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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FYB on September 24, 2009, 07:40:41 PM
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I've had it for about 2 and a half years now, it got the red rings about 3 times now. the first time, it just went by. The second time i did the penny fix and it worked for a month, yesterday i had done the towel trick to reset the chips (or so they say that's what it does) and with the penny fix already there i decided it was a good thing to do. Well, it worked, for a day. Today it got the red rings for the third time, im going to let cool (it's not even warm) to see if it will work. :cry
Any tips or suggestions to fix it or a cooling system?
I just want it to work a little bit more, a month or more. Maybe permanent...
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It's not working... :cry :cry :cry
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Well, it depends, do you have the 360 or the elite?
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Well, it depends, do you have the 360 or the elite?
The arcade version, my first one (Original 360 - Not arcade or Elite) died with the E74 error.
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The arcade version, my first one (Original 360 - Not arcade or Elite) died with the E74 error.
:/ May want to contact the company and see what they can do. I know that when a friend of mines elite red ringed, they replaced it for the price of shipping...
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:/ May want to contact the company and see what they can do. I know that when a friend of mines elite red ringed, they replaced it for the price of shipping...
Contacted them, they wanted $150 for repairs so i decided to do the penny fix. I MODDED the xbox. Can't send it now, and it would have been a rip off. I just want a temporary solution for the rumored new to come model.
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I've had it for about 2 and a half years now, it got the red rings about 3 times now. the first time, it just went by. The second time i did the penny fix and it worked for a month, yesterday i had done the towel trick to reset the chips (or so they say that's what it does) and with the penny fix already there i decided it was a good thing to do. Well, it worked, for a day. Today it got the red rings for the third time, im going to let cool (it's not even warm) to see if it will work. :cry
Any tips or suggestions to fix it or a cooling system?
I just want it to work a little bit more, a month or more. Maybe permanent...
If you never sent it into Microsux after it happend those three times, you should contact them and see if you can send it in. You should still be under the warranty period since Microsux extended the warranty for 3 years.
Alternatively, you can go to a site like this (http://360ringofdeathfix.com/?hop=nrfmanag1) that claims to sell a guide and video that walk you step by step in how to fix the red ring of death.
Good luck.
ack-ack
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Ack, man. Always there to help out others. Thank you. :aok
If it doesn't work, i wasted $10 on the monthly XboxLive. Oh well.
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I have just fixed my xbox, i decided i'd take EVERYTHING apart, didn't like what i found so i cleaned it up. Now it's just running real nice. But i'll report back to give a success rating! :aok
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There is a fix out there on the internet that I did on my son's 360 that worked a charm. It involves removing the heat sink from the processor and reattaching it with new thermal compound and bolts/nuts instead of the cheesy clips that currently hold it in place. Apparently the cheesy clips expand and contract with the heat and eventually loosen up the heatsink to where it is ineffective. I don't have the link on me, but I'm sure some Googling would pull it up.
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There is a fix out there on the internet that I did on my son's 360 that worked a charm. It involves removing the heat sink from the processor and reattaching it with new thermal compound and bolts/nuts instead of the cheesy clips that currently hold it in place. Apparently the cheesy clips expand and contract with the heat and eventually loosen up the heatsink to where it is ineffective. I don't have the link on me, but I'm sure some Googling would pull it up.
How much does it cost? I saw the video in Youtube, will get the link.
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The problem with the xBox lies in the lead-free "environmentally friendly" solder that Microsoft used. Due to not containing lead, the properties of the solder changed. For one, it's very brittle and the condition worsens with every heating/cooling cycle. The "towel trick" only works because it literally re-melts the solder and "resolders" the entire system. Obviously, doing this multiple times is detrimental.
Absolutely ANYTHING you can do to keep the system cool will help it along. The RRoD comes from the solder heating up and losing contact 99% of the time. Personally, if mine ever does it (and it hasn't for at least 1.5 years now, maybe 2), I'll be taking it into the shop at school where they have the spiffy soldering equipment and redoing each contact I can get to with leaded solder. Because I'm bored like that. :D
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How much does it cost? I saw the video in Youtube, will get the link.
Cost about $5 in bolts/nuts/washers from Home Depot and one tube of thermal compound.
OOZ662, from the research I did the towel trick wasn't to heat the system up enough to remelt the solder. It was supposed to reset the system and allow it to boot again until the error occurs again. My understanding is that the red rings are a cooling issue and not a soldering problem the majority of the time.
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I dunno what would reset other than the physical location of the solder...hmm. I got all that from a discussion of techies following the posting of one of the heatsink replacing videos...after they got done drolling over the fine girl and her pretty hands, that is. :D
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Could always do what someone told me about. Go to Walmart and buy a new unit. Pull the guts and swap with the guts you have now. Take new case and old guts back to Walmart and return as non-working unit for cash back. Not really ethical, but it is an option. :devil
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It would not be possible to put a warranty on it, because he Cracked the seals on the case. So pretty much you are up poo creek. What you could do if you are experienced with a soldering iron, is re solder the chips with LEAD solder none of that eco friendly crap. that would fix your problem.
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It's not just the chips, it's everything that was soldered on the board.
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The chips is where the problem is though, because when the board heats up it causes the ecosolder to melt which then lets the chip float around a bit, causing the connections to fail.
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Lol i just got my red ring for the first time yesterday.
I heard that Microsoft that if you email them they'll send u a box to ship ur xbox to them in. and then they'll ship you a brand new console.
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I had the three rings on my X-Box about a year ago. I went to Microsoft's website, filled out a ticket, and they mailed me a box with postage pre-paid. Didn't cost me a dime to send the system back to them in the box, and they shipped it back to me (also free of charge) within a couple of weeks. As much as I dislike Microsoft, I had absolutely no complaints about this one; the customer support was fantastic, free, and prompt.
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@Selino631: No most times they fix your console and ship it back to you, because something in the system program prevents you from keeping and reusing the DLC on your drive.
@Dead Man Flying: There is a reason that they fix the RRoD for free. Microsoft knows they screwed up by using the Ecosolder and that over repeated heating/cooling cycles it gets brittle and fails. They just don't want to lose business.
I have a buddy that they fixed his xbox after a RRoD. He got it back and it had some major problems. It started acting as if it had some major heat damage, like it started to have hitches in the games, unexplained lock ups. Stuff along those lines.
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PS-3 > X-box
:aok :cry
-BigBOBCH
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PS-3 > X-box
:aok :cry
-BigBOBCH
Yes, but, can you play Katamari Damacy on your PS3? Or Ace Combat 5 or Ace Combat Zero? No, you cannot.
Please don't make this into a console war.
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I, like usual, said screw buying online. I asked my father who is an Engineer, and he decided he'd do hes own version with different nuts and bolts. IT WORKED, as of now, the xbox has been working like a charm. I removed the Heat Sink and found the problem, i also removed the X-clamps, which my father explained that the problem was the X-clamps shrinking and expanding from the heat. They loosened the heat sink began to get gaps in between and the crappy solder melted all over the chips. The solder was ineffective now and so were the Heat sinks. The bolts tightened the heat sinks again and i put my own silicon thermal paste (MUCH BETTER THAN THE STUPID SOLDERING). It should now work like brand new. Especially with the soon to come cooling system. :D
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I had the three rings on my X-Box about a year ago. I went to Microsoft's website, filled out a ticket, and they mailed me a box with postage pre-paid. Didn't cost me a dime to send the system back to them in the box, and they shipped it back to me (also free of charge) within a couple of weeks. As much as I dislike Microsoft, I had absolutely no complaints about this one; the customer support was fantastic, free, and prompt.
same here
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Yes, but, can you play Katamari Damacy on your PS3? Or Ace Combat 5 or Ace Combat Zero? No, you cannot.
Please don't make this into a console war.
The hell's Katamari Damacy? And you can't play Ace Combat 5 or Zero on your xBox 360...some actually can play them on their PS3. What's your point?
I have both. Prefer the PS3's graphics and xBox's online play. That's what it generally boils down to.
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The hell's Katamari Damacy? And you can't play Ace Combat 5 or Zero on your xBox 360...some actually can play them on their PS3. What's your point?
Dido
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The hell's Katamari Damacy? And you can't play Ace Combat 5 or Zero on your xBox 360...some actually can play them on their PS3. What's your point?
I have both. Prefer the PS3's graphics and xBox's online play. That's what it generally boils down to.
If you're going to turn my thread into a "The best Gaming Console" argument, then please, leave. This is for people who may of had the 3 rings or anything about the Xbox360.
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And that has been discussed to its limits, as far as I see. Nothing stopping you from continuing, though.
All I was doing was correcting a bit of misguidance.
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And that has been discussed to its limits, as far as I see. Nothing stopping you from continuing, though.
All I was doing was correcting a bit of misguidance.
Thank you, i agree the Ps3 is better built, better graphics, but the popularity for the 360 is so intense it blows the PS3 out of the box. Further Discussion won't go any farther.
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@Dead Man Flying: There is a reason that they fix the RRoD for free. Microsoft knows they screwed up by using the Ecosolder and that over repeated heating/cooling cycles it gets brittle and fails. They just don't want to lose business.
I know why the error is common. And the customer service in response to the problem I encountered was excellent.
What is your point exactly?