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Title: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: wrongwayric on September 24, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Ok, now i got your attention for sure.
This forum is suppose to be for "off topic or less serious" posting about issues not related to AH right?

 Well i don't think that any issues, including political should be banned then. As long as we keep it civilized and an "i see it this way, you see it that way type of discussion" i don't see the problem.

You give a forum for non AH related items and let a lot of stuff slide, but dear lord mention politics or something you (skuzzy-moderaters) don't like or
the rules for the AH portion which should not apply to this section of the forum as it has nothing to do with AH,  and it's "nothing to see here" or some such.

So in a nut shell, why even have this forum if it's not for the players to comment on outside issues that concern them if your going to censor it?

Let us paying customers/players decide when enough is enough is what i'm saying really.

I guess if i throw up a picture of the political babe's boobs for the day or some such it'd make this post ok?

Yea your right, i don't get selective censorship by a single individual at all. :(
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: ZetaNine on September 24, 2009, 08:58:26 PM
when I was new here........political threads were all I made.  they all got deep sixed......and in hind sight....they should have.  it's a private board..owned and operated by a private enterprise....so free speech has nothing to do with it.

fact is......especially now adays.....people get offended too easily....so it's the right thing to do.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: gyrene81 on September 24, 2009, 09:03:14 PM
Yup...politics and religion always create stupidity.

Take it from someone who has seen it first hand repeatedly...post a single political or relgious article, opinion, or what have you and you might as well drop a turd in the middle of grandma's christmas dinner. People will troll for reactions, just to see the fireworks.

Doesn't belong on the net anywhere.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Strip on September 24, 2009, 09:11:31 PM
As long as we keep it civilized and an "i see it this way, you see it that way type of discussion" i don't see the problem.

This IS the problem, too many pissing or poo fling contests were caused by "hot" topics, especially one like politics.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: vonKrimm on September 24, 2009, 09:20:21 PM
i don't get selective censorship by a single individual at all. :(

Welcome to the the Skuzocracy.  :salute
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Masherbrum on September 24, 2009, 09:22:30 PM
 :confused:
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: FYB on September 24, 2009, 09:25:05 PM
:confused:
I'll double that.  :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: ariansworld on September 24, 2009, 09:37:12 PM
This one prolly aint gonna end too well.   But my opinion is this:   It is their business, their game, their bbs,  They can run it as they see fit.  If you don't like it you can always take your $14.95 else where.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 24, 2009, 09:37:26 PM
As long as we keep it civilized and an "i see it this way, you see it that way type of discussion" i don't see the problem.

And were O'Club discussions ever civilized when it came to politics?  Never.  It was all about defaming the character and moral worth of anyone who wasn't a hard-nosed ideologue.  I'm glad the politics are gone.  If you want to go back to what was here previously, you know where to go.

Btw, IN.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: 68ZooM on September 24, 2009, 09:57:52 PM
Oh!! this dont look good....


(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/chucknorris.jpg)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: mensa180 on September 24, 2009, 10:05:27 PM
I agree in principle but apparently it has been shown multiple times that people will take a mile when given an inch.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Denholm on September 24, 2009, 10:06:50 PM
Skuzzy needed the reduced work-load. Seems to have really helped.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Maverick on September 24, 2009, 10:32:47 PM
This was a very inappropriate way to try and change the tone of the place wrongway but you already knew that. Skuzzy had stated it often enough that it's not a mandatory part of the game that you be here and if you have a problem he suggested you go the e-mail route. Off hand I figure this was your way of saying goodbye rather than the melodramatic "I QUIT" message we've seen in the past. Ya don't like it here ya don't have to click on the forums. There ARE other options.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Stoney on September 24, 2009, 10:39:33 PM
I'm a big fan of benevolent dictatorships...

I'd rather see mindless threads on cars, chicks and beer in here...
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: OOZ662 on September 24, 2009, 10:44:23 PM
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/OOZ662/logout.jpg)

Unfortunately, I can't make that one a link for you since it seems to require a session ID...but I bet you can find it.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: SIK1 on September 24, 2009, 10:58:43 PM
If you don't like it you can always leave. Better yet start your own forum. Let's see how well that works out for ya.

The O'club is a better place without all the political bs.

Oh yeah IN!
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: rpm on September 25, 2009, 12:51:46 AM
I love how these threads always start after office hours. I'm so IN. :rock

If you want to speak freely, this is not the forum. This is HTC property and as a buisness they have the right to monitor what is presented on their property. It's their butt on the line.

You might be more comfortable posting over at Flamewarriors.net , it's the evil offspring of The O'Club. 
(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4944/skuzzyluvzl6.jpg)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: JunkyII on September 25, 2009, 12:53:30 AM
I love how these threads always start after office hours. I'm so IN. :rock

If you want to speak freely, this is not the forum. This is HTC property and as a buisness they have the right to monitor what is presented on their property. It's their butt on the line.

You might be more comfortable posting over at Flamewarriors.net , it's the evil offspring of The O'Club. 
(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4944/skuzzyluvzl6.jpg)
:rofl
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: usvi on September 25, 2009, 01:40:13 AM
(http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/censored_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Delirium on September 25, 2009, 01:49:46 AM
You might be more comfortable posting over at Flamewarriors.net , it's the evil offspring of The O'Club. 

Yep, make sure you link to this thread when you ask for membership to those forums so the (and I use this term loosely) moderator can allow you access.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: RipChord929 on September 25, 2009, 01:56:50 AM
In fairness, Skuzzy will let a couple of a posters inappropriate (by the rules) threads/posts pass without swinging his banstick... He just locks them... But only a couple... Then Whammo, YOUR GONE for two weeks!!!  Or, if ya REALLY cut loose ugly on the BBS.. He nukes ya with the PNG... Hey, what do ya expect, its his backyard!!!

I know by experience, twice LOL!!!

RC
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Skuzzy on September 25, 2009, 07:13:18 AM
Have a nice day wrongway.

Seems I am the one responsible for you acting like an idiot.  Yes, it is my fault people chose to violate the forum posting rules.  Yes, it is my fault people will not always complain ("Report to moderator" link) about someone breaking said forum rules.  Sure, why not make it my fault that you pissed on HTC because you you cannot have it your way?  This is not Burger King.

I guess it is also my fault you chose to be as disrespectful as you can in our house.  Oh darn, I forget I am supposed to roll over and allow you to be as derogatory towards us as you want to be.  I am supposed to just suck it up and take it.  Well, I guess that is just a short-coming of mine.  Deal with it.

Did someone forget to tell me "political" discussions were light-hearted?  I must have missed that memo.

One last tidbit.  Just because I am the most visible on the boards, from HTC, does not mean I act in a vacuum.  I could easily create a dummy board account to use for moderation, but I chose to use my own name because I think it only fair you know who has to babysit this mess.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: vonKrimm on September 25, 2009, 07:17:17 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
Ok, now i got your attention for sure.
This forum is suppose to be for "off topic or less serious" posting about issues not related to AH right?

 Well i don't think that any issues, including political should be banned then. As long as we keep it civilized and an "i see it this way, you see it that way type of discussion" i don't see the problem.

You give a forum for non AH related items and let a lot of stuff slide, but dear lord mention politics or something you (skuzzy-moderaters) don't like or
the rules for the AH portion which should not apply to this section of the forum as it has nothing to do with AH,  and it's "nothing to see here" or some such.

So in a nut shell, why even have this forum if it's not for the players to comment on outside issues that concern them if your going to censor it?

Let us paying customers/players decide when enough is enough is what i'm saying really.

I guess if i throw up a picture of the political babe's boobs for the day or some such it'd make this post ok?

Yea your right, i don't get selective censorship by a single individual at all. :(

they NEVER stay civilized. they very rarely make it past one page before someone starts personal attacks. it's htc's board.....they can pretty much do as they wish. be glad it's still here.  :aok
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Mickey1992 on September 25, 2009, 08:29:08 AM
Let us paying customers/players decide when enough is enough is what i'm saying really.

As a paying customer I disagree.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: druski85 on September 25, 2009, 08:55:25 AM
Big old   (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs20/f/2007/283/9/7/_facepalm__by_Chimpantalones.gif)   on this one.  

Makes you wonder what people like this did in the days before internet forums.   :rolleyes:

Go outside and talk to someone...you know...in person.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: A.F. Crash, Fire, Rescue on September 25, 2009, 09:21:14 AM
 :aok ^5 Skuzzy for the verbal pwnage!! :D
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: indy007 on September 25, 2009, 09:32:28 AM
There's another forum, populated by past and present AH players, where you can talk all the politics you want, without driving Skuzzy nuts.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Strip on September 25, 2009, 10:56:26 AM
Sure, why not make it my fault that you pissed on HTC because you you cannot have it your way?  This is not Burger King.

 :rofl
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: -tronski- on September 25, 2009, 11:05:50 AM

So in a nut shell, why even have this forum if it's not for the players to comment on outside issues that concern them if your going to censor it?

Let us paying customers/players decide when enough is enough is what i'm saying really.


The minute you own it - is the minute you can make the rules...its been proved time and time again why certain subjects are verboten, live with it or leave are your only choices

 Tronsky
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: 68ZooM on September 25, 2009, 12:12:44 PM

So in a nut shell, why even have this forum if it's not for the players to comment on outside issues that concern them if your going to censor it?

Let us paying customers/players decide when enough is enough is what i'm saying really.

I guess if i throw up a picture of the political babe's boobs for the day or some such it'd make this post ok?

Yea your right, i don't get selective censorship by a single individual at all. :(

Er Um Lil Sunshine they own the site they run it how they see fit. if you dont like the rules dont post. Political babe boobs??  make sure there covered  lol
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Westy on September 25, 2009, 12:40:18 PM
"hey run it how they see fit. if you dont like the rules dont post."

+!   :rock

This forum smells 150% better without all of the the pointless political ranting
and raving.

As has been pointed out. Want to talk about politics?  Well there's an Olympia
store across the street having a big sale so why don't you go get yourself a
new pair of sneakers and hit the bricks!
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Shuffler on September 25, 2009, 12:52:50 PM
I'll double that.  :confused: :confused:


I'll see your    :confused: :confused: and raise you  :huh :rolleyes:
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: jimson on September 25, 2009, 02:50:43 PM
Politics are just too inflammatory.

I know how strongly I feel about certain things, and how I can't resist getting my two cents in whenever something political comes up.

It just gets too ugly too quickly.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2009, 03:01:41 PM
i almost hate to say this.......but mayhaps htc should follow the first part of the op title. shut it down for a bit. see how long it takes for someone to beg them to bring it back.  :noid
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: OOZ662 on September 25, 2009, 03:09:42 PM
i almost hate to say this.......but mayhaps htc should follow the first part of the op title. shut it down for a bit. see how long it takes for someone to beg them to bring it back.  :noid

Been there, done that. Too far back for your time. Or even mine, IIRC.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2009, 03:19:28 PM
Been there, done that. Too far back for your time. Or even mine, IIRC.

they tried that? and it didn't work?

yikes!
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: rogwar on September 25, 2009, 03:47:46 PM
There's another forum, populated by past and present AH players, where you can talk all the politics you want, without driving Skuzzy nuts.

Where is that? On Flamewarriors?


This is still an interesting OT forum that I enjoy reading. I often find interesting material on military history or aviation.

There's probably a lot of things skuzzy would rather do than spend time being hall monitor on here.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: usvi on September 25, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
See #1 bar rule...
Never argue about politics or religion.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: ariansworld on September 25, 2009, 04:26:51 PM
See #1 bar rule...
Never BRING UP OR ARGUE about politics or religion.


Fixed
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2009, 05:07:35 PM
See #1 bar rule...
Never argue about politics or religion.


isn't the quoted post somewhat like backseat moderating? which is also in the rules?

 :noid
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: ROX on September 25, 2009, 07:34:55 PM
It's their sandbox and they get to say who plays in it.


ROX
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Rino on September 25, 2009, 07:43:14 PM
     Some people learn lessons with difficulty I see.....parolee...oops PNG, my bad   :D
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 25, 2009, 07:48:02 PM
Ok, now i got your attention for sure.
This forum is suppose to be for "off topic or less serious" posting about issues not related to AH right?

 Well i don't think that any issues, including political should be banned then. As long as we keep it civilized and an "i see it this way, you see it that way type of discussion" i don't see the problem.

You give a forum for non AH related items and let a lot of stuff slide, but dear lord mention politics or something you (skuzzy-moderaters) don't like or
the rules for the AH portion which should not apply to this section of the forum as it has nothing to do with AH,  and it's "nothing to see here" or some such.

So in a nut shell, why even have this forum if it's not for the players to comment on outside issues that concern them if your going to censor it?

Let us paying customers/players decide when enough is enough is what i'm saying really.

I guess if i throw up a picture of the political babe's boobs for the day or some such it'd make this post ok?

Yea your right, i don't get selective censorship by a single individual at all. :(


LMAO

Good luck with that

you want true free speech in a forum. Try here instead.

http://www.flamewarriors.net/forum/index.php

Just be careful what you ask for. It may just be more then what you want or can handle.
If your a politically correct lightweight. Or cant handle being called on what you say. Dont bother.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: 100Coogn on September 25, 2009, 08:05:37 PM
Wow, where to go with this...  I can see wrongway's point, as to speaking about things, such as politics.  I guess what I wonder is, how far is too far? 
I also agree that, if you feel so strongley about discussing such issues, well there are other places for that too. 

Coogan
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2009, 08:07:58 PM
Wow, where to go with this...  I can see wrongway's point, as to speaking about things, such as politics.  I guess what I wonder is, how far is too far? 
I also agree that, if you feel so strongley about discussing such issues, well there are other places for that too. 

Coogan

read the rules.

they're pretty clear.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: USRanger on September 25, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
This just in:

Wrongwayric was one of Skuzzy's shades!  Fooled you all!
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: StokesAk on September 25, 2009, 08:36:53 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: DJ111 on September 25, 2009, 08:42:11 PM
Selective censorship.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Nemisis on September 25, 2009, 09:15:23 PM
(http://darren8770.googlepages.com/TacticalFacePalm.jpg)
Hmmm, this need more....


(http://www.blogcdn.com/nintendo.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/double_facepalm_lg.jpg)
Damn, still not enough.....


(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/20/128847344485080355.jpg)


Thats a little better....
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2009, 09:19:21 PM
(http://darren8770.googlepages.com/TacticalFacePalm.jpg)

 :rofl

i'm surprised waystin didn;t beatcha to the funny pic! :aok
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Nemisis on September 25, 2009, 09:25:12 PM
:rofl

i'm surprised waystin didn;t beatcha to the funny pic! :aok


I have claimed it as my own. Plus I added an icon on my desktop to a file with all pictures, with links so all I have to do is copy, paste. Its a lot faster than looking up the pictures. Still can't find my video that beats soup nazi though. This will have to do.....

(http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/131508_main.jpg)

Not the best for this topic. Supprised I haven't seen more pictures. I'm having to make up for the defeciency. Come on peopl, I'm getting tired over here, clicking takes work....
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: TwinEng on September 26, 2009, 08:11:44 PM
I'm a big fan of benevolent dictatorships...

I'd rather see mindless threads on cars, chicks and beer in here...


Hopefully next month someone will start a thread about Oktoberfest:


(http://girls.gunaxin.com/wp-content/gallery/oktoberfest_2009/oktoberfest_girls-044_0.jpg)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: JunkyII on September 27, 2009, 04:13:14 AM
:rofl

i'm surprised waystin didn;t beatcha to the funny pic! :aok
I got Waystin into a training program where he has to be MEAN, sry he is unavailable at the moment :D
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: SoulTakr on September 27, 2009, 09:55:03 AM

Hopefully next month someone will start a thread about Oktoberfest:


(http://girls.gunaxin.com/wp-content/gallery/oktoberfest_2009/oktoberfest_girls-044_0.jpg)

Over here now, will send pics when sober :)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Nemisis on September 29, 2009, 09:52:40 PM
Over here now, will send pics when sober :)


I'll get it, I'll get it....




(http://www.guy-sports.com/fun_pictures/low_cost_weapons.jpg)


(http://de.motiv.me/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/army_of_one_remember_that_kid_the_one_who_ate_glue.jpg)



(http://gallery.calebhammel.com/storage/4chan/Stupid_Terrorists.jpg)



(http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/Graphics/blog/2007Q2/fail.jpg)




And just for stodd.....
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/fail_thread.jpg)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: usvi on September 30, 2009, 03:43:13 AM
(http://chosenofmystra.net/gabby/ban_him.jpg)
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: JunkyII on September 30, 2009, 05:01:15 AM
(http://chosenofmystra.net/gabby/ban_him.jpg)
:rofl
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Xasthur on September 30, 2009, 09:25:24 AM
Ah geez.


What happens here is not censorship.

It's a business booting fools and removing items that will reflect poorly on the company.


You have no 'freedom of speech' here. You have no rights here.


You're in the HTC sandpit.

Play by their rules or sod off.


Stop complaining.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Maverick on September 30, 2009, 11:21:49 AM
He has stopped complaining here at least. Skuzzy showed him the door and planted it in his posterior, where his eyes were located anyhow.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: CAP1 on September 30, 2009, 11:34:01 AM
Ah geez.


What happens here is not censorship.

It's a business booting fools and removing items that will reflect poorly on the company.


You have no 'freedom of speech' here. You have no rights here.


You're in the HTC sandpit.

Play by their rules or sod off.


Stop complaining.

amazing how many just don't get this.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: avionix on September 30, 2009, 12:32:02 PM
My new favorite line from Skuzzy,  "This is not Burger King."   :rock :rofl :aok
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Nemisis on September 30, 2009, 04:00:34 PM
Ah geez.


What happens here is not censorship.

It's a business booting fools and removing items that will reflect poorly on the company.


You have no 'freedom of speech' here. You have no rights here.


You're in the HTC sandpit.

Play by their rules or sod off.


Stop complaining.


I agree, but I'm not saying his compliaint didn't have at least SOME basis. I think maby a relaxed moderation would fit here. i.e. No porn, relegious, or political stuff here, but relax the standard for "offensive material", and stuff along those lines. I mean he did make a good point....this IS the O club.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Skuzzy on September 30, 2009, 04:12:05 PM
We tried "relaxed" and the forum became a cess pool of hate and anger.  Never going back to that again.

The only point the OP made was to show how he could raise his head up into the line of fire and get it blown off.  Of course, anyone is free to act like a jerk, if they must.  It just means we will have one less poster on the board afterwards.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Nemisis on September 30, 2009, 04:25:04 PM
We tried "relaxed" and the forum became a cess pool of hate and anger.  Never going back to that again.

The only point the OP made was to show how he could raise his head up into the line of fire and get it blown off.  Of course, anyone is free to act like a jerk, if they must.  It just means we will have one less poster on the board afterwards.


hehehehe, didn't work hu? Oh well.
Title: Re: shut down the O club or stop the censorship
Post by: Shuffler on September 30, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
lol The Jerk..... now that was a funny movie.

 Account Manager; I will need two pieces of identification.

Navin R. Johnson:   Ah yes. I have my temporary driver's license - and - my astronaut application form... I didn't pass that though, I failed everything but the date of birth.