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Title: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 06:14:47 AM
ok lets go,

Yes, i am an high alt monkey, a cherry picker, there no better feeling of diving in with 480mph, 1 second blazing guns, BOOM, zoom out waiting for the next one  :x

High alt Monkeys, your move now!

P.S. mud crawlers and tank driver, please stay out of this thread, we need psycho therapy silence here  :lol

Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 15, 2009, 06:16:06 AM
<<-- :devil
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Kazaa on September 15, 2009, 06:17:20 AM
Intresting
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: PanosGR on September 15, 2009, 06:26:55 AM
i don't thINk so, though i like his style  :)
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 06:54:08 AM
i don't thINk so, though i like his style  :)

hiho Panos,

yes, i remember you very well from last evening, the B&Z show at 77 was a blast, wasn't it?
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: JunkyII on September 15, 2009, 06:57:03 AM
I know people say the defintion of "Picker" hass changed alot lately but I know the bad version to be someone who will kill a guy who is already getting ganged but flys in at 450 from out of nowhere to steal kill from guys actually doing the work low with the enemy. BNZ is a valid tactic especially in some of the situations when Joker Jokers are hording over a field :D
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: boomerlu on September 15, 2009, 06:59:50 AM
Yes, i am a cherry picker, there no better feeling of diving in with 480mph, 1 second blazing guns, BOOM, zoom out waiting for the next one  :x
Doesn't surprise me, after all, what are effective wingman tactics but organized picking? ;)

As for me, I fly the D9. Nuff said. :devil
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: boomerlu on September 15, 2009, 07:04:09 AM
I know people say the defintion of "Picker" hass changed alot lately but I know the bad version to be someone who will kill a guy who is already getting ganged but flys in at 450 from out of nowhere to steal kill from guys actually doing the work low with the enemy.
As for diving in to kill someone who is already being ganged, I look at it from a team perspective. I would probably be better serving my team staying high and out of the fight and covering my friends from enemy pickers than diving in trying to get the kill.

So no, I generally don't do what you've mentioned, Junky.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: 5PointOh on September 15, 2009, 07:06:27 AM
I am not a picker, I prefer "vertical engagement pilot"! :D
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: JunkyII on September 15, 2009, 07:07:34 AM
As for diving in to kill someone who is already being ganged, I look at it from a team perspective. I would probably be better serving my team staying high and out of the fight and covering my friends from enemy pickers than diving in trying to get the kill.

So no, I generally don't do what you've mentioned, Junky.
Thats what I try to tell people who do it, glad to see some people still have brains in this game :D :salute
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 07:08:35 AM
Doesn't surprise me, after all, what are effective wingman tactics but organized picking? ;)

As for me, I fly the D9. Nuff said. :devil

yes Sir,

we prefer the grouped B&Z show, having also some 190D9 lovers aboard
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 07:24:28 AM
I know people say the defintion of "Picker" hass changed alot lately but I know the bad version to be someone who will kill a guy who is already getting ganged but flys in at 450 from out of nowhere to steal kill from guys actually doing the work low with the enemy. BNZ is a valid tactic especially in some of the situations when Joker Jokers are hording over a field :D

noooo thats not my intention,

coming down from 22k, killing the climber who went just through the clouds at 16k is the biggest fun. doing so, i was l alot of times called cherry picker , alt monkey and much more, i was closed to get depressive :D

i dont shot at smokers or stuff
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 07:28:10 AM
I am not a picker, I prefer "vertical engagement pilot"! :D

well said, youre welcome
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Ghosth on September 15, 2009, 07:37:22 AM
All depends on your point of view.

What is smart flying and good wingman tactics from one side becomes cherry picking and hording from the other.

Long & the short of it is everyone dies. If you died you made a mistake, someplace. Look for it, accept it, learn from it, and move on.

Planes are free, grab a new one and try again.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 07:45:47 AM
All depends on your point of view.

What is smart flying and good wingman tactics from one side becomes cherry picking and hording from the other.

....

so true!

 :salute
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Wreked on September 15, 2009, 08:02:06 AM
Hi...I'm wreked ...I cherry pick...

Now do we stand in a small circle - rub bellies with each other  -  sing Koom-by-ya??

...and how long do ya think I have to come to these meetings eh?
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 08:09:10 AM
Hi...I'm wreked ...I cherry pick...

Now do we stand in a small circle - rub bellies with each other  -  sing Koom-by-ya??

...and how long do ya think I have to come to these meetings eh?

hi,

welcome! i guess we can talk about it, so let your pain fall off, feel free to stay a couple, you know, once addicted to it, it may take ..... long.
maybe its like at Hotel California, you can checkout, but can never leave.

but, dont be in a desperate state, youre not alone  :D
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 08:26:42 AM
...

Now do we stand in a small circle - rub bellies with each other  -  sing Koom-by-ya??


now finaly, the wake up call

born after 1st jan 1960:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnT17w9KmcE&feature=PlayList&p=BB20ED15F99E9A34&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=7

if you born before 1960 go here along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: CAP1 on September 15, 2009, 08:36:32 AM
ok lets go,

Yes, i am an high alt monkey, a cherry picker, there no better feeling of diving in with 480mph, 1 second blazing guns,  :roflBOOM, zoom out waiting for the next one  :x

High alt Monkeys, your move now!

P.S. mud crawlers and tank driver, please stay out of this thread, we need psycho therapy silence here  :lol



i dove into a fight doing about 480 once or twice. unfortunately, the p38j compresses at around 425.

i made a really big cartoon hole in the cartoon ground.  :noid
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 08:41:36 AM
i dove into a fight doing about 480 once or twice. unfortunately, the p38j compresses at around 425.

i made a really big cartoon hole in the cartoon ground.  :noid

ok, so my idea is, go along this shining path my brother, you will get a helping hand here, take a 38L and use the dive brakes

let the flashing guns give you a bit satisfaction
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: MjTalon on September 15, 2009, 09:14:41 AM
I am not a picker, I prefer "vertical engagement pilot"! :D

ah HA! So that's what it is.  :D
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: CAP1 on September 15, 2009, 09:25:24 AM
ok, so my idea is, go along this shining path my brother, you will get a helping hand here, take a 38L and use the dive brakes

let the flashing guns give you a bit satisfaction

i can't. i fly mw, and the L isn't available there.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Lusche on September 15, 2009, 09:27:51 AM
ok, so my idea is, go along this shining path my brother, you will get a helping hand here, take a 38L and use the dive brakes

He couldn't, even if he would fly inlate war. The L has no dive brakes.   ;)
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 09:33:14 AM
He couldn't, even if he would fly inlate war. The L has no dive brakes.   ;)

you not 'in' lusche

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,243320.msg2971885.html#msg2971885
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Masherbrum on September 15, 2009, 09:34:07 AM
ok, so my idea is, go along this shining path my brother, you will get a helping hand here, take a 38L and use the dive brakes

let the flashing guns give you a bit satisfaction

We would if they had em, but they don't have em.    :huh
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Slate on September 15, 2009, 09:38:36 AM
 Here comes that 51 again (Yawn). A quick maneuver and he's on his way to find a less aware pilot. A good Check 6 and SA.... priceless.

  I didn't know there was air above 10k until the MOM missions!  :D  
  I don't have the patience for the climb. But enjoy the Fruits of your Labor.

  (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg132/wirebender777/Cherry-Picker640.jpg)
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Lusche on September 15, 2009, 09:38:58 AM
you not 'in' lusche

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,243320.msg2971885.html#msg2971885

Ever flown a 38L in AH?  The "brakes" do not slow you down in any way.

From the very same thread:

the dive recovery flaps generate no drag whatsoever. I know that sounds very odd, but I have tested it with CT on and with CT off; trimmed for hands off flight. Trimmed level at 288 mph... Speed constant. Dump the recovery flaps and there is no speed change, even after several minutes. What they do is cause induced drag by pitching the nose up. However, the flap "boards" themselves don't seem to have any drag associated with them.

My regards,

Widewing

 
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Shuffler on September 15, 2009, 09:41:07 AM
Ever flown a 38L in AH?  The "brakes" do not slow you down in any way.

From the very same thread:


They do however give the noobs something to do on the way in.  :D
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Lusche on September 15, 2009, 09:44:15 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
Ever flown a 38L in AH?  The "brakes" do not slow you down in any way.

From the very same thread:


excuse me, i was wrong, well i am not a SAPP member, didnt spend too much time in an 38, maybe i must change that  :cool:
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: CAP1 on September 15, 2009, 10:07:41 AM
hhmm....dive brakes............


me thinks it might be time to try picking in a ju88

 :rofl :noid :rofl
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2009, 10:48:17 AM
noooo thats not my intention,

coming down from 22k, killing the climber who went just through the clouds at 16k is the biggest fun. doing so, i was l alot of times called cherry picker , alt monkey and much more, i was closed to get depressive :D

i dont shot at smokers or stuff

Well sounds like you are an alt monkey. Killing someone who is climbing out and is not engaged is not  picking, however.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: LLogann on September 15, 2009, 10:54:36 AM
Pickers, Vulchers, Ho'ers, Tards, Noobs, Dweebs, whatever you call everything..............

Here is the truth.  Every last one of us complain when it happens to us, yet we all have done it. 

Why can't we just accept the fact that these things happen in our AH world.  RL ain't a Sunday Morning either. 
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2009, 10:59:51 AM
Pickers, Vulchers, Ho'ers, Tards, Noobs, Dweebs, whatever you call everything..............

Here is the truth.  Every last one of us complain when it happens to us, yet we all have done it. 

Why can't we just except the fact that these things happen in our AH world.  RL ain't a Sunday Morning either. 

accept.... just saying.   :aok
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 11:03:45 AM
Well sounds like you are an alt monkey. Killing someone who is climbing out and is not engaged is not  picking, however.

ahhh so i am not guilty so far?  :)
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
ahhh so i am not guilty so far?  :)

Well you're an alt monkey; guilty there.

Picker?  Yep. Everybody in the MA picks... every last one of us.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: LLogann on September 15, 2009, 11:08:08 AM
What on Earth do you mean Steve?    :lol  :D  :lol

accept.... just saying.   :aok

Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 15, 2009, 12:10:41 PM
ok, so my idea is, go along this shining path my brother, you will get a helping hand here, take a 38L and use the dive brakes

let the flashing guns give you a bit satisfaction

There are no dive brakes on any of the P-38s.

ack-ack
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: BillyD on September 15, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
There are no dive brakes on any of the P-38s.

ack-ack


            The ground serves as a tremendous dive brake for all P38 models.  :(
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: CAP1 on September 15, 2009, 12:46:22 PM

            The ground serves as a tremendous dive brake for all P38 models.  :(
THE GROUND IS OVERMODELED
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 15, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
There are no dive brakes on any of the P-38s.

ack-ack

what i was talking about the P38L was the dive flaps, they jsut makes it more controable for me, i can dive with 480 mph easy, dive flaps in, full control! i named it wrong because the keys shift C are the same like dive brakes at other birds!
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Shuffler on September 15, 2009, 02:09:43 PM
what i was talking about the P38L was the dive flaps, they jsut makes it more controable for me, i can dive with 480 mph easy, dive flaps in, full control! i named it wrong because the keys shift C are the same like dive brakes at other birds!

I do that in the J.  ;)
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 16, 2009, 08:57:54 AM
I do that in the J.  ;)

just offtopic, why not the L Version?
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2009, 12:48:41 PM
just offtopic, why not the L Version?

I used to fly the L a whole lot. Nothing wrong with it at all. It actually has a quicker roll.

I just like the J skins better and have no need for the boosted controls.

Most of the folks you see in Ls these days have it dressed to the nines with ords.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: MjTalon on September 16, 2009, 12:52:09 PM
I'm all of the above. Our unit flies high, we train in thin air and we've been called some of the best names in the book but you know what? Who cares, at the end of the day it's all for the love of the game and the immersion factor we get engaging as a unit instead of lone wolfs and you can't beat it.

 :aok
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: druski85 on September 16, 2009, 12:52:24 PM
I got an email today in which a consultant with whom I am working suggested that we " 'cherry pick' the most pragmatic customers" at an upcoming trade fair.  I couldn't help but laugh pretty loud in my office.

Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 16, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
I got an email today in which a consultant with whom I am working suggested that we " 'cherry pick' the most pragmatic customers" at an upcoming trade fair.  I couldn't help but laugh pretty loud in my office.


^

welcome to the club   :lol :lol :lol :aok
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: 10001212 on September 16, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
 :OCherry pickers are the WORST sort of scum......unless of course its my side doing it! :D
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 16, 2009, 07:55:22 PM
what i was talking about the P38L was the dive flaps, they jsut makes it more controable for me, i can dive with 480 mph easy, dive flaps in, full control! i named it wrong because the keys shift C are the same like dive brakes at other birds!

It's not the dive flaps that is allowing you to remain in control at those speeds since the dive flaps themselves will not change your speed.  If you reported that your plane keeps pitching nose up in a dive then you know that's from the dive flaps.


ack-ack
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: A8HatTrick on September 16, 2009, 07:56:01 PM
<<-- 190A8, I fly it based upon its in game capabilities. It forces me to be conservative with E, Plan ahead prior to engaging, and forces a total SA comprehension.

Majority of my kills are on unsuspecting victims from the rear. I will avoid a co alt fight with just about anything, and will run from a dot on the horizon if its above me and it doesnt show friendly on the radar. I get more personal enjoyement out of returning to base in 1 piece with 1 or 2 kills rather than dying in a blaze of glory with 5 kills under my belt in a furball.

I also get alot of enjoyement out of keeping a vocal SA in local since I tend not to dive in to much.

If I want to TnB, I prefer the F4F A6M5 and some Spit Variants (my wingman makes me <S>A8Hunter).

But mostly I can be found in the hybrid, the 190A4, lets me do a little of both.
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Sc00ter on September 16, 2009, 07:59:39 PM
ok lets go,

Yes, i am an high alt monkey, a cherry picker, there no better feeling of diving in with 480mph, 1 second blazing guns, BOOM, zoom out waiting for the next one  :x

High alt Monkeys, your move now!

P.S. mud crawlers and tank driver, please stay out of this thread, we need psycho therapy silence here  :lol




Just don't be mad when I HO you :lol
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 16, 2009, 08:01:06 PM
just offtopic, why not the L Version?

For me, it's a historical thing tied with the squadron I've been a member of since AW days.  The 479th went to war in the P-38J so that's the plane I choose to fly and its great that there are two 479th P-38J skins to choose from.  One of the good things about flying in a historical squadron that flew multiple plane types is if I ever want to down grade and fly a P-51D there is a 479th skin for that plane too but I'll never see myself in a Mustang, after all, why drink Thunderbird when I can drink Dom Pérignon?


ack-ack
Title: Re: The Cherry picker outing Thread
Post by: dhyran on September 17, 2009, 04:46:54 AM

Just don't be mad when I HO you :lol

hehe, i avoid the HO, so no madness here  :lol