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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: nub001 on September 24, 2009, 08:37:25 PM
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Hull Front (Upper) : 80mm @ 35°
Hull Front (Lower) : 60mm @ 35°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 50mm @ 50°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 40mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 40mm @ 60°
Hull Top : 16mm - 40mm @ 0°
Hull Bottom : 16mm - 30mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 110mm @ 80°
Turret Mantlet : 100mm @ Round
Turret Sides : 45mm @ 65°
Turret Rear : 45mm @ 65°
Turret Top : 16mm @ 0° - 6°
Main Gun : 75mm Kw.K.42 L / 70
Main Gun Ammo : 79
secondary Weapons : 1x 7.92mm MG 34 (Coaxial - 2100 rounds)
1x 7.92mm MG 34 (Bow - 2400 rounds)1x 7.92mm MG 34 (AA - 2400 rounds)
92mm Smoke Grenade Launcher
Elevation : +18° / -8°
Track Links : 86 per track
Track Width : 66 centimeters
Length : 8.65 meters
Height : 2.97 meters
Width : 3.43 meters
Weight : 45465 kilograms
Power : 700 hp @ 3000 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 15.4 hp per tonne
Gears : 7 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspension : Twin Torsion Bar
Number Produced : 3126
Road Speed : 46 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 30 Kilometers per Hour
Role : Medium Tank
Production Date : March 1944
http://www.twenot.nl/panther.htm Those are pictures of the panther G medium tank
http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/panther.htm These are pictures on what the tank should look like but this is a A model but there's little differences in the appearance of all panther models. And if you look on the wiki well wiki is usually wrong about everything so search other websites before making correction comments. And if any one has any corrections on the data with out looking at the wiki please inform me of it so I can correct it. And this tank should be in here as a match for the tiger and firefly. It would be perked like the m4 or a little more than the m4.And to get the penetration data go to http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_vehicles_adv.php?op=getvehicles&vehiclesX=71
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visuals
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/PanzerV_Ausf.G_1_sk.jpg)
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impressive picture , no sheep in it, but cool nonetheless. btw is that a smoke canister I see in that tank or is it an air pump for the threads?
semp
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I don't know much about tanks, but it looks like a fire extinguisher to me.
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impressive picture , no sheep in it, but cool nonetheless. btw is that a smoke canister I see in that tank or is it an air pump for the threads?
semp
what do you mean?
cu
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A definite +1.
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what do you mean?
cu
chris 3, if you look at it real carefully, there no sheep anywhere on thank tank, weird isnt it?
del your right the canister might be a fire extinguisher. didnt think about that. I guess I am still obsessed with the smoke option on pt boats :)
semp
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Panther F or G.. at the Patton Museum at Fort Knox.
(http://www.51hangar.net/Photos/Patton/pantherg.jpg)
(http://www.51hangar.net/Photos/Patton/pantherg2.jpg)
This was a runner up until the 80s. I think the are going to be restoring it. They have another Panther but it is not on display.
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moin
This is not a panther G this is the only existing Panther II body (wanne) with panther G turret.
normaly these panther schould lock like this
(http://666kb.com/i/avafni1l4nfehmj6m.jpg)
withe the "smallturm" smal turet
cu chris3
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This would be a great addition. It would give good competiton to the tiger. I know we already have the firefly, but this would match the frontal armor, so overall probably not a 26 perk, but more like a 10-20 perk.
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CbwnjooteyI/R1k3ZvYeHqI/AAAAAAAACbo/B5Jgg1kdFWM/s400/PantherTankColor.jpg)
Pleeeeze! :pray
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This would be a great addition. It would give good competiton to the tiger. I know we already have the firefly, but this would match the frontal armor, so overall probably not a 26 perk, but more like a 10-20 perk.
I no right i want the panther because there was only a few american tanks that can kill it 1v1 frontal firefight so i think this should come next then a american tank destroyer like m18 hellcat
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i would much rather like a plain old M4 sherman.
we have enough german tank
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i would much rather like a plain old M4 sherman.
we have enough german tank
Wasn't the sherman equivelant to the panther?
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Wasn't the sherman equivelant to the panther?
You're kidding, right? :confused:
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No, I heard somewhere that the sherman was about the same as the panther before all the upgunning happened.
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No, I heard somewhere that the sherman was about the same as the panther before all the upgunning happened.
Panzer, not Panther and Panzer in that context means a Panzer IV of some kind. Panther is far superior to the Sherman and was almost certainly the best tank to see wide use in WWII.
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lol, looks like the other panz (if that what it is) in the back ready to kill it.
OK, i do have to ask this. What is with the ruff surface on the panzer and tiger? Is there a purpose for the ridges?
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It helps to protect against shaped charges
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_explosive_anti-tank_warhead
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The rough surfaces(called Zimmerite) was to help defeat magnetic anti tank mines.
Only problem with this is the Germans were the only army to use magnetic mines on a large scale.
(http://www.inert-ord.net/ger03a/gerat/hhl3diag.jpg)
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It helps to protect against shaped charges
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_explosive_anti-tank_warhead
And it probably helped against AP rounds as well.
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And it probably helped against AP rounds as well.
it is a nonmagnetic paste that makes the magnets of attached hollow charges not work the paste was hardened by blow torches it had no effect to the tanks protection against AP rounds.
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Oh OK. I thought he ment like how we have cages on our APC's that cause shaped charges to detonate before they are the optimal distance from the tank.
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Oh OK. I thought he ment like how we have cages on our APC's that cause shaped charges to detonate before they are the optimal distance from the tank.
if you want the site where i got my info from here it is http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/8172/panzerfaust1.htm on what its used for is in there but you will have to scroll down
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well I knew german tanks had anti magnetic paint, but I didn't know that it caused those bumps and ridges....
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well I knew german tanks had anti magnetic paint, but I didn't know that it caused those bumps and ridges....
the putty/paste was hardened into that design as the second layer and to make it look cool =P i would like to see the putty removed from our tanks since its useless make our German tanks nice and shiny
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Yeah, it is useless. But how does it make the German GV's shiny?
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Yeah, it is useless. But how does it make the German GV's shiny?
it wont be rugged any more it'll be pure German steel it'll only be shiny when sun is out =P
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It is a fire supression system for the engine compartment they were notorious for catching fire.
heres a page out of my panzer repair manual. 1944
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/smokey23_photos/pffeuerloeschanlage.jpg)
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It is a fire supression system for the engine compartment they were notorious for catching fire.
heres a page out of my panzer repair manual.
(http://[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/smokey23_photos/pffeuerloeschanlage.jpg)[/img]
what was the zimmerit coating? well any ways back to the panther since this is why i made the thread to try and (get a lot of good replies on wanting it in the game to make it come soon) [theory]
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Its a antimagnetic coating, to prevent the allies from useing magnetic anti tank mines
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it wont be rugged any more it'll be pure German steel it'll only be shiny when sun is out =P
Oh, I see what your saying. I thought you meant like they were shiny now. But no, make the panzer WAY to easy to kill.
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Its a antimagnetic coating
what does magnetics have to do with fire? i mean its pointless in this game because u don't catch on fire
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Oh, I see what your saying. I thought you meant like they were shiny now. But no, make the panzer WAY to easy to kill.
But no, make the panzer WAY to easy to kill.???? the m4 Sherman with the 75mm could kill it in front armor at medium range.htc needs to fix the m8 and panzer thing aint the panzers turret armor 50mm? m8s shouldnt be able to pierce it at medium rangers to long they shouldnt be able to pierce past 1000m because they only pierce 38mm armor with ap rounds at 1000m at 30 degrees so i think panzer should be safe from m8s that far away front front only sides and rear should be pierced by an m8 that far away
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IDK what the armor measurments are. But if you make them shiny, itll be even worse then the current orange, brown thing we have now.
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IDK what the armor measurments are. But if you make them shiny, itll be even worse then the current orange, brown thing we have now.
not ugly shiny as in brand new shiny well back to the panther its all about panther
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hehehehe...my work here is done. But +1 for the panther.
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hehehehe...my work here is done. But +1 for the panther.
ty just need skuzzy in here to give his opinion about the panther and ill be happy. and to have HVAP (APCR) rounds for the tiger and panzer thatll be nice instead of just ap rounds ap rounds too plain
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ty just need skuzzy in here to give his opinion about the panther and ill be happy
Scuzzy kinda droped off the map a bit ago. He's probably on one of his ub8r secret spy missions to china. Shhhh, don't tell anyone :noid......
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Scuzzy kinda droped off the map a bit ago. He's probably on one of his ub8r secret spy missions to china. Shhhh, don't tell anyone :noid......
wouldnt it be nice to see hvap rounds for tiger and panzer increased penetration at closer ranges than ap round?
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yup, thats how they work.....
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yup, thats how they work.....
but terrible at long ranges but itll be nice to have extra penetration for panzer against tigers and m4s turret. but any ways panther plz
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well yeah, but not really a lot of problems agains T34's or panzers.
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well yeah, but not really a lot of problems agains T34's or panzers.
t34 76 is an equal match for a panzer t34 85 vs panzer not fair match if the guy in t34 85 nails u then ur screwed unless u can nail his turret
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Soviet infantry used magnetic charges to kill german tanks... Thats why the german tanks used Zimmerit...
The penal companies would dig shallow holes about 50 meters apart and cammo them, if they had time...
Then wait for the tanks to get close, VERY close, and attack like an army of ants...
NKVD Penal units were always used in this suicidal fashion.. Once you were convicted by a drumhead tribunal, for almost anything, even the most minor offence, the only way out was to Atone with your own blood!!!
Hard to get volunteers for certain death ya know!!!
RC
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Soviet infantry used magnetic charges to kill german tanks... Thats why the german tanks used Zimmerit...
The penal companies would dig shallow holes about 50 meters apart and cammo them, if they had time...
Then wait for the tanks to get close, VERY close, and attack like an army of ants...
NKVD Penal units were always used in this suicidal fashion.. Once you were convicted by a drumhead tribunal, for almost anything, even the most minor offence, the only was out was to Atone with your own blood!!!
Hard to get volunteers for certain death ya know!!!
RC
zimmerit was rarely put on tanks in 1944 but i really dont no nything bout them russians and their at weps back then so ya. back to panther PANTHER
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t34 76 is an equal match for a panzer t34 85 vs panzer not fair match if the guy in t34 85 nails u then ur screwed unless u can nail his turret
Not really, in the game at least. Its close, but not as good IMHO (in my honest opinion).
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Not really, in the game at least. Its close, but not as good IMHO (in my honest opinion).
well gving ain't realistic in speed and armor penetrations at ranges like a 88mm bouncing off a m8s turret at like 800m away in front which is highly bull and off panzers 80mm frontal armor at point blank and m4s turret at point blank and then getting killed >.> but any ways back to panther please?
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well gving ain't realistic in speed and armor penetrations at ranges like a 88mm bouncing off a m8s turret at like 800m away in front which is highly bull and off panzers 80mm frontal armor at point blank and m4s turret at point blank and then getting killed >.> but any ways back to panther please?
Thats HE rounds. Maybe AP when your shooting at one when its on a steep enough hill that it triples the armor thickness.
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Thats HE rounds. Maybe AP when your shooting at one when its on a steep enough hill that it triples the armor thickness.
actually point blank with the tigers 88mm would kill the panzer and m4 hell the shell would go through em so i stand uncorrected bout that and the m8 800m away and 88mm AP shell bounce off in front turret
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Can anyone else confirm this?
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Can anyone else confirm this?
it happened before the big update came out tho might have fixed it forgot when happened till now
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OK so your argument concerning that is no longer valid if its fixed or if no one else confirms it.
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OK so your argument concerning that is no longer valid if its fixed or if no one else confirms it.
umm m8 has problems still a tigers 88mm bounced off my m8 last week and i was like wow wth this aint and it was at like 400m away and yes the guy did have ap rounds no he rounds and ya m8 needs repairings or the 88 does but please drop it this is about the panther not anything else
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fine.
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i would much rather like a plain old M4 sherman.
we have enough german tank
we have 2 of em the Flakpanzer IV "Wirbelwind" and Flakpanzer IV "Ostwind" are Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft panzers
the 2 "tanks" we have are Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf. H and Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. E "Tiger" and 1 Armored Personnel Carrier Sd.Kfz.251
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even if you dont count the wirble and osti thats still 2 german tanks to 0 american tanks.
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Basic 75 or 76mm US M4 Sherman is needed and should be the next tank added.
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While I do love the M4, I like the Panther just a little more. +1 for me! :aok
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Well, I say since we already have a contemporary of the Sherman, we add the Panther first.
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Well, I say since we already have a contemporary of the Sherman, we add the Panther first.
i no because we need more gvs to combat the firefly and tiger better the m4 can not then we can add m4 sherman cuz it can pierce its sides at 1500m
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i no because we need more gvs to combat the firefly and tiger better the m4 can not then we can add m4 sherman cuz it can pierce its sides at 1500m
:huh
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:huh
he said we need more GV's that can compete against or exceed the firefly, T34/85, and Tiger, if I understand correctly, and that once we get some more GV's we can add tanks like the sherman.
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he said we need more GV's that can compete against or exceed the firefly, T34/85, and Tiger, if I understand correctly, and that once we get some more GV's we can add tanks like the sherman.
what i meant was if we add the panther it could combat tiger and firefly then we add the m4 sherman because it can pierce the panthers rear armor and side armor we shoulda started out with the jagdtiger first then go down on what can combat it then what can combat that gv and so on then we have lots of fun gvs to play around in
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a lot like what I said, but I see the differance...
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a lot like what I said, but I see the differance...
gvs r fun =P
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I got an assist on a tiger with my pistol when his friend in a wirb shot me down. I got "WTG"'s from my squadies for "killing" a tiger with my 1911:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/52dragon/1911tanks.gif)
In retrospect, I should have emptyed my clip at him since he was killed in his hanger (wasn't strafed) by another tiger behind him, that way I would have got the kill. Lol, the guy kills him and only gets an assist.
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I got an assist on a tiger with my pistol when his friend in a wirb shot me down. I got "WTG"'s from my squadies for "killing" a tiger with my 1911:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/52dragon/1911tanks.gif)
In retrospect, I should have emptyed my clip at him since he was killed in his hanger (wasn't strafed) by another tiger behind him, that way I would have got the kill. Lol, the guy kills him and only gets an assist.
actually its whoever does the most damage to the guy gets kill cuz me in m8 guy in sherman next to me vs panzer i hit panzer 3 times all pierce and he hit him once bam he get kill
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Not nessicarily true, I have a kill with my 1911 last tour, and I belive it was on an either an M8 or a bomber, as both of those times I was able to hit them, and the wirb was killed by a firefly, while the buff was killed by a 190 with a cocpit shot. I still got one of the kills.
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Not nessicarily true, I have a kill with my 1911 last tour, and I belive it was on an either an M8 or a bomber, as both of those times I was able to hit them, and the wirb was killed by a firefly, while the buff was killed by a 190 with a cocpit shot. I still got one of the kills.
what bout the m8?
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IDK what happened there. Maybe its varied. I've gotten kills on panzers with a P-51....
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IDK what happened there. Maybe its varied. I've gotten kills on panzers with a P-51....
any one can its easy bombs and rockets or tracking em with 50's
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I got an assist on a tiger with my pistol when his friend in a wirb shot me down. I got "WTG"'s from my squadies for "killing" a tiger with my 1911:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/52dragon/1911tanks.gif)
In retrospect, I should have emptyed my clip at him since he was killed in his hanger (wasn't strafed) by another tiger behind him, that way I would have got the kill. Lol, the guy kills him and only gets an assist.
this is better i want this to happen when im in the panther vs a koingstiger in future in aces high 2
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Tiger_II_punctured_in_front_turret.jpg)
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Yes
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I give you and this thread a.....
(http://grdurand.com/blogger/uploaded_images/kitten_in_custody.jpg)
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I give you and this thread a.....
(http://grdurand.com/blogger/uploaded_images/kitten_in_custody.jpg)
ill take it
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hehehehehehe
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hehehehehehe
even though this be a better pet and cat
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=17333293247438214216&pid=23296&ppid=6)
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even though this be a better pet and cat
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=17333293247438214216&pid=23296&ppid=6)
That one would hurt more: If the german's panther tackles you, you're dead; if that thing tackles you, you're in pain....
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That one would hurt more: If the german's panther tackles you, you're dead; if that thing tackles you, you're in pain....
this calls for!!!!!!
(http://imgtn2.ask.com/ts?t=15668033569189977220&pid=25856&ppid=0)