that you have one less chance
Of ever making an advance.

When you started this war in thirty-nine,
There was no P-38 assembly line.
When you bombed Pearl Harbor in forty-one
That assembly had just begun.

When that line really began to move
You knew that we were in the groove.
When they first hit Africa in forty-two,
You began to think that you were through.

Now we are turning them out faster and faster
The sooner to bring you disaster.
Every one that leaves the assembly line
Helps to shorten your allotted time.

We use them for the camera ship
Because their speed gives you the slip,
And when the photographs they take,
Our bombers follow in their wake.

They escort bombers far and wide,
And on every mission tan your hide.
From the rooftops to the stratosphere,
Of all your planes they are the peer.

The Zero, it was sure well named,
For when the Lightnings' guns are aimed,
The pilot gives them one quick burst,
There's nothing there, the Zeros cursed.

Over in Europe it's just the same,
Focke-Wulfs and Messerschmitts are fair game.
Our pilots chase them from the sky
And make of Goebbels' boasts a lie.

For every time their five guns roar,
The Axis rats die by the score.
Fork'tailed terrors of the air,
They make our enemies despair.

Hades Squadron
By Harry Brown

The world seemed covered with dripping mist
With walls of dismal gray.
Even the plane seemed to resist
When pulled from the hangar that day.

But everything was soon on board
And my walk-around begun.
Then I fired it up and taxied toward
My rendezvous with fun.

The mags were checked, prop in low pitch
My full run-up was done.
Controls were free-the mixture rich.
I began my take-off run.

I lifted the nose and became airborne
Into the overcast.
When that eerie mist was suddenly torn
And I found myself in the past.

And I was flying a P-38
Stacked in an echelon right.
Hades Squadron was tempting fate
And looking for a fight.

We were at angels twenty and my Blue Flight
Was lined-up covering the rear.
So I knew that things would be alright
And I had no sense of fear.

I saw some faces I hadn't seen
For forty years or so.
Including some that departed this scene
A long, long time ago.

There was old Nick to lead the way
And then Houseworth appeared.
Then Hedrick and Allen and Wenige
With his blonde mustache and red beard.

And then Kirby, Willie Haning and Johnny Hood
Each man a real hero
Who fought with all the strength he could
Against a vicious foe.

Those wondrous warriors that I knew
Like Harris and Tom McGuire
Champlin and Monk-Czarnecki too
Verle Jeff and Gronemeyer.

And those who lead my element
Each one a friend of mine
Red Herman and Mankin and Francis Lent
And Lewis and Pappy Cline.

But the mist soon began to thin
And my friends to fade away
And I found out that I had been
But an instant along the way.

And then I broke completely clear.
In the brilliance of the dawn
All those scenes of yesteryear
And all my friends were gone.

And so I felt a moment's pain
When returned to reality.
And I hoped I'd see them all again
And that they'd fly with me.

For the bonds of friendship that were wrought
On an anvil of adversity
Were forged forever as we fought
In the skies so valiantly.

Hark! Do you hear it? The thundering roar
of engines in the sky?
Someday I want forevermore
To be where those brave men fly.

WE ALSO LOVED THE LADY
by Fred L. Montgomery, S/Sgt-Crew Chief

Those of us who filled her ever-thirsty tanks with ""Fightin' Blue,"
Who cleaned and oiled her arsenal and hung her deadly bombs,
Who kept her ""ears" and ""voice" always loud and clear,
Who patched the combat wounds in her sleek skin.

Who checked and tuned her after every flight,
Who guarded her through torrid desert days and bitter, frigid nights,
Who pulled her preflight before each dawn to make sure that she was fit
To take you into combat and bring you safely home again.

Who strapped you into cockpit nest and squeezed your shoulder for good luck,
And who waited through the endless hours for the thrill of seeing
You and our Lightning lady do the Victory Roll one more time!

Sure, there were times when you took her-and us-for granted,
But we understood.
In fact, we were proud to think that you trusted us both with your life.

Believe me, we were with you every second, monitoring her heartbeat,
The steady scream of her superchargers, the instant response of her controls.

And when you brought her back to us, weary and sometimes wounded,
We gladly worked into the night to heal and make her fit to thunder
Once again into tomorrow's dawn with you.

These things we did because we, too, loved and were proud to share with you
Our incomparable Lady Lightning!

ack-ack

[Becinhu]

is it just me or is that 38 missing its 20mm and has a fifth .50 in its place...

[Guppy35]

is it just me or is that 38 missing its 20mm and has a fifth .50 in its place...

Fake gun barrels. Not the real deal.