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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: flight17 on September 23, 2009, 03:54:09 PM
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just a minute ago i was near a base and got killed by online. i was behind trees and i couldnt see him but i was able to see where he rounds where coming. yet he could see me and got me. now others have said about turning down the graphics so that those trees wouldnt be there so you can see others, but i dont want to because thats not realistic or fair to others. but there is no way he could have seen me unless he has them turned down.
i wish that there if there is a con within the radar area, your settings must go full so that all trees/bushes are shown. its an unfair advantage to people who turn them down specifically for that purpose.
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Are we degenerating back to that again? Thought they fixed that, long ago!!!
RC
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just a minute ago i was near a base and got killed by online. i was behind trees and i couldnt see him but i was able to see where he rounds where coming. yet he could see me and got me. now others have said about turning down the graphics so that those trees wouldnt be there so you can see others, but i dont want to because thats not realistic or fair to others. but there is no way he could have seen me unless he has them turned down.
i wish that there if there is a con within the radar area, your settings must go full so that all trees/bushes are shown. its an unfair advantage to people who turn them down specifically for that purpose.
NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING is as G A M E Y as GVs
Except F3 view in 1 and 2 engine birds :aok :aok
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NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING is as G A M E Y as GVs
Except F3 view in 1 and 2 engine birds :aok :aok
If you really want to get technical, F3 in any plane is "gamey" since no pilot even in 4 engined bombers got an outside view ;)
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Are we degenerating back to that again? Thought they fixed that, long ago!!!
RC
so did i but i know for a fact he shouldnt have been able to see me i was behind a whole line of trees
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You CAN shoot between the trees, if you find the right angle, and a little luck... In fairness, I have killed quite a few GV's that way, even tho I couldn't see them...
If this is true, I wonder if it might have something to do with the new terrains, and being compatible with older machines... Thats the only thing I could think of, that would cause a fallback to the old gamey tricks again..
RC
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You CAN shoot between the trees, if you find the right angle, and a little luck... In fairness, I have killed quite a few GV's that way, even tho I couldn't see them...
If this is true, I wonder if it might have something to do with the new terrains, and being compatible with older machines... Thats the only thing I could think of, that would cause a fallback to the old gamey tricks again..
RC
how would he have been able to range me if i couldnt be seen at all. it was a whole group of trees and i know for a fact i couldnt be seen. he fired 2 shots both a little short then one shotted me with third...
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I got shot thru a virtual forest of trees, by one of the top aces, who just lowered the resolution down. there should be a minimum resolution for the game or if the map makers placed a tree somewhere, then whether you see or not u shouldnt be able to shoot thru it. btw i lowered the resolution in my computer so check it out and decided that I didnt spent money upgrading my puter to cheat at a game. cheaters may have a high rank but everybody knows who the real skilled players are, they get saluted all the time :salute
semp
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Yeah I have wondered if the fix carried over to the new version? I admit I turn down my graphics when I GV as a means to pick up enemy movement. True the panzer and the tiger can be seen like a sore thumb in their defualt camo pattern. The sherman is hard to see at times therefore I turn the graphics down and change the gamma to allow me to see movement at range better. Kind like looking through a paif of NVG's, I notice movement before I actually see the tank and I am able to fire. Sounds weird dont it? As far as kills through trees it can be done. The other night I sat in some trees and had a T34 fire over 20 shells at me while my buddies manuvered around him. He finally got me bu getting a round at the right angle and all. Do I like it? No because it seems like each time I fire into trees my rounds explode on the limbs, LOL. I don't know what can be done to address this. Maybe some of those who have been around longer can have some input??
BigKev
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hmmm sounds like youre not realize a few aspects of the situation here........
the trees we have now are not like the old trees....... they are open at the bases
tank rounds arc with distance....... the closer they are the more direct the shot....... meaning its not going to hit the thick foliage of the tree..... it just needs to avoid the trunk...... the further you are the more the round will arc.... meaning a shot from 4K out can easily go over trees and hit you if your far enough behind them even if you cant be seen
while you were sitting in what you thought was dense cover ........ you were hidden behind tall 'grass' which does not stop rounds...... this is why you couldnt see him all you could see was grass
if you could see his rounds coming then chances are a part of you was exposed to him... even if it was just the tip of your pintle gun
but even if nothing was exposed...... you said you were near his base........ so chances are he spotted you from the tower and knew exactly where you were sitting before he ever spawned out
I rarely if ever will leave a tower without first going into external view to see exactly where the gvs are
as far as graphics goes........ anything they fixed still carries over and more....... in fact the advantages the 'lower end' users had are gone now...... such as being able to see through smoke
turning down your graphics would not make a round go through an object even if you didnt see the object........ I keep mine turned all the way up and still occasionally hit trees that are invisible to me at a distance
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no, i was pretty much right on his base behind the indestructable. he was firing from behind the corner of the indestructable i believe because i was able to see the very top of the side of the hangar and the round was almost inline with the edge of the side. and he couldnt have seen me from the tower because of how the base is situated and how i drove in. from the time he fired to the time i was hit was 2-3 secs, so there was no arc affect great enough to get over the trees. the trees had grasses in front so he still couldnt have been able to see me at the bottom. and i was right up against the trees.
as for the smoke, just 2 weeks ago, i had a guy fire through and area that had over ten canisters out and he 1 shotted me. we were in close range (it was a duel spawn that had a gv fight going) he was on the on side and i was on the other and both on the same level. explain how he was able to fire through all of that and 1 shot me non the less.
ive been gving for a while now so i know what all happens...
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if youve been GVing for a while now and know what happens then you cant possibly believe your own statement....
"he couldnt have seen me from the tower because of how the base is situated and how I drove in"
from the tower you can see a gv sitting at the spawn in any direction and watch it the entire drive in
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you also say it was a close range shot so no arc effect............ which means no chance the round was going to hit any trees.......... that grass you were sitting behind does not stop rounds............ and he knew exactly where you were before he ever left the tower......... a 2 weeker could have made the shot
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If you really want to get technical, F3 in any plane is "gamey" since no pilot even in 4 engined bombers got an outside view ;)
For that matter, one pilot never took the place of 10 crew members on a B17 either. Hence the reason HT has F3 for them.
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This is still a problem. Since the new version I have been really annoyed at how people can turn down their graphics and see my movement from far away through many clusters of invisible trees(to them). I often get shot through trees that I have no way of seeing through and when I return fire through the same trees my shells always explode without penetrating. A buddy of mine was saying that he was able to shoot through trees if he couldnt see them, I doubted his claim and havent tested it. I know in the past when I didnt have ground vis range maxed out I would have rounds explode in mid air when they hit trees that are actually there.
I always play with maxed settings and its really unfortunate if others are getting an advantage with lower settings. I hope that if this is the case it will be addressed.
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If you really want to get technical, F3 in any plane is "gamey" since no pilot even in 4 engined bombers got an outside view ;)
As gamey as putting your pet giraffe in your Sherman? :lol
The one with the 7' neck when your in F1?
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I always play with maxed settings and its really unfortunate if others are getting an advantage with lower settings. I hope that if this is the case it will be addressed.
if its a settings issue which you could do yourself then this is hardly an unfair advantage........... change your settings
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if its a settings issue which you could do yourself then this is hardly an unfair advantage........... change your settings
I refuse to modify video settings to get an advantage that was not intended, while it isnt cheating or hacking, it is definatly an unfair advantage.
Being able to see vehicle effects beyond your ground visual range is something that needs to be fixed, and the fix shouldnt be to tell GVers to lower their graphics settings if they want it fair.
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I started upping il2's got tired of getting shot thru trees. now they can lower their resolution all they want. :bolt:
semp
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Here is a simple solution to the situation. Anytime you have something like being shot thru trees, ghost kills or major warpage from some one, post a film of it so we have a reference. Csuse right now it is a he said she said situation. I'm sorrƯ to put it that that way but....
Also like guncrasher says, I usually up a hvy 110 for repelling gv's
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I believe this issue has been fixed a while ago. He must have gotta a good line on you through the trees. I have done it, and others have done it to me. Nothing really needs to be fixed other than letting you know that a stationary target eventually will be a dead target.
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I believe this issue has been fixed a while ago. He must have gotta a good line on you through the trees. I have done it, and others have done it to me. Nothing really needs to be fixed other than letting you know that a stationary target eventually will be a dead target.
bingo.......... the rest of this story is nothing more than a "hes better than me and its not fair" whine
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It's all where your sitting, imagine you park under a tree and see a guy 3,000 yards away in an open field. When you fire your below the tree line so your round goes out and finds its target. When that same guy returns fire the arc of his round is going fall into the impenetrable trees. It's all about creeping forward or back till you get that magic angle. Gv's are finicky, there fun but can be pretty frustrating.
And those guys that don't have good graphic cards are prolly more frustrated by hitting an "Invisible tree" than you are by getting shot through one once in a while. I had bad graphics before the update and I hit invisible barns, trees, barney, who knows what it was but it sucked.
The moral of the story is it's an inconsistent game and you gotta roll with the punches :joystick:
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Adjusting vis ranges has nothing to do with a shell going threw a tree.
HiTech
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I have been GVing awhile now and I know that its possible to shoot through trees, but when it comes to 2 or 3 sections of forest and have rounds following you no matter where you hide behind the forests is fishy.
Belial I understand what your saying but in the cases im talking about, im the one behind the trees so that their arc will impact the tree...in the past they would explode harmlessly...now they go through and explode harmfully...
I will start gathering film, I'm at work now so I dont remember if I already saved some.
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It's actually easy to hit someone behind a tree. Not always, mind you, but alot of times when someone doesn't have a shot on you, and they think you don't have a shot on them. All you have to do is find that sweet spot.
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i have been shot thru trees in last couple of days, and I have seen guys get shot thru trees. happens when people lower their resolution. when that happens to me I up an il2 and go kill the offender :D. and eye for an eye. :devil. dont think lowering your resolution is cheating anymore than using trackir. and since i refuse to lower the resolution on my vc ( i didnt spend ten's of dollars to upgrade, just to play with lower graphics :rofl) I'll just keep upping il2's see who gets tired first : :airplane:.
semp