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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nemisis on September 30, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
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When can we expect to see AP rounds for the B25H? I think we'd all be willing to have them perked if you say never, and I mean perked high. Please HTC, maybe as a chrismas present?
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When can we expect to see AP rounds for the B25H? I think we'd all be willing to have them perked if you say never, and I mean perked high. Please HTC, maybe as a chrismas present?
the he rounds can kill tigers in one hit we dont need ap for it
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So you don't have to attack from the rear, at hight angles, or insanely low alt and close distances.
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So you don't have to attack from the rear, at hight angles, or insanely low alt and close distances.
makes no sense on what u just said. all u do is dive 90 degrees at good alt fire nail it in turret it go boom and u fly away or u can drop a good 1600kg bomb on one like me with stuka insta death
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90 degrees is strait vertical. You have to be good at strait vetical attacks (which it appears a lot of players aren't), or you have to start way up high (bombers appear not to like diving to 400mph).
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the he rounds can kill tigers in one hit we dont need ap for it
But B25's carried a few AP rounds.
You can also kill Tigers with lancs or a stuka, but any new option is great.
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90 degrees is strait vertical. You have to be good at strait vetical attacks (which it appears a lot of players aren't), or you have to start way up high (bombers appear not to like diving to 400mph).
thats for a 100% insta kill u can nail its top turret at other degrees but not a guarantee insta kill and who would be stupid to keep their engines full blast going 90 degrees in b25h and il2??????
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But B25's carried a few AP rounds.
You can also kill Tigers with lancs or a stuka, but any new option is great.
thats a few like 2 or 3 and its not effective when it goes into tank he round blows up in tank follow by blowing up the rounds ap u must have a nice hit on the munitions if wrong please correct
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thats for a 100% insta kill u can nail its top turret at other degrees but not a guarantee insta kill and who would be stupid to keep their engines full blast going 90 degrees in b25h and il2??????
a lot of people (nubes especially). You seem not to comprehend that not everyone has a KTD ratio of 9/1, or that not everyone has 6yrs of expirence.
But B25's carried a few AP rounds.
You can also kill Tigers with lancs or a stuka, but any new option is great.
Exactly. You CAN kill a tank with spit1 provided you empty your magazines at it, and no one else lands more hits on it before its actually killed.
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a lot of people (nubes especially). You seem not to comprehend that not everyone has a KTD ratio of 9/1, or that not everyone has 6yrs of expirence.
Exactly. You CAN kill a tank with spit1 provided you empty your magazines at it, and no one else lands more hits on it before its actually killed.
m8 is a armored car not tank. its weak
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*sigh*
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It is my understanding that as long as you land more bullets on a target than everyone else at the time its destroyed, then you get the kill. As long as this is true, you can kill a tank with a spit 1.
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It is my understanding that as long as you land more bullets on a target than everyone else at the time its destroyed, then you get the kill. As long as this is true, you can kill a tank with a spit 1.
well u cant i mean u get the points for getting at the tracks u just cant penetrate any tanks armor with .303s the guy that pierces the tanks armor kills em not you it should be who ever kills em gets the perks.
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Use grammar. And if I understand you then here, yes YOU don't destroy it, but you landed the most hits on it so it regesters as YOUR kill, and that counts as a kill as far as perks and points go. If you land 3 HE shells on a tiger before someone nails it from behind with a firefly then you get the kill. See what I'm saying? I want to have it so you can kill tigers and other heavier tanks without requiring Insanely high angles of attack, low levels to get tracks, and turret (I think you can get it), or extremely close ranges.
And since you strike me as a GV'er threatend by AP shells, why don't you be fair and acknowledge the usefulness of them?
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Use grammar. And if I understand you then here, yes YOU don't destroy it, but you landed the most hits on it so it regesters as YOUR kill, and that counts as a kill as far as perks and points go. If you land 3 HE shells on a tiger before someone nails it from behind with a firefly then you get the kill. See what I'm saying? I want to have it so you can kill tigers and other heavier tanks without requiring Insanely high angles of attack, low levels to get tracks, and turret (I think you can get it), or extremely close ranges.
And since you strike me as a GV'er threatend by AP shells, why don't you be fair and acknowledge the usefulness of them?
thats called cant finish a fight so u have some one else who doesnt know u put like 1000 rounds in a tiger and kills it and u get kill thats bull the person who kills it should get kill
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Yes, I agree. But I guess this is the best way to do it that the game and most machines can handle having.
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The person who lands the most rounds on the target gets the kill when it dies. Otherwise you get an assist... even if your shot was the one that killed it. Just the way it is.
Anyway... back to the ORIGINAL question:
Yes... B25H's carried 5 AP rounds. And to point something out... you have to get the round INTO the tank to kill it... hence the need for AP. HE just explodes on the surface... although with the right angle and placement, you can get a kill on a tank with HE. The HE rounds on the 25H are BEST used for softer targets (Light armor, Flak, buildings, barracks, ords, ships, etc)
Would I like to see them on the 25H? You betcha. Will we get them? Who knows.
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Exactly AKP. Which is why this was directed more at the moderators.
Skuzzy, can you give me an estimate of when (if we even will, and if not, then tell us why we won't) we will get the AP rounds for the B25H?
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this is directed at you stodd....
(http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/Graphics/blog/2007Q2/fail.jpg)
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the he rounds can kill tigers in one hit we dont need ap for it
B-25H carried 5 AP rounds for the 75mm...there is no reason not to add this ammo option for the H Mitchell.
ack-ack
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this is directed at you stodd....
(http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/Graphics/blog/2007Q2/fail.jpg)
Sorry, I saw a post made by you in the wishlist and typed that in by reflex I guess.
Here's one for you.
(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/cheesecat2.jpg)
Also, (http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/owned.jpg)
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Is there any documentation as to the AP rounds? All I've seen is various people posting that it is so.
wrongway
(skeptical)
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Sorry, I saw a post made by you in the wishlist and typed that in by reflex I guess.
Here's one for you.
(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/cheesecat2.jpg)
Also, (http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/owned.jpg)
So I'm assuming that those are from your chrismas party. Why is there what looks like cheese on the cat?
Is there any documentation as to the AP rounds? All I've seen is various people posting that it is so.
wrongway
(skeptical)
Well I probably couldn't find anything, but no doubt others could. Ask them. But I can't see any reason they WOULDN'T have carried a few AP rounds.
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I seem to remember lyric1 posting quite a bit of info on the 25H awhile back. He has volumes of information on it. If anyone can find the documentation... he can.
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He probably could. We'll wait for him to get on tomarow. And APK, I need you to come up with a jap amphibious vehicle that was EW if you could.
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moin
if we get the ap rounds for the 25. i want the 88 flack to defend ouer gvs. il2 and a b25 with APs, would be horrible for gvs.
cu chris3
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He probably could. We'll wait for him to get on tomarow. And APK, I need you to come up with a jap amphibious vehicle that was EW if you could.
The Japanese had a handful of amphibious tanks... but for landing craft they used boats for the most part.
Even the amphib tanks they had were rarely used in that role, as they were few in number, and didnt enter service until after their early expansion across the pacific.
EDIT: The DID however have these: The Su-Ki Amphibious Truck made by Toyota. I just found this today.
http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/su-ki.htm
Only 198 were made, and I am not sure how much service they saw.
Odd isnt it... that a nation which tried to control an area that was primarily islands, didnt have the right tools to do the job. Dont get me wrong, they did just fine without them... but if they had the types of landing and amphibious craft the allies had it would have made their job much easier.
But, if you want to see what they WERE using... here are a few:
List of the most common vehicles used... keep in mind that of the amphib tanks listed here, only the Type 2 saw regular service.
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-amphibvehicles.html
And here are the usual Wikipedia suspects:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_craft#Imperial_Japanese_Navy_landing_craft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_tanks_and_armoured_vehicles_of_the_WWII_period#Amphibious_tanks
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Geez... found another one... but only 49 were made, and it's in question that they saw much service at all.
Type 4 Amphibious Vehicle "Ka-Tsu"
http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/ka-tsu.htm
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So I'm assuming that those are from your chrismas party. Why is there what looks like cheese on the cat?
Was that a joke or something? :huh I dont get it.
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...Skuzzy, can you give me an estimate of when (if we even will, and if not, then tell us why we won't) we will get the AP rounds for the B25H?
HTC doesn't set dates on the arrival of anything.
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I can kill a most tanks in a B25.
But good idea. +1
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When can we expect to see AP rounds for the B25H? I think we'd all be willing to have them perked if you say never, and I mean perked high. Please HTC, maybe as a chrismas present?
Nemisis: When did you stop beating your children.
HiTech
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Nemisis: When did you stop beating your children.
HiTech
:rofl
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Odd isnt it... that a nation which tried to control an area that was primarily islands, didnt have the right tools to do the job. Dont get me wrong, they did just fine without them... but if they had the types of landing and amphibious craft the allies had it would have made their job much easier.
Their doctrine I think had a large part to play in that. IJA's tank doctrine was to use tanks in support of infantry and rarely operated in independent actions. After their defeat by the Soviets at Nomonhan, the Japanese started to rethink their design and tank doctrine but still within the role as infantry support. Then as the war started, Japan shifted production to warships and aircraft and tank design and production was put in the back seat. Then there was the issue of suitable 'tank fighting terrain', which was rather limited or non-existant in the Pacific and Southeast Asia. I think the only large scale use of tanks by the Japanese occured with the Invasion of Malasya and in China, this also caused new tank designs and production not to be given a high priority.
ack-ack
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moin
if we get the ap rounds for the 25. i want the 88 flack to defend ouer gvs. il2 and a b25 with APs, would be horrible for gvs.
cu chris3
Were asking for some new GV's in "Early War tank set" Included in that is an Italian 90mm AP/AA truck mounted gun you should check it out.
Was that a joke or something? :huh I dont get it.
Inside joke. Forget it.
Nemisis: When did you stop beating your children.
HiTech
Oh, about last week. Why?
And Hitech, something I've always wondered is why you put a ":" after peoples names as if your quoting them, or its their line in a script?
And thanks AKP, this will help fill the jap set.